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On 4/17/2023 9:24 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 14:19:59 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 17/04/2023 10:41, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/2023 19:31, Ed P wrote:

Amazing how many people in recent years never travelled more than a
few miles from home.

It is the new Green Future.

Yeah. the \"fifteen minute city\". So everything you need is no more than
a mile from where you live. No chance.

The rich greenies want the rabble to live in tiny apartments in dense
clusters, not have cars, and walk everywhere in architected
landscapes.

And they want the poor people of the world to stay poor.

LOL!
 
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 18:49:51 +1000, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk>
wrote:

On 08/03/2023 17:36, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 10:19:48 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-03-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:23:13 +0000, NY wrote:


OK, so some British-English spellings have mutated over the years:
few
people uses \"gaol\" instead of \"jail\", and \"disk\" is becoming common
as
an alternative to \"disc\" - and not just in computing. Of course CD is
\"compact disc\" with a C, so British spelling rules there ;-)

Gaol always threw me as in \'The Ballad of Reading Gaol\'. I suppose
it\'s in
line with Gerald and so forth. I\'m never sure about disk and tend to
alternate. \'Ax\' is another one. This newsreader flags \'axe\' but I
tend to
favor that spelling.

The one difference that works the opposite way round is the
pronunciation of \"herb\". British pronounces the H whereas American
often
omits the H sound \"erb\" as if it were French.

I\'ll go with herb. \'Erb\' sounds affected to me.

Herb sounds affected to me.
It\'s a guy name.

I wonder why Americans (it seems to me anyway) pronounce the H in the
the name Herb, but not in the foodstuffs?

Poms do too with the word honour.
 
On 17/04/2023 10:14, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-04-17, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:
On 08/03/2023 17:36, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 10:19:48 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-03-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:23:13 +0000, NY wrote:


OK, so some British-English spellings have mutated over the years: few
people uses \"gaol\" instead of \"jail\", and \"disk\" is becoming common as
an alternative to \"disc\" - and not just in computing. Of course CD is
\"compact disc\" with a C, so British spelling rules there ;-)

Gaol always threw me as in \'The Ballad of Reading Gaol\'. I suppose it\'s in
line with Gerald and so forth. I\'m never sure about disk and tend to
alternate. \'Ax\' is another one. This newsreader flags \'axe\' but I tend to
favor that spelling.


The one difference that works the opposite way round is the
pronunciation of \"herb\". British pronounces the H whereas American often
omits the H sound \"erb\" as if it were French.

I\'ll go with herb. \'Erb\' sounds affected to me.

Herb sounds affected to me.

It\'s a guy name.

I wonder why Americans (it seems to me anyway) pronounce the H in the
the name Herb, but not in the foodstuffs?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/special-shows/the-mystery-hour/words/why-do-americans-say-erb-not-herb-133028

And:

\"Apparently the English used to drop the H sound as well, but in the
19th century they brought it back. By then America had been an
independent country for many years so we kept the dropped-H
pronunciation.\"

I kind of doubt the latter, but I totally believe everything on the WWW.

I knew why they dropped the H, but still don\'t know why the fail to drop
it on the man\'s name.
 
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 18:05:21 +0100, SteveW wrote:

On 17/04/2023 10:14, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-04-17, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:
On 08/03/2023 17:36, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 10:19:48 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-03-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:23:13 +0000, NY wrote:


OK, so some British-English spellings have mutated over the years:
few people uses \"gaol\" instead of \"jail\", and \"disk\" is becoming
common as an alternative to \"disc\" - and not just in computing. Of
course CD is \"compact disc\" with a C, so British spelling rules
there ;-)

Gaol always threw me as in \'The Ballad of Reading Gaol\'. I suppose
it\'s in line with Gerald and so forth. I\'m never sure about disk
and tend to alternate. \'Ax\' is another one. This newsreader flags
\'axe\' but I tend to favor that spelling.


The one difference that works the opposite way round is the
pronunciation of \"herb\". British pronounces the H whereas American
often omits the H sound \"erb\" as if it were French.

I\'ll go with herb. \'Erb\' sounds affected to me.

Herb sounds affected to me.

It\'s a guy name.

I wonder why Americans (it seems to me anyway) pronounce the H in the
the name Herb, but not in the foodstuffs?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/special-shows/the-mystery-hour/words/why-
do-americans-say-erb-not-herb-133028

And:

\"Apparently the English used to drop the H sound as well, but in the
19th century they brought it back. By then America had been an
independent country for many years so we kept the dropped-H
pronunciation.\"

I kind of doubt the latter, but I totally believe everything on the
WWW.

I knew why they dropped the H, but still don\'t know why the fail to drop
it on the man\'s name.

