Why do circuit breakers go up for on and down for off?...

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 17:19:51 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 16:46:32 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 15:46:50 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 09:24:14 -0000, \"NY\" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in message
newsp.10pblzyxmvhs6z@ryzen.home...
How annoying. The British fuses you could stick any in any socket, and
you could put any fusewire in each too. My house, I put in what I want.
Complete:
https://maintenance-service.co.uk/_webedit/cached-images/165-0-0-0-10000-10000-708.jpg
Without
fuses:https://flameport.com/electric_museum/old_equipment/white_wylex_reverse_switch_open.jpg
Without covers:https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qp4AAOSw3N9fNcsE/s-l300.jpg
(I have one like this, got it 2nd hand). It takes fuses or breakers, no
covers, just have to be careful inserting them. And no I never turn off
the whole bloody thing just to change one fuse.
Can\'t find a picture of the actual fuses seperate.

I was always surprised that all the fuse-wire holders in a UK fuse box were
interchangeable - there was nothing to stop you inserting a 15 A
lighting-circuit fuse in the slot for a 30 A ring-main. Everything would be
fine until someone turned on both a kettle and and electric fire on the same
ring main (thereby drawing more than 13A) and the 15 A fuse would blow.

It would have been better if the fuse holders had been designed to have
different size pins to avoid this. Of course there would still be nothing to
stop someone wiring 30 A wire into a 15 A holder, but that is (probably)
less likely than someone pulling out several fuses and then putting them
back in the wrong locations. At least the fuse holders and sockets in the
fuse box were colour-coded with domino spots which had to match.

The US screw type fuses, basically a light bulb socket, were
interchangable. Older houses around here still have them. One only
needs to keep a stock of 30 amp spares around.

So you could use a lightbulb as a fuse?

I\'m not sure if the screw thread is the same as a light bulb, but they
sure looked the same. I can\'t try it here, as our house was built in
1992 and is all modern. But all the older US screw-in fuses were the
same mechanically, so people tended to install a bigger fuse when one
blew.

An incendescent light bulb would be a good current limiter for low
current circuits; nicely nonlinear and self-resetting. Like a PTC
thermistor, which we use on circuit boards. The disc kind, not
surface-mount.

I have used lightbulbs as a limiter for a microwave transformer when doing nasty high voltage stuff.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 11:03:16 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 05/03/2023 04:19, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 09:55:24 -0000, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 25 Feb 2023 06:50:03 -0000, \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 15:53:53 -0000, R D S <rsandr@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 11/02/2023 08:16, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Why do circuit breakers go up for on and down for off? Would they work
installed upside down?
I haven\'t read the replies....
So you can\'t turn them on by accident?

I can think of no time I\'ve accidentally fallen on a switch.

Do you want someone to explain what he meant? I thought it was obvious.

Other than falling, how would down for on make it more likely to turn on
by accident?

I think we\'ve already decided that originally leaf switches were used,
which clearly /could/ fall.

No need to keep the tradition.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 17:06:37 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 16:46:05 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 18:31:14 -0000, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:

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On 2023-02-18, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 18/02/2023 12:37, Max Demian wrote:
Steam locos were not rated in horsepower, but \'tractive effort\' . How
many tons of pull they could generate before the wheels slipped.

Sort of. The important factor is tractive effort; but horsepower was a
known factor as well.

Indeed. From Audel\'s volume 1:

\"Horse Power - This unit was introduced by James Watt to measure the
power of his steam engines; defined as 33,000 ft. lbs. per minute.\"
Audels Engineers and Mechanics Guide Vol 1. pg 78.

A farmer told me he had horses that could exceed that.

At least 10x short-term. A healthy human can peak over 1 HP.

8kW for a well fit cyclist\'s thighs, dunno what that is in old money.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 13:13:55 -0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 04/03/2023 17:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 16:48:12 -0000, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 20:55:29 -0000, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 17:38:10 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> writes:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 09:24:14 -0000, \"NY\" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in message
newsp.10pblzyxmvhs6z@ryzen.home...
How annoying. The British fuses you could stick any in any socket, and
you could put any fusewire in each too. My house, I put in what I want.
Complete:
https://maintenance-service.co.uk/_webedit/cached-images/165-0-0-0-10000-10000-708.jpg
Without
fuses:https://flameport.com/electric_museum/old_equipment/white_wylex_reverse_switch_open.jpg
Without covers:https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qp4AAOSw3N9fNcsE/s-l300.jpg
(I have one like this, got it 2nd hand). It takes fuses or breakers, no
covers, just have to be careful inserting them. And no I never turn off
the whole bloody thing just to change one fuse.
Can\'t find a picture of the actual fuses seperate.

