Is Anyone in Charge of the Response to COVID-19?

[Rick C]

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 4:01:12 PM UTC-4, jjhu...@gmail.com wrote:

There are really intricate math models that predict the rate of infection growth with a lot of variables to play with that would provide some insight as to proliferation and geographic densities. Its a model, probably no better that 50% accurate for any one set of parameters.....what is interesting to me is that I haven't seen any news about these models or predictions. Maybe because the results are too scary, or, there are way to may variables to adjust to reflect reality...
Then again, doing the modeling is probably OBE'ed at this point

We could have a segment on the local news with the weatherman displaying charts of the trends and forecasts in the progress of the disease. "Saturday will be sunny and warm with temperatures in the high 70's and a new infection rate of 30%. We expect the warm spell to last through Sunday when social distancing should bring the new infection rate down to 25%."

I expect virtually no one (meaning less than 1%) in the US actually understands that in just two weeks we will see people turned away from hospitals. Heck, I've read they are getting a jump start on it by doing testing from tents in some locations. The hospitals know what it's going to be like, but there's nothing they can do.

It literally drives me crazy that people like Larkin post their denialist crap. At least this time he will be alive to see just how wrong he is. He clearly is talking out both sides of his mouth, denying exponential growth here, but bunkering down with ample supplies. What a nasty piece of work.

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[Rick C]

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 3:54:07 PM UTC-4, jjhu...@gmail.com wrote:

My understanding is that FEMA in conjunction with CDC and DHS *does (did?)* have a plan for action for this type of problem. It was shaped by the Ebola and SARS incidents as well as the lessons learned from hurricane disasters over the last 15 years. Have you seen/heard much from them? The first time I heard anything from FEMA was a day or so ago - an official was describing how they are securing beds, setting up make shift hospitals, etc. I would have expected testing procedures, marshaling of equipment and supplies, logistics, etc.)
Where was their presence before that?

In all honesty, they haven't been needed until now. I suppose they could have sounded the alarm but that's not their job. Their job is action after someone else sounds the alarm.


> King trump with his superior intellect purposely minimized their involvement so he could claim that 1) he and his group are 'in control' (I feel *so much better* now that Jared is in charge), and 2) he can support his claim that he inherited a broken system (specifically the broken system that came from Obama, and btw, as a fait accompli, *everything* from Obama, and before, was broken.)

I think that is going to be a tough sale 3 years into his presidency. If he can't clean up an inherited mess within three years he is not the right guy in the office.


> My reading of various news sources today indicates FEMA is getting more airplay and involvement.

That's good for multiple reasons. They are going to be needed in NY and other places. But just hearing their name will clue people in that this is not just a seasonal flu.

So many idiots, so little time.

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[whit3rd]

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 11:22:54 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 21:53:40 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 4:34:51 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Don't all seasonal flus grow exponentially? What's special about this
one?

The roughly 100% susceptibility of individuals (no immunity from previous similar
strains), and the roughly 3:1 spread from each unaware-but-ill individual.


Aboard the Diamond Princess, under 20% of the passengers got it. Half
of those were asymptomatic. Out of 3700 passengers, seven died, all
over 70.

But, the observation window was just a couple of weeks; were all the passengers
tested for both active disease and for had-it-and-now-immune? Was the
situation onboard 'normal' in terms of your lifestyle (or mine, or anyone
in a non-cruise-ship?

Most important, THE DISEASE HASN'T RUN ITS FULL COURSE during that incident.

There will be ongoing challenges to the over 80% of passengers who didn't 'get it',
The medical response might be less able to respond when YOU get ill.

7 billion population, expect 60% hit in the first wave, 1% fatalities with good
monitoring and medical intervention, 2% without: that means a year's
death toll, potentially, 40 to 80 million. It's comparable to World War II.

 

On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 10:30:40 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
<trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 10:17:33 PM UTC-4, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't all seasonal flus grow exponentially? What's special about this
one?
It was a simple question. Can anybody answer it? Or did the dog eat
your homework?

We are still early in the Covid-19 season (as compared to the flu); so, hard to see the effect for some people.

Covid-19 is 2x to 3x more infectious (especially those without symptoms) as the flu, 20x to 50x more deadly, live outside hosts for days and air-borne (WHO is now confirming this).

