Is Anyone in Charge of the Response to COVID-19?

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 5:58:57 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
On 24/03/2020 17:57, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 10:39:39 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
On 24/03/2020 15:09, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:25:53 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:53:00 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 12:59:12 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Is C19 unique among seasonal flus in the way it propagates?

Not in the way it propagates, just in the lack of immune resistance in its target (us).

How many times do you have to hear that?

He has never heard it and won't hear it now. He is incapable of hearing anything he doesn't want to hear... not unlike Trump who Fauci said he has to tell as many as four times before something sinks in.

I think Trump is just too old for the job. Like Reagan he got the job, but is not able to process information adequately.

That;s stupid, even for you. Reagan was one of the most successful presidents
in US history. His record speaks for itself. When he entered office the
economy was a disaster, double digit inflation, we were demoralized,
Iran was holding us hostage, the Cold War was ongoing, Russia had invaded
Afghanistan, we had gone from Vietnam, to Watergate, to Carter's failed
presidency. His first day in office the Iranians released the hostages
because they feared Reagan, they knew he wasn't little pussy Jimmy.
By the time he left, America's spirit was restored, we were
respected around the world again, we had signed the largest nuke deal in
history, the first that REDUCED nuclear weapons and eliminated an entire
class, inflation back to normal, interest rates back to normal, 21 mil
new, good jobs in everything from construction to high tech. Oh, and
the USSR went to the ash heap of history, we won, they lost.


How well did Reagan's war on drugs go?

That about says it all, that you have to go to that to bitch about.


You listed a range of Reagan's successes (or in some cases, things you
/think/ were Reagan's successes) as though he were superman. I merely
noted his most spectacular failure as a counter-example. (I don't
actually count this failure against him - the state of drug use under
both earlier and later presidents, and across the world, shows that you
can't stamp it out effectively.)



How can Reagan possibly get credit for ending the Iran hostage crisis
minutes after he was sworn in?

Because the Iranians knew Reagan wasn't a wimp like Jimmy and that he
would end it one way or another and that wasn't going to be good for them.
Jimmy could have ended it too, but he was a wimp.


Oh, nonsense. That's pure marketing piddle. The Iranians knew fine the
situation couldn't last forever, and the deal with a large sum of money
was the best they could get. They'd have handed over the hostages
regardless of who came next as president.

BS. This is the classic lib lie. At the time, the libs said Reagan was
the nuclear cowboy, that he was going to start WWIII. But now we're
supposed to believe that the Iranians had no reason to fear him. Jimmy
was a wuss. The Iranians knew it and played him like a fiddle. Reagan
showing up was like robbers in the night hearing the sound of cop sirens
coming. Just like robbers, the Iranians folded up their tent and moved on.





That's sillier than saying Obama
deserved the Nobel Peace Prize for not yet having started any wars.
Carter caused the hostage crisis, and Carter bought his way out of it -
the release was merely timed to annoy him.

Overall, Reagan was quite successful. But that is not at odds with
saying he was old and unable to process information very well.

Well obviously it is.

No, it is not. Regan was succumbing to senility while he was president,
and probably started before that. His career was based on his ability
to act like a cowboy.

That is pure BS. Could a senile old man go head to head with Gorbachev at Geneva and Reyjavik? Not only go head to head, Reagan DEFEATED him.
Reagan held news conferences, answered questions, gave speeches, a guy
going senile could not do that. Where do you see that? Take a look
at Joe Biden, yet the Democrats are running him for president! Wow,
that's a good one!




You sound like the pundits that said Gorbachev
was going to screw the old man over at Geneva. Instead what happened?
Gorbachev came rolling up in that big Russia limo, emerged all bundled
up in a coat and hat, Reagan came bounding down the steps, out into the
cold in just his suit. He greated Gorbachev and towered over him
The US had already won round one. Who said that? One of the Russian
foreign ministry people that was there, said it years later.

He acted like a cowboy. That happened to be the right thing at the
right time.

He wasn't acting, the Reagan you saw was the real Reagan. He had deeply
held beliefs and principles that guided him through most of his life.




Look, I am /agreeing/ that he did quite a good job as a president. He
was certainly a world apart from your current muppet. I am merely
saying that he did it without having a great understanding of what was
going on,

That's BS again. Reagan knew exactly what was going on.


>and especially not in the details.

That is true of just about all great leaders and CEOs.