I was always surprised that all the fuse-wire holders in a UK fuse box were
interchangeable - there was nothing to stop you inserting a 15 A
lighting-circuit fuse in the slot for a 30 A ring-main. Everything would be
fine until someone turned on both a kettle and and electric fire on the same
ring main (thereby drawing more than 13A) and the 15 A fuse would blow.

It would have been better if the fuse holders had been designed to have
different size pins to avoid this. Of course there would still be nothing to
stop someone wiring 30 A wire into a 15 A holder, but that is (probably)
less likely than someone pulling out several fuses and then putting them
back in the wrong locations. At least the fuse holders and sockets in the
fuse box were colour-coded with domino spots which had to match.

The US screw type fuses, basically a light bulb socket, were
interchangable. Older houses around here still have them. One only
needs to keep a stock of 30 amp spares around.


There are two types of screw fuses, \"T\" and \"S\".

\"A type T fuse looks a lot like a lightbulb and screws into the
sockets of old fuse boxes. Conversely, the type S fuse requires
an adapter base to work with Edison type sockets. Type S fuses
are designed to be tamperproof. They help homeowners not
accidentally use the wrong fuse for their circuits.

A type S fuse has an adapter base with a unique size and thread
so you don\\u2019t mismatch the fuses. In other words, the size and
thread of the base prevent you from putting a 15-amp fuse in a 20-amp
circuit. However, a type T fuse will work with any Edison socket
irrespective of the amperage of the circuit. If your home has an
old fuse box that uses Edison sockets, talk to the technicians at
[company_name] about making the switch to socket adapters that use
S fuses. This can make your panel a lot safer.

I\'m an electrical engineer, so I can make my own judgements. I talk to
electricians and few if any actually understand basic electrical
principles. I have read the local electric codes but never met an
electrician who has.

Most houses around here have breakers now.

Completely unnecessary. All you need is the power to stop if something shorts so you don\'t set fire to your house.

Are circuit breakers completely unnecessary? What\'s to limit current
and wires getting hot inside walls?


Commander Wanker is just talking bollocks as usual.

\"All you need is the power to stop if something shorts so you don\'t set
fire to your house.\"

AKA a circuit breaker.

You must have heard of a fuse. It stops the power over a certain current. Very simple device, no nuisance trips. Built in surge allowance. My house uses them.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 19:00:15 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 18:56:59 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 04:15:23 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 22:46:13 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ve23i5K334


It must be a fake!

I had a friend with a PhD in electronics who might have had a problem
with it. A full circuit analysis taking into account the internal
resistance of the battery and so forth would be easy.

He wasn\'t quiet that bad although he lived in his head and not the
physical world. One day he demonstrated why you shouldn\'t put a random
piece of wire across the terminals of a car battery to see if it is
dead. Spoiler: it wasn\'t.

A thin wire would be fine, as long as you don\'t need the wire again.

And you weren\'t holding the wire...

Hot stuff only burns if you don\'t say \"fuck!\" and let go. I demonstrated this to a moronic teacher in school, who had the nerve to tell me I didn\'t understand physics. I was using a metal spoon to stir food in a hot pan, as most people do. I put my finger on the side of the hot pan, removed it and said \"ouch, see, I can do biology too\".

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 17:00:45 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 04/03/2023 13:57, tony sayer wrote:

You will deserve what happens next.

Very unlikely for all those things to happen at once. I didn\'t get vaccinated
either,

I never wear a seatbelt,

I remember as a lad going to nick a few light bulbs from cars at Ron
Charlton\'s scrapyard. Whilst going about that we noticed the number of
cars that had very bent steering wheels, this i was told was because
the drivers having hit most anything their body flew forward and their
chest impacted the wheel and bent it, and no way could we bend it back.

Ron\'s old boy there said that most all the drivers in that sort of
impact didn\'t survive

Then came a seatbelt\'s and that became a thing of the past once people
started using them and we got round the stupidity of \"its better to be
thrown clear of the car you know\" idiocy.

I know someone who\'s an ex A&E consultant he\'ll give you chapter and
verse on car injuries;!...

