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The Natural Philosopher wrote
While you guys sat back and made money out of us, till Japan kicked you
in the balls.
Roosevelt\'s idea of \'neutrality\' was as lopsided as Wilson\'s. It would
have been better to sit back and let WWI take its course.
Japan was a good example of a possible outcome when sanctions and
embargoes are used against a rising nation that feels it has a better
founded interest in East Asia than a country an ocean away.
are slow learners. The latest furor over China\'s banning of Micron chips
is an amazing example of hypocrisy. Japan realized they could not win a
sustained war when they attacked. I don\'t believe China has that problem.
On Mon, 29 May 2023 03:03:38 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:43:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 22:24, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 16:50, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
We never had food rationing.
During WWII we did. Our rationing ended long before the UK\'s.
Do you mean when Americans only had 15 different kinds of ice cream
flavours?
Your point that our rationing wasn\'t as bad as your rationing is
taken. However, the U.S. had rationing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Rationing_in_the_United_States#World_War_II
Of course our food rationing wasn\'t as bad as yours, because we had a
lot more acreage under cultivation. And nobody was bombing it.
\"At the start of the Second World War in 1939, the United Kingdom was
importing 20 million long tons of food per year, including about 70%
of its cheese and sugar, almost 80% of fruit and about 70% of cereals
and fats. The UK also imported more than half of its meat and relied
on imported feed to support its domestic meat production.\"
You guys were in real trouble, no doubt about it.
While you guys sat back and made money out of us, till Japan kicked
you in the balls.
The US population was wary of millenia of non-stop european wars.
Yes.
As continue today.
Not in western europe they don\'t.
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
While you guys sat back and made money out of us, till Japan kicked
you in the balls.
Roosevelt\'s idea of \'neutrality\' was as lopsided as Wilson\'s. It would
have been better to sit back and let WWI take its course.
Better for who ?
Japan was a good example of a possible outcome when sanctions and
embargoes are used against a rising nation that feels it has a better
founded interest in East Asia than a country an ocean away.
Bit hard on the chinese tho.
It all started with Perry\'s Black Ships. The ruling oligarchs in the US
No such animal.
I like strawberry ice cream, but it has to be _good_ strawberry ice
cream. With chunks of strawberry. The pink stuff in Neapolitan was
always artificially flavored.
Apparently this isn\'t true, at least not as the story is usually told:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/something-eggstra/
On Mon, 29 May 2023 08:09:55 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 03:03:38 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:43:29 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 22:24, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 16:50, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-27, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:
We never had food rationing.
During WWII we did. Our rationing ended long before the UK\'s.
Do you mean when Americans only had 15 different kinds of ice cream
flavours?
Your point that our rationing wasn\'t as bad as your rationing is
taken. However, the U.S. had rationing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Rationing_in_the_United_States#World_War_II
Of course our food rationing wasn\'t as bad as yours, because we had a
lot more acreage under cultivation. And nobody was bombing it.
\"At the start of the Second World War in 1939, the United Kingdom was
importing 20 million long tons of food per year, including about 70%
of its cheese and sugar, almost 80% of fruit and about 70% of cereals
and fats. The UK also imported more than half of its meat and relied
on imported feed to support its domestic meat production.\"
You guys were in real trouble, no doubt about it.
While you guys sat back and made money out of us, till Japan kicked
you in the balls.
The US population was wary of millenia of non-stop european wars.
Yes.
As continue today.
Not in western europe they don\'t.
Western Europe doesn\'t have the wherewithal to have a good, old fashioned
war.
That may be why they\'re so fascinated with a proxy war in eastern
Europe.
Britain still thinks it\'s in a position to affect the balance of
power on the continent.
Rod Speed wrote
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
While you guys sat back and made money out of us, till Japan kicked
you in the balls.
Roosevelt\'s idea of \'neutrality\' was as lopsided as Wilson\'s. It would
have been better to sit back and let WWI take its course.
Better for who ?
Ultimately the world, I believe.
A more equitable treaty might have headed
off WWII.
Britain wanted to make sure Germany never challenged their
military or economic hegemony
Japan was a good example of a possible outcome when sanctions and
embargoes are used against a rising nation that feels it has a better
founded interest in East Asia than a country an ocean away.
Bit hard on the chinese tho.
So it goes.
Japan, China, and Korea have as much right to fratricidal wars
as Europe.
It all started with Perry\'s Black Ships. The ruling oligarchs in the US
No such animal.
Well, whatever you want to call a political system that\'s sold to the
highest bidder.
That \"government of the people, by the people, for the
people\" was nice rhetoric but was bullshit even as it left Lincoln\'s
mouth.
Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring?
On Mon, 29 May 2023 04:49:42 +1000, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com
wrote:
On 27/05/2023 23:12, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:48:44 +0100, Max Demian wrote:
In the UK, you can buy macaroni cheese in cans or plastic trays to
heat.
But you have to add the topping (grated cheese plus packet
breadcrumbs)
before you put it in a conventional oven (or under a grill).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns It says a lot about the
decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.
A simple written instruction is better than having to sit through a
verbose video.
There are plenty of situations where a well done video clip leaves a
text description for dead.
Probably not. The point is there wasn\'t a way to make them salty until
they found a way to coat the chips/crisps, in the late 60s in the UK I
think. Salt doesn\'t dissolve in cooking oil. Then they introduced the
flavours like cheese and onion.
You must have had the same problem in the US, unless people carried salt
cellars around with them.
Western Europe doesn\'t have the wherewithal to have a good, old
fashioned war.
Pity about WW1 and all the wars there before that.
That may be why they\'re so fascinated with a proxy war in eastern
Europe.
Nope, that\'s because they noticed what happened when no one did anything
about Hitler\'s invasions until he invaded Poland.
Britain still thinks it\'s in a position to affect the balance of power
on the continent.
Bullshit.
Rod Speed wrote
Germany never amounted to much militarily or economically before WW1
https://www.britannica.com/place/Germany/The-economy-1890-1914
Rod Speed wrote
Western Europe doesn\'t have the wherewithal to have a good, old
fashioned war.
Pity about WW1 and all the wars there before that.
I\'m talking about here and now. \'does not\' indicates the present tense.
That may be why they\'re so fascinated with a proxy war in eastern
Europe.
Nope, that\'s because they noticed what happened when no one did anything
about Hitler\'s invasions until he invaded Poland.
How did Britain\'s guarantees work out for Poland?
Britain still thinks it\'s in a position to affect the balance of power
on the continent.
Bullshit.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-61052643
Johnson couldn\'t even help himself but he egged on Zelensky. Sunak is
continuing the tradition.
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Germany never amounted to much militarily or economically before WW1
https://www.britannica.com/place/Germany/The-economy-1890-1914
Doesnt refute what I said as far as the navy and military
were concerned.let alone them being even remotely a
threat to the UK world wide militarily or economically.
Are you blissful in your ignorance?
You are the one with that problem.
Western Europe doesn\'t have the wherewithal to have a good, old fashioned
war. That may be why they\'re so fascinated with a proxy war in eastern
Europe. Britain still thinks it\'s in a position to affect the balance of
power on the continent.