But that is a /good/ thing
for a leader - the leader is supposed to make sure he/she is surrounded
with the right people for the details, and trust in their advice.

Bingo.




- he delegated to
people who did quite well at running the place. Trump is also an actor,
but he believes his own tripe and thinks he /can/ run the show. That's
why Reagan did well and Trump is a disaster.

That's BS too. Reagan had twenty years of putting forth ideas, writing
papers, hosting radio talk shows about everything from man's relationship
with govt to nuclear arms control and the USSR. Reagan had 8 years under
his belt as governor. Trump had none of that and the difference sure shows.
Besides that, Trump really is stupid and has mental problems.


You think all the ideas Reagan put forward where /his/ ideas? NaĂŻve
doesn't begin to describe that.

No, ignorance of Reagan's record describes you. And I didn't claim ALL
ideas were his, but he expressed the ideas of freedom, free markets,
American exceptionalism, the evils of communism, the dangers of big
govt etc for decades BEFORE he was ever elected.


And even then, it is missing the key
point - he may have been smart in his younger days, but he was old and
getting senile by his presidency time.

Total BS, disproved by the record.



But we can agree that he was worlds above Trump. And even if we
disagree about how smart or how old and doddery Reagan was as president,
I think we can agree he was always smarter than Trump.

And I think we can also agree to leave this here.

Not when you're spreading BS.
 
On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 6:36:47 AM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Rick C wrote:

I've been in the stores and shelves are not empty.

Really? Is it just NYC? Lots of shelves are empty. Any product that
disinfects, like bleech or wipes, and toilet paper and tissues, and
water. The meat cases are 70-90% empty. I had to get there at 7am to
get a pack of toilet paper, which was limited to 1-to-a-customer. The
clerks say that old people are making repeat visits to get more because
it's all rationed at 1 per visit.

It's like buying toilet paper in the Soviet Union, unprecedented around
here. Maybe people expecting a hurricane in Florida have experienced
this but never here before.


"Do" what???

Hoard, obviously.



I expected us to have WORKING test kits when this started
[...]
That's a far cry from having "the kits at the beginning".

That sounds inconsistent.

I can tell you NJ the stores have had big supply problems for weeks now.
Still no paper products, bleach, wipes, etc. Limited availability of
beef or no beef at all. Supermarket here was limiting what meat they
had to one package per customer per type. The few times I've been out
included right when they opened.
 
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 5:55:53 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:5944d48a-6a57-4e9c-b548-0e23e766c966@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 10:49:08 AM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:dcfbf2cd-fa8e-47f6-a95c-b14c921d4e99@googlegroups.com:

That;s stupid, even for you. Reagan was one of the most
successful presidents in US history. His record speaks for
itself. When he entered office the economy was a disaster,
double digit inflation,

You are an idiot. The dow jones has been on a steady uphill
climb
since the early '70s.

I see you're as ignorant about the market as everything else. The
Dow was in the 900's in the mid 60s. It was stuck there for over
15 years. It didn't break 1000 until 1982 and
that's not even adjusting for inflation. When Reagan left it was
2.5x what it was when he came into office.


It was a slow, steady rise,

That's a lie, it basically went sideways for 15 years prior to the 80s
and adjusted for inflation, it lost ground.





and what casued it to pop was the
consumer electronics industry, then personal computers, you stupid
PUTZ! Not a goddamned thing Reagan did was going to stop that
already moving train you are 100% oblivious of.

You want to claim you're a Republican again?





It grew far faster AFTER Reagan left office.
America is so great that the economy really does not have much to
do with the sitting president at any one moment,

That's incredibly ignorant, even for you.

It did, you stupid fuck. It was on the rise alreay and the
electronics industry continued to boom long after he left office and
AGAIN, it had NOTHING to do with him.

You really think a
confiscatory tax rate of 70% instead of 28% has no effect? Even
lib economists like Keynes would tell you you're a fool.

You are the fool for your "this is the libs and these are the
conservatives" partisan divisive atitude, and it is wrong and you are
wrong, little boy.

You want to claim you're a Republican again?



despite the fact that
they always lay claims do being the very engine of that growth.
That is false. America is great, and presidential fuckups
USUALLY do not weigh in much... until now.

we were demoralized,

You are an idiot. Your whore mother was demoralized.

Iran was holding us hostage,

Iran was holding US citzens hostage for political purpose and
because they have no clue what the UN is, yes.

The UN? WTF does the UN have to do with the price of tea in
China?