Whatever happened to the idea that to improve road safety steering
wheels should have a spike in the middle?

(This might be called \"safety hazard\", by analogy with \"moral hazard\".)

Did they ever decide if your automated care should save you or two strangers?

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 04 Mar 2023 13:57:51 -0000, tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote:

You will deserve what happens next.

Very unlikely for all those things to happen at once. I didn\'t get vaccinated
either,


I never wear a seatbelt,



I remember as a lad going to nick a few light bulbs from cars at Ron
Charlton\'s scrapyard. Whilst going about that we noticed the number of
cars that had very bent steering wheels, this i was told was because
the drivers having hit most anything their body flew forward and their
chest impacted the wheel and bent it, and no way could we bend it back.

Ron\'s old boy there said that most all the drivers in that sort of
impact didn\'t survive

Then came a seatbelt\'s and that became a thing of the past once people
started using them and we got round the stupidity of \"its better to be
thrown clear of the car you know\" idiocy.

I know someone who\'s an ex A&E consultant he\'ll give you chapter and
verse on car injuries;!...

You\'re missing one important thing - likelihood. At what chance fo death would you decide to be safe? The answer is different for everyone.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 13:12:13 -0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 04/03/2023 13:57, tony sayer wrote:
You will deserve what happens next.

Very unlikely for all those things to happen at once. I didn\'t get vaccinated
either,


I never wear a seatbelt,



I remember as a lad going to nick a few light bulbs from cars at Ron
Charlton\'s scrapyard. Whilst going about that we noticed the number of
cars that had very bent steering wheels, this i was told was because
the drivers having hit most anything their body flew forward and their
chest impacted the wheel and bent it, and no way could we bend it back.

Ron\'s old boy there said that most all the drivers in that sort of
impact didn\'t survive

I used to go motor racing, spectator only. I saw a man killed in front
ofme when he spun his vintage car and with no seat belts fitted was
able to jump out and sprint to the edge of the track. The car behind him
swerved and missed his car but killed him.
In front of his family.

The stupid cunt that swerved instead of applying brakes should be shot. Never avoid something by placing your car in a lower state of control and going towards something unexpected.

I have seen cars in the most unbelievable crashed and the driver walk
away uninjured, but shaken, Because they had full roll cages and four
point harnesses.

There\'s a difference between the danger level on a race track and a motorway.

Driving down the A10 towards Cambridge I saw some lights weave and flash
and end up off the road. A Rover 3500 with 4 lads in it was upside down
in a ditch., The front seat passengers crawled out and were OK, shaken,
but not injured. The rear seat passengers without seat belts were
covered in blood, and had I think a broken arm, and a dislocated collar
bone and multiple lacerations from being thrown against a lot of broken
glass and in fact contact with the ditch outside

The police said they were overtaking at an estimated 120mph and swerved
to avoid an oncoming car.

Conclusive proof you can survive 120mph with no seatbelt.

A mother was killed in another incident when she rammed a car in front
and her son, sitting behind her, without a seatbelt head butted her with
his forehead and smashed her skull.

Maybe she should pay attention to the road ahead. Thicko removed form the gene pool.

Then came a seatbelt\'s and that became a thing of the past once people
started using them and we got round the stupidity of \"its better to be
thrown clear of the car you know\" idiocy.

Only case of that was not a car but a motorbike, which being thrown
clear of is somewhat of an advantage. Friend in Africa told me where the
scars came from \'I was going along fast and I came to a corner
unexpectedly, and there was a brick wall in front of me. I knew I
couldn\'t make it, and decided to go out in a burst of glory, so I opened
up the throttle. And my front wheel caught the kerb and catapulted me
over the wall into a thorn tree and the ground, which smashed my collar
bone, and put scratches down my face, but here I am...\'

There\'s something wrong with the world when they say we have to wear seatbelts, but we can ride a motorbike which has a far higher chance of death.

I know someone who\'s an ex A&E consultant he\'ll give you chapter and
verse on car injuries;!...

Indeed. In a car accident the safest place to be is inside the passenger
compartment well strapped in. On a motorbike there is no passenger
compartment, just a lump of metal with sharp edges.

There are crumple zones nowadays, you don\'t need the belt anymore.

