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rbowman
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 04:05:56 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
Gotta give the Asians their chance.
Gotta give the Asians their chance.
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rbowman
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On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 19:11:56 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
http://www.crimeahistory.org/population-of-crimea/
\"The same census shows that Russians comprised 58.32% of the population,
Ukrainians 24.32%, Crimean Tartars 12.1%, Byelorussians 1.4%, Tartars
0.54%, Armenians 0.43%, Jews 0.22%, Greeks 0.15%. Few in number but still
visible in their culture are Karaites and Kymchaks. About 77% of Crimeans
claim Russian as their native language.\"
The Ukrainians are outlawing the Russian language, burning books by
Russian authors, and attacking the Russian Orthodox church. That 58.32%
would have to be crazy to want to be under Zelensky\'s thumb.
Histrorically te Crimea was perfectly happy to be part of anybody who
didnt murder them. Today the best bet is Ukraine
http://www.crimeahistory.org/population-of-crimea/
\"The same census shows that Russians comprised 58.32% of the population,
Ukrainians 24.32%, Crimean Tartars 12.1%, Byelorussians 1.4%, Tartars
0.54%, Armenians 0.43%, Jews 0.22%, Greeks 0.15%. Few in number but still
visible in their culture are Karaites and Kymchaks. About 77% of Crimeans
claim Russian as their native language.\"
The Ukrainians are outlawing the Russian language, burning books by
Russian authors, and attacking the Russian Orthodox church. That 58.32%
would have to be crazy to want to be under Zelensky\'s thumb.
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Rod Speed
Guest
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 11:04:16 +1000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
They had no choice about that. It was never going to be possible to stop
that.
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 03:44:47 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
Armys in spades back when mercenarys were the main source of troops.
In \'69 the USMC had training platoons where Hispanics were taught
marksmanship, field craft, and enough English to get by.
Same with the Germans with so many Hungarians,
Romanians etc involved with them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Waffen-SS_divisions
To say nothing of Swedes, Danes, Norwegians, French, Dutch, Ukrainians,
and even Russians. Many Europeans had seen the Red Terror in Russia,
Hungary, and other countries and wanted no part of it.
Of course Roosevelt and Churchill were fine with supporting Stalin and
dooming eastern Europe to decades of oppression.
They had no choice about that. It was never going to be possible to stop
that.
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Rod Speed
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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
The Normans invaded Ireland LONG before that.
Rod Speed wrote
Yes, the poms comprehensively fucked over Scotland, Ireland and Wales,
but when they did that, they didnt have a common language.
Presumably many of the United Irishmen in 1798 spoke English;
The Normans invaded Ireland LONG before that.
Wolfe Tone
certainly did. The Brits put that attempt for freedom down rather harshly
and then were wily enough to drive a wedge between Catholics and
Protestants.
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Rod Speed
Guest
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
Different matter entirely.
Rod Speed wrote
Crimea was totally emptied of its population once under Stalin,
BULLSHIT.
Well, Joe did try his best to completely empty it of Tatars and replace
them with ethnic Russians...
Different matter entirely.
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Rod Speed
Guest
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 12:04:21 +1000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
We\'ll see if Putin\'s invasion of the Ukraine fails
as badly as his attempt at invading Georgia did.
Don\'t need rainbows or unicorns. Russia couldnt
even manage to keep what it had in Afghanistan.
They would be allowed to fuck off back where they came
from just like those who moved into the Baltic countrys were.
Nope, nothing like.
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:55:43 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On 18 Apr 2023 16:05:40 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 12:41:09 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Crimea was totally emptied of its population once under Stalin, then
again under Putin.
It is Russia\'s best access to the Mediterranean. which is why they
wanted it., Nothing to do with fake \'ethnic Russians\'
In the case of the Crimea in a perfect world it would be given back to
the Tatars.
Or have some honest elections and let the residents decide. Honest
elections in Ukraine _and_ Russia.
As if.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Crimea_(1991%E2%80%932014)
I think the residents have decided several times. Independence would be
their preference, with Russia as a second choice.
At this point there is no going back.
We\'ll see if Putin\'s invasion of the Ukraine fails
as badly as his attempt at invading Georgia did.
If in some rainbow and unicorn world
Ukraine regained control of the Don Basin and Crimea,
Don\'t need rainbows or unicorns. Russia couldnt
even manage to keep what it had in Afghanistan.
how do you think
ethnic Russians would be treated?
They would be allowed to fuck off back where they came
from just like those who moved into the Baltic countrys were.
Something like the way the Soviets
treated ethnic Germans on their way to Berlin?
Nope, nothing like.
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Rod Speed
Guest
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 12:11:04 +1000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
Bullshit they are.
Bullshit they are.
But most of them have moved there from Russia and
would be free to fuck off back where they came from.
