Why do circuit breakers go up for on and down for off?...

On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 18:35:58 -0000, SteveW <steve@walker-family.me.uk> wrote:

On 28/02/2023 18:19, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 2/28/23 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

[snip]

I had a turntable that had a plastic stroboscopic disk mounted on it to
dial in the speed. It was strictly 33 rpm though. iirc the platter was
aluminum but it was quite heavy.

I\'ve got a direct drive quartz controlled turntable that can be set to
exactly 33.33 +- a bit if you dial it in.

The old turntable my father had had 4 speeds: 78, 45, 33-1/3, 16-2/3. He
said that last one was used for educational materials.

Or for playing Pinky and Perky records and hearing normal voices!

78 is to make Johnny Cash have a normal voice.
 
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 19:44:41 -0000, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 28/02/2023 17:30, Max Demian wrote:
On 28/02/2023 17:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 28/02/2023 16:39, rbowman wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 13:57:31 +0000, Max Demian wrote:


Not my quartz lock direct drive turntable. The platter is aluminium and
has what looks like a tape head inside which reads off a ferrite
coating
inside the rim. Presumably there are two tracks of signals recorded on
it,
one for 33 and the other for 45 RPM.


I had a turntable that had a plastic stroboscopic disk mounted on it to
dial in the speed. It was strictly 33 rpm though. iirc the platter was
aluminum but it was quite heavy.

I\'ve got a direct drive quartz controlled turntable that can be set to
exactly 33.33 +- a bit if you dial it in.

Not thirty-three and a third?

The digital display only goes to two signifiant places...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266152781538

Then you can never get it perfect.
 
On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 03:09:14 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 15:05:31 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Why were they never made of something more grippy than highly polished
steel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Washington_Cog_Railway

Should be used on all tracks, then perhaps trains could stop in the distance my car is required to by law.
 
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 11:30:39 +1100, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 03:09:14 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 15:05:31 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Why were they never made of something more grippy than highly polished
steel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Washington_Cog_Railway

Should be used on all tracks,

Not even possible with the higher speed lines.

then perhaps trains could stop in the distance my car is required to by
law.

Not a chance given how much heavier any train is, let alone freight trains.
 
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 00:30:39 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 03:09:14 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 15:05:31 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Why were they never made of something more grippy than highly polished
steel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Washington_Cog_Railway

Should be used on all tracks, then perhaps trains could stop in the
distance my car is required to by law.

Do the math. A fully laden coal car weighs about 140 tons. I\'ve never been
bored enough to count cars when I stopped at a crossing but there are a
lot of them. Let\'s say 30 for the sake of argument, 4200 tons plus the
weight of the engines. Let\'s say 4 at 200 tons each. So, roughly 5000 tons
traveling at 50 mph. That\'s quite a bit of kinetic energy to dump in 300\'.
I can hear snapping axles and see flying wheels.
 
rbowman wrote on 3/12/2023 10:05 PM:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 00:30:39 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 03:09:14 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 15:05:31 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Why were they never made of something more grippy than highly polished
steel?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Washington_Cog_Railway
Should be used on all tracks, then perhaps trains could stop in the
distance my car is required to by law.
Do the math. A fully laden coal car weighs about 140 tons. I\'ve never been
bored enough to count cars when I stopped at a crossing but there are a
lot of them. Let\'s say 30 for the sake of argument, 4200 tons plus the
weight of the engines. Let\'s say 4 at 200 tons each. So, roughly 5000 tons
traveling at 50 mph. That\'s quite a bit of kinetic energy to dump in 300\'.
I can hear snapping axles and see flying wheels.

The wheels and the rails are steel. A train can never have enough
friction to stop at a short distance. The brakes can lock all the wheels
but the train will still move forward due to inertia.
 
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 13:05:11 +1100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 00:30:39 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 03:09:14 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 15:05:31 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Why were they never made of something more grippy than highly polished
steel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Washington_Cog_Railway

Should be used on all tracks, then perhaps trains could stop in the
distance my car is required to by law.

Do the math. A fully laden coal car weighs about 140 tons. I\'ve never
been
bored enough to count cars when I stopped at a crossing but there are a
lot of them. Let\'s say 30 for the sake of argument, 4200 tons plus the
weight of the engines. Let\'s say 4 at 200 tons each.