> Motorcyclists wear leather skin guards and a bone dome, not seatbelts

Nah, this is more fun: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0e/8e/45/0e8e458cfde94c52af1efb0280fdd7dc.jpg

You can omit a seat belt if you like, but I wont. Not ever. And wont
drive unless my passengers don\'t too. Not because it\'s a legal
requirement, but because I have seen what happens in a crash if you don\'t.

WTF gives you the right to dictate your passenger\'s safety? Let them make their own decisions. Not everyone\'s a fucking nancy boy.

 

[Mark Lloyd]

On 3/16/23 08:47, Max Demian wrote:

[snip]

Is that a good idea? I used to live in a place where the bog was piss
colour. Er, fawn.

When piss color gets old, it can turn into shit color.

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

\"If 50 million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish
thing\" [Anatole France]

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 19:20:23 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 13:12:13 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

I used to go motor racing, spectator only. I saw a man killed in front
ofme when he spun his vintage car and with no seat belts fitted was
able to jump out and sprint to the edge of the track. The car behind him
swerved and missed his car but killed him.

There was a freak accident at the Lime Rock sports car track. The driver
was strapped in with the regulation three point harness but had the bad
luck up ending up upside down on a large anthill. Can\'t win them all.

Was he eaten to death?

The first iteration of seat belts in the US were two point lap belts. They
may not have prevented smashing your brains out on the dash but at least
they kept you on the correct side of the car in the days of vinyl covered
bench seats. My wife knew things were going to get interesting when I
advised her to buckle her belt. While I liked her and everything I
preferred not having her sitting in my lap at an inopportune moment.

I received a blowjob while driving. Apparently that\'s illegal, no idea why. I don\'t need that appendage to drive.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 10:59:12 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 05/03/2023 03:30, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 24 Feb 2023 13:31:30 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:

\"Licence\" is a funny word.

The law isn\'t funny it\'s a pest.

It means freedom. But when an activity is
\"licensed\" it means that you need special permission to do what you
could previously do anyway.

They don\'t understand the word \"endorsement\" either. It actually means
to support something, yet they say the points on your driving license
are endorsements. Bu they\'re disallowing you! Get too many and they
take it away!

It also means, \"To write one\'s signature on the back of a cheque, or
other negotiable instrument, when transferring it to a third party, or
cashing it.\" So you are *approving* the payment.

Then that might be done with a rubber stamp if you are \"endorsing\" a lot
of cheques. Haven\'t you heard of \"endorsing ink\" used to recharge rubber
stamp pads?

As you just said endorsing means \"approving\". So approving the disapproval of your driving ability? WTF?

When driving licences were little books with multiple pages, courts
would stamp details of speeding convictions on the pages. That was
called \"endorsing\" the licence. When you had more than three (I think)
endorsements you lost your licence for a period, equivalent to the
modern \"totting up\" of points. That\'s why the word \"endorsement\" is used
when you get points.

They wear off pretty quickly, you just have to talk your way out of enough pig stops so you only get about one ticket a year.

I don\'t suppose you remember the old style licences; they were little
hard bound books about 3\" x 2.25\". On the front page you stuck a licence
sticker which you got from the Post Office when you renewed it:
provisional licences lasted six months and full licences three years.

Only 3 years? What was required to renew it?

Then they introduced the \"paper\" licences in the mid 70s, initially
green ink on white paper.

I started with one of those. I don\'t have any license now, I lost it 5 years ago. It\'s somewhere in the house.... Quite funny if a pig asks if I have a license and I say \"no I lost it\", they always misunderstand.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 19:57:25 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 10:59:12 +0000, Max Demian wrote:

When driving licences were little books with multiple pages, courts
would stamp details of speeding convictions on the pages. That was
called \"endorsing\" the licence. When you had more than three (I think)
endorsements you lost your licence for a period, equivalent to the
modern \"totting up\" of points. That\'s why the word \"endorsement\" is used
when you get points.

That explains it. In the US and endorsement is a positive thing. For
example my license has a motorcycle endorsement. When I had a CDL it had
hazardous materials, double/triples, and tanker endorsements.

My point exactly, the Brits use it incorrectly.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 09:06:56 -0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 05/03/2023 19:57, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 5 Mar 2023 10:59:12 +0000, Max Demian wrote:

When driving licences were little books with multiple pages, courts
would stamp details of speeding convictions on the pages. That was
called \"endorsing\" the licence. When you had more than three (I think)
endorsements you lost your licence for a period, equivalent to the
modern \"totting up\" of points. That\'s why the word \"endorsement\" is used
when you get points.

