Trevor Tosspot admits he seeks a total ban on the private ow

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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dechucka wrote:
Would pre Howard gun laws done anything to stop the current violence?


The current ones have not, so why were they changed?

You forgot to answer the question. Haven't seen any long arm massacres
since Port Arthur iirc


the total homicides are not decreasing by any appreciable amount.

keep squirming


Don't need to, statistics beats phobic paranoid rhetoric.
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Main statistic is no massacres using long arms since Port Arther, rather
destroys your pov don't you think
 
dechucka wrote:
"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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dechucka wrote:
Would pre Howard gun laws done anything to stop the current
violence?


The current ones have not, so why were they changed?

You forgot to answer the question. Haven't seen any long arm massacres
since Port Arthur iirc


the total homicides are not decreasing by any appreciable amount.

keep squirming


Don't need to, statistics beats phobic paranoid rhetoric.

Main statistic is no massacres using long arms since Port Arther, rather
destroys your pov don't you think
Click to expand...
people who seem to think that removal of the method of homicide that
they have a phobia about without altering the total homicides just
demonstrate their irrational fear about that particular inanimate object.
What we have to do as a people is concentrate on the real causes of
homicide not what is used to commit them.
 
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dechucka wrote:
Would pre Howard gun laws done anything to stop the current
violence?


The current ones have not, so why were they changed?

You forgot to answer the question. Haven't seen any long arm massacres
since Port Arthur iirc


the total homicides are not decreasing by any appreciable amount.

keep squirming


Don't need to, statistics beats phobic paranoid rhetoric.

dechuklehead is a stupid and ignorant troll
It's only use is for you to use it as a foil, to show how stupid some
posters actually are, and also as a means to educate the lurkers
Otherwise, it's wise to just ignore it.
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resorting to the ad hom attack I see, a sure sign that you have no logical
arguments
 
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dechucka wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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dechucka wrote:
Would pre Howard gun laws done anything to stop the current
violence?


The current ones have not, so why were they changed?

You forgot to answer the question. Haven't seen any long arm
massacres
since Port Arthur iirc


the total homicides are not decreasing by any appreciable amount.

keep squirming


Don't need to, statistics beats phobic paranoid rhetoric.

Main statistic is no massacres using long arms since Port Arther, rather
destroys your pov don't you think

people who seem to think that removal of the method of homicide that they
have a phobia about without altering the total homicides just demonstrate
their irrational fear about that particular inanimate object.
What we have to do as a people is concentrate on the real causes of
homicide not what is used to commit them.
Click to expand...
I totally agree with you. As a gun owner I am happy enough with the current
gun law but actually think that the "ban" on semi automatics is a bit silly.
Lets face it most people in Australia don't need guns so licensing should be
on a needs basis as it is now. One group who should never be allowed to own
guns imho is the "self defense lobby".
 
On 4/24/2012 5:01 AM, dechucka wrote:
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On 4/22/2012 3:35 PM, dechucka wrote:

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On 4/22/2012 7:30 AM, John-Melb wrote:
On Apr 22, 4:33 am, Trevor Wilson<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**No, we do not. Handguns are unnecessary in modern society (despite
the
delusions that afflict your good wife). The sooner they are banned
completely and possession laws can then be stengthened, the better.
Naturally, semi-auto and auto handguns must be banned immediately.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

With apologies to the Reverend Neimoller.

First they come for the semi-auto's, I didn't speak out, I didn't own
a semi-auto.
Then the come for the pump-actions, I didn't speak out, I didn't own a
pump-action.
Then they come for the handguns, I didn't speak out, I didn't own a
handgun.

I think we all know the rest.


Yeah, what a political knee jerk that one was. "I know, why don't we
take all the licensed weapons 'cause we can find those and give all
the crims a better advantage ??".

Guns in general are not licensed for self defense in Australia

That's true and with the increase in armed invasions I reckon it
should be reconsidered.

You really want to walk around in your home all the time with a loaded
gun? Should it be compulsory?
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It should be up to the individual to have that choice should they feel
the need.
 