They copied the french who cannot pronounce aich, businesses thought it
sounded posh. It has now extended to \'istoric\'
 
On 2023-04-17, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:
On 17/04/2023 10:14, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-04-17, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:
On 08/03/2023 17:36, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 10:19:48 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-03-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:23:13 +0000, NY wrote:


OK, so some British-English spellings have mutated over the years: few
people uses \"gaol\" instead of \"jail\", and \"disk\" is becoming common as
an alternative to \"disc\" - and not just in computing. Of course CD is
\"compact disc\" with a C, so British spelling rules there ;-)

Gaol always threw me as in \'The Ballad of Reading Gaol\'. I suppose it\'s in
line with Gerald and so forth. I\'m never sure about disk and tend to
alternate. \'Ax\' is another one. This newsreader flags \'axe\' but I tend to
favor that spelling.


The one difference that works the opposite way round is the
pronunciation of \"herb\". British pronounces the H whereas American often
omits the H sound \"erb\" as if it were French.

I\'ll go with herb. \'Erb\' sounds affected to me.

Herb sounds affected to me.

It\'s a guy name.

I wonder why Americans (it seems to me anyway) pronounce the H in the
the name Herb, but not in the foodstuffs?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/special-shows/the-mystery-hour/words/why-do-americans-say-erb-not-herb-133028

And:

\"Apparently the English used to drop the H sound as well, but in the
19th century they brought it back. By then America had been an
independent country for many years so we kept the dropped-H
pronunciation.\"

I kind of doubt the latter, but I totally believe everything on the WWW.

I knew why they dropped the H, but still don\'t know why the fail to drop
it on the man\'s name.

Because we got the man\'s name from Old German rather than French.

--
Cindy Hamilton
 
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 09:24:57 -0700
John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 14:19:59 +0100, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 17/04/2023 10:41, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 16/04/2023 19:31, Ed P wrote:

Amazing how many people in recent years never travelled more than
a few miles from home.

It is the new Green Future.

Yeah. the \"fifteen minute city\". So everything you need is no more
than a mile from where you live. No chance.

The rich greenies want the rabble to live in tiny apartments in dense
clusters, not have cars, and walk everywhere in architected
landscapes.

And they want the poor people of the world to stay poor.

It proved impractical to bring the third world up to the standard of
living of the developed countries, so....

--
Joe
 
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 09:21:39 -0700, John Larkin wrote:


I grew up in New Orleans. When I reached The Age Of Reason (32 in my
case) I packed my MG Midget and drove to California.

Traveling light, were you? Come to think of it, I was driving a Sprite
when I left for greener pastures. The people at my new place of employment
gave me a hard time. \'What are you going to do in the winter?\' My answer
was a Lincoln Continental. When I moved to yet another pasture the Lincoln
towed the Sprite nicely. I doubt the Lincoln even noticed the passenger.
 
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 08:38:23 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Some people, even kids, can switch accents at will. Actors do that a lot
too.

It\'s disconcerting when Kelly Ryan from Yellowstone or Charlie Hunnam from
Sons of Anarchy switch back to their native accent for interviews. Brit
actors must work cheap; there are a lot of them playing US characters
lately.
 
On 17 Apr 2023 20:55:50 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> It\'s disconcerting when Kelly Ryan from Yellowstone

It is, isn\'t it, gossip girl? <snicker>

--
Yet another thrilling story from the resident senile gossip\'s thrilling
life:
\"Around here you have to be careful to lock your car toward the end of
summer or somebody will leave a grocery sack full of zucchini in it.\"
 
On 17 Apr 2023 20:49:00 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


Traveling light, were you? Come to think of it, I was driving a Sprite
when I left for greener pastures. The people at my new place of employment
gave me a hard time. \'What are you going to do in the winter?\' My answer
was a Lincoln Continental. When I moved to yet another pasture the Lincoln
towed the Sprite nicely. I doubt the Lincoln even noticed the passenger.

What a BLITHERING asshole!!!! ROTFLOL

--
Yet another thrilling account from the resident senile superhero\'s senile
life:
\"I went to a Driveby Truckers concert at a local venue and they made me
leave my knife in the car. Never went back. Come to think of it the Truckers
had a Black Lives Matter banner. Never bought any of their music again
either.\"
MID: <k84ip9Fesb1U1@mid.individual.net>
 
On 17 Apr 2023 20:55:50 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 08:38:23 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Some people, even kids, can switch accents at will. Actors do that a lot
too.

It\'s disconcerting when Kelly Ryan from Yellowstone or Charlie Hunnam from
Sons of Anarchy switch back to their native accent for interviews. Brit
actors must work cheap; there are a lot of them playing US characters
lately.

The Beatles did a lot of songs in American.
 
On 17 Apr 2023 20:49:00 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 09:21:39 -0700, John Larkin wrote:


I grew up in New Orleans. When I reached The Age Of Reason (32 in my
case) I packed my MG Midget and drove to California.