That explains it. In the US and endorsement is a positive thing. For
example my license has a motorcycle endorsement. When I had a CDL it had
hazardous materials, double/triples, and tanker endorsements.

Endorsement really means no more than \'write on the back of\'

The points are on the front of the license.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 10:05:45 -0000, jon <jon@nospam.cn> wrote:

On Mon, 06 Mar 2023 09:11:50 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 05/03/2023 19:03, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 18:56:37 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 14:48:36 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 09:23:56 -0000, NY wrote:


Nasty. A teacher at my school, 40 years ago, had a blotchy face and
bald patches in his hair. He told us that he\'d been working on his
car some years before and a spanner slipped and shorted across the
battery terminals. The battery exploded, showering him with acid.


Like many companies we sometimes had summer employees that happened
to be related to someone up the hierarchy. One managed to explode the
battery on a forklift trying to jump start it. Fortunately he wasn\'t
injured. Returning a vice president\'s favorite son worse for the wear
isn\'t a good career move.

What did he do, jump start it from the mains?

Possibly hooked it up backwards; we weren\'t sure. The forklift was an
older gasoline powered model that tended to mark its territory. He was
lucky the whole thing didn\'t go up in a ball of fire.
In the case I witnessed, the thing had been on charge all night and
still wouldn\'t start so they tried to jump it and the spark ignited the
hydrogen.

Split the battery wide open and dropped sulphuric acid on the floor

Yes, a well known effect. Should have had the final connection on remote
battery.

People keep saying that, yet I\'ve never managed it. I always connect + to + and - to - on the batteries themselves, in any order, like 99% of people do.

Firstly, why would you be connecting a battery which has already been on charge? Secondly, if a battery is giving off hydrogen in that high a quantity, isn\'t it losing half it\'s material?

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 19:03:01 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 18:56:37 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 14:48:36 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 09:23:56 -0000, NY wrote:


Nasty. A teacher at my school, 40 years ago, had a blotchy face and
bald patches in his hair. He told us that he\'d been working on his car
some years before and a spanner slipped and shorted across the battery
terminals. The battery exploded, showering him with acid.


Like many companies we sometimes had summer employees that happened to
be related to someone up the hierarchy. One managed to explode the
battery on a forklift trying to jump start it. Fortunately he wasn\'t
injured. Returning a vice president\'s favorite son worse for the wear
isn\'t a good career move.

What did he do, jump start it from the mains?

Possibly hooked it up backwards; we weren\'t sure. The forklift was an
older gasoline powered model that tended to mark its territory. He was
lucky the whole thing didn\'t go up in a ball of fire.

Must have been fucking big jump leads, I would of thought the leads would die before the battery.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 03:43:25 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 01:55:18 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:


There\'s another thing, why do women\'s bikes have a lower crossbar? It\'s
the men who don\'t want to land on it!

Modesty, a forgotten concept...

I wish.

How does 1 to 12 work then? The angle must be absurd.

The chain wheel is centered relative to the cluster. I often stay on the
middle chain wheel and it works fairly well across the cluster, unlike the
little chain wheel and the outside gear on the cluster. I believe the
chains are narrower allowing the cassette gears to be closer too.

What we really need are legs like motors with a wider range of speeds.

There\'s a fairly wide range. I\'m generally in the 70 - 80 rpm range. I\'m
not in the Clydesdale class but I\'m not a gracile sort that can crank out
110 rpm.

Even an engine has wider range than our pitiful legs.

They should have a gearbox like a car or motorbike.

The Sturmey-Archer planetary hubs are sort of like TorqueFlite
transmission. I\'ve taken both apart. Lot of little bits and pieces.

Do they ever have more than 3 gears?

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 13:21:24 -0000, jim.gm4dhj <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:

On 06/03/2023 03:48, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 12:42:41 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2023-02-21 14:01, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/02/2023 12:24, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Wrap a strand of copper wire between the two screws. That\'s the fuse.

In my youth, that\'s how we detonated our home made explosives. a short
length of fuse wire or a strand from a multicore flex, , a battery -
often just a lantern battery, and some match heads...

Never tried that, but I wanted to do it. I knew it should work.

