Why do circuit breakers go up for on and down for off?...

[Peeler]

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 09:34:55 -0000, NY, the really endlessly blathering,
notorious, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered, yet again:


> I wouldn\'t describe a mains shock as \"not painful\".

I certainly would describe YOU as an obnoxious troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE,
notorious for it\'s always lengthy elaborate senile bullshit. <BG>

 

[rbowman]

On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 10:14:48 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Also, Washington Post is not responding. Did the Mozzies hit it with a
bomb?

One can only hope.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 00:29:05 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 20:39:02 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

That\'s a stupid idea, it\'s positive feedback, as acceleration causes you
to lean back. SO easy to overdo it.

That feature eliminates incompetent newbies. It\'s particularly effective
when the newbie decided a Hayabusa is a good learner\'s bike.

There is something to be said for the tiered permit system.

Deliberately making something harder so the idiots can\'t use it and the good guys have to make more effort is entirely illogical.

 

[Peeler]

On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:57:43 +0100, cretinous Carlos E.R., another brain
dead troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


> I remember reading an ancient book on building your own radio

No shit, you subnormal troll-feeding cretin and piece of shit Spaniard? <BG>

 

[Peeler]

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 09:24:14 -0000, NY, the really endlessly blathering,
notorious, troll-feeding, senile asshole, blathered, yet again:

> I was always surprised

I\'m not suprised that you spread yet more of your usual lengthy senile
bullshit, you troll-feeding senile shithead!

 

[Dean Hoffman]

On Tuesday, February 14, 2023 at 3:55:49 PM UTC-6, Don Y wrote:

A colleague sent along a copy of an article espousing a 2KW/hr/person
energy consumption rate as if it was a practical goal.

Yes, I\'m sure in some parts of the world, folks get by with
considerably *less*.

But, given that our cooling season will be starting RSN (despite
the fact that we\'re expecting ~20F overnight, this week) and
that guzzles power at an alarming rate.

I don\'t see any evidence that other parts of the country are
*considerably* more frugal/efficient, though.

www.eia.gov/consumption/residential/reports/2009/state_briefs/pdf/az.pdf
https://www.eia.gov/consumption/residential/reports/2009/state_briefs/

(Admittedly dated, no reflection on transportation)

I have the most used lights in my house on dimmers. They\'re also LED.. The amount of electricity they use is almost nothing when turned down. It\'s still more electricity than the incandescents in our old farmhouse after my dad yelled \"Turn that damn light off\".

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 08:55:14 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
Norman Wells addressing trolling senile Rodent:
\"Ah, the voice of scum speaks.\"
MID: <g4t0jtFrknaU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-02-23, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 10:14:48 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Also, Washington Post is not responding. Did the Mozzies hit it with a
bomb?

One can only hope.

I imagine their web site is hosted on Amazon\'s cloud server.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[Peeler]

On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 23:01:27 +0100, cretinous Carlos E.R., another brain
dead trolling and troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered again:


> The plate itself is the flywheel. Good ones were heavy.

Who allowed thick spicks like you in the EU in the first place, you
cretinous dumb spick? <BG>

 

[Don Y]

On 2/16/2023 9:24 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

I have the most used lights in my house on dimmers. They\'re also LED. The
amount of electricity they use is almost nothing when turned down. It\'s
still more electricity than the incandescents in our old farmhouse after my
dad yelled \"Turn that damn light off\".

We have dimmers on every switch (incl bathrooms!) that
controls a fixed lighting load (switched outlets do not have
dimmers in an abundance of caution but walk-in closets do!).

The intent is to be able to have the whole house lit *so*
dimly that folks can still make out the details of
furniture placement, etc. \"in the dark\", yet not feel
\"blinded\" when dealing with that light level fresh from
a sleep. (consider guests awakening in the middle of
the night and trying to navigate an unfamiliar house).

[At the other end (fully lit), places like the kitchen and
bathrooms are overly bright (the kitchen has a 75W equivalent
light for every 10 sq ft of floor space -- plus \"task lighting\"
on the counters. The (small) back yard is lit with six 300W
Halogens -- I\'ve not found suitable LED fixtures to replace them]

We had to replace almost all of the dimmers (IIRC, there are
22) when switching to LED as the old ones didn\'t work as
effectively with the different loads (all \"dimmable\" LEDs).