So, you are so fucking stupid that you do not know what a UN
signatorey nation is, much less the weight that carries. Par for the
course for a retarded Trumpesquian fucktard like you.

I know the UN didn't get the hostages released, stupid. Iran didn't give
a flying f*** about the UN.



That had nothing to
do with the party or the person in the office of the president at
the time.

Of course it did. The Iranians knew Carter was a feckless wuss.

You are a goddamned idiot. The release deal was already in the
pipe BY WAY OF CARTER, you stupid little partisan bitch. Go read
some more of your Trumpesquian non-facts, punk fuck PUTZ!

Sure, because they knew a president was arriving who would not allow
Iran to rub America;s nose in the dirt.



Reagan they feared might nuke them.

You are an idiot living in your little republican dream world.

You want to claim you're a Republican again?




It
bent you then, and you are still bent, you fucking retard.

Not that such a thing was
required, all it took was the Iranians knowing that we had a
president that was not going to take their shit.

Again, your made up horseshit and the truth are two mutually
exclusive elements.

You should be flailing wildly in a lye pit after a nice
vivisection.

the Cold War was ongoing,

Nor did that. Russia's economy was in freefall failure. They
were
doomed regardless, and reagan's tear down the wall speech was a
trigger that was going to be pulled regardless.

BS. When Reagan came into office and even up until the end,
neither US intel nor any other intel agencies around the world
believed Russia was failing, could be broken.

You are a true idiot. They were not permitted onto the world
economy and they had to make all their outside purchases with Gold or
US dollars. You really are one stupid fuck.

I guess you don't know even the US was doing trade with Russia,
eg agricultural sales. But it's irrelevant, the CIA and foreign intel
agencies did not realize the Russian economy was as bad as it really was,
Reagan did.





You know who did?
REAGAN. His idea wasn't detente, it was we win they lose. He got
them into an arms race they couldn't win, it helped bankrupt them.

They were headed that way already, and the space race tipped them,
but was not the only factor, you retarded tunnel vissioned PUTZ!

The space race was over in 1969, we won, they lost.




He made Afghanistan hell on Earth for them too.

He gave them stinger missiles and their helos were doomed from then
on. They decdied to leave.

Well you finally got something right.




Most
importantly, he showed the world what freedom and capitalism can
do with a revitalized American economy.

You are an idiot. We are now and were then the strongest in the
world.

Apparently you didn't live through the 70s. Google for Jimmy's malaise
speech.



Even as factories you seem to fail to factor in were closing
across the nation due to Japanese steel and CNC robotics horning in
on our more expensive products.

Ever heard of Conconnati Milacron? I didn;t think so. They were
the top. You could not pick up or use a product that was not made on
or had parts made with Cincinnati machine tools.

But you are too fucking stupid to track the erosion. You just want
to bolster your party.

My party? You're confused again. I'm an independent conservative.
The GOP is YOUR party, you claim to be a member of what has become the
cult of Trump. YOU are enabling him.




You also believe the retarded lie that they released the
hostages
out of fear of Reagan.

You're damn right they did.

No, pathetic child, they did not.

You really are a true idiot. Go read about
the timeline, you retarded putz.

We know the timeline, within hours of Reagan being sworn in, the
hostages were on a plane home.

Yes, due to an aggreement set up days before he ever came near the
oval office YOU RETARDED, HORSE BLINDER WEARING, FOOLISH PUTZ
MOTHERFUCKER!!!

He didn't have to take office stupid. It;s like criminals hearing the
sound of cop cars in the distance, they know the jig is up, they cut
their losses and run.




Damn you FAT FUCKTARDS are stupid! Go splurge on another 20,000
kcalories worth of 1/4 pounders. DIE ALREADY!

See, this is how you get yourself exposed as the village idiot. You just
spew forth nonsense without regard to facts, which you obviously do not have.




And if you think that none of the players have any more Neutron
devices you really are troubled by tunnel vision.

Go look at a map and tell us again... where did mother Russia
go?

WAY BIGGER THAN WE ARE.

That's incredibly stupid, even for you.

You think the neutron devices are gone, little boy?

You think the KGB is dead?

You are a true idiot.

You are CREDIBLY STUPID. Bwuahahahahaha!
 
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:50:00 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:11:32 PM UTC-4,
I suspect there was a back channel. The timing, the very day that
Reagan was inagurated, was no coincidence. I'd love to know what
Reagan told them.