Best to buy 100 fireworks and make them into one firework.
or buy a Ludlow Kissel dago bomb

I wish I\'d witnessed that in person.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 11:06:28 -0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On 07/03/2023 05:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
When the front of car A hits the back of car B, car B is damaged 10
times less then car A. Might cost you a little bit, but it costs them a
lot.

True. When a car ran into the back of me at a roundabout (he thought it
was safe for me to set off, I didn\'t!)

Ah, you\'re one of those. Won\'t go until you have enough room for a fucking bus.

my tailgate was dented and the
lock didn\'t quite engage with the striker plate, though my tow rope
round the inside metalwork of the tailgate made the car safe to drive
until I took it to a garage.

Why make it safe? Just drive along with it open. More downforce innit?

His car suffered a ruptured radiator. I couldn\'t work out which bit of
my car had punctured his radiator - it\'s not even as if I had a tow bar.
So he was stranded.

Radiators really should have some kind of sturdy cover.

A young woman rear ended me on a motorway, my towbar went straight through her radiator, and her headlight and bonnet were busted by my bumper. When we stopped, she asked \"was it you I hit?!?\" as there was no damage to my car at all. I refused her offer of her insurance details as I had nothing to claim. I told her not to tell her insurance company as the premium rise would be higher than just buying some bits from a scrapyard.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 07 Mar 2023 20:11:44 -0000, Jim Joyce <none@none.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:06:28 +0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On 07/03/2023 05:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
When the front of car A hits the back of car B, car B is damaged 10
times less then car A. Might cost you a little bit, but it costs them a
lot.

True. When a car ran into the back of me at a roundabout (he thought it
was safe for me to set off, I didn\'t!) my tailgate was dented and the
lock didn\'t quite engage with the striker plate, though my tow rope
round the inside metalwork of the tailgate made the car safe to drive
until I took it to a garage.

His car suffered a ruptured radiator. I couldn\'t work out which bit of
my car had punctured his radiator - it\'s not even as if I had a tow bar.
So he was stranded.

It surely depends on multiple factors, including the specific vehicles
involved. About 25 years ago I rear-ended a Nissan Ultima with my \'94
Toyota 4x4 pickup. The impact didn\'t feel severe to me but when I got
out, I saw that the Nissan was crumpled all the way to the rear window..

The window should be at the very back, or was it one of those utterly stupid saloons?

> (It was eventually totaled by her insurance company.)

I love it when they do that. I made a profit of £600 by repairing what they said was not repairable.

> I had several scratches on my front bumper and a single scratch on one fender.

I hope you got them to pay for those scratches

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 00:07:59 -0000, Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> wrote:

Am 07.03.23 um 21:11 schrieb Jim Joyce:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:06:28 +0000, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On 07/03/2023 05:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
When the front of car A hits the back of car B, car B is damaged 10
times less then car A. Might cost you a little bit, but it costs them a
lot.

True. When a car ran into the back of me at a roundabout (he thought it
was safe for me to set off, I didn\'t!) my tailgate was dented and the
lock didn\'t quite engage with the striker plate, though my tow rope
round the inside metalwork of the tailgate made the car safe to drive
until I took it to a garage.

His car suffered a ruptured radiator. I couldn\'t work out which bit of
my car had punctured his radiator - it\'s not even as if I had a tow bar.
So he was stranded.

It surely depends on multiple factors, including the specific vehicles
involved. About 25 years ago I rear-ended a Nissan Ultima with my \'94
Toyota 4x4 pickup. The impact didn\'t feel severe to me but when I got
out, I saw that the Nissan was crumpled all the way to the rear window.
(It was eventually totaled by her insurance company.) I had several
scratches on my front bumper and a single scratch on one fender.

I once lived in Berlin-Schöneberg, only 400 meters away from
David Bowie and Iggy Pop, when I suddenly heard police
and tyre noise from a 7x0? BMW driven by a Turkish Teeny. The
Policemen could drive, even with their VW Bully, the Teeny not really.

The police shouldn\'t be encouraging accidents.

The street was not wide, so the BMW ended in the back of
a Mazda 626, moving the 626 rear bumper into the driver seat.
The car that was parking in front of it was a total loss, too.
With the help of a crowbar, they could drive the BMW to the next
crossing.

Satisfied BMW customer since then. I could not ignore that.
And yes, I\'ve destroyed a 535 in aquaplaning, mostly. But I\'m still alive.

This video contains some pics of the hood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fWw7FE9tTo

Cheers, Gerhard