Trevor Tosspot admits he seeks a total ban on the private ow

[Trevor Wilson]

On 5/3/2012 11:48 PM, SaPeIsMa wrote:

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I think the armed forces given their experience may know about these
dangers

They may know about them, but since they rely on the local
suppliers to supply them, how long do you think they will last if
the turn on the very people they are supposed to protect ?

come on a capitalist society like the US they'll always be able to
buy supplies

From whom?

How will they get it to where it is needed?

Do you think they can protect EVERYTHING 24/7/365?

I think they stand a better chance than some comparatively lightly
lightly armed militia

LOL
Tell that to the Swiss who have successfully done exactly that for
centuries

**What a joke. The only reason Switzerland was not invaded during WWII
was because they were the bankers to the Nazis. The Nazis knew that if
the wheels fell off their war plans, they could fall back on the
billions of DM stored in Swiss banks. Civilian militia groups have been
trumped by military technology. Even a well armed, trained military
force cannot stand up to superior military technology. I refer you to
Basra Road.

Tell that to the Fins when the stood up the Soviets in the Winter War.

**Ancient history, long supply lines and poorly equipped invasion armies.

Tell that to the Americans who did that to the Brits at the beginning of
their Revolution.

**REALLY ancient history.

Tell that to Castro in Cuba

**Again: Pooly equipped force.

Tell that to the Costa Ricans in 2 if not 3 of their revolutions.

**More poorly equipped forces. Is the US military poorly equipped?


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The problems caused by having the population wandering
around outways the risks of an individual benefiting
from defensive gun us

Ok....let's see your evidence for that then.

----> Insert facts, figures, other evidence, and cites
for all of it here.

US verses Australia overall homicide rate and injury and
death by gunshot

Sorry, at best that establishes a correlation, and a cherry
picked one at that.

Let's throw Mexico in there and see if your claims hold up.

Why do you want to compare the US to some 3rd world shithole

Because you claim it's all about the gun control. As such it
shouldn't matter what sort of country it is.

Are you saying your theories only work if you cherry pick the
countries?

But since you want to use 1st world countries...

Then let's compare to South Africa then.

It's a first world nation with strict gun control and another
example of the wonderfully low murder rates you claim always
results from that.

Classic cherry picking on your part. You seem to enjoy the
exceptions not the norms

I see... First I pick a close neighbor of the US and you say
that's not right because I should pick a 1st world nation

So I pick a first world nation, and again you're unhappy.


no I am perfectly happy for you to discuss the situation in SA.
I'll discuss Aus, NZ, Canada, France, Germany etc etc

Go right ahead....one case is all that is needed to disprove your
theory and since you've accepted one that means your theory as it
stands is crap.

so one exception proves the rule does it?


LOL
Not even smart enough to get that right.
It's ONE exception is ALL IT TAKES to DISprove the rule.

not in the real world i.e. all mammals give live birth except for
......

So you are claiming that gun control does not work "except for...
The problem with gun-control, is that there is an "except for", IN
EVERY CASE that has been presented, to invalidate the notion that
gun-control works...

except it does



Care to show any studies that present a causal effect of gun control laws
on violent crime?

No I'll just stick with commparisons between as like as possible countries

The Centers for Disease Control and the National

Academy of Science couldn't find one.

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George Burns


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snip

And in Australia, militia members do NOT keep FULL AUTO ASSAULT
RIFLES + AMMO in their houses.

under strict controls unlike in the US



Not many US households have full auto assault rifles in them.

so

 

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I think the armed forces given their experience may know about these
dangers

They may know about them, but since they rely on the local suppliers
to supply them, how long do you think they will last if the turn on
the very people they are supposed to protect ?

come on a capitalist society like the US they'll always be able to buy
supplies

From whom?

How will they get it to where it is needed?

Do you think they can protect EVERYTHING 24/7/365?

I think they stand a better chance than some comparatively lightly
lightly armed militia

LOL
Tell that to the Swiss who have successfully done exactly that for
centuries
Tell that to the Fins when the stood up the Soviets in the Winter War.
Tell that to the Americans who did that to the Brits at the beginning of
their Revolution.
Tell that to Castro in Cuba
Tell that to the Costa Ricans in 2 if not 3 of their revolutions.

do you want to go through the differences

Why don't you start with the similarities, moron.

 

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unfortunately guns give a hands off and to a certain extent an
impersonal way of killing

Another statement shows how ignorant you are
Most shootings can be summarized by the rule "3 shots, 3 yards, 3
seconds"
At 3 yards or less, shooting someone is neither "hands off" or
"impersonal".

a lot more hands off and impersonal than a stabbing or bludgeoning
someone and also more efficient

And naturally you speak from personal experience when you make this claim
???