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On 4/24/2012 5:01 AM, dechucka wrote:

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On 4/22/2012 3:35 PM, dechucka wrote:

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On 4/22/2012 7:30 AM, John-Melb wrote:
On Apr 22, 4:33 am, Trevor Wilson<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**No, we do not. Handguns are unnecessary in modern society (despite
the
delusions that afflict your good wife). The sooner they are banned
completely and possession laws can then be stengthened, the better.
Naturally, semi-auto and auto handguns must be banned immediately.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

With apologies to the Reverend Neimoller.

First they come for the semi-auto's, I didn't speak out, I didn't own
a semi-auto.
Then the come for the pump-actions, I didn't speak out, I didn't own
a
pump-action.
Then they come for the handguns, I didn't speak out, I didn't own a
handgun.

I think we all know the rest.


Yeah, what a political knee jerk that one was. "I know, why don't we
take all the licensed weapons 'cause we can find those and give all
the crims a better advantage ??".

Guns in general are not licensed for self defense in Australia

That's true and with the increase in armed invasions I reckon it
should be reconsidered.

You really want to walk around in your home all the time with a loaded
gun? Should it be compulsory?

It should be up to the individual to have that choice should they feel the
need.
Click to expand...
No it shouldn't because by feeling the need they automatically show
themselves to unsuitable to hold a gun license
 
On 24/04/2012 6:28 PM, dechucka wrote:
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On 4/24/2012 5:01 AM, dechucka wrote:

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On 4/22/2012 3:35 PM, dechucka wrote:

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On 4/22/2012 7:30 AM, John-Melb wrote:
On Apr 22, 4:33 am, Trevor Wilson<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**No, we do not. Handguns are unnecessary in modern society
(despite
the
delusions that afflict your good wife). The sooner they are banned
completely and possession laws can then be stengthened, the better.
Naturally, semi-auto and auto handguns must be banned immediately.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

With apologies to the Reverend Neimoller.

First they come for the semi-auto's, I didn't speak out, I didn't
own
Click to expand...

It should be up to the individual to have that choice should they feel
the need.

No it shouldn't because by feeling the need they automatically show
themselves to unsuitable to hold a gun license
Liar , the desire to protect ones self and family IS the very reason to
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own small arms , passing a fair test for carry is terribly difficult
and determines well that the permit holder is reliable and safe in
ownership

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On 4/24/2012 4:28 PM, dechucka wrote:
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On 4/24/2012 5:01 AM, dechucka wrote:

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On 4/22/2012 3:35 PM, dechucka wrote:

"Rheilly Phoull" <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote in message
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On 4/22/2012 7:30 AM, John-Melb wrote:
On Apr 22, 4:33 am, Trevor Wilson<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**No, we do not. Handguns are unnecessary in modern society
(despite
the
delusions that afflict your good wife). The sooner they are banned
completely and possession laws can then be stengthened, the better.
Naturally, semi-auto and auto handguns must be banned immediately.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

With apologies to the Reverend Neimoller.

First they come for the semi-auto's, I didn't speak out, I didn't
own
a semi-auto.
Then the come for the pump-actions, I didn't speak out, I didn't
own a
pump-action.
Then they come for the handguns, I didn't speak out, I didn't own a
handgun.

I think we all know the rest.


Yeah, what a political knee jerk that one was. "I know, why don't we
take all the licensed weapons 'cause we can find those and give all
the crims a better advantage ??".

Guns in general are not licensed for self defense in Australia

That's true and with the increase in armed invasions I reckon it
should be reconsidered.

You really want to walk around in your home all the time with a loaded
gun? Should it be compulsory?

It should be up to the individual to have that choice should they feel
the need.

No it shouldn't because by feeling the need they automatically show
themselves to unsuitable to hold a gun license
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It's not for me to judge but I really think you should get out more.
 
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dechucka wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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dechucka wrote:
Would pre Howard gun laws done anything to stop the current
violence?


The current ones have not, so why were they changed?

You forgot to answer the question. Haven't seen any long arm
massacres
since Port Arthur iirc


the total homicides are not decreasing by any appreciable amount.

keep squirming


Don't need to, statistics beats phobic paranoid rhetoric.

Main statistic is no massacres using long arms since Port Arther, rather
destroys your pov don't you think

people who seem to think that removal of the method of homicide that they
have a phobia about without altering the total homicides just demonstrate
their irrational fear about that particular inanimate object.
What we have to do as a people is concentrate on the real causes of
homicide not what is used to commit them.