It had nothing to do with Reagan. The Iranians and the US had essentially agreed on every part of the release.

ROFL. That's a good one, even for you. It just so happened that the Iranians
decided out of the goodness of their hearts to end it as Reagan was about
to enter office. You libs are really something. On the one hand Reagan
was supposed to be the crazy nuclear cowboy, he was going to start WWIII,
but it had no effect on Iran releasing the hostages.

ROFL again!




The hostages would have been released the day before Reagan's inauguration, but a last minute detail with the banks was raised. The transfer of ownership of gold was required rather than the transfer of US dollars, so the actual release did not happen until the next day after Reagan's inauguration..
Was this a matter of spite, very possibly. Was it because of some threat from Reagan, very unlikely. Thinking Reagan had something to do with the release is really just fantasy.

Just another silly lib denier.







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On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 2:12:24 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:09:47 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:25:53 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:53:00 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 12:59:12 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Is C19 unique among seasonal flus in the way it propagates?

Not in the way it propagates, just in the lack of immune resistance in its target (us).

How many times do you have to hear that?

He has never heard it and won't hear it now. He is incapable of hearing anything he doesn't want to hear... not unlike Trump who Fauci said he has to tell as many as four times before something sinks in.

I think Trump is just too old for the job. Like Reagan he got the job, but is not able to process information adequately.

That;s stupid, even for you. Reagan was one of the most successful presidents
in US history. His record speaks for itself. When he entered office the
economy was a disaster, double digit inflation, we were demoralized,
Iran was holding us hostage, the Cold War was ongoing, Russia had invaded
Afghanistan, we had gone from Vietnam, to Watergate, to Carter's failed
presidency. His first day in office the Iranians released the hostages
because they feared Reagan, they knew he wasn't little pussy Jimmy.
By the time he left, America's spirit was restored, we were
respected around the world again, we had signed the largest nuke deal in
history, the first that REDUCED nuclear weapons and eliminated an entire
class, inflation back to normal, interest rates back to normal, 21 mil
new, good jobs in everything from construction to high tech. Oh, and
the USSR went to the ash heap of history, we won, they lost.

Remember "Tear down this wall, Mr Gorbachev"? Which he promptly did.

But don't confound these haters with facts. Facts just rev them up
more.



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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

That's right. Prior to Reagan the idea of dealing with the USSR had been
containment and trying to co-exist. Reagan's idea was simple. We win,
they lose. He re-moralized it, explained to the world why they were the
evil empire and we were the shining city on the hill. The libs were horrified
at that, said he was going to start WWIII. The results speak for themselves.
 
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:43:01 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:22:27 PM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 10:51:36 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 10:16:08 AM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 10:09:36 PM UTC-4, mpm wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:11:51 PM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:
The market will recover and people's investments will return.

Not if the company goes bankrupt. The stockholders typically get wiped
out.


Yeah, that part's not quite true.
And it depends greatly upon the type of bankruptcy.


A reorganization or restructuring writes off debt, but is done so in a manner adjudicated fair by the bankruptcy judge. Nearly all debt holders will take some sort of a haircut, and some get warrants too.


If it's a liquidation (no re-org possible), then the company is sold off and the proceeds go to the debt holders, typically with senior debt paid first, and the rest to subordinated debt (if any monies or value-assets remain).

But people get paid. Ever hear of "Pennies on the dollar"?
Occasionally, people go to prison.


I agree. The point is that with America shut down, we don't have the
time to go through a bankruptcy process for each of the companies and
find out, like Rick wants. It's that simple. Even Obama recognized
that. Today many Democrats have gone Bernie commie crazy. As further
evidence, look at the Democrats trying to queer the emergency stimulus
by trying to put carbon restriction on the airlines in it, insisting
that $30K in student loans be forgiven, etc. Totally nuts.

You are showing that you don't understand the most basic of issues regarding the impact on the economy. Going through bankruptcy won't require businesses to stop doing anything. They can continue to function the entire time.

And what happens when the suppliers have their credit lines reduced,
cut because vendors to them are unsure if their bills will be paid?

You don't know much about business. The smaller suppliers live and die on the larger customers. They give them credit because that's what it takes to get the business. It's only 30 days.

No, you don't understand what I'm talking about. As soon as there is talk
of someone going into bankruptcy, creditors throughout the supply chain
get worried and it's those that extend credit to them that can start to
cut back on credit lines and exposure. Even your Democrat buddies understand
this, they are passing the bailout. It doesn't put companies into
bankruptcy.