I've never stabbed or bludgeoned someone to death

So then why are you babbling about a subject in which you are completely
ignorant ?
Oh wait, that is true on just about any subject in your case

 

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Not even smart enough to get that right.
It's ONE exception is ALL IT TAKES to DISprove the rule.

not in the real world i.e. all mammals give live birth except for
......

Which would disprove the rule that all mammals give live birth.

If an exception exists..... then the 'rule' is wrong.

an interesting argument dependent on your definition of a "rule"

WEASEL response..

bit beyond your thought processes obviously

Your weasel response ?
Needs very little processing.
Unlike you, even a potted plant can do it.

 

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The problems caused by having the population wandering
around outways the risks of an individual benefiting from
defensive gun us

Ok....let's see your evidence for that then.

----> Insert facts, figures, other evidence, and cites for
all of it here.

US verses Australia overall homicide rate and injury and death
by gunshot

Sorry, at best that establishes a correlation, and a cherry
picked one at that.

Let's throw Mexico in there and see if your claims hold up.

Why do you want to compare the US to some 3rd world shithole

Because you claim it's all about the gun control. As such it
shouldn't matter what sort of country it is.

Are you saying your theories only work if you cherry pick the
countries?

But since you want to use 1st world countries...

Then let's compare to South Africa then.

It's a first world nation with strict gun control and another
example of the wonderfully low murder rates you claim always
results from that.

Classic cherry picking on your part. You seem to enjoy the
exceptions not the norms

I see... First I pick a close neighbor of the US and you say that's
not right because I should pick a 1st world nation

So I pick a first world nation, and again you're unhappy.


no I am perfectly happy for you to discuss the situation in SA. I'll
discuss Aus, NZ, Canada, France, Germany etc etc

Go right ahead....one case is all that is needed to disprove your
theory and since you've accepted one that means your theory as it
stands is crap.

so one exception proves the rule does it?


LOL
Not even smart enough to get that right.
It's ONE exception is ALL IT TAKES to DISprove the rule.

not in the real world i.e. all mammals give live birth except for ......

So you are claiming that gun control does not work "except for...
The problem with gun-control, is that there is an "except for", IN EVERY
CASE that has been presented, to invalidate the notion that gun-control
works...

except it does

NOPE !
You have yet to even GRASP the concept of CAUSATION vs correlation
All you have done so far is correlation
And that is NO PROOF at all

Come back when you have worked your way up to proving causation and you'll
be credible
Until then you remain an ignorant blowhard

 

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The problems caused by having the population wandering around
outways the risks of an individual benefiting from defensive gun
us

Ok....let's see your evidence for that then.

----> Insert facts, figures, other evidence, and cites for all of
it here.

US verses Australia overall homicide rate and injury and death by
gunshot

Sorry, at best that establishes a correlation, and a cherry picked
one at that.

Let's throw Mexico in there and see if your claims hold up.

Why do you want to compare the US to some 3rd world shithole

Because you claim it's all about the gun control. As such it
shouldn't matter what sort of country it is.

Are you saying your theories only work if you cherry pick the
countries?

But since you want to use 1st world countries...

Then let's compare to South Africa then.

It's a first world nation with strict gun control and another example
of the wonderfully low murder rates you claim always results from
that.

Classic cherry picking on your part. You seem to enjoy the exceptions
not the norms


It's no more cherry-picking than you trying to cherry-pick with
Australia or Canada
In this case, South Africa, as a First-World country, CLEARLY counters
your objection to Mexico.
It also CLEARLY blows out your claim that gun-laws will make you safer
You can also use Switzerland or Finland, 2 other First-World countries
with loose gun laws and low crime and homicide rates.

much much tighter than the US's

Repeating that false comparison is just proof you lie.

Comparing Australia and Switzerland shows that Switzerland HAS FAR LESS
Crime than AUSTRALIA

so

You're clearly too fucking stupid to get it..
No big surprise.

And in Australia, militia members do NOT keep FULL AUTO ASSAULT RIFLES +
AMMO in their houses.

under strict controls unlike in the US

BULLSHIT
There are NO strict controls on militia members who have their MILITARY
ASSAULT RIFLES + AMMO in their closets AT HOME..
In the US NO member of ANY militia, the reserves or even ACTIVE units can
bring home their weapons and store them in their closets, ready for use

Once again you demonstrate you're an ignorant parrot, ignoring the facts and
trying to go around in circles to avoid facing the truth.

