v for frequency?...

On 29 May 2023 06:27:00 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> I\'m talking about

You GOSSIP about EVERYTHING, you subnormal senile gossip and bigmouthed
armchair warrior who admitted he had never been in the army! LOL

--
More absolutely idiotic blather by the resident senile gossip:
\"My mother sometimes made a cherry chiffon cake that started with a
packaged mix. It wasn\'t bad if you squished a slice down to resemble real
cake.\"
MID: <kaldt8F22l6U12@mid.individual.net>
 
On Mon, 29 May 2023 17:11:11 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
Sqwertz to Rodent Speed:
\"This is just a hunch, but I\'m betting you\'re kinda an argumentative
asshole.
MID: <ev1p6ml7ywd5$.dlg@sqwertz.com>
 
On Mon, 29 May 2023 08:46:34 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
\"Anonymous\" to trolling senile Rodent Speed:
\"You can fuck off as you know less than pig shit you sad
little ignorant cunt.\"
MID: <62dcaae57b421e2b3b10e97d9c0ddf08@haph.org>
 
On 29 May 2023 02:25:57 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> Ultimately the world, I believe.

Ultimately, the world -that includes also your neighbours in the US-
believes that you ARE nothing but a real sick abnormal bigmouth!

--
More of the resident senile bigmouth\'s idiotic \"cool\" blather:
\"For reasons I can\'t recall I painted a spare bedroom in purple. It may
have had something to do with copious quantities of cheap Scotch.\"
MID: <k89lchF8b4pU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On Mon, 29 May 2023 13:44:23 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>
 
On 29 May 2023 06:16:16 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


https://www.britannica.com/place/Germany/The-economy-1890-1914

Are you blissful in your ignorance?
Click to expand...

What is obvious is that you are blissful hearing yourself talking, while HE
is blissful when he\'s auto-contradicting. IOW, this here is about TWO
blissfully senile ASSHOLES and TROLLS are having a tete-a-tete! LOL

--
Yet more of the abnormal senile gossiping by the resident senile gossip:
\"I never understood how they made a living but the space where the local
party store was is now up for lease. It probably was more than helium. I
often walk over the the adjacent market to get something for dinner and
people stuffing balloons in their cars was a common sight. No more. I\'ve
no idea if there is another store in town.\"
MID: <kafs2nF6vi1U15@mid.individual.net>
 
On Mon, 29 May 2023 17:06:52 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
FredXX to Rodent Speed:
\"You are still an idiot and an embarrassment to your country. No wonder
we shipped the likes of you out of the British Isles. Perhaps stupidity
and criminality is inherited after all?\"
Message-ID: <plbf76$gfl$1@dont-email.me>
 
On Mon, 29 May 2023 08:26:24 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing the auto-contradicting senile cretin:
\"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)\"
MID: <XnsA97071CF43E3Fadmin127001@85.214.115.223>
 
On 29 May 2023 04:05:44 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


True but in many cases videos are used by people too lazy to write the
text description. Worst case it\'s someone reading Powerpoint slides
verbatim, presumably for the illiterates in the audience.
Click to expand...

Worst case is really when someone has to read through your always
grandiloquent, verbose chatter and gossip, you self-admiring abnormal
bigmouth!

--
Self-admiring lowbrowwoman telling everyone yet another \"thrilling\" story
about her great life:
\"In a role reversal my mother taught her father to drive. She was in the
back seat when he took his first test, trying a little telepathy: \"release
the handbrake. release the handbrake\'. He didn\'t, stalled the engine and
failed. The next time went better.\"
MID: <kafp0uF6vi1U5@mid.individual.net>
 
On 29 May 2023 04:00:37 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

>You betcha...

You betcha that this is still about noodles and cheese in
sci.electronics.design, alt.home.repair and uk.d-i-y, you pathological
gossiping washerwoman!