It's not like it's a make or break decision for anyone. Don't give them credit and they'll go elsewhere.

Sure. Good luck with that, getting new credit lines when you're business
is in the toilet. In the toilet, not just because of company A going
BANKRUPT, but also because all your business is in the crapper due to Covid..
Knowing your attitude, just let them go bankrupt, it would be pretty
stupid to extend more credit to companies in crisis. Even loons like
Pelosi and Schumer understand that.


Everyone will be hurting so there will be plenty of suppliers looking for your business.
What happens to money market funds holding any paper? What happens
to the pension funds that take a hit as the stock goes to zero?
And why do that? Oh, because you and Bernie think it's a great idea
instead of making loans. You want all the above damage to occur and
only then make the loans. REally stupid, even for you. Is that what
Obama did?

WTF are you babbling about? Yes, that is exactly what Obama did, lend money to GM and others through bankruptcy getting a piece of the company in the process. That's where I got the idea.

BS. GM was the exception, the vast majority of companies that Obama,
yes, that's right, OBAMA bailed out did not file for bankruptcy.



This is not likely to last long enough to actually cause our major businesses to go bankrupt anyway.

And you know this how? You've analyzed the cash flows?



That's why there's no need for massive aid to every company.

No one has said it will be to every company.



Tesla has already said they have enough funds to ride this out. GM is closing down many of it's plants as is Ford as they switch direction from gas vehicles to battery. In some ways this will be good for them.

That's incredibly stupid, even for you.

Don't talk to me, tell that to Tesla.

Show us where Tesla said the Covid disaster will be good for them.



Now they don't have to pay salaries and can spend their time doing engineering and design which they so desperately need to complete to complete the switch over.

Boeing may be a different story. Yes, bankruptcy is one potential result and there is no reason to bail them out without many assurances to the US taxpayers.

I think this conversation has reached an end. I hear what you are saying but I don't agree. The main difference is I am not calling you names. When you argue with DLUNU I have a hard time telling who is who because of the excessive personal insults on both sides. I usually skip reading past the first paragraph because the rest is all repetitious insults.

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Too bad, but there is only so much stupid that one can tolerate.
 
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:05cf85d3-df9b-4007-
a0bd-528602fb82b0@googlegroups.com:

Just another silly lib denier.

You really need to eat a baseball bat, boy.

You partisan dumbfucks are the problem.

I want the problem erased painlessly for all but you.

You deserve vivisection, then an alcohol dip, then a toss into a lye
pit wher you can writhe in pain for a few more seconds as you die from
breathing lye powder.

It would make a great youtube video to play for others like you,
before we toss them into the lye pit on top of you.

You, motherfucker, are the problem.
 
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:81ddb831-8881-4558-ab91-ae97afe9242e@googlegroups.com:

> BS. This is the classic lib lie.

Damn, you are stupid, boy! You partisan dumbfucks need DEATH as a
cure for what ails us.


At the time, the libs said
Reagan was the nuclear cowboy,

You are an idiot. The words of one politician does not reflect the
entire party, and you are WAY too fucking stupid to grasp that
fact... obviously.

> that he was going to start WWIII.

You are an idiot.

But now we're supposed to believe that the Iranians had no reason
to fear him.

You are an abject idiot. The deal was made BEFORE Reagan, you
STUPID FUCK!

> Jimmy was a wuss.

You criminal mother was an anal whore. She failed by not flushing
the piece of shit that is you, motherfucker.

The Iranians knew it and played
him like a fiddle.

You are an idiot, and your partisan baby bullshit mindset has
played your wee wittle bwain like a fiddle, you stupid fuck.

Reagan showing up was like robbers in the
night hearing the sound of cop sirens coming. Just like robbers,
the Iranians folded up their tent and moved on.

You keep living in your delusion, chump. I'll keep thinking that
you need to be greeted with a baseball bat across the face.
 
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:78856a7f-5a19-4bc6-
96d9-1184a6e942ae@googlegroups.com:

> Apparently you didn't live through the 70s.

Fuck you. I lived. You were a partisan retard then as now.

Your utter stupidity has no end.
 
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
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That's a lie, it basically went sideways for 15 years prior to the
80s and adjusted for inflation, it lost ground.

