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On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 5:58:57 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
BS. This is the classic lib lie. At the time, the libs said Reagan was
the nuclear cowboy, that he was going to start WWIII. But now we're
supposed to believe that the Iranians had no reason to fear him. Jimmy
was a wuss. The Iranians knew it and played him like a fiddle. Reagan
showing up was like robbers in the night hearing the sound of cop sirens
coming. Just like robbers, the Iranians folded up their tent and moved on.
That is pure BS. Could a senile old man go head to head with Gorbachev at Geneva and Reyjavik? Not only go head to head, Reagan DEFEATED him.
Reagan held news conferences, answered questions, gave speeches, a guy
going senile could not do that. Where do you see that? Take a look
at Joe Biden, yet the Democrats are running him for president! Wow,
that's a good one!
He wasn't acting, the Reagan you saw was the real Reagan. He had deeply
held beliefs and principles that guided him through most of his life.
That's BS again. Reagan knew exactly what was going on.
>and especially not in the details.
That is true of just about all great leaders and CEOs.
Bingo.
No, ignorance of Reagan's record describes you. And I didn't claim ALL
ideas were his, but he expressed the ideas of freedom, free markets,
American exceptionalism, the evils of communism, the dangers of big
govt etc for decades BEFORE he was ever elected.
And even then, it is missing the key
Total BS, disproved by the record.
Not when you're spreading BS.
On 24/03/2020 17:57, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 10:39:39 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
On 24/03/2020 15:09, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:25:53 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:53:00 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 12:59:12 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Is C19 unique among seasonal flus in the way it propagates?
Not in the way it propagates, just in the lack of immune resistance in its target (us).
How many times do you have to hear that?
He has never heard it and won't hear it now. He is incapable of hearing anything he doesn't want to hear... not unlike Trump who Fauci said he has to tell as many as four times before something sinks in.
I think Trump is just too old for the job. Like Reagan he got the job, but is not able to process information adequately.
That;s stupid, even for you. Reagan was one of the most successful presidents
in US history. His record speaks for itself. When he entered office the
economy was a disaster, double digit inflation, we were demoralized,
Iran was holding us hostage, the Cold War was ongoing, Russia had invaded
Afghanistan, we had gone from Vietnam, to Watergate, to Carter's failed
presidency. His first day in office the Iranians released the hostages
because they feared Reagan, they knew he wasn't little pussy Jimmy.
By the time he left, America's spirit was restored, we were
respected around the world again, we had signed the largest nuke deal in
history, the first that REDUCED nuclear weapons and eliminated an entire
class, inflation back to normal, interest rates back to normal, 21 mil
new, good jobs in everything from construction to high tech. Oh, and
the USSR went to the ash heap of history, we won, they lost.
How well did Reagan's war on drugs go?
That about says it all, that you have to go to that to bitch about.
You listed a range of Reagan's successes (or in some cases, things you
/think/ were Reagan's successes) as though he were superman. I merely
noted his most spectacular failure as a counter-example. (I don't
actually count this failure against him - the state of drug use under
both earlier and later presidents, and across the world, shows that you
can't stamp it out effectively.)
How can Reagan possibly get credit for ending the Iran hostage crisis
minutes after he was sworn in?
Because the Iranians knew Reagan wasn't a wimp like Jimmy and that he
would end it one way or another and that wasn't going to be good for them.
Jimmy could have ended it too, but he was a wimp.
Oh, nonsense. That's pure marketing piddle. The Iranians knew fine the
situation couldn't last forever, and the deal with a large sum of money
was the best they could get. They'd have handed over the hostages
regardless of who came next as president.
BS. This is the classic lib lie. At the time, the libs said Reagan was
the nuclear cowboy, that he was going to start WWIII. But now we're
supposed to believe that the Iranians had no reason to fear him. Jimmy
was a wuss. The Iranians knew it and played him like a fiddle. Reagan
showing up was like robbers in the night hearing the sound of cop sirens
coming. Just like robbers, the Iranians folded up their tent and moved on.
That's sillier than saying Obama
deserved the Nobel Peace Prize for not yet having started any wars.
Carter caused the hostage crisis, and Carter bought his way out of it -
the release was merely timed to annoy him.
Overall, Reagan was quite successful. But that is not at odds with
saying he was old and unable to process information very well.
Well obviously it is.
No, it is not. Regan was succumbing to senility while he was president,
and probably started before that. His career was based on his ability
to act like a cowboy.
That is pure BS. Could a senile old man go head to head with Gorbachev at Geneva and Reyjavik? Not only go head to head, Reagan DEFEATED him.
Reagan held news conferences, answered questions, gave speeches, a guy
going senile could not do that. Where do you see that? Take a look
at Joe Biden, yet the Democrats are running him for president! Wow,
that's a good one!
You sound like the pundits that said Gorbachev
was going to screw the old man over at Geneva. Instead what happened?
Gorbachev came rolling up in that big Russia limo, emerged all bundled
up in a coat and hat, Reagan came bounding down the steps, out into the
cold in just his suit. He greated Gorbachev and towered over him
The US had already won round one. Who said that? One of the Russian
foreign ministry people that was there, said it years later.
He acted like a cowboy. That happened to be the right thing at the
right time.
He wasn't acting, the Reagan you saw was the real Reagan. He had deeply
held beliefs and principles that guided him through most of his life.
Look, I am /agreeing/ that he did quite a good job as a president. He
was certainly a world apart from your current muppet. I am merely
saying that he did it without having a great understanding of what was
going on,
That's BS again. Reagan knew exactly what was going on.
>and especially not in the details.
That is true of just about all great leaders and CEOs.
But that is a /good/ thing
for a leader - the leader is supposed to make sure he/she is surrounded
with the right people for the details, and trust in their advice.
Bingo.
- he delegated to
people who did quite well at running the place. Trump is also an actor,
but he believes his own tripe and thinks he /can/ run the show. That's
why Reagan did well and Trump is a disaster.
That's BS too. Reagan had twenty years of putting forth ideas, writing
papers, hosting radio talk shows about everything from man's relationship
with govt to nuclear arms control and the USSR. Reagan had 8 years under
his belt as governor. Trump had none of that and the difference sure shows.
Besides that, Trump really is stupid and has mental problems.
You think all the ideas Reagan put forward where /his/ ideas? NaĂŻve
doesn't begin to describe that.
No, ignorance of Reagan's record describes you. And I didn't claim ALL
ideas were his, but he expressed the ideas of freedom, free markets,
American exceptionalism, the evils of communism, the dangers of big
govt etc for decades BEFORE he was ever elected.
And even then, it is missing the key
point - he may have been smart in his younger days, but he was old and
getting senile by his presidency time.
Total BS, disproved by the record.
But we can agree that he was worlds above Trump. And even if we
disagree about how smart or how old and doddery Reagan was as president,
I think we can agree he was always smarter than Trump.
And I think we can also agree to leave this here.
Not when you're spreading BS.