Is Anyone in Charge of the Response to COVID-19?

[whit3rd]

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 7:40:26 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

> This worldwide corona-panic deserves serious study too.

The panic is only as wide as the world between your ears.

People get ill, even die, because of a new disease, but not because of 'panic'.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 10:50:13 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 1:55:45 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 05:58:59 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 2:12:24 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:09:47 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:25:53 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:53:00 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 12:59:12 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

snip

That's right. Prior to Reagan the idea of dealing with the USSR had been
containment and trying to co-exist. Reagan's idea was simple. We win,
they lose. He re-moralized it, explained to the world why they were the
evil empire and we were the shining city on the hill. The libs were horrified at that, said he was going to start WWIII. The results speak for themselves.

Russia is even more evil than it was under Communism? Great result.

Fuck Putin and Russia. Hundreds of millions are free in Eastern Europe
and the might of the USSR is a fraction of what it once was. We won,
they lost.

 

[Rick C]

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 3:18:19 PM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 11:10:06 AM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
torsdag den 26. marts 2020 kl. 15.40.26 UTC+1 skrev jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com:


USians don't panic in crowds either. We don't trample one another to
death. We don't riot or kill at sports events; the winners buy beer
for the losers. Maybe I have that backwards. That's a serious
statement about personal dynamics that should be studied.


nonsense, USA have had people trampled to death in panic and riots at
sport events just like every where else

Tell us about the last time we had a panic or riot and people trampled to death
at a sports event. I can't recall it ever happening in the USA.

We don't trample. We use efficient means of killing concert goers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

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[Rick C]

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 3:12:58 PM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 6:17:31 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 5:58:57 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:

You think all the ideas Reagan put forward where /his/ ideas? NaĂŻve
doesn't begin to describe that. And even then, it is missing the key
point - he may have been smart in his younger days, but he was old and
getting senile by his presidency time.

But we can agree that he was worlds above Trump. And even if we
disagree about how smart or how old and doddery Reagan was as president,
I think we can agree he was always smarter than Trump.

Reagan getting senile and the government, particularly in his second term was run by the people he brought in to work for him. They did some good stuff. It was not a bad time to be an American.

ROFL! That;s a good one! Reagan wasn't senile, he sure pounded those
commies into the dirt. He gave speeches, many interviews, did perfectly
fine. He ran circles around the likes of Trump who can't even speak.
And it's a classic bringing up senility when you libs are going to run
BIDEN! He's the one that appears to be going senile. Just listen to him.

Reagan didn't "run circles" around anyone. He was good when delivering rehearsed speeches, not so good when answering questions. That was VERY evident by his second term.

When people talk about Biden, what they are really talking about is his stutter. Yup, he has a stutter which sounds like he is pausing when having to fight it to prevent it from becoming audible. No, no senility. Just your hatred.

Trump is not senile and he is not stupid.

He's not senile, but he most certainly is very stupid and he has serious
mental problems. That he doesn't understand the need to use DPA to take
control of the supply chain for critical supplies and allocate them where
needed is the current working evidence of how stupid he is. He was up
there ranting, "Nationalize, I;m not going to nationalize, why should I
nationalize". No one has said he should nationalize anything. Stupid
is as stupid does.

I won't say his mental health is great, but I'm not qualified to determine that. I do know he is a master at corralling support from his base. He was doing exactly what he needed for support of his actions. Machiavellian.

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[Whoey Louie]

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 6:34:26 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 8:55:07 AM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:43:01 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:22:27 PM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 10:51:36 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 10:16:08 AM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 10:09:36 PM UTC-4, mpm wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:11:51 PM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:
The market will recover and people's investments will return.

Not if the company goes bankrupt. The stockholders typically get wiped
out.


Yeah, that part's not quite true.
And it depends greatly upon the type of bankruptcy.


A reorganization or restructuring writes off debt, but is done so in a manner adjudicated fair by the bankruptcy judge. Nearly all debt holders will take some sort of a haircut, and some get warrants too.


If it's a liquidation (no re-org possible), then the company is sold off and the proceeds go to the debt holders, typically with senior debt paid first, and the rest to subordinated debt (if any monies or value-assets remain).

But people get paid. Ever hear of "Pennies on the dollar"?
Occasionally, people go to prison.


