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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Cite
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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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that.
Let's throw Mexico in there and see if your claims hold up.
Nope?
Looks like your theory is wrong then.
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ZqdnQ5a9KXv1wrSnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@westnet.com.au...Sorry, at best that establishes a correlation, and a cherry picked one at
that.
Let's throw Mexico in there and see if your claims hold up.
Nope?
Looks like your theory is wrong then.
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On 4/25/2012 4:14 AM, Bert wrote:
Touche !!
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SaPeIsMa
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"Rheilly Phoull" <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote in message
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Don't need lollipops
http://www.spanglercandy.com/candy-store/dum-dum-pops?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=g_dumdums&gclid=CJSV_f6Qz68CFSQCQAodt3aXIw
I carry HP ammo specially loaded for snubbies instead.
Goes in .357", comes out ,53"
Used the same bullet last fall, with a tad more powder in a Marlin lever
action, to knock a deer down at 60 yards.
Didn't have any lollipops then either
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Dum-dums ??
Don't need lollipops
http://www.spanglercandy.com/candy-store/dum-dum-pops?WT.srch=1&WT.mc_id=g_dumdums&gclid=CJSV_f6Qz68CFSQCQAodt3aXIw
I carry HP ammo specially loaded for snubbies instead.
Goes in .357", comes out ,53"
Used the same bullet last fall, with a tad more powder in a Marlin lever
action, to knock a deer down at 60 yards.
Didn't have any lollipops then either
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SaPeIsMa
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#######
#>UN snip
##>> dechuklehead is a stupid and ignorant troll
##>> It's only use is for you to use it as a foil, to show how stupid some
##>> posters actually are, and also as a means to educate the lurkers
##>> Otherwise, it's wise to just ignore it.
#>
#> resorting to the ad hom attack I see, a sure sign that you have no
logical
#> arguments
#
#
#What "ad hom" are you babbling about, chucklehead ?
#1) I wasn't responding to you
#2) I was describing you to a third party
#3) There was NO argument on your part that I ignored
# Ergo - NO "ad hominem"
#
#Apparently you're not even smart enough to understand the difference
between
#a simple description and an ad hominem
# Try using a dictionary BEFORE you come back to prove you're an idiot
############
actually is.
Since you keep proving your ignorance
So let's make it simple for the simpleton
A) Insulting you IN LIEU of an argument is an Ad Hom
B) Insulting you while making an argument is NOT an Ad Hom
C) Insulting you while describing you to a 3rd party is NOT an Ad Hom
IN the above case, I was doing C)
Insulting you while describing you to a 3rd party.
Ergo
NOT an Ad Hom..
On the other hand, when a loser like you tries to FALSELY invoke an Ad Hom,
it's a sign that you are running away with your tail between your legs and
are trying to salvage as much face as possible, which in your case is a very
minimal amount anyway, to make the effort highly questionable.
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#######
#>UN snip
##>> dechuklehead is a stupid and ignorant troll
##>> It's only use is for you to use it as a foil, to show how stupid some
##>> posters actually are, and also as a means to educate the lurkers
##>> Otherwise, it's wise to just ignore it.
#>
#> resorting to the ad hom attack I see, a sure sign that you have no
logical
#> arguments
#
#
#What "ad hom" are you babbling about, chucklehead ?
#1) I wasn't responding to you
#2) I was describing you to a third party
#3) There was NO argument on your part that I ignored
# Ergo - NO "ad hominem"
#
#Apparently you're not even smart enough to understand the difference
between
#a simple description and an ad hominem
# Try using a dictionary BEFORE you come back to prove you're an idiot
############
Apparently Google is not yours, since you can't even look up what an Ad Hom
actually is.
Since you keep proving your ignorance
So let's make it simple for the simpleton
A) Insulting you IN LIEU of an argument is an Ad Hom
B) Insulting you while making an argument is NOT an Ad Hom
C) Insulting you while describing you to a 3rd party is NOT an Ad Hom
IN the above case, I was doing C)
Insulting you while describing you to a 3rd party.
Ergo
NOT an Ad Hom..
On the other hand, when a loser like you tries to FALSELY invoke an Ad Hom,
it's a sign that you are running away with your tail between your legs and
are trying to salvage as much face as possible, which in your case is a very
minimal amount anyway, to make the effort highly questionable.
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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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But then I do NOT "fear my government"
And you have far more to fear from YOUR government, since it's turning you
from a freeman to a subject/slave
After all when your government has all the guns and the citizens have none,
they are in no position to stand up to their government
Here in the US, the world's largest army of armed citizens is fielded
annually, every fall.
They're called hunters.
And they outnumber by a VERY LARGE margin, all the police and military.
And the police and military know it.
Can you say the same where you are ?