You don\'t have 4 for a 30 coal car train.

And you can\'t do 4 loco engines on a cogwheel train.

So, roughly 5000 tons
traveling at 50 mph. That\'s quite a bit of kinetic energy to dump in
300\'.

I can hear snapping axles and see flying wheels.

It would just rip the teeth off the cogwheet drive.
 
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 13:43:31 +1100, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ <.> wrote:

rbowman wrote on 3/12/2023 10:05 PM:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 00:30:39 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 03:09:14 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 15:05:31 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Why were they never made of something more grippy than highly
polished
steel?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Washington_Cog_Railway
Should be used on all tracks, then perhaps trains could stop in the
distance my car is required to by law.
Do the math. A fully laden coal car weighs about 140 tons. I\'ve never
been
bored enough to count cars when I stopped at a crossing but there are a
lot of them. Let\'s say 30 for the sake of argument, 4200 tons plus the
weight of the engines. Let\'s say 4 at 200 tons each. So, roughly 5000
tons
traveling at 50 mph. That\'s quite a bit of kinetic energy to dump in
300\'.
I can hear snapping axles and see flying wheels.


The wheels and the rails are steel. A train can never have enough
friction to stop at a short distance. The brakes can lock all the wheels
but the train will still move forward due to inertia.

The PHucker/Kinsey was talking about a COG WHEEL system.
 
On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 22:43:31 -0400, 😎 Mighty Wannabe ✅ wrote:

rbowman wrote on 3/12/2023 10:05 PM:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 00:30:39 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2023 03:09:14 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Mar 2023 15:05:31 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Why were they never made of something more grippy than highly
polished steel?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Washington_Cog_Railway
Should be used on all tracks, then perhaps trains could stop in the
distance my car is required to by law.
Do the math. A fully laden coal car weighs about 140 tons. I\'ve never
been bored enough to count cars when I stopped at a crossing but there
are a lot of them. Let\'s say 30 for the sake of argument, 4200 tons
plus the weight of the engines. Let\'s say 4 at 200 tons each. So,
roughly 5000 tons traveling at 50 mph. That\'s quite a bit of kinetic
energy to dump in 300\'.
I can hear snapping axles and see flying wheels.


The wheels and the rails are steel. A train can never have enough
friction to stop at a short distance. The brakes can lock all the wheels
but the train will still move forward due to inertia.

The reference was to the Mt. Washington Cog Railway. The wheels are for
guidance but the motive power is a rack and pinion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rack_railway

At least on Mt Washington it\'s only the engine and a small passenger car
operating at less than 10 mph. They\'re not feasible for general use.
 
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 12:00:23 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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On 13 Mar 2023 02:05:11 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> Do the math.

YOU do the math, you devoted sucker of troll cock: HE\'s a retarded trolling
sociopathic attention whore, and YOU are a senile attention-starved
bigmouth, braggart and troll-feeding senile arsehole!

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On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 14:49:35 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
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On 13 Mar 2023 05:45:10 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


The reference was to the Mt. Washington Cog Railway. The wheels are for
guidance but the motive power is a rack and pinion.

I seriously keep wondering what motive power drives your really incessantly
blabbering and gossiping big gob, bigmouth. ;-)

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On 12/03/2023 20:43, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 13:57:31 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:
On 27/02/2023 18:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:01:27 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-02-18 01:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I prefer the Garrard turntable my grandfather built into a big wooden
box with big amplifiers.  Auto stop, cushioned lowering of the stylus
etc.  Very smooth everything, the turntable had a lot of inertia in
it,
must have been a big heavy flywheel underneath for smooth rotation.

The plate itself is the flywheel. Good ones were heavy.

Good point, it did look like a nice thick steel plate.

Not my quartz lock direct drive turntable. The platter is aluminium and
has what looks like a tape head inside which reads off a ferrite coating
inside the rim. Presumably there are two tracks of signals recorded on
it, one for 33 and the other for 45 RPM.

You\'re assuming a very constant power supply to the motor.