I agree. The point is that with America shut down, we don't have the
time to go through a bankruptcy process for each of the companies and
find out, like Rick wants. It's that simple. Even Obama recognized
that. Today many Democrats have gone Bernie commie crazy. As further
evidence, look at the Democrats trying to queer the emergency stimulus
by trying to put carbon restriction on the airlines in it, insisting
that $30K in student loans be forgiven, etc. Totally nuts.

You are showing that you don't understand the most basic of issues regarding the impact on the economy. Going through bankruptcy won't require businesses to stop doing anything. They can continue to function the entire time.

And what happens when the suppliers have their credit lines reduced,
cut because vendors to them are unsure if their bills will be paid?

You don't know much about business. The smaller suppliers live and die on the larger customers. They give them credit because that's what it takes to get the business. It's only 30 days.

No, you don't understand what I'm talking about. As soon as there is talk
of someone going into bankruptcy, creditors throughout the supply chain
get worried and it's those that extend credit to them that can start to
cut back on credit lines and exposure. Even your Democrat buddies understand
this, they are passing the bailout. It doesn't put companies into
bankruptcy.




It's not like it's a make or break decision for anyone. Don't give them credit and they'll go elsewhere.

Sure. Good luck with that, getting new credit lines when you're business
is in the toilet. In the toilet, not just because of company A going
BANKRUPT, but also because all your business is in the crapper due to Covid.
Knowing your attitude, just let them go bankrupt, it would be pretty
stupid to extend more credit to companies in crisis. Even loons like
Pelosi and Schumer understand that.


Everyone will be hurting so there will be plenty of suppliers looking for your business.


What happens to money market funds holding any paper? What happens
to the pension funds that take a hit as the stock goes to zero?
And why do that? Oh, because you and Bernie think it's a great idea
instead of making loans. You want all the above damage to occur and
only then make the loans. REally stupid, even for you. Is that what
Obama did?

WTF are you babbling about? Yes, that is exactly what Obama did, lend money to GM and others through bankruptcy getting a piece of the company in the process. That's where I got the idea.

BS. GM was the exception, the vast majority of companies that Obama,
yes, that's right, OBAMA bailed out did not file for bankruptcy.





This is not likely to last long enough to actually cause our major businesses to go bankrupt anyway.

And you know this how? You've analyzed the cash flows?



That's why there's no need for massive aid to every company.

No one has said it will be to every company.



Tesla has already said they have enough funds to ride this out. GM is closing down many of it's plants as is Ford as they switch direction from gas vehicles to battery. In some ways this will be good for them.

That's incredibly stupid, even for you.

Don't talk to me, tell that to Tesla.

Show us where Tesla said the Covid disaster will be good for them.





Now they don't have to pay salaries and can spend their time doing engineering and design which they so desperately need to complete to complete the switch over.

Boeing may be a different story. Yes, bankruptcy is one potential result and there is no reason to bail them out without many assurances to the US taxpayers.

I think this conversation has reached an end. I hear what you are saying but I don't agree. The main difference is I am not calling you names. When you argue with DLUNU I have a hard time telling who is who because of the excessive personal insults on both sides. I usually skip reading past the first paragraph because the rest is all repetitious insults.

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Too bad, but there is only so much stupid that one can tolerate.

This will go on forever. You can't understand anything I say and keep repeating the same mistaken stuff.

Ok, you win.

Apparently so, Congress is passing the bill and even the Democrats there
don't agree with you.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 6:17:31 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 5:58:57 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:

You think all the ideas Reagan put forward where /his/ ideas? NaĂŻve
doesn't begin to describe that. And even then, it is missing the key
point - he may have been smart in his younger days, but he was old and
getting senile by his presidency time.

But we can agree that he was worlds above Trump. And even if we
disagree about how smart or how old and doddery Reagan was as president,
I think we can agree he was always smarter than Trump.

Reagan getting senile and the government, particularly in his second term was run by the people he brought in to work for him. They did some good stuff. It was not a bad time to be an American.

ROFL! That;s a good one! Reagan wasn't senile, he sure pounded those
commies into the dirt. He gave speeches, many interviews, did perfectly
fine. He ran circles around the likes of Trump who can't even speak.
And it's a classic bringing up senility when you libs are going to run
BIDEN! He's the one that appears to be going senile. Just listen to him.