In the US there are over 300,000,000 guns in the hands of over 60,000,000
households (note the word households not citizens- There can be multiple
adults per household).
And yet there are less than 800 accidental deaths and 8000 injuries
annually.
Compare that to cars in the US, that cause 43000+ accidental deaths,
6,000,000+ injuries, and $10+billion in damage annually.
Then there is the fact that over 2,500,000 people AVOID being the victims of
criminals annually because they are armed.
Are you stupid enough to claim that adding 2,500,000 extra victims to the
crime rolls outweighs 800 accidental deaths ?
Being called a "paranoid gun nutter" by an ignorant dolt is not insult.
Sonny, I'm fluent in 3 languages and taught University in 2 of them
You've demonstrated that you're just a minor league player, with no hope of
rising higher.
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Nope
But then I do NOT "fear my government"
And you have far more to fear from YOUR government, since it's turning you
from a freeman to a subject/slave
After all when your government has all the guns and the citizens have none,
they are in no position to stand up to their government
Here in the US, the world's largest army of armed citizens is fielded
annually, every fall.
They're called hunters.
And they outnumber by a VERY LARGE margin, all the police and military.
And the police and military know it.
Can you say the same where you are ?
TOTAL IGNORANT BULLSHIT (as usual)
In the US there are over 300,000,000 guns in the hands of over 60,000,000
households (note the word households not citizens- There can be multiple
adults per household).
And yet there are less than 800 accidental deaths and 8000 injuries
annually.
Compare that to cars in the US, that cause 43000+ accidental deaths,
6,000,000+ injuries, and $10+billion in damage annually.
Then there is the fact that over 2,500,000 people AVOID being the victims of
criminals annually because they are armed.
Are you stupid enough to claim that adding 2,500,000 extra victims to the
crime rolls outweighs 800 accidental deaths ?
LOLI would suggest that you read the material on JPF
Start here:
http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/about.htm
ANd then go here to read about how successful gun-control has been in the
killing of over 100,000,000 in the previous century
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
But a fatuous fool like you would naturally choose to ignore such with
the false argument that it can not happen where you are.
Go ask the Abos in your backyard, how true that notion is..
They are your prime example of a people who were NOT able to stand up
against the thugs who came to take their land and for all intents and
purposes enslave and destroy them.
You should also ask why the Romans and Greeks defined the difference
between slave and freemen was simply based on who could be armed, and who
could not.
You are a proponent to enslaving yourself, chuckles
How stupid is that ?
It now comes out you are a paranoid gun nutter
Being called a "paranoid gun nutter" by an ignorant dolt is not insult.
And the ignorant bigot surfaces..
Sonny, I'm fluent in 3 languages and taught University in 2 of them
You've demonstrated that you're just a minor league player, with no hope of
rising higher.
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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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If you want to compare
Criminal use of guns, then do so
But you had better separate out LAWFUL use of guns from that data
By conflating it all together, you are effectively lying by
misrepresentation
So let's do A REAL Comparison
1,500,000 criminal use of guns (including murder)
2,500,000 LEGAL USE of guns for self-defense
that's a 5:3 ratio in favor of having guns as a defensive tool against
criminals
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If you want to compare
Criminal use of guns, then do so
But you had better separate out LAWFUL use of guns from that data
By conflating it all together, you are effectively lying by
misrepresentation
So let's do A REAL Comparison
1,500,000 criminal use of guns (including murder)
2,500,000 LEGAL USE of guns for self-defense
that's a 5:3 ratio in favor of having guns as a defensive tool against
criminals
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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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A weasel response.
<chuckles is dancing around like a devil in holy water>
DO tell us which laws are those...
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LOL
A weasel response.
<chuckles is dancing around like a devil in holy water>
DO tell us which laws are those...
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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Why you little fascist hypocrite, you....
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"Some rules" ???
Why you little fascist hypocrite, you....
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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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You just blew your original position out of the water, chuckles
After all YOU are the one claiming that
" feeling the need (to be armed for self-defense)
they automatically show themselves
to (be) unsuitable to hold a gun license"
By your definition ANYONE who feels the need to prepare to protect their
families are
"unsuitable to hold a gun license"(your words)
There is a difference between adults and kids
Although your false argument basically ignores that
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You just blew your original position out of the water, chuckles
After all YOU are the one claiming that
" feeling the need (to be armed for self-defense)
they automatically show themselves
to (be) unsuitable to hold a gun license"
By your definition ANYONE who feels the need to prepare to protect their
families are
"unsuitable to hold a gun license"(your words)
More intellectual dishonesty from chuckles
There is a difference between adults and kids
Although your false argument basically ignores that
What is that nonsense phrase supposed to mean
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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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And you base this claim on WHAT DATA ?
Or is it just more of your ignorant shit ?