A good example of that is the Jewish lawyer in Westchester. He got infected,
presumably while in FL. He in turn infected his wife, his two kids,
a friend, where it spread to the friend's wife and all three of their kids,
and he even infected the neighbor who drove him to the hospital.

We have another case here where a man in North Jersey was infected, like from
the above route as it spread. He attended a family event in central NJ,
infecting ten people. Of those ten, a grandmother and three of her
children are now dead, two or three more are in ICU.

How old were the children? Numerous sites claim that no young child
has died of this. The youngest may have been 14.

You don't typically see that kind of thing with a typical flu season.
It's believed that some of these people are super spreaders, able for
some unknown reason to more easily spread it. Also right now the death
rate of closed cases, ie where people around the world have either recovered
or died is 11%.. You don't see that with flu either.

We need an antibody test to see who has had it.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 12:23:04 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
<trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:32:28 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 10:41:48 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:24:18 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 7:59:33 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 19:17:28 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

Don't all seasonal flus grow exponentially? What's special about this
one?
It was a simple question. Can anybody answer it? Or did the dog eat
your homework?

We are still early in the Covid-19 season (as compared to the flu); so, hard to see the effect for some people.

Covid-19 is 2x to 3x more infectious (especially those without symptoms) as the flu, 20x to 50x more deadly, live outside hosts for days and air-borne (WHO is now confirming this).

The Diamond Princess cruise petri dish, visible from our kitchen
window, was about as bad a disease environment as you can get. Less
than 20 per cent of people on board caught the virus. About half of
those had no symptoms. 7 people died out of 3700 passengers, all of
them over 70.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza#Epidemiology

Look at the chart halfway down. Why didn't those killers deserve 24/7
press and lockdowns?

Those have been going on for many years. This is the first year for Covid-19. We can come back and compare them in a few years.

Yes. A flu virus got a fancy name and scary pictures and 24/7 press
coverage. Any seasonal flu could have had that honor.

So, Trump your hero is lying again when even he now admits this isn't
the flu? And no, any seasonal flu could not have the same results.

Right. Some have been much worse.




Yes, like the Spanish Flu, 1918. Most of us learned from that. You
want to repeat it.

I want to have a mild flu go away in the spring, and not come back.
And I want an economy that's not wrecked for years.

And I want to understand the dynamics of this thing, because I like
dynamics. I don't make public policy, and apparently speculation about
possibilities is frowned on here. In a DESIGN group!

Some people here seem to relish a really deadly outcome, so mock the
idea of anything else. So do the newspapers. A few experts have
actually offered a best-case outcome, alongside the worst-case one of
course.

My PCB is looking great.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:80ed6b40-ffe9-41f4-
bcd3-c940911614d7@googlegroups.com:

They are all Republicans, as are you. You are enabling Trump.
look in the mirror.

No. Fuck off and die, stupid fucktard.

 

[bitrex]

On 3/22/2020 6:57 AM, Andy Bennet wrote:

On 21/03/2020 05:28, Rick C wrote:
I don't get it.  I thought NYC was in lock down, but it seems the
mayor of the city and the Governor of the state are fighting over
this.  It was only today that the state of NY is requiring all
non-essential personnel to stay home.  Really?  They are just getting
to this point?  I read that Wednesday they required 50% of
non-essential workers to stay home, then Thursday 75%.  Now, on Friday
100% of non-essential personnel must stay home because the numbers are
still rising.  Do these guys think their actions are like adjusting
the faucet?  Do they really not understand it takes at least a week to
see a result in this situation?

The one thing we can do to pull our asses out of the fire is to lock
down the majorly hit areas so the hospitals are not overwhelmed and
hopefully, save a lot of lives until we can either isolate all the
cases and let it self-extinguish or a treatment/vaccine is developed.
NYC is one of those majorly hit areas.

Well, with 5,000 currently diagnosed in NYC alone, that means they
already have some 15,000 infected that aren't diagnosed yet.  With 15%
needing hospital beds that is over 2,000 more hospital beds they will
need if they prevent all further infections right now!

Even the medical personnel don't seem to understand the nature of
exponential growth.  “The most striking part is the speed with which
it has ramped up", said a Queens ER doctor.  Clearly he never spent
any time learning about exponential growth.

We have total idiots running things and that starts at the top and
follows the flow all the way down!

Looks like it's going to be a tough ride.