Trump is not senile and he is not stupid.

He's not senile, but he most certainly is very stupid and he has serious
mental problems. That he doesn't understand the need to use DPA to take
control of the supply chain for critical supplies and allocate them where
needed is the current working evidence of how stupid he is. He was up
there ranting, "Nationalize, I;m not going to nationalize, why should I
nationalize". No one has said he should nationalize anything. Stupid
is as stupid does.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 10:14:10 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:78856a7f-5a19-4bc6-96d9-1184a6e942ae@googlegroups.com:


I know the UN didn't get the hostages released, stupid. Iran
didn't give a flying f*** about the UN.



You are a true idiot. Iran was one of the original members you
stupid fuck.

Irrelevant, stupid. I didn't say Iran was not a UN member, I said they
didn't care about the UN when it came to the hostages.

You apparently do not give a flying fuck (and you are a typing pussy
too)about facts.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 4:22:21 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 6:15:16 AM UTC-7, Whoey Louie wrote:

ROFL. That's a good one, even for you. It just so happened that the Iranians
decided out of the goodness of their hearts to end it as Reagan was about
to enter office. You libs are really something.

Well, yeah, the Iranians had no interest in keeping the hostages (they had
INTERNAL issues to work out, international-relations drama was NOT
worth fighting over).
There's no likelihood that anyone in Iran knew or cared about the fine points
of Ronald Reagan's image. How could they?

How could they? The Iranians were not stupid. They can read newspaper,
watch TV and see what is happening in the world. They knew they couldn't
pull what they were doing with Reagan and decided like robbers that here
the cop siren coming to cut their losses and get out.

The Russians knew too. When Reagan told the air traffic controllers to either
return to work of be fired, the Russians watched. When he followed through
two days later and fired them, they knew Reagan wasn't full of baloney like
Jimmy, they knew he meant what he said. And that isn't my opinion, this
was stated by a high level official in the Russian govt, years later, after
the fall of the USSR.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 11:10:06 AM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:

torsdag den 26. marts 2020 kl. 15.40.26 UTC+1 skrev jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com:


USians don't panic in crowds either. We don't trample one another to
death. We don't riot or kill at sports events; the winners buy beer
for the losers. Maybe I have that backwards. That's a serious
statement about personal dynamics that should be studied.


nonsense, USA have had people trampled to death in panic and riots at
sport events just like every where else

Tell us about the last time we had a panic or riot and people trampled to death
at a sports event. I can't recall it ever happening in the USA.

Next!

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in news:0aed44f6-770d-
42c4-8607-6558eae25311@googlegroups.com:

We don't trample. We use efficient means of killing concert goers.

I was in Cincinnati when "The Who Concert" happened. I was concert
goer age, but did not go to this one.

11 people definitely got trampled. Very efficient have thousands of
people show up for a "general seating" event, and then open only one
door in to the place.

Similarly, the Beverly Hills Supper Club fire in Northern Kentucky,
which was wrongfully blamed on bad and or mixed metal electrical
wiring, and several of the deaths were dus to trampling.

 

[bitrex]

On 3/23/2020 10:03 PM, mpm wrote:

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 7:01:29 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
Yeah, loans, but for the purpose of protecting the economy, not the banks. This time we will make sure the fat cats aren't the only ones to do well from it.


Seriously: Good luck with that.
The fat cats make the rules. (The mice are screwed.)

<https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/harvard-not-paying-all-workers-during-coronavirus-shutdown-despite-40-9b-endowment/>

Even Harvard probably gonna be asking for a bailout, "we're broke, baby"

 

[Rick C]

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 6:12:37 PM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:

On 26/03/2020 17:41, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 11:11:40 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:

About the only outstanding thing I see in Americans is their
overwhelming belief in the superiority of everything American.

Please don't paint all Americans with a Larkin brush.


I don't.

But would you not agree that a solid proportion of Americans think that
their ways are better than those of any other country? Of course I
don't mean that every American thinks America is the best in everything
- some, such as your good self, have better insight. But if you were to
take a random sampling of Americans, and ask them how they rate their
country in terms of health care, democracy, opportunities for success,
equality and fairness, law and order, education, etc., - a large
majority would put their own country at the top for nearly everything.
This is something you don't see in other countries (such surveys have
been done).