ISTR the new dimmers have a small pot that lets you set the
\"lowest light level\" attained when the main control is set to
its minimum.

But, many of the bulbs won\'t immediately light at that
level; its as if they need to soak up charge before they
will \"snap\" on.

 

[Peeler]

On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 23:05:44 +0100, cretinous Carlos E.R., another brain
dead troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


> Not a question of thinking, but of manufacturing price.

It\'s only a question of his trolling and your troll-feeding, you subnormal,
retarded spick!

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 09:31:38 +0100, Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 15:13:02 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, senile BIGMOUTH, blathered:


Never heard of chirps? It\'s a mathematical transform of an impulse,
but doesn\'t need the big peak power. Big radars do it so they don\'t
ionize the air near the antenna.

Most critters, humans included, use some form of echolocation.

Look it up. It\'s interesting.

No shit, senile blabbermouth! You, TOO, like many other senile shitheads
here, must do something about this pathological senile blathering of yours!
BTW, it\'s not interesting. It\'s ridiculous! LOL

It must be terrible to be trapped inside your head. There is so much
fun and beautiful and tasty stuff in our world, and only one lifetime
to enjoy them.

There\'s a cold front moving in and the sun is rising over the bay.
What a beautiful planet.

Learn some electronics and stop being so downer. All that anger will
kill you and make you miserable meanwhile. The first thing you need to
design is yourself.

I\'m thinking about a new product line of small boxes that use
Raspberry Pi Pico and PoE. There are some cool little PoE power supply
boards that sell for a fraction of what I could buy parts for.

Basically, buy boards and use them as components, sort of hardware
abstraction. How does that sound?

 

[Rod Speed]

On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 08:46:05 +1100, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On 18/02/2023 20:15, Carlos E.R. wrote:
«To be made to “kiss the gunner\'s daughter” is to be tied over a cannon
(the gunner\'s daughter) in order to be beaten, usually with a cat of
nine tails. The phrase dates back at least to 1785 but is probably
older.Oct 13, 2008»
Sailor Talk - \"Kissing the Gunner\'s Daughter\" and \"Sucking the ...
Old Salt Blog
https://www.oldsaltblog.com › 2008/10 › sailor-talk-kissi...
I know it because there is a novel by Ruth Rendell:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissing_the_Gunner%27s_Daughter

What was the name for the far more gruesome (and fatal) punishment in
which an offender was tied over the *mouth* of the loaded cannon which
was then fired?

Blown away from the guns. But that wasnt naval, that was the army
and was mostly done during the Indian \'mutiny\' on a large scale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowing_from_a_gun

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 09:24:14 -0000, \"NY\" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in message
newsp.10pblzyxmvhs6z@ryzen.home...
How annoying. The British fuses you could stick any in any socket, and
you could put any fusewire in each too. My house, I put in what I want.
Complete:
https://maintenance-service.co.uk/_webedit/cached-images/165-0-0-0-10000-10000-708.jpg
Without
fuses:https://flameport.com/electric_museum/old_equipment/white_wylex_reverse_switch_open.jpg
Without covers:https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qp4AAOSw3N9fNcsE/s-l300.jpg
(I have one like this, got it 2nd hand). It takes fuses or breakers, no
covers, just have to be careful inserting them. And no I never turn off
the whole bloody thing just to change one fuse.
Can\'t find a picture of the actual fuses seperate.

I was always surprised that all the fuse-wire holders in a UK fuse box were
interchangeable - there was nothing to stop you inserting a 15 A
lighting-circuit fuse in the slot for a 30 A ring-main. Everything would be
fine until someone turned on both a kettle and and electric fire on the same
ring main (thereby drawing more than 13A) and the 15 A fuse would blow.

It would have been better if the fuse holders had been designed to have
different size pins to avoid this. Of course there would still be nothing to
stop someone wiring 30 A wire into a 15 A holder, but that is (probably)
less likely than someone pulling out several fuses and then putting them
back in the wrong locations. At least the fuse holders and sockets in the
fuse box were colour-coded with domino spots which had to match.

The US screw type fuses, basically a light bulb socket, were
interchangable. Older houses around here still have them. One only
needs to keep a stock of 30 amp spares around.