Do what 'mericans don't
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hks6Nq7g6P4

Only thing the US government is planning to do is the one thing they
know how to do at the moment, give a trillion dollars to their
billionaire buddies:

<https://qz.com/1823225/senate-republicans-corporate-rescue-more-like-slush-fund-dems-say/>

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 6:35:29 AM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:25:26 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:30:45 PM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:
Also right now the death
rate of closed cases, ie where people around the world have either recovered
or died is 11%.. You don't see that with flu either.

To be even handed, that is not a realistic number. The number of recovered typically lags by a significant margin because they don't chalk up a win because the person is getting better. You aren't counted as recovered until you have tested negative twice in subsequent days. That ratio is only useful towards the end of the infection as they have in China and the rate is about 3.4%.

I agree, but I bet if you look at the beginning of the flu, when it's starting
to accelerate around the world, with 100K closed cases you would not see 11%
either. The 3.4% number is 34x the flu. It's also possible that it's mutated
into a deadlier strain since leaving China too.

There's absolutely no evidence of that. The genome is known, and looked at regularly. It's an RNA virus and not all that stable, but a more lethal version would kill people before they had a chance to infect as many new cases as the regular version.

> For example somehow young people here, in France, Italy are being hit harder than in China and no one knows why.

In what sense "hit harder"?

First I've heard of it. Whoey Louie gets his misinformation from all over, and cant' manange to document where he got it, perhaps because it would make it even more obvious that he is a gullible twit.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:15:29 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 12:23:04 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 2:32:28 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 10:41:48 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:24:18 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 7:59:33 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 19:17:28 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

<snip>

Yes, like the Spanish Flu, 1918. Most of us learned from that. You
want to repeat it.

I want to have a mild flu go away in the spring, and not come back.
And I want an economy that's not wrecked for years.

What you want is neither interesting or relevant.

And I want to understand the dynamics of this thing, because I like
dynamics. I don't make public policy, and apparently speculation about
possibilities is frowned on here. In a DESIGN group!

Ill-informed speculation is a waste of time, but that's all you post.

Some people here seem to relish a really deadly outcome, so mock the
idea of anything else.

Your ill-informed pollyanna speculations get the mocking they deserve.

It's not the optimisn that is being mocked, but the imperfect grasp of reality.

So do the newspapers. A few experts have
actually offered a best-case outcome, alongside the worst-case one of
course.

But you can't post a link to one.

> My PCB is looking great.

You would think that.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Rick C]

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 9:13:57 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

Only thing the US government is planning to do is the one thing they
know how to do at the moment, give a trillion dollars to their
billionaire buddies:

https://qz.com/1823225/senate-republicans-corporate-rescue-more-like-slush-fund-dems-say/

I'm not excited about bailing out large businesses, but the bottom line is we need business to stay in business both to provide goods and to provide jobs when this is over. So helping them stay in business is good, but I don't think they need money up front. We need to deal with them on a case by case basis after they enter bankruptcy. Going into bankruptcy does require layoffs or office closures. The other term for it is "restructuring" and is mostly about debt, not operations.

The issue seems to be the lack of controls to assure the money is used properly rather than to line the pockets of the owners. I believe the deal with GM a dozen years ago allowed the government the option to take stock in the company. I don't recall the details but I did hear that we made money on the deal. Maybe we can do that with more companies and won't have to pay taxes for a few years?

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[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 4:24:18 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 7:59:33 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 19:17:28 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

Don't all seasonal flus grow exponentially? What's special about this
one?
It was a simple question. Can anybody answer it? Or did the dog eat
your homework?

We are still early in the Covid-19 season (as compared to the flu); so, hard to see the effect for some people.

Covid-19 is 2x to 3x more infectious (especially those without symptoms) as the flu, 20x to 50x more deadly, live outside hosts for days and air-borne (WHO is now confirming this).

The Diamond Princess cruise petri dish, visible from our kitchen
window, was about as bad a disease environment as you can get. Less
than 20 per cent of people on board caught the virus. About half of
those had no symptoms. 7 people died out of 3700 passengers, all of
them over 70.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza#Epidemiology

Look at the chart halfway down. Why didn't those killers deserve 24/7
press and lockdowns?

Those have been going on for many years. This is the first year for Covid-19. We can come back and compare them in a few years.

Yes. A flu virus got a fancy name and scary pictures and 24/7 press
coverage. Any seasonal flu could have had that honor.