In most other aspects, Americans are pretty much like anyone else in a
modern Western democracy. (And probably much like other people from
other types of societies as well - I just don't know enough to judge.)
All the Americans I have known personally have been perfectly nice and
sensible people - but then, all the Americans I know have been people
who travelled outside their country and seen at least a little of the
rest of the world.

Unlike you, I think that Americans exhibit a healthy amount of patriotism and loyalty to their country just as most people do around the world. That is likely the single biggest reason why Britain has gone through Brexit.

Sometimes it can be overdone, others have less loyalty. But most people in most countries love their country and support it as well as believe it is the best in many ways.

Don't you?

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[David Brown]

On 26/03/2020 17:41, Rick C wrote:

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 11:11:40 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
On 26/03/2020 15:40, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 14:57:17 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 25/03/2020 14:27, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 5:58:57 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:

And I think we can also agree to leave this here.

Not when you're spreading BS.


Talk to someone who cares.

How your country ended up so divided, I can't understand. There are
just so many political fanatics that it is hard to see how you can
remain a single country. (I really hope you do, of course - civil war
is not good for anyone inside or outside the country.) People like you
are so brainwashed that you think every Republican is a genius who did
nothing but good while all Democrat politicians are the devil in
disguise. Democrat fanatics are only marginally less bad. You have no
nuance, no shades of grey - no ability to see that perhaps someone else
has a point, or that perhaps what you have heard is somewhat biased.

There are some Americans (including some voices of reason in this group)
who seem to be able to transcend this bickering and see that your
country is in deep trouble at the moment, and has to pull together to
survive. I hope they are the ones that win out in the end.


People are posting a lot of insults on Twitter (and here) but they
aren't killing one another in the streets. One thing that storms and
earthquakes and, in this case, a cold virus, do is make people
distinctively nicer to one another in public. Grocery stores are
jammed now, but you see a lot more people saying "oh, you only have a
few things, get ahead of me in line." I've been on both sides of that
lately. People are driving better too.

The most considerate driving that I've seen, almost annoyingly nice,
was when all the traffic lights were out, after a hurricane or an
earthquake.

The US has the opposite reaction to many public events from other
places. When bad things happen, people get distinctly kinder, more
helpful, more generous. My village has an email list where people are
going to silly lengths to be good to one another now. People who have
stuff are offering to give some away. One woman down the street
apologized for her little girls making noise in the street, disturbing
people working at home. I think they are cute.

Crime goes down during a public crisis here. At Mardi Gras in New
Orleans, everybody leaves home on Fat Tuesday and goes downtown to the
parades. Burglaries basically stop. The burglers are downtown too.
Same thing in earthquakes, very little crime or looting.

USians don't panic in crowds either. We don't trample one another to
death. We don't riot or kill at sports events; the winners buy beer
for the losers. Maybe I have that backwards. That's a serious
statement about personal dynamics that should be studied.

This worldwide corona-panic deserves serious study too.


I think what you mean to say is that most Americans are basically nice
people, just like most other people across the world. You really are
not outstanding in that way at all.

When Katrina hit New Orleans, many people didn't want to evacuate or
leave their homes or businesses because they were afraid of looting and
burglary. And they were right, in a sense - there was a lot of that
going on. When someone asked the Japanese how they prevent looting
after disasters (since they have a fair number of earthquakes, tidal
waves, etc.), they said "What does looting mean? We don't have that
concept here."

My impression - looking from outside - is that Americans are mostly sort
of normal people, as individuals. They are neither better nor worse
than most other countries in times of crisis.

About the only outstanding thing I see in Americans is their
overwhelming belief in the superiority of everything American.

Please don't paint all Americans with a Larkin brush.

I don't.

But would you not agree that a solid proportion of Americans think that
their ways are better than those of any other country? Of course I
don't mean that every American thinks America is the best in everything
- some, such as your good self, have better insight. But if you were to
take a random sampling of Americans, and ask them how they rate their
country in terms of health care, democracy, opportunities for success,
equality and fairness, law and order, education, etc., - a large
majority would put their own country at the top for nearly everything.
This is something you don't see in other countries (such surveys have
been done).