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And you base this claim on WHAT DATA ?
Or is it just more of your ignorant shit ?
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consider the US that? Why don't you compare it ap[ples with apples to a
country like Canada which shares your culture and values ecept for the gun
laws
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Why do you want to compare the US to some 3rd world shithole unless you"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The problems caused by having the population wandering around outways
the risks of an individual benefiting from defensive gun us
Ok....let's see your evidence for that then.
----> Insert facts, figures, other evidence, and cites for all of it
here.
US verses Australia overall homicide rate and injury and death by gunshot
Sorry, at best that establishes a correlation, and a cherry picked one at
that.
Let's throw Mexico in there and see if your claims hold up.
consider the US that? Why don't you compare it ap[ples with apples to a
country like Canada which shares your culture and values ecept for the gun
laws
I'd prefer apples with apples
no just compare it with your culurally alike northern neieghbour
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data from where?"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The problems caused by having the population wandering around outways
the risks of an individual benefiting from defensive gun us
Ok....let's see your evidence for that then.
----> Insert facts, figures, other evidence, and cites for all of it
here.
US verses Australia overall homicide rate and injury and death by gunshot
Most HOMICIDES are CRIMINAL acts
If you want to compare
Criminal use of guns, then do so
But you had better separate out LAWFUL use of guns from that data
By conflating it all together, you are effectively lying by
misrepresentation
So let's do A REAL Comparison
1,500,000 criminal use of guns (including murder)
2,500,000 LEGAL USE of guns for self-defense
that's a 5:3 ratio in favor of having guns as a defensive tool against
criminals
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dechucka
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you an anarchist are you?
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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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To a statist "slave" like you everyone must appear an anarchist.
I'm a Jacksonian
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LOL
To a statist "slave" like you everyone must appear an anarchist.
I'm a Jacksonian
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SaPeIsMa
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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Go read:
The Samurai, the Mountie, and the Cowboy:
Should America Adopt the Gun Controls of Other Democracies
David B. Kopel
Blow you and your implication right out of the water
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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The problems caused by having the population wandering around outways
the risks of an individual benefiting from defensive gun us
Ok....let's see your evidence for that then.
----> Insert facts, figures, other evidence, and cites for all of it
here.
US verses Australia overall homicide rate and injury and death by
gunshot
Sorry, at best that establishes a correlation, and a cherry picked one at
that.
Let's throw Mexico in there and see if your claims hold up.
Why do you want to compare the US to some 3rd world shithole unless you
consider the US that? Why don't you compare it ap[ples with apples to a
country like Canada which shares your culture and values ecept for the gun
laws
Nope?
I'd prefer apples with apples
Looks like your theory is wrong then.
no just compare it with your culurally alike northern neieghbour
Go read:
The Samurai, the Mountie, and the Cowboy:
Should America Adopt the Gun Controls of Other Democracies
David B. Kopel
Blow you and your implication right out of the water
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SaPeIsMa
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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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That's another website you should read from end to end, before spouting
more if your ignorance.
You see chuckles, many people on this group were even more ignorant than you
are.
But unlike you, they did their homework and got educated...
You should try it.
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Gunfacts.info"SaPeIsMa" <SaPeIsMa@HotMail.com> wrote in message
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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The problems caused by having the population wandering around outways
the risks of an individual benefiting from defensive gun us
Ok....let's see your evidence for that then.
----> Insert facts, figures, other evidence, and cites for all of it
here.
US verses Australia overall homicide rate and injury and death by
gunshot
Most HOMICIDES are CRIMINAL acts
If you want to compare
Criminal use of guns, then do so
But you had better separate out LAWFUL use of guns from that data
By conflating it all together, you are effectively lying by
misrepresentation
So let's do A REAL Comparison
1,500,000 criminal use of guns (including murder)
2,500,000 LEGAL USE of guns for self-defense
that's a 5:3 ratio in favor of having guns as a defensive tool against
criminals
data from where?
That's another website you should read from end to end, before spouting
more if your ignorance.
You see chuckles, many people on this group were even more ignorant than you
are.
But unlike you, they did their homework and got educated...
You should try it.
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Spartan613
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"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Your desire to continue interfering in the lives of law-abiding citizens is
noted.
Fucking fascist arsewipe.
--
"There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not
want merely because you think it would be good for him".
Robert A. Heinlein.
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4OdnVPbAbbiIw7SnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@westnet.com.au...Probably not.
Your desire to continue interfering in the lives of law-abiding citizens is
noted.
Fucking fascist arsewipe.
--
"There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not
want merely because you think it would be good for him".
Robert A. Heinlein.
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soft targets who are the Licenced firearm holders.
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Yes, like the Greens, he has no plan other than to take them away from the
soft targets who are the Licenced firearm holders.