--
More of the resident senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
\"My family and I traveled cross country in \'52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it\'s difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn\'t been destroyed.\"
MID: <kae9ivF7suU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On 29 May 2023 02:59:47 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


That all depends on how much you credit Sharpiro\'s 2004 book and
Mickkleson apparently does. I\'ll go with Dichter\'s original theory.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Click to expand...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA! What a totally fucked up bigmouth and braggart! Well, a
TYPICAL Trumptard! LOL

--
Trump-, Hitler- and Putin-sympathizer lowbrowwoman about Nazi-Germany\'s good
intentions:
\"At the onset all Germany wanted was to build a road to East Prussia which
had been severed from Germany proper by the Danzig Corridor.\"
MID: <kabnetFft5qU17@mid.individual.net>
 
On 29/05/2023 07:16, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 13:44:23 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Germany never amounted to much militarily or economically before WW1

https://www.britannica.com/place/Germany/The-economy-1890-1914

Are you blissful in your ignorance?
Click to expand...

He is. Utterly blissful.
I seem to recall it was parts of what became Germany that united with
Britain to crush Napoleon at Waterloo.

Of course Germany didn\'t exist as a nation till somewhat later, being
comprised of several kingdoms then

--
Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich
people by telling poor people that \"other\" rich people are the reason
they are poor.

Peter Thompson
 
On 29/05/2023 07:27, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 13:34:16 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:


Western Europe doesn\'t have the wherewithal to have a good, old
fashioned war.

Pity about WW1 and all the wars there before that.

I\'m talking about here and now. \'does not\' indicates the present tense.


That may be why they\'re so fascinated with a proxy war in eastern
Europe.

Nope, that\'s because they noticed what happened when no one did anything
about Hitler\'s invasions until he invaded Poland.

How did Britain\'s guarantees work out for Poland?
Click to expand...
Not well, as by the time the war ended Britain was in no position to
keep any promises, and The USA and Russia let Stalin have Eastern Europe.

It took massive campaigning by Churchill to alert the USA to the basic
fact that Stalin wanted do do wjat Hitler had failed to do - incorprate
all of Europe into a colonial empire.


Britain still thinks it\'s in a position to affect the balance of power
on the continent.

Bullshit.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61052643

Johnson couldn\'t even help himself but he egged on Zelensky. Sunak is
continuing the tradition.
Click to expand...

Once again, we see a danger that the USA does not, by and large. Russia
under Putin has reawakened its desire to be grand master of Europe, has
massively influenced and controlled and helped the development of the EU
towards a centralised bureaucratic state, such as Russia espouses, and
has compromised bribed and blackmailed politicians throughout Europe
(and indeed the USA) to further its geopolitical interests.
Its main enemies are those European NATO states such as Poland, Estonia,
Latvia, Lithuania, and indeed Finland, who know exactly what it is like
to be part of its Empire.
Germany of course was pretty much run by Russia under Frau Merkel, the
Russian supported (allegedly ex-) communist. It is in a very difficult
situation, as is Hungary.
The West at the level of real geopolitics has understood that Ukraine
represents an opportunity to essentlally de-Nazify and de-militarise
Russia, at remarkably little cost.
They supply the obsolescent surplus military kit, and Ukraine supplies
the casualties.
Its all very well to raid the scrap bin for military hardware about to
be scrapped anyway, and sell it to Ukraine, and the utter failure of
Russian technology has ruined *their* export market for arms.

But of course the West is still riddled with people who are in Russia\'s
pay, or being blackmailed even if they think they are not, who parrot
the Kremlin propaganda lines that:

Zelensky and Ukraine are corrupt
Ukraine is part of Russia
Why should the West spend all that money defending it?
Its none of our business.
They will Thcweam and Thcweam until they are Thick and drop Nukes on Alaska.
Ukraine cannot win
Russia cannot lose.