 

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I think the armed forces given their experience may know about
these
dangers

They may know about them, but since they rely on the local suppliers
to supply them, how long do you think they will last if the turn on
the very people they are supposed to protect ?

come on a capitalist society like the US they'll always be able to
buy supplies

From whom?

How will they get it to where it is needed?

Do you think they can protect EVERYTHING 24/7/365?

I think they stand a better chance than some comparatively lightly
lightly armed militia

LOL
Tell that to the Swiss who have successfully done exactly that for
centuries
Tell that to the Fins when the stood up the Soviets in the Winter War.
Tell that to the Americans who did that to the Brits at the beginning of
their Revolution.
Tell that to Castro in Cuba
Tell that to the Costa Ricans in 2 if not 3 of their revolutions.

do you want to go through the differences

Why don't you start with the similarities, moron.

there aren't any

 

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unfortunately guns give a hands off and to a certain extent an
impersonal way of killing

Another statement shows how ignorant you are
Most shootings can be summarized by the rule "3 shots, 3 yards, 3
seconds"
At 3 yards or less, shooting someone is neither "hands off" or
"impersonal".

a lot more hands off and impersonal than a stabbing or bludgeoning
someone and also more efficient

And naturally you speak from personal experience when you make this
claim ???

I've never stabbed or bludgeoned someone to death

So then why are you babbling about a subject in which you are completely
ignorant ?

You've got to have actually done it to know that something is true? What an
idiotic comment

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The problems caused by having the population wandering
around outways the risks of an individual benefiting from
defensive gun us

Ok....let's see your evidence for that then.

----> Insert facts, figures, other evidence, and cites for
all of it here.

US verses Australia overall homicide rate and injury and
death by gunshot

Sorry, at best that establishes a correlation, and a cherry
picked one at that.

Let's throw Mexico in there and see if your claims hold up.

Why do you want to compare the US to some 3rd world shithole

Because you claim it's all about the gun control. As such it
shouldn't matter what sort of country it is.

Are you saying your theories only work if you cherry pick the
countries?

But since you want to use 1st world countries...

Then let's compare to South Africa then.

It's a first world nation with strict gun control and another
example of the wonderfully low murder rates you claim always
results from that.

Classic cherry picking on your part. You seem to enjoy the
exceptions not the norms

I see... First I pick a close neighbor of the US and you say
that's not right because I should pick a 1st world nation

So I pick a first world nation, and again you're unhappy.


no I am perfectly happy for you to discuss the situation in SA.
I'll discuss Aus, NZ, Canada, France, Germany etc etc

Go right ahead....one case is all that is needed to disprove your
theory and since you've accepted one that means your theory as it
stands is crap.

so one exception proves the rule does it?


LOL
Not even smart enough to get that right.
It's ONE exception is ALL IT TAKES to DISprove the rule.

not in the real world i.e. all mammals give live birth except for
......

So you are claiming that gun control does not work "except for...
The problem with gun-control, is that there is an "except for", IN EVERY
CASE that has been presented, to invalidate the notion that gun-control
works...

except it does

NOPE !
You have yet to even GRASP the concept of CAUSATION vs correlation
All you have done so far is correlation
And that is NO PROOF at all

and you probably believe that smoking doesn't cause cancer

 

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The problems caused by having the population wandering around
outways the risks of an individual benefiting from defensive
gun us

Ok....let's see your evidence for that then.

----> Insert facts, figures, other evidence, and cites for all
of it here.

US verses Australia overall homicide rate and injury and death by
gunshot

Sorry, at best that establishes a correlation, and a cherry picked
one at that.

Let's throw Mexico in there and see if your claims hold up.

Why do you want to compare the US to some 3rd world shithole

Because you claim it's all about the gun control. As such it
shouldn't matter what sort of country it is.

Are you saying your theories only work if you cherry pick the
countries?

But since you want to use 1st world countries...

Then let's compare to South Africa then.

It's a first world nation with strict gun control and another
example of the wonderfully low murder rates you claim always results
from that.

Classic cherry picking on your part. You seem to enjoy the exceptions
not the norms


It's no more cherry-picking than you trying to cherry-pick with
Australia or Canada
In this case, South Africa, as a First-World country, CLEARLY
counters your objection to Mexico.
It also CLEARLY blows out your claim that gun-laws will make you safer
You can also use Switzerland or Finland, 2 other First-World
countries with loose gun laws and low crime and homicide rates.

much much tighter than the US's

Repeating that false comparison is just proof you lie.