It would have had to kill a lot more people. The Spanish flu was the last seasonal flu to get attention that way, and it seems to have been less lethal.

There seems to be an antibody test now. To determine the death rate of
this virus, we need to know the denominator. Something like 80% of the
infections are mild or asymptomatic, so we don't know how many people
get it, or what the infection vs time curve actually is.

Actually we do, but John Larkn hasn't bothered to find out.

This could be another 1918, or it could be a common, probably mild,
seasonal corona flu.

It seems likely to be rather worse than the Spanish flu - there's no herd immunity at all, and it's more lethal.

Panic buying is interesting dynamics. People stripped the stores of
toilet paper and pasta and flour. Now that they have heaps of that at
home, they are shifting their panic buying to other stuff.

All panics have interesting dynamics. If people develop, and maintain,
habits that reduce virus spread, that will be a long-term benefit.

Fat chance of that. Humans are social animals. It's provoing remarkably difficult to get them to stop associating, even when their lives depend on it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 5:32:28 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 10:41:48 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:24:18 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 7:59:33 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 19:17:28 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com

<snip>

So, Trump your hero is lying again when even he now admits this isn't
the flu? And no, any seasonal flu could not have the same results.

Right. Some have been much worse.

Name one. Some have killed moire people over a full flu season than Covid-19 has so far, but even John Larkin should have enough sense to realise that this isn't a meaningful comparison.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:03:31 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 10:30:40 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 10:17:33 PM UTC-4, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
Don't all seasonal flus grow exponentially? What's special about this
one?
It was a simple question. Can anybody answer it? Or did the dog eat
your homework?

We are still early in the Covid-19 season (as compared to the flu); so, hard to see the effect for some people.

Covid-19 is 2x to 3x more infectious (especially those without symptoms) as the flu, 20x to 50x more deadly, live outside hosts for days and air-borne (WHO is now confirming this).

A good example of that is the Jewish lawyer in Westchester. He got infected,
presumably while in FL. He in turn infected his wife, his two kids,
a friend, where it spread to the friend's wife and all three of their kids,
and he even infected the neighbor who drove him to the hospital.

We have another case here where a man in North Jersey was infected, like from
the above route as it spread. He attended a family event in central NJ,
infecting ten people. Of those ten, a grandmother and three of her
children are now dead, two or three more are in ICU.

How old were the children? Numerous sites claim that no young child
has died of this. The youngest may have been 14.

The pictures suggested that the children were in their fifties.

The youngest person to have died of Covid-19 was a nine-year-old.

You don't typically see that kind of thing with a typical flu season.
It's believed that some of these people are super spreaders, able for
some unknown reason to more easily spread it. Also right now the death
rate of closed cases, ie where people around the world have either recovered
or died is 11%.. You don't see that with flu either.

We need an antibody test to see who has had it.

We've got one, probably several by now. Not enough testing kits to check everybody in the US - though South Korea has now apparently tested their entire population, and plans to keep on testing them regularly for some time to come.

John Larkin clearly hasn't been paying attention.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[bitrex]

On 3/22/2020 9:53 PM, Rick C wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 9:13:57 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

Only thing the US government is planning to do is the one thing they
know how to do at the moment, give a trillion dollars to their
billionaire buddies:

https://qz.com/1823225/senate-republicans-corporate-rescue-more-like-slush-fund-dems-say/

I'm not excited about bailing out large businesses, but the bottom line is we need business to stay in business both to provide goods and to provide jobs when this is over. So helping them stay in business is good, but I don't think they need money up front. We need to deal with them on a case by case basis after they enter bankruptcy. Going into bankruptcy does require layoffs or office closures. The other term for it is "restructuring" and is mostly about debt, not operations.

The issue seems to be the lack of controls to assure the money is used properly rather than to line the pockets of the owners. I believe the deal with GM a dozen years ago allowed the government the option to take stock in the company. I don't recall the details but I did hear that we made money on the deal. Maybe we can do that with more companies and won't have to pay taxes for a few years?

Give them the money now with no strings attached or the Democrats are
responsible for 1 million deaths. science facts.

 

[Rick C]

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 9:56:13 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 5:32:28 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 10:41:48 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 1:24:18 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 20:15:45 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 7:59:33 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 19:17:28 -0700 (PDT), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com

snip

So, Trump your hero is lying again when even he now admits this isn't
the flu? And no, any seasonal flu could not have the same results.