 

[Scott Lurndal]

\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> writes:

On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 21:07:22 -0000, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in message
newsp.10blnal7mvhs6z@ryzen.home...
Earth and neutral are the same thing. Only two wires enter my house
from the substation.

Depends on the country.


It is not so even if \'only two wires enter the house\'.
Conventionally any metal pipes entering it provide the earth.

It can cause corrosion on the pipes. And today the pipes are made of
some plastic here.

No idea what century he\'s living in, we don\'t use pipes to provide earth,
we use a 100A cable to the fucking great big ground spike at the
substation.

No, houses here have two wires. It\'s most obvious where the feed is from
overhead wires: you typically see three wires (the three phases) going fro
pole to pole along the street, with two branching off from two of those
three phase wires, going to a house. The next house may have two wires
connected to different phases. Sometimes there are four wires along the
street, with one wire to every house connected to the same neutral wire and
the other house wire connected to one of the three phase wires.

Earth is provided locally: in older houses with metal water pipes, the
green/yellow earth wire is connected to a strap around the rising main water
pipe; in newer houses it connects to a big spike in the ground outside.

What you said doesn\'t make sense. So you receive no neutral, but live 1 and live 2?! That would mean you could get a shock off either. How monumentally insane.

Read again more carefully. Typically each house is provided 240V from one
of the three distribution phases, and the distribution transformer (12kv or 21kv -> 240v)
is center tapped to provide the neutral.

The neutral is tied to ground at the residence service entrance using
copper ground rods (two bonded rods are required in my service area).

 

[Rod Speed]

On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 09:51:24 +1100, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 08:46:05 +1100, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:

On 18/02/2023 20:15, Carlos E.R. wrote:
«To be made to “kiss the gunner\'s daughter” is to be tied over a
cannon (the gunner\'s daughter) in order to be beaten, usually with a
cat of nine tails. The phrase dates back at least to 1785 but is
probably older.Oct 13, 2008»
Sailor Talk - \"Kissing the Gunner\'s Daughter\" and \"Sucking the ...
Old Salt Blog
https://www.oldsaltblog.com › 2008/10 › sailor-talk-kissi...
I know it because there is a novel by Ruth Rendell:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissing_the_Gunner%27s_Daughter

What was the name for the far more gruesome (and fatal) punishment in
which an offender was tied over the *mouth* of the loaded cannon which
was then fired?

Blown away from the guns. But that wasnt naval, that was the army
and was mostly done during the Indian \'mutiny\' on a large scale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blowing_from_a_gun

Not feasible to do it on a naval vessel given that the cannon is rolled
out with the nozzle outside the ship before it is fired on a naval vessel.

The navy went for the other alternative, keel hauling which mostly killed
the keel hauled.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 09:39:14 +0100, Peeler <trolltrap@valid.invalid>
wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 16:52:29 -0800, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:


He was epileptic and OD\'d on one of his drugs and died.

The troll, idiot, attention whore and gay wanker you keep feeding is
SOCIOPATHIC, you brain dead troll-feeding senile shithead!

Some examples of sociopath Peter Hucker\'s (aka \"Birdbrain\") sick interaction
with his environment (neighbours, road users, relatives, etc.), as told by
the idiot himself:

\"I like to scare my passengers when I drive. I once gave a lift to a
hitchhiker who told me how the last person was a maniac and drove at 90mph.
I immediately accelerated to 110 for his 70 mile journey and he went very
quiet.\"
MID: <op.zcfxgepnjs98qf@red.lan

Birdbrain Macaw (now \"James Wilkinson\") about his neighbours:
\"I will not accept money from my neighbours for doing them a favour\"
\"My neighbour just paid me £40 to brush moss off the roof of her
porch extension. It took me 10 minutes.\"
(Courtesy of Mr Pounder)

More from Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sick sociopathic
world:
\"I once collected money for an event that got cancelled. I simply never
told the donaters that it had been.\"
MID: <op.y9o2ilpfjs98qf@red.lan

Wanker Peter Hucker, if he had children:
\"If I was a parent I\'d deliberately let my brat run amok in shops, hotels,
on the street etc, and when asked why I wasn\'t controlling it, I\'d say \"My
hands are tied, I\'m not allowed\". Since when did our children belong to the
fucking state?!\"
MID: <op.y8dhfds2js98qf@red.lan