From the late '60s up into the '80s it slowly rose the SAME way it
had for decades. The boom, which your retarded wee wittle bwain
wants to atribute to Reagan, was the result of the electronics
industry boom. The long steady rise would have been faster IF the
steel industry was not taking a hit throughout the entire '70s decade
the way it did.
So you, as usual, FAIL to examine ALL of the data, because you want
to cherry pick and point fingers of blame, when you are the one whom
is 100% clueless and usinf incomplete sets of data to base your
bullshit claim on.

I know, however, that a partisan dumbfuck like you has no clue how
industrial America rose and fell and rose. Because you are a true
idiot. All of you partisan dumbfucks are idiots.
 
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:7fba36f8-427a-49ab-8c83-00dba04282d1@googlegroups.com:

We win,
they lose.

You're an idiot. We lose because gene pool tainting retards like
you exist.

He re-moralized it,

Your whore mother's assfuck desires... Let's hope not. The piece
of shit she spewed onto the world with you was enough.

explained to the world why they
were the evil empire and we were the shining city on the hill.

You are an idiot.

> The libs were horrified at that, said he was going to start WWIII.

You are a total retard. Kill yourself, stupid fuck.
 
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:78856a7f-5a19-4bc6-96d9-1184a6e942ae@googlegroups.com:

I know the UN didn't get the hostages released, stupid. Iran
didn't give a flying f*** about the UN.

You are a true idiot. Iran was one of the original members you
stupid fuck.

You apparently do not give a flying fuck (and you are a typing pussy
too)about facts.
 
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:78856a7f-5a19-4bc6-
96d9-1184a6e942ae@googlegroups.com:

Sure, because they knew a president was arriving who would not allow
Iran to rub America;s nose in the dirt.

You really are a bigger picture dumbfuck, boy.

Go have another fat boy meal, you lard assed dumbfuck.
 
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:78856a7f-5a19-4bc6-96d9-1184a6e942ae@googlegroups.com:

I guess you don't know even the US was doing trade with Russia,
eg agricultural sales. But it's irrelevant, the CIA and foreign
intel agencies did not realize the Russian economy was as bad as
it really was, Reagan did.

We sent Russia undreds of thousands of tons of wheat for deacdes.
Long before reagan, you retarded twit.

But it was never for rubles, you stupid fucktard.

And the entire planet knew that Russia was on hard times. You could
not be more stupid if you tried.
 
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:78856a7f-5a19-4bc6-
96d9-1184a6e942ae@googlegroups.com:

The space race was over in 1969, we won, they lost.

You really are one stupid fuck.

The space race continues to this day.

You are a true loser, fat ass.
 
On 25/03/2020 14:27, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 5:58:57 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:

And I think we can also agree to leave this here.

Not when you're spreading BS.

Talk to someone who cares.

How your country ended up so divided, I can't understand. There are
just so many political fanatics that it is hard to see how you can
remain a single country. (I really hope you do, of course - civil war
is not good for anyone inside or outside the country.) People like you
are so brainwashed that you think every Republican is a genius who did
nothing but good while all Democrat politicians are the devil in
disguise. Democrat fanatics are only marginally less bad. You have no
nuance, no shades of grey - no ability to see that perhaps someone else
has a point, or that perhaps what you have heard is somewhat biased.

There are some Americans (including some voices of reason in this group)
who seem to be able to transcend this bickering and see that your
country is in deep trouble at the moment, and has to pull together to
survive. I hope they are the ones that win out in the end.
 
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:78856a7f-5a19-4bc6-
96d9-1184a6e942ae@googlegroups.com:

and what casued it to pop was the
consumer electronics industry, then personal computers, you stupid
PUTZ! Not a goddamned thing Reagan did was going to stop that
already moving train you are 100% oblivious of.

You want to claim you're a Republican again?

Nice job of putting up a valid argument... NOT!
You are a fucking joke, boy.

You are a partisan retard. You are so clueless as to be worse than
Trump himself, and he is a party interloper. But I happen to know that
the word 'interloper' is outside your depth of understanding.

You are a total retard and you actually think you are smart. You
epitomize the kruger dunning effect. But you won't see it, child.
 
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:l5sm7f1u08cc44hofo9i1k3min3k27p315@4ax.com:

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 05:58:59 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 2:12:24 PM UTC-4,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:09:47 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:25:53 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:53:00 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 12:59:12 PM UTC-7,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

Is C19 unique among seasonal flus in the way it
propagates?