I totally agree with you. As a gun owner I am happy enough with the
current gun law but actually think that the "ban" on semi automatics is a
bit silly. Lets face it most people in Australia don't need guns so
licensing should be on a needs basis as it is now. One group who should
never be allowed to own guns imho is the "self defense lobby".
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I see. So you are stating that self defense wouldn't be a legitimate need?
 
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On 4/24/2012 4:28 PM, dechucka wrote:

"Rheilly Phoull" <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote in message
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On 4/24/2012 5:01 AM, dechucka wrote:

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On 4/22/2012 3:35 PM, dechucka wrote:

"Rheilly Phoull" <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote in message
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On 4/22/2012 7:30 AM, John-Melb wrote:
On Apr 22, 4:33 am, Trevor Wilson<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**No, we do not. Handguns are unnecessary in modern society
(despite
the
delusions that afflict your good wife). The sooner they are banned
completely and possession laws can then be stengthened, the
better.
Naturally, semi-auto and auto handguns must be banned immediately.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

With apologies to the Reverend Neimoller.

First they come for the semi-auto's, I didn't speak out, I didn't
own
a semi-auto.
Then the come for the pump-actions, I didn't speak out, I didn't
own a
pump-action.
Then they come for the handguns, I didn't speak out, I didn't own a
handgun.

I think we all know the rest.


Yeah, what a political knee jerk that one was. "I know, why don't we
take all the licensed weapons 'cause we can find those and give all
the crims a better advantage ??".

Guns in general are not licensed for self defense in Australia

That's true and with the increase in armed invasions I reckon it
should be reconsidered.

You really want to walk around in your home all the time with a loaded
gun? Should it be compulsory?

It should be up to the individual to have that choice should they feel
the need.

No it shouldn't because by feeling the need they automatically show
themselves to unsuitable to hold a gun license

It's not for me to judge but I really think you should get out more.
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Probably be a few more years until his parole hearing.
 
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dechucka wrote:
Would pre Howard gun laws done anything to stop the current
violence?


The current ones have not, so why were they changed?

You forgot to answer the question. Haven't seen any long arm massacres
since Port Arthur iirc


the total homicides are not decreasing by any appreciable amount.

keep squirming


Don't need to, statistics beats phobic paranoid rhetoric.

Main statistic is no massacres using long arms since Port Arther, rather
destroys your pov don't you think
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And when was the last time such a massacre occurred BEFORE Port Arthur..
Port Arthur, while a tragedy, was a singular event.
You can NOT claim in any CAUSATIVE way, that the gun-control clampdown had
anything to do with preventing other such events.
Well, actually one can IF one is intellectually dishonest. It's the
equivalent of claiming that if a lightning strike occurs where there is no
historical evidence of lightning strikes, forcing everyone to install
lightning rods, has now completely eliminated lightning strikes.

But then the gun-control crowd does have a long history of lies and
dishonesty in the furtherance of it's agenda.
 
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dechucka wrote:

"F Murtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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dechucka wrote:
Would pre Howard gun laws done anything to stop the current
violence?


The current ones have not, so why were they changed?

You forgot to answer the question. Haven't seen any long arm
massacres
since Port Arthur iirc


the total homicides are not decreasing by any appreciable amount.

keep squirming


Don't need to, statistics beats phobic paranoid rhetoric.

Main statistic is no massacres using long arms since Port Arther, rather
destroys your pov don't you think

people who seem to think that removal of the method of homicide that they
have a phobia about without altering the total homicides just demonstrate
their irrational fear about that particular inanimate object.
What we have to do as a people is concentrate on the real causes of
homicide not what is used to commit them.

I totally agree with you. As a gun owner I am happy enough with the
current gun law but actually think that the "ban" on semi automatics is a
bit silly. Lets face it most people in Australia don't need guns so
licensing should be on a needs basis as it is now.
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Yup
Most people around the world don't "need" guns UNTIL the shit hits the fan
And then it's usually far too late to get guns
Just look at ANY countries history.
Sooner or later the shit will hit the fan, and those who will survive
will usually be those who quickly figure out how to keep the goblins from
killing them.