Traveling light, were you? Come to think of it, I was driving a Sprite
when I left for greener pastures. The people at my new place of employment
gave me a hard time. \'What are you going to do in the winter?\' My answer
was a Lincoln Continental. When I moved to yet another pasture the Lincoln
towed the Sprite nicely. I doubt the Lincoln even noticed the passenger.

As I drove cross country, it started pulling harder and harder to the
right. Some cheap stamped part of the suspension was tearing. I might
not have emerged from the Grand Canyon. The shop in Fremont CA was
amazed that I was alive. They couldn\'t get a new part so they hammered
and welded the torn one.
 
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 12:36:20 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 02:29:22 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 05:23:33 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 01:53:16 +1000, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 11:12:49 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 02:53:59 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 20:34:04 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 10:19:48 -0000, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-03-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:23:13 +0000, NY wrote:


OK, so some British-English spellings have mutated over the
years:
few people uses \"gaol\" instead of \"jail\", and \"disk\" is becoming
common as an alternative to \"disc\" - and not just in computing.
Of
course CD is \"compact disc\" with a C, so British spelling rules
there
;-)

Gaol always threw me as in \'The Ballad of Reading Gaol\'. I suppose
it\'s in line with Gerald and so forth. I\'m never sure about disk
and
tend to alternate. \'Ax\' is another one. This newsreader flags
\'axe\'
but I tend to favor that spelling.


The one difference that works the opposite way round is the
pronunciation of \"herb\". British pronounces the H whereas
American
often omits the H sound \"erb\" as if it were French.

I\'ll go with herb. \'Erb\' sounds affected to me.

Herb sounds affected to me.

Not sure what you mean. Is that like \"affection\"?

Putting on airs, like some Liverpool yob trying to use RP.

I can\'t stand the Liverpooooooooool accent. Where the ooooo is 4
octaves higher than any man should be able to achieve.

Strange that a tiny place like England should have so many distinct
accents.

Much worse in Italy, it isnt just accents there, its entire dialects
which are completely unintelligible to other Italians.

When humans got intelligent and invented weapons, we became the top
preditor.

Yes.

So we developed tribes so we could fight other tribes for
territory to hunt in.

Nope, there were always tribes, even with the higher
apes and monkey and almost all other animal species.

Language and accents define tribes.

That utterly mangles the real story.

So tell us the real story.

It\'s interesting that Hitler invaded countries to protect their
German-speaking minorities. And Putin invaded Ukraine to protect its
Russian speakers. That\'s a recurring pattern, language defining
tribes.
 
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 19:43:26 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

It\'s interesting that Hitler invaded countries to protect their
German-speaking minorities. And Putin invaded Ukraine to protect its
Russian speakers. That\'s a recurring pattern, language defining tribes.

The Ukraine and Russia would be hard to sort out genetically but not
Germans and Slavs for the most part. I speak English but 23andMe pegs me
as 95% German. There is the vague 4% Eastern European and other noise. I
certainly don\'t feel any tribal affiliation just because some life form
happens to speak English.

Actually the category is French & German although the most likely match is
Baden-Wurttenberg followed by Bavaria with nothing in France. I\'m not sure
how they lump the two genetically.

Sadly I am 0% Native American so I can\'t join Elizabeth Warren\'s tribe.
 
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 12:43:26 +1000, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 12:36:20 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 02:29:22 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 05:23:33 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 01:53:16 +1000, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 11:12:49 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 02:53:59 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 20:34:04 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 10:19:48 -0000, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-03-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:23:13 +0000, NY wrote:


OK, so some British-English spellings have mutated over the
years:
few people uses \"gaol\" instead of \"jail\", and \"disk\" is
becoming
common as an alternative to \"disc\" - and not just in computing.
Of
course CD is \"compact disc\" with a C, so British spelling rules
there
;-)

Gaol always threw me as in \'The Ballad of Reading Gaol\'. I
suppose
it\'s in line with Gerald and so forth. I\'m never sure about disk
and
tend to alternate. \'Ax\' is another one. This newsreader flags
\'axe\'
but I tend to favor that spelling.


The one difference that works the opposite way round is the
pronunciation of \"herb\". British pronounces the H whereas
American
often omits the H sound \"erb\" as if it were French.

I\'ll go with herb. \'Erb\' sounds affected to me.

Herb sounds affected to me.

Not sure what you mean. Is that like \"affection\"?

Putting on airs, like some Liverpool yob trying to use RP.

I can\'t stand the Liverpooooooooool accent. Where the ooooo is 4
octaves higher than any man should be able to achieve.

Strange that a tiny place like England should have so many distinct
accents.

Much worse in Italy, it isnt just accents there, its entire dialects
which are completely unintelligible to other Italians.