Comparing Australia and Switzerland shows that Switzerland HAS FAR LESS
Crime than AUSTRALIA

so

You're clearly too fucking stupid to get it..
No big surprise.



And in Australia, militia members do NOT keep FULL AUTO ASSAULT RIFLES +
AMMO in their houses.

under strict controls unlike in the US


BULLSHIT
There are NO strict controls on militia members who have their MILITARY
ASSAULT RIFLES + AMMO in their closets AT HOME..

I gave you the cite please read it and learn something

In the US NO member of ANY militia, the reserves or even ACTIVE units can
bring home their weapons and store them in their closets, ready for use

Isn't the 2nd amendment all about the militia ;-)

 

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I think the armed forces given their experience may know about these
dangers

They may know about them, but since they rely on the local suppliers
to supply them, how long do you think they will last if the turn on
the very people they are supposed to protect ?

come on a capitalist society like the US they'll always be able to buy
supplies

From whom?

How will they get it to where it is needed?

Do you think they can protect EVERYTHING 24/7/365?

I think they stand a better chance than some comparatively lightly
lightly armed militia

Except what you fail to realize is that we don't have to. See the
government wouldn't know who is opposing them, and while those that are
identified would be quickly eliminated, that doesn't make up for the
continued loses by those still unknown.
We don't have to defend when no one is attacking, because they don't know
who to attack.

they may be a pain but if one looks at the IRA, the Basqes etc you may
only be that

Maybe, depends on the level of popular support, doesn't it?

 

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The problems caused by having the population wandering
around outways the risks of an individual benefiting
from defensive gun us

Ok....let's see your evidence for that then.

----> Insert facts, figures, other evidence, and cites
for all of it here.

US verses Australia overall homicide rate and injury and
death by gunshot

Sorry, at best that establishes a correlation, and a cherry
picked one at that.

Let's throw Mexico in there and see if your claims hold up.

Why do you want to compare the US to some 3rd world shithole

Because you claim it's all about the gun control. As such it
shouldn't matter what sort of country it is.

Are you saying your theories only work if you cherry pick the
countries?

But since you want to use 1st world countries...

Then let's compare to South Africa then.

It's a first world nation with strict gun control and another
example of the wonderfully low murder rates you claim always
results from that.

Classic cherry picking on your part. You seem to enjoy the
exceptions not the norms

I see... First I pick a close neighbor of the US and you say
that's not right because I should pick a 1st world nation

So I pick a first world nation, and again you're unhappy.


no I am perfectly happy for you to discuss the situation in SA.
I'll discuss Aus, NZ, Canada, France, Germany etc etc

Go right ahead....one case is all that is needed to disprove your
theory and since you've accepted one that means your theory as it
stands is crap.

so one exception proves the rule does it?


LOL
Not even smart enough to get that right.
It's ONE exception is ALL IT TAKES to DISprove the rule.

not in the real world i.e. all mammals give live birth except for
......

So you are claiming that gun control does not work "except for...
The problem with gun-control, is that there is an "except for", IN
EVERY CASE that has been presented, to invalidate the notion that
gun-control works...

except it does



Care to show any studies that present a causal effect of gun control laws
on violent crime?


No I'll just stick with commparisons between as like as possible countries

IOW, you don't have anything.

 

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So you are claiming that gun control does not work "except for...
The problem with gun-control, is that there is an "except for", IN
EVERY CASE that has been presented, to invalidate the notion that
gun-control works...

except it does



Care to show any studies that present a causal effect of gun control laws
on violent crime? The Centers for Disease Control and the National
Academy of Science couldn't find one.

Facts and data are IRRELEVANT and cherry-picked when they don't happen to
agree with his delusions.

 

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The problems caused by having the population wandering
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Ok....let's see your evidence for that then.

----> Insert facts, figures, other evidence, and cites
for all of it here.

US verses Australia overall homicide rate and injury and
death by gunshot

Sorry, at best that establishes a correlation, and a cherry
picked one at that.

Let's throw Mexico in there and see if your claims hold up.

Why do you want to compare the US to some 3rd world shithole

Because you claim it's all about the gun control. As such it
shouldn't matter what sort of country it is.

Are you saying your theories only work if you cherry pick the
countries?

But since you want to use 1st world countries...

Then let's compare to South Africa then.

It's a first world nation with strict gun control and another
example of the wonderfully low murder rates you claim always
results from that.