One group who should never be allowed to own guns imho is the "self defense
lobby".
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No big surprise that you would believe that.
So you would much prefer to have someone defenseless against a criminal
attack.
How considerate

I would suggest that you read the material on JPFo_Org
Start here:
http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/about.htm
ANd then go here to read about how successful gun-control has been in the
killing of over 100,000,000 in the previous century
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM

But a fatuous fool like you would naturally choose to ignore such with the
false argument that it can not happen where you are.
Go ask the Abos in your backyard, how true that notion is..
They are your prime example of a people who were NOT able to stand up
against the thugs who came to take their land and for all intents and
purposes enslave and destroy them.

You should also ask why the Romans and Greeks defined the difference between
slave and freemen was simply based on who could be armed, and who could not.

You are a proponent to enslaving yourself, chuckles
How stupid is that ?
 
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dechucka wrote:
Would pre Howard gun laws done anything to stop the current
violence?


The current ones have not, so why were they changed?

You forgot to answer the question. Haven't seen any long arm
massacres
since Port Arthur iirc


the total homicides are not decreasing by any appreciable amount.

keep squirming


Don't need to, statistics beats phobic paranoid rhetoric.

dechuklehead is a stupid and ignorant troll
It's only use is for you to use it as a foil, to show how stupid some
posters actually are, and also as a means to educate the lurkers
Otherwise, it's wise to just ignore it.

resorting to the ad hom attack I see, a sure sign that you have no logical
arguments
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What "ad hom" are you babbling about, chucklehead ?
1) I wasn't responding to you
2) I was describing you to a third party
3) There was NO argument on your part that I ignored
Ergo - NO "ad hominine"

Apparently you're not even smart enough to understand the difference between
a simple description and an ad hominem
Try using a dictionary BEFORE you come back to prove you're an idiot
 
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On 4/22/2012 7:30 AM, John-Melb wrote:
On Apr 22, 4:33 am, Trevor Wilson<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**No, we do not. Handguns are unnecessary in modern society (despite
the
delusions that afflict your good wife). The sooner they are banned
completely and possession laws can then be stengthened, the better.
Naturally, semi-auto and auto handguns must be banned immediately.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

With apologies to the Reverend Neimoller.

First they come for the semi-auto's, I didn't speak out, I didn't own
a semi-auto.
Then the come for the pump-actions, I didn't speak out, I didn't own a
pump-action.
Then they come for the handguns, I didn't speak out, I didn't own a
handgun.

I think we all know the rest.


Yeah, what a political knee jerk that one was. "I know, why don't we take
all the licensed weapons 'cause we can find those and give all the crims
a better advantage ??".

Guns in general are not licensed for self defense in Australia
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Why should they be ???
 
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On 4/22/2012 3:35 PM, dechucka wrote:

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On 4/22/2012 7:30 AM, John-Melb wrote:
On Apr 22, 4:33 am, Trevor Wilson<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**No, we do not. Handguns are unnecessary in modern society (despite
the
delusions that afflict your good wife). The sooner they are banned
completely and possession laws can then be stengthened, the better.
Naturally, semi-auto and auto handguns must be banned immediately.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

With apologies to the Reverend Neimoller.

First they come for the semi-auto's, I didn't speak out, I didn't own
a semi-auto.
Then the come for the pump-actions, I didn't speak out, I didn't own a
pump-action.
Then they come for the handguns, I didn't speak out, I didn't own a
handgun.

I think we all know the rest.


Yeah, what a political knee jerk that one was. "I know, why don't we
take all the licensed weapons 'cause we can find those and give all
the crims a better advantage ??".

Guns in general are not licensed for self defense in Australia

That's true and with the increase in armed invasions I reckon it should
be reconsidered.

You really want to walk around in your home all the time with a loaded
gun? Should it be compulsory?
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Most people would rather not have to
But smart people, unlike chuckleheads, realize that it's better to have that
option than not.
And most definitely not be at risk of prosecution, if they choose to do so
in the privacy of their homes.
That's something called "freedom of choice", a term that seems beyond
your ken.
 
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On 4/22/2012 3:35 PM, dechucka wrote:

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On 4/22/2012 7:30 AM, John-Melb wrote:
On Apr 22, 4:33 am, Trevor Wilson<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**No, we do not. Handguns are unnecessary in modern society (despite
the
delusions that afflict your good wife). The sooner they are banned
completely and possession laws can then be stengthened, the better.
Naturally, semi-auto and auto handguns must be banned immediately.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

With apologies to the Reverend Neimoller.