What\'s that got to do with the price of fish? It compares the signal
recorded on the tracks to the quartz oscillator and adjusts the power to
the motor accordingly. If you slow it with your finger the white \"Quartz
Lock\" light goes out. The motor also applies an electromagnetic brake to
slow the platter quickly when it stops.

--
Max Demian
 
On Mon, 13 Mar 2023 13:48:01 +0000, Max Dumbian, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

> What\'s that got to do with the price of fish?

STILL with that idiotic \"circuit breakers\" thread, you absolutely brain dead
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE?

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On 13/03/2023 13:48, Max Demian wrote:
On 12/03/2023 20:43, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 13:57:31 -0000, Max Demian
max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/02/2023 18:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:01:27 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-02-18 01:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:

I prefer the Garrard turntable my grandfather built into a big wooden
box with big amplifiers.  Auto stop, cushioned lowering of the stylus
etc.  Very smooth everything, the turntable had a lot of inertia
in it,
must have been a big heavy flywheel underneath for smooth rotation.

The plate itself is the flywheel. Good ones were heavy.

Good point, it did look like a nice thick steel plate.

Not my quartz lock direct drive turntable. The platter is aluminium and
has what looks like a tape head inside which reads off a ferrite coating
inside the rim. Presumably there are two tracks of signals recorded on
it, one for 33 and the other for 45 RPM.

You\'re assuming a very constant power supply to the motor.

What\'s that got to do with the price of fish? It compares the signal
recorded on the tracks to the quartz oscillator and adjusts the power to
the motor accordingly. If you slow it with your finger the white \"Quartz
Lock\" light goes out. The motor also applies an electromagnetic brake to
slow the platter quickly when it stops.
Its amazing how ignorant Kinsey is. I think the thinks his watch will
slow down as the battery runs out
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conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere\"
 
On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 1:12:02 AM UTC+11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/03/2023 13:48, Max Demian wrote:
On 12/03/2023 20:43, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 13:57:31 -0000, Max Demian <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/02/2023 18:42, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 22:01:27 -0000, Carlos E.R. <robin_...@es.invalid> wrote:
On 2023-02-18 01:27, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Its amazing how ignorant Kinsey is. I think the thinks his watch will
slow down as the battery runs out
--
\"It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing
conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere\"

The Natural Philosopher is cut from the same cloth. \"97% confidence limits\" is just meaningless jargon.

Only a total idiot would try to dress up a fatuous assertion about \"left wing conspirators\" by trying to make look vaguely like the conclusion of a statistical study.

People do talk about 95% confidence limits - two standard deviations away from the mean includes 95% of a normal distribution, and three standard deviations include 99.7% - but the 97% number is clearly bogus - imperfectly-recalled window dressing.

--
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On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 13:53:01 -0000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 28/02/2023 11:37, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sat, 18 Feb 2023 21:57:43 -0000, Carlos E.R.
robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

I remember reading an ancient book on building your own radio, and they
mentioned regenerative receivers with only a single valve. Some would
emit back on the receiving antena, so they said don\'t do this, it is
illegal and nasty on your neighbours. Better use two valves, isolating
the oscillator from the antena.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_circuit

Sounds like a good way to annoy a neighbour you hate and prevent them
listening to the radio station you don\'t like.

People got used to hearing squeals in the early evening when people were
tuning their radios in. Just as, later, people listening on long wave
got used to the whistling interference from 405 line TVs.

How come I remember a whine on LW and I was born in 1975?
 
On Fri, 03 Mar 2023 02:55:51 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Mar 2023 01:13:41 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 21:04:08 -0000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 25 Feb 2023 07:51:59 -0000, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Don\'t motorbikes have cruise control nowadays?

Some, particularly the big Harleys and GoldWings. One of my bikes has a
screw to lock the throttle, sort of a cruise control I guess.

A screw operated by a screwdriver?

http://www.indianmotoparts.com/media/ss_size1/41-030TLK.jpg

Officially it\'s a throttle tension adjustment. Crank it down and it\'s a
poor man\'s cruise control. The trick is to get it tight enough so the
throttle won\'t close by itself but you can still manually twist it.

It\'s really handy so you can stand on the pegs, stick your arms out, and
play airplane.

A picture of you doing this is now required.
 

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