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 19:11:56 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Histrorically te Crimea was perfectly happy to be part of anybody who
didnt murder them. Today the best bet is Ukraine
http://www.crimeahistory.org/population-of-crimea/
\"The same census shows that Russians comprised 58.32% of the population,
Ukrainians 24.32%, Crimean Tartars 12.1%, Byelorussians 1.4%, Tartars
0.54%, Armenians 0.43%, Jews 0.22%, Greeks 0.15%. Few in number but still
visible in their culture are Karaites and Kymchaks. About 77% of Crimeans
claim Russian as their native language.\"
The Ukrainians are outlawing the Russian language,
Bullshit they are.
burning books by
Russian authors,
Bullshit they are.
and attacking the Russian Orthodox church. That 58.32%
would have to be crazy to want to be under Zelensky\'s thumb.
But most of them have moved there from Russia and
would be free to fuck off back where they came from.
T
The Natural Philosopher
Guest
On 19/04/2023 02:04, rbowman wrote:
Not Churchill. He wanted to carry on the war and drive the Russians out
of Europe, Roosevelt overruled him, and left Russia a world power and
pushed Britain into decline.
He spent the next decade trying to wake the Americans up. Until NATO was
finally created.
--
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making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.â
Thomas Sowell
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 03:44:47 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
Armys in spades back when mercenarys were the main source of troops.
In \'69 the USMC had training platoons where Hispanics were taught
marksmanship, field craft, and enough English to get by.
Same with the Germans with so many Hungarians,
Romanians etc involved with them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Waffen-SS_divisions
To say nothing of Swedes, Danes, Norwegians, French, Dutch, Ukrainians,
and even Russians. Many Europeans had seen the Red Terror in Russia,
Hungary, and other countries and wanted no part of it.
Of course Roosevelt and Churchill were fine with supporting Stalin and
dooming eastern Europe to decades of oppression.
Not Churchill. He wanted to carry on the war and drive the Russians out
of Europe, Roosevelt overruled him, and left Russia a world power and
pushed Britain into decline.
He spent the next decade trying to wake the Americans up. Until NATO was
finally created.
--
âIt is hard to imagine a more stupid decision or more dangerous way of
making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people
who pay no price for being wrong.â
Thomas Sowell
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The Natural Philosopher
Guest
On 19/04/2023 02:13, rbowman wrote:
Rod Speed is very...er...ignorant and opinionated.
--
âThose who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit
atrocities.â
â Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de
Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de
M. de Voltaire
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 03:13:05 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
Crimea was totally emptied of its population once under Stalin,
BULLSHIT.
Well, Joe did try his best to completely empty it of Tatars and replace
them with ethnic Russians...
Rod Speed is very...er...ignorant and opinionated.
--
âThose who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit
atrocities.â
â Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de
Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de
M. de Voltaire
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The Natural Philosopher
Guest
On 19/04/2023 03:04, rbowman wrote:
No. Not with the eyes of the world on them.
Ukraine has no history of ethnic cleansing. Russia has. So has Germany.
I suggest you keep schtumm until you have learnt that Russian propaganda
is not the reality you think it is.
We should have let the Nazis smash Russia and then smashed the Nazis.
Not a penny to pick between them. Both genocidal thugs run by maniacal
psychopaths, both intent on establishing European Empires, no matter
what their slave countries thought.
You have no idea, mate, what the former USSR countries think about Russia.
I visited the Czech Republic shortly after the Wall came down. Image a
Tannoy speaker on every lampost so that the people could not escape the
government propaganda, ever.
East Germany on a warm afternoon. Nobody on the streets except a drunk.
No. No one wants to be part of Russia. No one. Even its Oligarchs have
vanished into obscurity. 2 million of its youngest and brightest have
fled the country.
Half a million are dead or maimed for life.
The rest are told that Britain has to eat squirrels because Russian
sanctions have destroyed its economy.
Even Russians only support the Kremlin because it\'s imprisonment or
worse if you dont.
Wake up and smell the coffee. There are better places and there are
worse places to live, and anywhere run by Russia is one of the worst.
--
âThose who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit
atrocities.â
â Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de
Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de
M. de Voltaire
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:55:43 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On 18 Apr 2023 16:05:40 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 12:41:09 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Crimea was totally emptied of its population once under Stalin, then
again under Putin.
It is Russia\'s best access to the Mediterranean. which is why they
wanted it., Nothing to do with fake \'ethnic Russians\'
In the case of the Crimea in a perfect world it would be given back to
the Tatars.
Or have some honest elections and let the residents decide. Honest
elections in Ukraine _and_ Russia.
As if.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Crimea_(1991%E2%80%932014)
I think the residents have decided several times. Independence would be
their preference, with Russia as a second choice.