First they come for the semi-auto's, I didn't speak out, I didn't own
a semi-auto.
Then the come for the pump-actions, I didn't speak out, I didn't own
a
pump-action.
Then they come for the handguns, I didn't speak out, I didn't own a
handgun.

I think we all know the rest.


Yeah, what a political knee jerk that one was. "I know, why don't we
take all the licensed weapons 'cause we can find those and give all
the crims a better advantage ??".

Guns in general are not licensed for self defense in Australia

That's true and with the increase in armed invasions I reckon it
should be reconsidered.

You really want to walk around in your home all the time with a loaded
gun? Should it be compulsory?

It should be up to the individual to have that choice should they feel the
need.
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Indeed
 
In news:R5CdnV9Xvrrf-wnSnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@westnet.com.au "dechucka"
<dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote:

Haven't seen any long arm massacres since Port Arthur iirc
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How many did you see before?

--
bert@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
 
Bert <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:

In news:R5CdnV9Xvrrf-wnSnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@westnet.com.au "dechucka"
dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote:

Haven't seen any long arm massacres since Port Arthur iirc


How many did you see before?
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Here's one <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoddle_Street_massacre>.
 
On Apr 24, 12:30 pm, "dechucka" <dechuc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
"F Murtz" <hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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dechucka wrote:

"F Murtz" <hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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dechucka wrote:
Would pre Howard gun laws done anything to stop the current
violence?

The current ones have not, so why were they changed?

You forgot to answer the question. Haven't seen any long arm
massacres
since Port Arthur iirc

the total homicides are not decreasing by any appreciable amount.

keep squirming

Don't need to, statistics beats phobic paranoid rhetoric.

Main statistic is no massacres using long arms since Port Arther, rather
destroys your pov don't you think

people who seem to think that removal of the method of homicide that they
have a phobia about without altering the total homicides just demonstrate
their irrational fear about that particular inanimate object.
What we have to do as a people is concentrate on the real causes of
homicide not what is used to commit them.

I totally agree with you. As a gun owner I am happy enough with the current
gun law but actually think that the "ban" on semi automatics is a bit silly.
Lets face it most people in Australia don't need guns so licensing should be
on a needs basis as it is now. One group who should never be allowed to own
guns imho is the "self defense lobby".
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Just wondering why, as adults, people seem to think it to be ok not be
allowed the right to make their own decisions, instead want to pay a
group of officials (mostly corrupt/criminal types who do NOT represent
them) for permission as to whether or not they can own or use
something ?
 
"dechucka" <dechucka1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Rheilly Phoull" <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote in message
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On 4/24/2012 5:01 AM, dechucka wrote:

"Rheilly Phoull" <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote in message
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On 4/22/2012 3:35 PM, dechucka wrote:

"Rheilly Phoull" <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote in message
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On 4/22/2012 7:30 AM, John-Melb wrote:
On Apr 22, 4:33 am, Trevor Wilson<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:

**No, we do not. Handguns are unnecessary in modern society
(despite
the
delusions that afflict your good wife). The sooner they are banned
completely and possession laws can then be stengthened, the better.
Naturally, semi-auto and auto handguns must be banned immediately.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

With apologies to the Reverend Neimoller.

First they come for the semi-auto's, I didn't speak out, I didn't
own
a semi-auto.
Then the come for the pump-actions, I didn't speak out, I didn't own
a
pump-action.
Then they come for the handguns, I didn't speak out, I didn't own a
handgun.

I think we all know the rest.


Yeah, what a political knee jerk that one was. "I know, why don't we
take all the licensed weapons 'cause we can find those and give all
the crims a better advantage ??".

Guns in general are not licensed for self defense in Australia

That's true and with the increase in armed invasions I reckon it
should be reconsidered.

You really want to walk around in your home all the time with a loaded
gun? Should it be compulsory?

It should be up to the individual to have that choice should they feel
the need.

No it shouldn't because by feeling the need they automatically show
themselves to unsuitable to hold a gun license
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So a woman who is threatened by her ex, and thus feels a need to arm herself
to protect herself and her kids, is according to you "unsuitable to hold a
gun license"
How about a woman who is being stalked by a stranger? Is she also
"unsuitable to hold a gun license" because she wants to make sure she can
survive ?

Man you are one fucking stupid piece of shit...
 
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