In most other aspects, Americans are pretty much like anyone else in a
modern Western democracy. (And probably much like other people from
other types of societies as well - I just don't know enough to judge.)
All the Americans I have known personally have been perfectly nice and
sensible people - but then, all the Americans I know have been people
who travelled outside their country and seen at least a little of the
rest of the world.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 6:16:24 AM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 10:50:13 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 1:55:45 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 05:58:59 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 2:12:24 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:09:47 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:25:53 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:53:00 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 12:59:12 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

snip

That's right. Prior to Reagan the idea of dealing with the USSR had been
containment and trying to co-exist. Reagan's idea was simple. We win,
they lose. He re-moralized it, explained to the world why they were the
evil empire and we were the shining city on the hill. The libs were horrified at that, said he was going to start WWIII. The results speak for themselves.

Russia is even more evil than it was under Communism? Great result.

Fuck Putin and Russia. Hundreds of millions are free in Eastern Europe
and the might of the USSR is a fraction of what it once was. We won,
they lost.

All true, but if you'd managed to get Russia to move to actual democratic government rather than letting it slide into the hands of criminal conspiracy that now runs the place, you'd have a lot more to boast about.

At the time there was lot of enthusiasm in right wing circles in the west for letting the free market sort out all problems of moving away from a command economy, rather neglecting the fact that free markets are prone to side into monopolies and cartels unless carefully regulated. Unsurprisingly, Russian is now dominated by monopolies and cartels who own everything, including the government. Great result.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 6:18:19 AM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 11:10:06 AM UTC-4, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
torsdag den 26. marts 2020 kl. 15.40.26 UTC+1 skrev jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com:


USians don't panic in crowds either. We don't trample one another to
death. We don't riot or kill at sports events; the winners buy beer
for the losers. Maybe I have that backwards. That's a serious
statement about personal dynamics that should be studied.

nonsense, USA have had people trampled to death in panic and riots at
sport events just like every where else

Tell us about the last time we had a panic or riot and people trampled to death at a sports event. I can't recall it ever happening in the USA.

Next!

The most recent one I can recall was in the UK

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster

I was living there at the time. Football stadiums, sporting venue and theatres are supposed to be designed to prevent this.

Judge Learned Hand's comment about "free speech not extending to yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre" dates back to when the relevant principles weren't as well known let alone compulsory.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Flyguy]

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 5:15:05 PM UTC-7, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 6:12:58 AM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 6:17:31 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 5:58:57 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:

You think all the ideas Reagan put forward where /his/ ideas? NaĂŻve
doesn't begin to describe that. And even then, it is missing the key
point - he may have been smart in his younger days, but he was old and
getting senile by his presidency time.

But we can agree that he was worlds above Trump. And even if we
disagree about how smart or how old and doddery Reagan was as president,
I think we can agree he was always smarter than Trump.

Reagan getting senile and the government, particularly in his second term was run by the people he brought in to work for him. They did some good stuff. It was not a bad time to be an American.

ROFL! That;s a good one! Reagan wasn't senile, he sure pounded those
commies into the dirt.

Reagan's speeches given when he was running for his second term, contained a significant number of speech error. A UK academic - Brian Butterworth - who had found some early markers for Alzheimers in elderly people's speech pointed out that Reagan's speech error fitted the early Alzheimer's profile.

He was certainly senile by the end of his second term, which is proably why he wasn't prosecuted for Contragate.

I doubt if he can be given much credit for the disintegration of the Russian Communist regime.

He gave speeches, many interviews, did perfectly
fine.

He'd been a movie actor, which meant he was good at reading a script. As Brian Butterworth pointed out, he wasn't as good at it during his second term as he should have been.

He ran circles around the likes of Trump who can't even speak.
And it's a classic bringing up senility when you libs are going to run
BIDEN! He's the one that appears to be going senile. Just listen to him.

Biden has been making verbal missteps all his life. No change there.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

Every time Biden opens his mouth it contains markers for Alzheimers.

 

[Flyguy]

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 9:33:51 AM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 7:16:49 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
On 25/03/2020 23:17, Rick C wrote:
On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 5:58:57 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:

You think all the ideas Reagan put forward where /his/ ideas?
NaĂŻve doesn't begin to describe that. And even then, it is missing
the key point - he may have been smart in his younger days, but he
was old and getting senile by his presidency time.

But we can agree that he was worlds above Trump. And even if we
disagree about how smart or how old and doddery Reagan was as
president, I think we can agree he was always smarter than Trump.