Etc. Etc.
Those of us who spend time examining the online trolls are utterly
aware of the instructions given to the on-line trolls and to Russian
fifth columnists in the Western media, as these spun narratives start
first on the Russian state propganda channels and then appear all over
the western media, and in the mouths of US politicians.

Russia has been gaslighting the West for decades, supporting and
purchasing or blackmailing politicians in all parties, media influencers
and radical organizations. With the sole object of creating dissension
hatred and polarisation.

It doesn\'t support the left or the right. It supports a civil war
between them.

I bet you thought you did it all by yourselves.

In reality however, it made the fatal mistake of believing its own
bullshit, and finally overreached itself and is now facing annihilation.

What will be interesting, is how much of the modern politically correct
\'woke\' bullshit and EcoBollox, will get annihilated with it, once
starved of funding...


--
Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich
people by telling poor people that \"other\" rich people are the reason
they are poor.

Peter Thompson
 
On 28/05/2023 22:03, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:45:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 27/05/2023 22:33, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 08:10:26 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

We never had food rationing.

Certainly we did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationing_in_the_United_States

My parents kept chickens and also had a vegetable garden. Eggs or
chickens could be bartered for sugar and other commodities.

One of the family stories told how my father had acquired a 5 gallon
tin of motor oil through barter. All was good until my mother went to
the garage one day and saw a rat sitting on the can. She hated mice and
rats although they went hand in hand with raising chickens. Being a
self- sufficient woman she got her 16 gauge and blew the rat to hell,
along with most of the oil can.

Footnote: although it has almost vanished today a 16 gauge was
considered a ladies shotgun; my father and I used 12s.

16 gauge? Is that like a 20 bore? Oh, its a 16 bore. So halfway between
a 12 and a 20...or a serious gun and a \'rook rifle\'

The 20 bore, as you say, has become very popular in the US.

https://www.gundogmag.com/editorial/the-return-of-the-16gauge-shotgun/
385243

That article claims it was the skeet shooting rules that favored the 20.
Skeet wasn\'t popular where I grew up and was seen as a bit snobby like
golf and the 20 bore wasn\'t considered to be useful for hunting. Some kids
would start with a .410 but my father taught me with a 12.
Click to expand...
20 bores and 410s are, in the UK, regarded as excellent vermin shotguns
as the carry is even shorter than a 12 bore and you don\'t need the range
or stopping power for rats, pigeons and squirrels, and also because of
licencing being hard for .22 and other rifles, moderaletely powerful air
rifles with IR sights are now the favourite for the midnight rat
shooting brigade.

I\'ve shot a few things with my .22 air rifle, but its (accurate) range
is at best 30metres.

Such hunting as is done, is with shotguns (never repeating, only two
barrels max) and very occasionally by licensed hunters with .22, .25,
and a few other calibre bolt action only,
This country is simply too damned crowded to let any but the most
trained loose with a rifle.

Handguns are absolutely illegal except in specialised ranges.
Needless to say there are plenty about in the hands of criminals


,
The .410 has regained some popularity since there are revolvers chambered
for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_&_Wesson_Governor
Click to expand...
Just owning one of those would be ten years in prison here. On the basis
that its only use is short range killing of humans by unskilled
gunslingers...


--
“It is not the truth of Marxism that explains the willingness of
intellectuals to believe it, but the power that it confers on
intellectuals, in their attempts to control the world. And since...it is
futile to reason someone out of a thing that he was not reasoned into,
we can conclude that Marxism owes its remarkable power to survive every
criticism to the fact that it is not a truth-directed but a
power-directed system of thought.”
Sir Roger Scruton
 
On 28/05/2023 22:36, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:41:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

It gradually gor better but some imported goods remained expensive for a
long time. Hitlers U-boats shagged the merchant fleets something
rotten.

Payback for the blockade of Germany that was enforced for 8 months after
the Armistice was a bitch.
Click to expand...