When humans got intelligent and invented weapons, we became the top
preditor.

Yes.

So we developed tribes so we could fight other tribes for
territory to hunt in.

Nope, there were always tribes, even with the higher
apes and monkey and almost all other animal species.

Language and accents define tribes.

That utterly mangles the real story.

So tell us the real story.

There are always tribes with almost all higher animals.

Nothing to do with language and accents.

It\'s interesting that Hitler invaded countries to protect their
German-speaking minorities.

That wasn\'t just about the language they used, that was about
where they had come from, not the language they used.

And Putin invaded Ukraine to protect its
Russian speakers.

Nope, he invaded because he wanted to grab more territory.

He failed to do that previously with Georgia but succeeded
with the Crimea and if he succeeds with the Ukraine with
grab Moldova next and none of them speak russian.

That\'s a recurring pattern, language defining
tribes.

Have fun explaining Italy.
 
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 15:41:59 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
Richard addressing senile Rodent Speed:
\"Shit you\'re thick/pathetic excuse for a troll.\"
MID: <ogoa38$pul$1@news.mixmin.net>
 
On 18 Apr 2023 05:21:18 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> The Ukraine and Russia would be hard to sort out genetically but not

Keep your sick senile shit out of these ngs, you miserable pathological
bigmouth!

--
More of the resident bigmouth\'s usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I\'m not saying my father and uncle wouldn\'t have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn\'t hurt. Stanton\'s was the
hometown brewery but it closed in \'50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.

My preference was Rheingold on tap\"

MID: <k9mnmmF9emhU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:51:46 -0700, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:


> The Beatles did a lot of songs in American.

Not as much as you abnormal senile Yankietards keep spouting ever more of
your endless sick shit in these three newsgroups!
 
On 18/04/2023 03:43, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 12:36:20 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 02:29:22 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 05:23:33 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 01:53:16 +1000, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 11:12:49 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 02:53:59 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Mar 2023 20:34:04 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Wed, 08 Mar 2023 10:19:48 -0000, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-03-08, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2023 11:23:13 +0000, NY wrote:


OK, so some British-English spellings have mutated over the
years:
few people uses \"gaol\" instead of \"jail\", and \"disk\" is becoming
common as an alternative to \"disc\" - and not just in computing.
Of
course CD is \"compact disc\" with a C, so British spelling rules
there
;-)

Gaol always threw me as in \'The Ballad of Reading Gaol\'. I suppose
it\'s in line with Gerald and so forth. I\'m never sure about disk
and
tend to alternate. \'Ax\' is another one. This newsreader flags
\'axe\'
but I tend to favor that spelling.


The one difference that works the opposite way round is the
pronunciation of \"herb\". British pronounces the H whereas
American
often omits the H sound \"erb\" as if it were French.

I\'ll go with herb. \'Erb\' sounds affected to me.

Herb sounds affected to me.

Not sure what you mean. Is that like \"affection\"?

Putting on airs, like some Liverpool yob trying to use RP.

I can\'t stand the Liverpooooooooool accent. Where the ooooo is 4
octaves higher than any man should be able to achieve.

Strange that a tiny place like England should have so many distinct
accents.

Much worse in Italy, it isnt just accents there, its entire dialects
which are completely unintelligible to other Italians.

When humans got intelligent and invented weapons, we became the top
preditor.

Yes.

So we developed tribes so we could fight other tribes for
territory to hunt in.

Nope, there were always tribes, even with the higher
apes and monkey and almost all other animal species.

Language and accents define tribes.

That utterly mangles the real story.

So tell us the real story.

It\'s interesting that Hitler invaded countries to protect their
German-speaking minorities. And Putin invaded Ukraine to protect its
Russian speakers. That\'s a recurring pattern, language defining
tribes.
Er no, there is a recurrent pattern of dictators using weak excuses to
justify invading their neighbours.

The UK could justify a military takeover of the Irish Republic by that
logic


--
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else\'s pocket.
 
On 18/04/2023 06:21, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 19:43:26 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

It\'s interesting that Hitler invaded countries to protect their
German-speaking minorities. And Putin invaded Ukraine to protect its
Russian speakers. That\'s a recurring pattern, language defining tribes.

The Ukraine and Russia would be hard to sort out genetically but not
Germans and Slavs for the most part. I speak English but 23andMe pegs me
as 95% German. There is the vague 4% Eastern European and other noise. I
certainly don\'t feel any tribal affiliation just because some life form
happens to speak English.
Crimea was totally emptied of its population once under Stalin, then
again under Putin.
It is Russia\'s best access to the Mediterranean. which is why they
wanted it., Nothing to do with fake \'ethnic Russians\'


--
\"The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow witted
man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest
thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly
persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid
before him.\"

- Leo Tolstoy
 

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