More from Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sociopathic life:
\"I refuse to go back to Tesco after I had a very loud argument with three
managers about whether I could go in shirtless on a baking hot summer\'s
day.\"
MID: <op.y6448sq1js98qf@red.lan

More of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) strange sociopathic
world:
\"I saw someone today shovelling his pavement clean, pushing it onto the
road. I waited until he went inside, then drove over the snow fairly
quickly, splattering it back where it was.\"
MID: <op.ytywd8w9js98qf@red.lan

More from Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) abnormal sociopathic
world:
\"However I do like to make fun of people. For example, a professor once
told a secretary off for having a topless male model as the wallpaper on her
computer. So I told her he was a hypocrite, and that he had pictures of
transvestites on his (not as wallpaper, but stored on the hard disk). She
spread that around quite quickly.\"
MID: <op.y4l803yzjs98qf@red.lan

More from wanker Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) strange
sociopathic world:
\"I once found some photos of spanking porn on m\'colleague\'s computer at
work. He was a lot nicer to me on threat of grassing him off
But when another one grumbled at our secretary for having a shirtless male
model as her desktop background, I couldn\'t resist telling her about his
transgender photos. She must have been a right gossip, as quite a few
people looked at him funny for the next month or so.\"
MID: <op.y17f1ekqjs98qf@red.lan

Birdbrain Macaw (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) about his driving habits (no.2):
\"Now you see, the proper way to soak somebody is to aim for the puddle from
100 yards back, then it looks like an accident to any moronic nosy hasn\'t
got a life cyclist. Of course you must adjust your speed inconspicuously
(use gears not brakes which cause lights to come on...).
MID: <op.x92ae7qw86ebyl@red.lan

More of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) strange sociopathic
\"thinking\":
\"I class one human (not an immigrunt, a proper human) as worth the same as
any other. Of course relatives rate higher, but any two strangers are the
same, no matter what age. Unless they\'re under about 2 years old, then I
don\'t care at all. I\'d put abortion right up to 2 years after birth.\"
MID: <op.y1zxepoyjs98qf@red.lan

More of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) strange world:
\"Around here they like to run in front of cars for a laugh. For some reason
they\'re surprised when I accelerate.\"
MID: <op.yae83gth86ebyl@red.lan

More of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) strange world he\'s
living in:
\"Criminals should be tortured for the amusement of the rest of us.\"
MID: <op.ybcca2s886ebyl@red.lan

More of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) pathological \"mind\"
revealed:
\"I am actually considering crashing deliberately into one of my neighbours.
Three times he\'s stopped on the wrong side of the road, directly in front of
me, then reversed into his drive. I had to brake hard to avoid a head on
collision. Next time I\'ll glance at the camera to make sure it\'s rolling
and carry on.\"
Message-ID: <op.ycr24sly86ebyl@red.lan

More from Birdbrain\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sociopathic \"mind\":
\"Why do people get upset about getting punched on the nose? It\'s only as bad
as falling off your bike.\"
MID: <op.ymrl1ke48hfnum@red.lan

More details of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sociopathic
life:
\"Because it\'s fun. I set loads of stuff on fire when I was a kid.\"
Message-ID: <op.yqi1dwv0utghnb@red.lan

More of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) \"insights\":
\"Because punching someone really isn\'t that serious. Grow up.\"
MID: <op.yq6w4yl0utghnb@red.lan

Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sociopathic \"mind\" at work:
\"Satan is god\'s wife. Woman are evil.\"

I used to think girls were just kids with longer hair. About the age
of 12 I realized that we are lumpy and clumsy animals and women are
Goddesses.

MID: <op.ytcmvrpkjs98qf@red.lan

More details from Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sociopathic
\"mind\":
\"If I wanted you to stab me with a knife and kill me, you should not
get into trouble for it\".
\"I would kill my sister if I thought I\'d get away with it\".
\"I\'m not what most people think of as human\".
(Courtesy of Mr Pounder)

More details from Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sociopathic
\"life\":
\"I have seriously considered poisoning my father\"
(Courtesy of Mr Pounder)

You must be very unhappy. Man up and fix yourself.