Right. Some have been much worse.

Name one. Some have killed moire people over a full flu season than Covid-19 has so far, but even John Larkin should have enough sense to realise that this isn't a meaningful comparison.

That's not the right question. Ask him if this is no worse than the flu, why is he hunkering down in his home? Why wasn't he out and about in restaurants and bars up until the Governor closed them?

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[bitrex]

On 3/22/2020 11:42 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 3/22/2020 9:53 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 9:13:57 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

Only thing the US government is planning to do is the one thing they
know how to do at the moment, give a trillion dollars to their
billionaire buddies:

https://qz.com/1823225/senate-republicans-corporate-rescue-more-like-slush-fund-dems-say/


I'm not excited about bailing out large businesses, but the bottom
line is we need business to stay in business both to provide goods and
to provide jobs when this is over.  So helping them stay in business
is good, but I don't think they need money up front.   We need to deal
with them on a case by case basis after they enter bankruptcy.  Going
into bankruptcy does require layoffs or office closures.  The other
term for it is "restructuring" and is mostly about debt, not operations.

The issue seems to be the lack of controls to assure the money is used
properly rather than to line the pockets of the owners.  I believe the
deal with GM a dozen years ago allowed the government the option to
take stock in the company.  I don't recall the details but I did hear
that we made money on the deal.  Maybe we can do that with more
companies and won't have to pay taxes for a few years?


Give them the money now with no strings attached or the Democrats are
responsible for 1 million deaths. science facts.

Mitch McConnell has got the text of the
Coronavirus-bailout-and-abortion-is-outlawed-forever-and-Trump-is-president-for-life-and-billionaires-get-all-the-money
bill all set and if the Democrats don't sign off, welp.

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

Whoey Louie wrote:

Even Trump now admits it's very different. So, he's lying again?

No but lots of people lie about Trump. He blocked travel from China
before most others thought it was a problem.

Here in New York, our far-left Chancellor of Education, Carranza,
ordered school staff not to report symptomatic students and staff to the
Health Department only 10 days ago.

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 17:27:53 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Saturday, March 21, 2020 at 7:34:51 PM UTC-4,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Don't all seasonal flus grow exponentially? What's special about
this one?

Even Trump now admits it's very different. So, he's lying again?

It was a simple question. Can anybody answer it? Or did the dog eat
your homework?

It's more like I love Lucy. "If you don't know, I'm not going to tell
you."

 

[Rick C]

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 3:01:12 AM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

Whoey Louie wrote:

Even Trump now admits it's very different. So, he's lying again?

No but lots of people lie about Trump. He blocked travel from China
before most others thought it was a problem.

Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while. Trump's xenophobia actually prompted him to do something good for once.

Here in New York, our far-left Chancellor of Education, Carranza,
ordered school staff not to report symptomatic students and staff to the
Health Department only 10 days ago.

He should be brought up on charges. I would think that was criminal. Oh wait... he said the labs doing the testing would be reporting to the health department. So no reporting was blocked.

Or did I read that wrong?

'Health department spokesman Patrick Gallahue said Friday the agency “was in agreement with DOE on the directive.”'

It helps if you get all the facts.

--

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"Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote
in news:r59mrk$qv2$1@dont-email.me:

Whoey Louie wrote:

Even Trump now admits it's very different. So, he's lying again?

No but lots of people lie about Trump. He blocked travel from
China before most others thought it was a problem.

The fact that Trump killed the very office meant to respond to this
type of crisis is THE VERY REASON WHY THE ACCESSIBILITY OF TESTS AND
PPE is slow and stagnated and even non-existent. WAKE UP.

And he has blown it off for weeks (the fact that he DID NOT RESPOND
OTHER THAN THE FLIGHT CANCELS HE KEEPS TOUTING AS HEROIC AND HISTORIC
WHOOPIE FUCKIN DOO), and blowing off the small stuff is his fucking
pathetic standard MO. He thinks we will all forget the details of
it. You fucking surely did.

WAKE THE FUCK UP.

You dig, horse blinder boy?

Here in New York, our far-left Chancellor of Education, Carranza,
ordered school staff not to report symptomatic students and staff
to the Health Department only 10 days ago.

You still do not get it. The WHOLE NATION is WAY PAST the arrival
of it.