At this point there is no going back. If in some rainbow and unicorn world
Ukraine regained control of the Don Basin and Crimea, how do you think
ethnic Russians would be treated? Something like the way the Soviets
treated ethnic Germans on their way to Berlin?
No. Not with the eyes of the world on them.
Ukraine has no history of ethnic cleansing. Russia has. So has Germany.
I suggest you keep schtumm until you have learnt that Russian propaganda
is not the reality you think it is.
We should have let the Nazis smash Russia and then smashed the Nazis.
Not a penny to pick between them. Both genocidal thugs run by maniacal
psychopaths, both intent on establishing European Empires, no matter
what their slave countries thought.
You have no idea, mate, what the former USSR countries think about Russia.
I visited the Czech Republic shortly after the Wall came down. Image a
Tannoy speaker on every lampost so that the people could not escape the
government propaganda, ever.
East Germany on a warm afternoon. Nobody on the streets except a drunk.
No. No one wants to be part of Russia. No one. Even its Oligarchs have
vanished into obscurity. 2 million of its youngest and brightest have
fled the country.
Half a million are dead or maimed for life.
The rest are told that Britain has to eat squirrels because Russian
sanctions have destroyed its economy.
Even Russians only support the Kremlin because it\'s imprisonment or
worse if you dont.
Wake up and smell the coffee. There are better places and there are
worse places to live, and anywhere run by Russia is one of the worst.
--
âThose who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit
atrocities.â
â Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de
Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de
M. de Voltaire
T
The Natural Philosopher
Guest
On 19/04/2023 03:11, rbowman wrote:
I t9ld you not to beleive Russian propaganda.
The reason there are so many Russians now is that they drove the
Ukrainians out post 2014 and made huge incentives for Russians to move
there.
They have mostly gone back to Russia now.
--
\"An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out
only in others...â
Tom Wolfe
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 19:11:56 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Histrorically te Crimea was perfectly happy to be part of anybody who
didnt murder them. Today the best bet is Ukraine
http://www.crimeahistory.org/population-of-crimea/
\"The same census shows that Russians comprised 58.32% of the population,
Ukrainians 24.32%, Crimean Tartars 12.1%, Byelorussians 1.4%, Tartars
0.54%, Armenians 0.43%, Jews 0.22%, Greeks 0.15%. Few in number but still
visible in their culture are Karaites and Kymchaks. About 77% of Crimeans
claim Russian as their native language.\"
The Ukrainians are outlawing the Russian language, burning books by
Russian authors, and attacking the Russian Orthodox church. That 58.32%
would have to be crazy to want to be under Zelensky\'s thumb.
I t9ld you not to beleive Russian propaganda.
The reason there are so many Russians now is that they drove the
Ukrainians out post 2014 and made huge incentives for Russians to move
there.
They have mostly gone back to Russia now.
--
\"An intellectual is a person knowledgeable in one field who speaks out
only in others...â
Tom Wolfe
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Rod Speed
Guest
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 15:47:21 +1000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Says the clown that proclaimed that if the
UK even dared to consider Brexit, it would
be Leopard tanks thru the Chunnel in hours.
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 19/04/2023 02:13, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 03:13:05 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
Crimea was totally emptied of its population once under Stalin,
BULLSHIT.
Well, Joe did try his best to completely empty it of Tatars and replace
them with ethnic Russians...
Rod Speed is very...er...ignorant and opinionated.
Says the clown that proclaimed that if the
UK even dared to consider Brexit, it would
be Leopard tanks thru the Chunnel in hours.
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Peeler
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On 19 Apr 2023 02:04:21 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
Will you keep your stinking senile shit out of these newsgroups, you
stinking bigmouthed trolling senile Yankeetard!!!
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Yet another thrilling account from the resident senile superhero\'s senile
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\"I went to a Driveby Truckers concert at a local venue and they made me
leave my knife in the car. Never went back. Come to think of it the Truckers
had a Black Lives Matter banner. Never bought any of their music again
either.\"
MID: <k84ip9Fesb1U1@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Crimea_(1991%E2%80%932014)
I think the residents have decided several times. Independence would be
their preference, with Russia as a second choice.
At this point there is no going back. If in some rainbow and unicorn world
Ukraine regained control of the Don Basin and Crimea, how do you think
ethnic Russians would be treated? Something like the way the Soviets
treated ethnic Germans on their way to Berlin?
Will you keep your stinking senile shit out of these newsgroups, you
stinking bigmouthed trolling senile Yankeetard!!!