 

[Max Demian]

On 16/02/2023 14:35, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 14:27:41 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:
And sports cars with knock off hubs and wire wheels where a left hand
thread is used on one side (forget which) so it doesn\'t some undone if
the cap (or whatever) rubs against something.

Funny how most cars don\'t seem to need that.

That\'s because they have several (usually four) bolts or nuts that are
usually recessed - used to be behind hub caps.

Wire wheels on sports cars are fitted onto a spline and secured with a
large \"nut thing\" with wings that you hit with a soft headed mallet;
they could easily come loose if they rub against a mud bank if the
threads didn\'t have the right chirality.

And the pressure reducers used on LPG cylinders: propane is the opposite
way to butane so you can\'t connect the wrong one.

What\'s wrong with different sized connectors?

The smaller one would have to be big enough for the purpose so the
bigger one would be too big.

Thinking you\'re tightening a gas pipe and you\'re actually undoing it is
dangerous.

The regulator isn\'t attached to a pipe; it\'s attached to a substantial
valve on the top of the cylinder.

--
Max Demian

 

[Peeler]

On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 16:05:47 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert, another troll-feeding
senile idiot, babbled:

The wheel Max describes is more like if you simply use a (stationary)
bolt as the axle for a wheel -- a lot like the training wheels on a
child\'s bike. The rotating wheel\'s friction against a (single) nut can
cause the nut to become unscrewed.

Trust me, the nut you just had to feed has been completely unscrewed for a
very long time (from birth most likely). <BG>

Some examples of sociopath Peter Hucker\'s (aka \"Birdbrain\") sick interaction
with his environment (neighbours, road users, relatives, etc.), as told by
the idiot himself:

\"I like to scare my passengers when I drive. I once gave a lift to a
hitchhiker who told me how the last person was a maniac and drove at 90mph.
I immediately accelerated to 110 for his 70 mile journey and he went very
quiet.\"
MID: <op.zcfxgepnjs98qf@red.lan>

Birdbrain Macaw (now \"James Wilkinson\") about his neighbours:
\"I will not accept money from my neighbours for doing them a favour\"
\"My neighbour just paid me £40 to brush moss off the roof of her
porch extension. It took me 10 minutes.\"
(Courtesy of Mr Pounder)

More from Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sick sociopathic
world:
\"I once collected money for an event that got cancelled. I simply never
told the donaters that it had been.\"
MID: <op.y9o2ilpfjs98qf@red.lan>

Wanker Peter Hucker, if he had children:
\"If I was a parent I\'d deliberately let my brat run amok in shops, hotels,
on the street etc, and when asked why I wasn\'t controlling it, I\'d say \"My
hands are tied, I\'m not allowed\". Since when did our children belong to the
fucking state?!\"
MID: <op.y8dhfds2js98qf@red.lan>

More from Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sociopathic life:
\"I refuse to go back to Tesco after I had a very loud argument with three
managers about whether I could go in shirtless on a baking hot summer\'s
day.\"
MID: <op.y6448sq1js98qf@red.lan>

More of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) strange sociopathic
world:
\"I saw someone today shovelling his pavement clean, pushing it onto the
road. I waited until he went inside, then drove over the snow fairly
quickly, splattering it back where it was.\"
MID: <op.ytywd8w9js98qf@red.lan>

More from Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) abnormal sociopathic
world:
\"However I do like to make fun of people. For example, a professor once
told a secretary off for having a topless male model as the wallpaper on her
computer. So I told her he was a hypocrite, and that he had pictures of
transvestites on his (not as wallpaper, but stored on the hard disk). She
spread that around quite quickly.\"
MID: <op.y4l803yzjs98qf@red.lan>

More from wanker Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) strange
sociopathic world:
\"I once found some photos of spanking porn on m\'colleague\'s computer at
work. He was a lot nicer to me on threat of grassing him off
But when another one grumbled at our secretary for having a shirtless male
model as her desktop background, I couldn\'t resist telling her about his
transgender photos. She must have been a right gossip, as quite a few
people looked at him funny for the next month or so.\"
MID: <op.y17f1ekqjs98qf@red.lan>

Birdbrain Macaw (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) about his driving habits (no.2):
\"Now you see, the proper way to soak somebody is to aim for the puddle from
100 yards back, then it looks like an accident to any moronic nosy hasn\'t
got a life cyclist. Of course you must adjust your speed inconspicuously
(use gears not brakes which cause lights to come on...).
MID: <op.x92ae7qw86ebyl@red.lan>