Well. Germany had sorta really started WWI, and bombed England, France
Belgium and IIRC Holland, so the Allies were somewhat pissed.
Then when Germany used all that as an excuse to start WWII, and made a
bloody fucking mess of most of Europe, and quite a lot of Africa and the
middle east, we did get pissed again.
We tolerate the USA\'s colonialism, because at the end of the day its
just business. Nothing against you injuns personally, we just want your
land to grow crops and herd beef on. Its the death and glory boys from
e.g. Russia we don\'t like.

--
\"A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight
and understanding\".

Marshall McLuhan
 
On 29/05/2023 03:15, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 08:09:55 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 03:03:38 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:43:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 27/05/2023 22:24, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 16:50, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:

We never had food rationing.

During WWII we did. Our rationing ended long before the UK\'s.

Do you mean when Americans only had 15 different kinds of ice cream
flavours?

Your point that our rationing wasn\'t as bad as your rationing is
taken. However, the U.S. had rationing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Rationing_in_the_United_States#World_War_II

Of course our food rationing wasn\'t as bad as yours, because we had a
lot more acreage under cultivation. And nobody was bombing it.

\"At the start of the Second World War in 1939, the United Kingdom was
importing 20 million long tons of food per year, including about 70%
of its cheese and sugar, almost 80% of fruit and about 70% of cereals
and fats. The UK also imported more than half of its meat and relied
on imported feed to support its domestic meat production.\"

You guys were in real trouble, no doubt about it.

While you guys sat back and made money out of us, till Japan kicked
you in the balls.

The US population was wary of millenia of non-stop european wars.

Yes.

As continue today.

Not in western europe they don\'t.

Western Europe doesn\'t have the wherewithal to have a good, old fashioned
war. That may be why they\'re so fascinated with a proxy war in eastern
Europe. Britain still thinks it\'s in a position to affect the balance of
power on the continent.
Click to expand...
And it is in fact completely correct in that assumption. It does.
The Storm Shadows it has supplied are having a huge impact of Russian
logistics.
And now Britain has supplied them, France doesnt want to feel left out
and will be supplying French made ones, which they call SCALPS.
It was the UKs decision to send a token dozen main battle tanks with no
nuclear retaliation by Moscow, that emboldened the USA and Germany to
send Aramms and leopard tanks, respectively.
It is on UK soil that the USAF has all its F15s and F35s, its Rivet
joint surveillance aircraft and its stratotankers, that are all buzzing
round over my head as a deterrent and in support of intelligence
gathering along Ukraine\'s borders.

Just because Biden hates the UK, doesn\'t mean that a lot of US military
personnel are not stationed here interoperating seamlessly with UK
military personnel, and cooperating on joint manoeuvres that see e.g.
B52s patrolling the Baltic escorted by Eurofighters.

We are effectively at war here. In alliance with all our NATO partners.
Including the USA.

And we all make a difference.

--
\"A point of view can be a dangerous luxury when substituted for insight
and understanding\".

Marshall McLuhan
 
On 29/05/2023 03:25, rbowman wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 08:46:34 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote

While you guys sat back and made money out of us, till Japan kicked
you in the balls.

Roosevelt\'s idea of \'neutrality\' was as lopsided as Wilson\'s. It would
have been better to sit back and let WWI take its course.

Better for who ?

Ultimately the world, I believe. A more equitable treaty might have headed
off WWII. Britain wanted to make sure Germany never challenged their
military or economic hegemony and France was still butt hurt about 1871.
Wilson, with all his idealism, was as addled as Biden.

Nothing would have satved of WWII.
Click to expand...

The Germans wanted their Lebensraum, and it wasn\'t the treaties, its was
the world economic collapse of the 1930s that ulimately gave
justification to Hitlers claims that it was the worldwide Jewish
conspiracy especially Jewish bankers that were to blame for everything.

A view that was quite commonly held across the European aristocracy.