Classic cherry picking on your part. You seem to enjoy the
exceptions not the norms

I see... First I pick a close neighbor of the US and you say
that's not right because I should pick a 1st world nation

So I pick a first world nation, and again you're unhappy.


no I am perfectly happy for you to discuss the situation in SA.
I'll discuss Aus, NZ, Canada, France, Germany etc etc

Go right ahead....one case is all that is needed to disprove your
theory and since you've accepted one that means your theory as it
stands is crap.

so one exception proves the rule does it?


LOL
Not even smart enough to get that right.
It's ONE exception is ALL IT TAKES to DISprove the rule.

not in the real world i.e. all mammals give live birth except for
......

So you are claiming that gun control does not work "except for...
The problem with gun-control, is that there is an "except for", IN
EVERY CASE that has been presented, to invalidate the notion that
gun-control works...

except it does



Care to show any studies that present a causal effect of gun control laws
on violent crime?
The Centers for Disease Control and the National
Academy of Science couldn't find one.



No I'll just stick with commparisons between as like as possible countries

BULLSHIT

 

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The problems caused by having the population wandering
around outways the risks of an individual benefiting from
defensive gun us

Ok....let's see your evidence for that then.

----> Insert facts, figures, other evidence, and cites for
all of it here.

US verses Australia overall homicide rate and injury and death
by gunshot

Sorry, at best that establishes a correlation, and a cherry
picked one at that.

Let's throw Mexico in there and see if your claims hold up.

Why do you want to compare the US to some 3rd world shithole

Because you claim it's all about the gun control. As such it
shouldn't matter what sort of country it is.

Are you saying your theories only work if you cherry pick the
countries?

But since you want to use 1st world countries...

Then let's compare to South Africa then.

It's a first world nation with strict gun control and another
example of the wonderfully low murder rates you claim always
results from that.

Classic cherry picking on your part. You seem to enjoy the
exceptions not the norms


It's no more cherry-picking than you trying to cherry-pick with
Australia or Canada
In this case, South Africa, as a First-World country, CLEARLY
counters your objection to Mexico.
It also CLEARLY blows out your claim that gun-laws will make you
safer You can also use Switzerland or Finland, 2 other First-World
countries with loose gun laws and low crime and homicide rates.

much much tighter than the US's

Repeating that false comparison is just proof you lie.

Comparing Australia and Switzerland shows that Switzerland HAS FAR
LESS Crime than AUSTRALIA

so

And in Australia, militia members do NOT keep FULL AUTO ASSAULT
RIFLES + AMMO in their houses.

under strict controls unlike in the US



Not many US households have full auto assault rifles in them.

And NO ONE in the services has one issued to them to take home, that I know
of..

 

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And in Australia, militia members do NOT keep FULL AUTO ASSAULT
RIFLES + AMMO in their houses.

under strict controls unlike in the US

Not many US households have full auto assault rifles in them.

so

We'll accept your "so" as an admission of losing the argument.

 

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snip

Dealing with a 5 stupid year old is easier
Which current gun licensing laws in Australia
Be SPECIFIC, instead of trying to weasel with vague
generalizations.

that is specific as one can get

I'll accept that as an admission you don't know

as a gun owner I do and those are the laws

fyi
http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/fullhtml/inforce/subordleg+512+2006+FIRST+0+N

LOL
You need a permission to own a paint-ball gun
You need a permit to stage paint-ball games
Talk about a nanny state.
Ironic that since gun control was clamped down post Port Arthur, things
have gotten worse.

have they?

Yes they have
http://gunowners.org/sk0703.htm
* Australia: Readers of the USA Today newspaper discovered
in 2002 that, "Since Australia's 1996 laws banning most guns
and making it a crime to use a gun defensively,
armed robberies rose by 51%,
unarmed robberies by 37%,
assaults by 24%
and kidnappings by 43%.
While murders fell by 3%,
manslaughter rose by 16%."
Dr. John R. Lott, Jr., "Gun laws don't reduce crime,"
USA Today (May 9, 2002).
See also Rhett Watson and Matthew Bayley,
"Gun crime up 40pc since Port Arthur,"
The Daily Telegraph (April 28, 2002).

 

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Dealing with a 5 stupid year old is easier
Which current gun licensing laws in Australia
Be SPECIFIC, instead of trying to weasel with vague
generalizations.

that is specific as one can get

I'll accept that as an admission you don't know

as a gun owner I do and those are the laws

fyi
http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/fullhtml/inforce/subordleg+512+2006+FIRST+0+N

Still not citing the specific laws.
You are weaseling (as usual)


I have

You have NOT
You just sent me to the NSW statutes page
You have NOT CITED the specific law.