More of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) strange sociopathic
\"thinking\":
\"I class one human (not an immigrunt, a proper human) as worth the same as
any other. Of course relatives rate higher, but any two strangers are the
same, no matter what age. Unless they\'re under about 2 years old, then I
don\'t care at all. I\'d put abortion right up to 2 years after birth.\"
MID: <op.y1zxepoyjs98qf@red.lan>

More of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) strange world:
\"Around here they like to run in front of cars for a laugh. For some reason
they\'re surprised when I accelerate.\"
MID: <op.yae83gth86ebyl@red.lan>

More of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) strange world he\'s
living in:
\"Criminals should be tortured for the amusement of the rest of us.\"
MID: <op.ybcca2s886ebyl@red.lan>

More of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) pathological \"mind\"
revealed:
\"I am actually considering crashing deliberately into one of my neighbours.
Three times he\'s stopped on the wrong side of the road, directly in front of
me, then reversed into his drive. I had to brake hard to avoid a head on
collision. Next time I\'ll glance at the camera to make sure it\'s rolling
and carry on.\"
Message-ID: <op.ycr24sly86ebyl@red.lan>

More from Birdbrain\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sociopathic \"mind\":
\"Why do people get upset about getting punched on the nose? It\'s only as bad
as falling off your bike.\"
MID: <op.ymrl1ke48hfnum@red.lan>

More details of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sociopathic
life:
\"Because it\'s fun. I set loads of stuff on fire when I was a kid.\"
Message-ID: <op.yqi1dwv0utghnb@red.lan>

More of Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) \"insights\":
\"Because punching someone really isn\'t that serious. Grow up.\"
MID: <op.yq6w4yl0utghnb@red.lan>

Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sociopathic \"mind\" at work:
\"Satan is god\'s wife. Woman are evil.\"
MID: <op.ytcmvrpkjs98qf@red.lan>

More details from Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sociopathic
\"mind\":
\"If I wanted you to stab me with a knife and kill me, you should not
get into trouble for it\".
\"I would kill my sister if I thought I\'d get away with it\".
\"I\'m not what most people think of as human\".
(Courtesy of Mr Pounder)

More details from Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"James Wilkinson\" LOL) sociopathic
\"life\":
\"I have seriously considered poisoning my father\"
(Courtesy of Mr Pounder)

 

[SteveW]

On 18/02/2023 20:10, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2023-02-18 14:09, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 18/02/2023 12:37, Max Demian wrote:
On 17/02/2023 21:04, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2023 16:57:19 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 15/02/2023 14:48, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Mind you the whole idea of metal wheels on metal tracks is crazy.
If I
drive my car with bald tyres, I\'m breaking the law.

Works though; provided there are no \"leaves on the line\".

(Something to with the friction between similar metals I think.)

There\'s fuck all friction, which is why they want the cars to wait
for the train at a level crossing, and not the other way round.  And
why the new tunnel the Germans are building couldn\'t go right
underground and had to be installed on the bottom of the ocean,
because the pathetic toy trains couldn\'t handle the incline.  This
is the 21st century, we have cars.  Public transport is for chavs.

If there were no friction between train wheels and track acceleration
and braking wouldn\'t happen.

The reason railway tracks are so level is so that the engines can
have the minimum power to pull the train. Very steep inclines would
require extra locomotives to be put on to get up the hills.

Steam locos were not rated in horsepower, but \'tractive effort\' . How
many tons of pull they could generate before the wheels slipped.

That\'s why they had a lot of driving wheels - at least four, generally
6   and up to 8.

I suppose this assumes that the tracks do not bend, vertically or
horizontally, or some of the wheels could loose pressure, as there are
no springs on the loco wheels (but the wagons do have them, so there
must be imperfections on the tracks).

Steam locos certainly did have springs. The axles passed through
bearings that were guided in hornblocks fixed to the locomotive frames.
In some cases the springs were a leaf spring and in others, pairs of
coil springs.

They might be visible from the outside:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3b/94/80/3b948008d40f4205006ad794cc543053.jpg

or hidden behind the wheels:

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/suspension-old-soviet-steam-locomotive-260nw-2069405948.jpg