Not in the way it propagates, just in the lack of immune
resistance in its target (us).

How many times do you have to hear that?

He has never heard it and won't hear it now. He is incapable
of hearing anything he doesn't want to hear... not unlike
Trump who Fauci said he has to tell as many as four times
before something sinks in.

I think Trump is just too old for the job. Like Reagan he
got the job, but is not able to process information
adequately.

That;s stupid, even for you. Reagan was one of the most
successful presidents in US history. His record speaks for
itself. When he entered office the economy was a disaster,
double digit inflation, we were demoralized, Iran was holding
us hostage, the Cold War was ongoing, Russia had invaded
Afghanistan, we had gone from Vietnam, to Watergate, to
Carter's failed presidency. His first day in office the
Iranians released the hostages because they feared Reagan, they
knew he wasn't little pussy Jimmy. By the time he left,
America's spirit was restored, we were respected around the
world again, we had signed the largest nuke deal in history,
the first that REDUCED nuclear weapons and eliminated an entire
class, inflation back to normal, interest rates back to normal,
21 mil new, good jobs in everything from construction to high
tech. Oh, and the USSR went to the ash heap of history, we
won, they lost.

Remember "Tear down this wall, Mr Gorbachev"? Which he promptly
did.

But don't confound these haters with facts. Facts just rev them
up more.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct
over Reason"

That's right. Prior to Reagan the idea of dealing with the USSR
had been containment and trying to co-exist. Reagan's idea was
simple. We win, they lose. He re-moralized it, explained to the
world why they were the evil empire and we were the shining city
on the hill. The libs were horrified at that, said he was going
to start WWIII. The results speak for themselves.

It is refreshing, once in a while, to elect a President who is on
our side.

$17k per night per secret sevice memeber and per other guests,
charged to the US federal treeasury.

He is definitely in it for himself, not us.

That amount is criminal level abuse. He should go to prison for
it.
 
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 06:30:51 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
<trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 6:36:47 AM UTC-4, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Rick C wrote:

I've been in the stores and shelves are not empty.

Really? Is it just NYC? Lots of shelves are empty. Any product that
disinfects, like bleech or wipes, and toilet paper and tissues, and
water. The meat cases are 70-90% empty. I had to get there at 7am to
get a pack of toilet paper, which was limited to 1-to-a-customer. The
clerks say that old people are making repeat visits to get more because
it's all rationed at 1 per visit.

It's like buying toilet paper in the Soviet Union, unprecedented around
here. Maybe people expecting a hurricane in Florida have experienced
this but never here before.


"Do" what???

Hoard, obviously.



I expected us to have WORKING test kits when this started
[...]
That's a far cry from having "the kits at the beginning".

That sounds inconsistent.

I can tell you NJ the stores have had big supply problems for weeks now.
Still no paper products, bleach, wipes, etc. Limited availability of
beef or no beef at all. Supermarket here was limiting what meat they
had to one package per customer per type. The few times I've been out
included right when they opened.

Weird. I bought three beautiful big beef filets yesterday. Soaked them
in terayaki and bbq'd them on the deck in the rain. I could see the
Grand Princess at anchor in the bay as I cooked. It seems to drift
around a bit, maybe anchored at one end and wafted around by the tide?

Maybe different places have different panics. I can see how panic
mentality would amplify random seeds in different places.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
 
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 06:36:40 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
<fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:

Rick C wrote:

I've been in the stores and shelves are not empty.

Really? Is it just NYC? Lots of shelves are empty. Any product that
disinfects, like bleech or wipes, and toilet paper and tissues, and
water. The meat cases are 70-90% empty. I had to get there at 7am to
get a pack of toilet paper, which was limited to 1-to-a-customer. The
clerks say that old people are making repeat visits to get more because
it's all rationed at 1 per visit.

I want to baks a blueberry-peach pie. Flour is back on the shelves
now, so we can make the crust, there are fresh blueberries, peaches
are out of season, and there were no frozen peaches at Molly Stone's;
they did have some wonderful steaks and sourdough bread.

I had to shop around for a bag of frozen peaches. A very nice lady in
line at Safeway let me go ahead of her in the checkout and buy my
little bag. We discussed pie recipes for a bit.


It's like buying toilet paper in the Soviet Union, unprecedented around
here. Maybe people expecting a hurricane in Florida have experienced
this but never here before.

Hurricanes make a run on gas and water and batteries.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"
 

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