--
Yet another thrilling account from the resident senile superhero\'s senile
life:
\"I went to a Driveby Truckers concert at a local venue and they made me
leave my knife in the car. Never went back. Come to think of it the Truckers
had a Black Lives Matter banner. Never bought any of their music again
either.\"
MID: <k84ip9Fesb1U1@mid.individual.net>
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Peeler
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 13:45:31 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>
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Kerr-Mudd,John addressing the auto-contradicting senile cretin:
\"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)\"
MID: <XnsA97071CF43E3Fadmin127001@85.214.115.223>
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>
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Kerr-Mudd,John addressing the auto-contradicting senile cretin:
\"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)\"
MID: <XnsA97071CF43E3Fadmin127001@85.214.115.223>
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Peeler
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On 19 Apr 2023 02:06:06 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> Gotta give the Asians their chance.
Someone gotta give you a punch on your abnormal big mouth, Trumper!
--
More of the senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic senile blather:
\"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn\'t do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
\'We keep God\'s time in Virginia.\'
I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while.\"
MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1@dont-email.me>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
> Gotta give the Asians their chance.
Someone gotta give you a punch on your abnormal big mouth, Trumper!
--
More of the senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic senile blather:
\"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn\'t do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
\'We keep God\'s time in Virginia.\'
I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while.\"
MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1@dont-email.me>
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Peeler
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On 19 Apr 2023 02:11:04 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
Just what kind of a sick trolling arsehole and Trumptard are you,
lowbrowwoman?
--
More typical idiotic senile gossip by lowbrowwoman:
\"It\'s been years since I\'ve been in a fast food burger joint but I used
to like Wendy\'s because they had a salad bar and baked potatoes.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
http://www.crimeahistory.org/population-of-crimea/
\"The same census shows that Russians comprised 58.32% of the population,
Ukrainians 24.32%, Crimean Tartars 12.1%, Byelorussians 1.4%, Tartars
0.54%, Armenians 0.43%, Jews 0.22%, Greeks 0.15%. Few in number but still
visible in their culture are Karaites and Kymchaks. About 77% of Crimeans
claim Russian as their native language.\"
The Ukrainians are outlawing the Russian language, burning books by
Russian authors, and attacking the Russian Orthodox church. That 58.32%
would have to be crazy to want to be under Zelensky\'s thumb.
Just what kind of a sick trolling arsehole and Trumptard are you,
lowbrowwoman?
--
More typical idiotic senile gossip by lowbrowwoman:
\"It\'s been years since I\'ve been in a fast food burger joint but I used
to like Wendy\'s because they had a salad bar and baked potatoes.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>
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Peeler
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 13:48:53 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>
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R Souls addressing the trolling senile Australian cretin:
\"Your opinions are unwelcome and worthless. Now fuck off.\"
MID: <urs8jh59laqeeb0seg1erij61m383reog5@4ax.com>
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>
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R Souls addressing the trolling senile Australian cretin:
\"Your opinions are unwelcome and worthless. Now fuck off.\"
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Peeler
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On 19 Apr 2023 01:13:33 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
....says the pathological senile gossip and devoted Trumper of course! LMAO
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More of the pathological senile gossip\'s sick shit squeezed out of his sick
head:
\"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I\'ve never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I\'ve had chicken that tasted like fish. I don\'t think I
want to know what they were feeding it.\"
MID: <k44t5lFl1k3U4@mid.individual.net>
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:
Well, Joe did try his best to completely empty it of Tatars and replace
them with ethnic Russians...
....says the pathological senile gossip and devoted Trumper of course! LMAO
--
More of the pathological senile gossip\'s sick shit squeezed out of his sick
head:
\"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I\'ve never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I\'ve had chicken that tasted like fish. I don\'t think I
want to know what they were feeding it.\"
MID: <k44t5lFl1k3U4@mid.individual.net>
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Peeler
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\"Who or What is Rod Speed?
Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing \"the big, hard
man\" on the InterNet.\"
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/rod-speed-faq.2973853/
--
Tim+ about trolling Rodent Speed:
He is by far the most persistent troll who seems to be able to get under the
skin of folk who really should know better. Since when did arguing with a
troll ever achieve anything (beyond giving the troll pleasure)?
MID: <1421057667.659518815.743467.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>
Rod Speed is an entirely modern phenomenon. Essentially, Rod Speed
is an insecure and worthless individual who has discovered he can
enhance his own self-esteem in his own eyes by playing \"the big, hard
man\" on the InterNet.\"
https://www.pcreview.co.uk/threads/rod-speed-faq.2973853/
--
Tim+ about trolling Rodent Speed:
He is by far the most persistent troll who seems to be able to get under the
skin of folk who really should know better. Since when did arguing with a
troll ever achieve anything (beyond giving the troll pleasure)?
MID: <1421057667.659518815.743467.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>
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Peeler
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 16:28:36 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>
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Website (from 2007) dedicated to the 89-year-old senile Australian
cretin\'s pathological trolling:
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Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>
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cretin\'s pathological trolling:
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