Reagan getting senile and the government, particularly in his second
term was run by the people he brought in to work for him. They did
some good stuff. It was not a bad time to be an American.

Trump is not senile and he is not stupid. But right now his only
real thought is to be reelected and everything he does in this crisis
is about that.

As always, everyone he has in power around him has to be a huge
supporter. That's why Fauci is in trouble. Until recently Fauci has
been giving us good advice and he tries hard to not contradict the
things Trump says, but he can't support them either. He does the
"Yes, I agree with the President.", thing and then goes on to make
completely contradictory statements.

Fauci is smart - he knows Trump's attention span is only a few seconds
long. This way he can placate Trump's narcissism first, then go on to
give the real message to anyone smart enough to listen.

Fauci is being attacked my web sites and commentators who support Trump. Trump hears that and it shapes his opinions. It seems Trump's policies are shaped by those who comment on him rather than Trump having his own opinions.


The other day when Trump referred to the "deep-state" department
Fauci couldn't quite hold it in and developed a smile/smirk which he
then covered up with his hand (some referred to as palming his face).
That and an interview where he described Trump as an intelligent man
who he has to repeat things to as many as four time for Trump to
understand... well, those two things are pretty contradictory, no?

So it appears Fauci may be on the way out, or at least pushed to the
background. He hasn't been present to a number of press conferences.
He should be the point guy for the government's efforts since he has
the expertise and is the head of a major government office.

We'll see what happens. It won't be the first time Trump has removed
one of these "top" people he said he would bring in to run his
presidency.


Indeed it would not be. It will be a sad day for your country (and
therefore the rest of the world) if he kicks out Fauci.

I'm sure whoever he is replaced by would be every bit as qualified like Pence for example.

--

Rick C.

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Do you mean like Joe Biden?

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, March 27, 2020 at 6:12:58 AM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 6:17:31 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 5:58:57 AM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:

You think all the ideas Reagan put forward where /his/ ideas? NaĂŻve
doesn't begin to describe that. And even then, it is missing the key
point - he may have been smart in his younger days, but he was old and
getting senile by his presidency time.

But we can agree that he was worlds above Trump. And even if we
disagree about how smart or how old and doddery Reagan was as president,
I think we can agree he was always smarter than Trump.

Reagan getting senile and the government, particularly in his second term was run by the people he brought in to work for him. They did some good stuff. It was not a bad time to be an American.

ROFL! That;s a good one! Reagan wasn't senile, he sure pounded those
commies into the dirt.

Reagan's speeches given when he was running for his second term, contained a significant number of speech error. A UK academic - Brian Butterworth - who had found some early markers for Alzheimers in elderly people's speech pointed out that Reagan's speech error fitted the early Alzheimer's profile..

He was certainly senile by the end of his second term, which is proably why he wasn't prosecuted for Contragate.

I doubt if he can be given much credit for the disintegration of the Russian Communist regime.

He gave speeches, many interviews, did perfectly
fine.

He'd been a movie actor, which meant he was good at reading a script. As Brian Butterworth pointed out, he wasn't as good at it during his second term as he should have been.

He ran circles around the likes of Trump who can't even speak.
And it's a classic bringing up senility when you libs are going to run
BIDEN! He's the one that appears to be going senile. Just listen to him.

Biden has been making verbal missteps all his life. No change there.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 09:38:21 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 7:40:26 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

This worldwide corona-panic deserves serious study too.

The panic is only as wide as the world between your ears.

No, panic is a social-dynamic phenomenon. It deserves more study.

People get ill, even die, because of a new disease, but not because of 'panic'.

No, they get frightened and unemployed.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

[whit3rd]

On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 5:50:18 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

> No, panic is a social-dynamic phenomenon. It deserves more study.

Oh, you mean like 'financial panic'?

What do you mean 'more' study?
Si vis pacem, para bellum: if you want peace, prepare for war

Thinking persons (other than suicidal ones) prepare for the future, and
if you want health in the future, you need to deal with plague, NOW.

It's not panic (irrational fear), it's planning. And rational response.
If you want to know how it has been studied, 'panic' is the wrong keyword,
you want 'operational research' or 'contingency' or 'resource allocation',
or 'emergency preparation' or 'logistics'.