War was simply inevitable because Germany ended up in such an economic
mess that only a war would distract from it and justify it. And no one
who has watched the Nuremberg rallies or listened to the testaments of
those alive than can have any doubt that the emotional stance of the
German people was for it 100%.

Only a few more intelligent ones understood the implications.

Japan was a good example of a possible outcome when sanctions and
embargoes are used against a rising nation that feels it has a better
founded interest in East Asia than a country an ocean away.

Bit hard on the chinese tho.

So it goes. Japan, China, and Korea have as much right to fratricidal wars
as Europe.
Click to expand...
Wars are good things. They allow more efficient cultures to conquer less
efficient ones, and reduce populations an pressure on resources by
killing dozens of young over testosteroned fertile males, and genocide
gets rid of the tensions caused by \'diversity\'.
The experience on the survivors is also salutary. They shut up and stop
whining and count themselves lucky to be alive and at some sort of peace.


It all started with Perry\'s Black Ships. The ruling oligarchs in the US

No such animal.

Well, whatever you want to call a political system that\'s sold to the
highest bidder. That \"government of the people, by the people, for the
people\" was nice rhetoric but was bullshit even as it left Lincoln\'s
mouth.
Click to expand...

Indeed it was.
Unless \'the people\' meant the English aristocrats who had moved over
there and claimed it for themselves.
Anyone who regards government as anything more than a necessary evil to
be avoided at all costs except where there is no other alternative is an
idiot.

--
Canada is all right really, though not for the whole weekend.

\"Saki\"
 
On 28/05/2023 22:31, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-28, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 23:12, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:48:44 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

In the UK, you can buy macaroni cheese in cans or plastic trays to heat.
But you have to add the topping (grated cheese plus packet breadcrumbs)
before you put it in a conventional oven (or under a grill).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

It says a lot about the decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.

A simple written instruction is better than having to sit through a
verbose video.

Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring?

Of course. There are places in the U.S. where people expect
\"cheddar\" cheese to be white; other places expect it to be orange.
I live in the latter. It\'s generally colored with annatto.
Click to expand...

The Mature Cheddar Cheese I buy at my local supermarket is a pale
yellow, and is \"Free From: Artificial Colours, Artificial Flavours.\"

--
Max Demian
 
On 29/05/2023 03:59, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 20:15:13 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

Apparently this isn\'t true, at least not as the story is usually told:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/something-eggstra/

That all depends on how much you credit Sharpiro\'s 2004 book and
Mickkleson apparently does. I\'ll go with Dichter\'s original theory.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? is a valid question when it comes to the
opinions expressed by snopes.
Click to expand...

Yes, Snopes is essentially a debunking site. The story they present may
not be true, but the original version may be largely correct. Stories
are changed with constant retelling, for example by changing the location.

--
Max Demian
 
On 29/05/2023 12:33, Max Demian wrote:
On 28/05/2023 22:31, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-28, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 23:12, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:48:44 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

In the UK, you can buy macaroni cheese in cans or plastic trays to
heat.
But you have to add the topping (grated cheese plus packet
breadcrumbs)
before you put it in a conventional oven (or under a grill).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

It says a lot about the decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.

A simple written instruction is better than having to sit through a
verbose video.

Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring?

Of course.  There are places in the U.S. where people expect
\"cheddar\" cheese to be white; other places expect it to be orange.
I live in the latter.  It\'s generally colored with annatto.

The Mature Cheddar Cheese I buy at my local supermarket is a pale
yellow, and is \"Free From: Artificial Colours, Artificial Flavours.\"
Click to expand...
Well the best cheddars in te UK are off white with a slight buttery
tinge. Red Leciester is the only red tinged cheese I can think off, and
all the other cheese worldwide that I have ever experienced are all in
narrow shade of white, (fetta, mozarrella, caerphilly\' to more or less
straw coloured. With or without blue veining.
Bright yellow cheese is US processed muck. And I wouldn\'t really call it
cheese.

--
It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
Mark Twain
 
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