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[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-05-29, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 28/05/2023 22:31, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-28, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 23:12, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:48:44 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

In the UK, you can buy macaroni cheese in cans or plastic trays to heat.
But you have to add the topping (grated cheese plus packet breadcrumbs)
before you put it in a conventional oven (or under a grill).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

It says a lot about the decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.

A simple written instruction is better than having to sit through a
verbose video.

Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring?

Of course. There are places in the U.S. where people expect
\"cheddar\" cheese to be white; other places expect it to be orange.
I live in the latter. It\'s generally colored with annatto.

The Mature Cheddar Cheese I buy at my local supermarket is a pale
yellow, and is \"Free From: Artificial Colours, Artificial Flavours.\"

We can buy that as well. But the mass-market stuff sold in grocery
stores and labeled \"cheddar\" is usually this (or a cheaper knockoff):

https://www.amazon.com/Kraft-Natural-Colored-Cheddar-Cheese/dp/B00CHU4XK4

Comes in mild, medium, sharp, and extra-sharp. It\'s recognizably
cheese (rather than \"cheese food\" or \"cheese product\"), but it\'s
pretty low-rent cheese.

Since I\'m not a huge fan of cheese, it\'s ok for my purposes. But
I also like imported Gruyere and Parmagiano-Reggiano. I\'m not too
fussy about Parm: anything from Emilia-Romagna with the DOP stamp
is fine. Length of aging is immaterial to me. I\'m a little concerned
about recent flooding in the area. I\'ll probably be paying double for
Parm in a year or two. I might also have to start eating domestic
country ham rather than prosciutto. Or Spanish ham.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 29 May 2023 13:26:03 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-05-29, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 28/05/2023 22:31, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-28, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 23:12, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:48:44 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

In the UK, you can buy macaroni cheese in cans or plastic trays to heat.
But you have to add the topping (grated cheese plus packet breadcrumbs)
before you put it in a conventional oven (or under a grill).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

It says a lot about the decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.

A simple written instruction is better than having to sit through a
verbose video.

Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring?

Of course. There are places in the U.S. where people expect
\"cheddar\" cheese to be white; other places expect it to be orange.
I live in the latter. It\'s generally colored with annatto.

The Mature Cheddar Cheese I buy at my local supermarket is a pale
yellow, and is \"Free From: Artificial Colours, Artificial Flavours.\"

We can buy that as well. But the mass-market stuff sold in grocery
stores and labeled \"cheddar\" is usually this (or a cheaper knockoff):

https://www.amazon.com/Kraft-Natural-Colored-Cheddar-Cheese/dp/B00CHU4XK4

Comes in mild, medium, sharp, and extra-sharp. It\'s recognizably
cheese (rather than \"cheese food\" or \"cheese product\"), but it\'s
pretty low-rent cheese.

Since I\'m not a huge fan of cheese, it\'s ok for my purposes. But
I also like imported Gruyere and Parmagiano-Reggiano. I\'m not too
fussy about Parm: anything from Emilia-Romagna with the DOP stamp
is fine. Length of aging is immaterial to me. I\'m a little concerned
about recent flooding in the area. I\'ll probably be paying double for
Parm in a year or two. I might also have to start eating domestic
country ham rather than prosciutto. Or Spanish ham.

The Sartori parmesan, from Wisconsin, is very good. Tillamook cheddar
from Oregon is as good as any import.

The US is now making some nice hard-aged gouda now.

Cowgirl Creamery has a couple of great cheeses. The USA is more than
Kraft now.

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-05-29, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 13:26:03 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-05-29, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 28/05/2023 22:31, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-28, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 23:12, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:48:44 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

In the UK, you can buy macaroni cheese in cans or plastic trays to heat.
But you have to add the topping (grated cheese plus packet breadcrumbs)
before you put it in a conventional oven (or under a grill).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

It says a lot about the decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.

A simple written instruction is better than having to sit through a
verbose video.

Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring?

Of course. There are places in the U.S. where people expect
\"cheddar\" cheese to be white; other places expect it to be orange.
I live in the latter. It\'s generally colored with annatto.

The Mature Cheddar Cheese I buy at my local supermarket is a pale
yellow, and is \"Free From: Artificial Colours, Artificial Flavours.\"

We can buy that as well. But the mass-market stuff sold in grocery
stores and labeled \"cheddar\" is usually this (or a cheaper knockoff):

https://www.amazon.com/Kraft-Natural-Colored-Cheddar-Cheese/dp/B00CHU4XK4

Comes in mild, medium, sharp, and extra-sharp. It\'s recognizably
cheese (rather than \"cheese food\" or \"cheese product\"), but it\'s
pretty low-rent cheese.

Since I\'m not a huge fan of cheese, it\'s ok for my purposes. But
I also like imported Gruyere and Parmagiano-Reggiano. I\'m not too
fussy about Parm: anything from Emilia-Romagna with the DOP stamp
is fine. Length of aging is immaterial to me. I\'m a little concerned
about recent flooding in the area. I\'ll probably be paying double for
Parm in a year or two. I might also have to start eating domestic
country ham rather than prosciutto. Or Spanish ham.

The Sartori parmesan, from Wisconsin, is very good. Tillamook cheddar
from Oregon is as good as any import.

The US is now making some nice hard-aged gouda now.

Cowgirl Creamery has a couple of great cheeses. The USA is more than
Kraft now.

Of course. But we started off talking about mac & cheese in the
little blue box.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 29/05/2023 14:45, John Larkin wrote:

The USA is more than Kraft now.

Only took them 500 years.

--
\"I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently.
This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and
all women\"

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 29/05/2023 14:56, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2023-05-29, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 13:26:03 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-05-29, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 28/05/2023 22:31, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2023-05-28, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
On 27/05/2023 23:12, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 27 May 2023 20:48:44 +0100, Max Demian wrote:

In the UK, you can buy macaroni cheese in cans or plastic trays to heat.
But you have to add the topping (grated cheese plus packet breadcrumbs)
before you put it in a conventional oven (or under a grill).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyCKmyDRns

It says a lot about the decline of the mean IQ in the US that someone
thought a 2 minute youtube tutorial was necessary.

A simple written instruction is better than having to sit through a
verbose video.

Looks rather revolting, with the bright yellow. Is that artificial
colouring?

Of course. There are places in the U.S. where people expect
\"cheddar\" cheese to be white; other places expect it to be orange.
I live in the latter. It\'s generally colored with annatto.

The Mature Cheddar Cheese I buy at my local supermarket is a pale
yellow, and is \"Free From: Artificial Colours, Artificial Flavours.\"

We can buy that as well. But the mass-market stuff sold in grocery
stores and labeled \"cheddar\" is usually this (or a cheaper knockoff):

https://www.amazon.com/Kraft-Natural-Colored-Cheddar-Cheese/dp/B00CHU4XK4

Comes in mild, medium, sharp, and extra-sharp. It\'s recognizably
cheese (rather than \"cheese food\" or \"cheese product\"), but it\'s
pretty low-rent cheese.

Since I\'m not a huge fan of cheese, it\'s ok for my purposes. But
I also like imported Gruyere and Parmagiano-Reggiano. I\'m not too
fussy about Parm: anything from Emilia-Romagna with the DOP stamp
is fine. Length of aging is immaterial to me. I\'m a little concerned
about recent flooding in the area. I\'ll probably be paying double for
Parm in a year or two. I might also have to start eating domestic
country ham rather than prosciutto. Or Spanish ham.

The Sartori parmesan, from Wisconsin, is very good. Tillamook cheddar
from Oregon is as good as any import.

The US is now making some nice hard-aged gouda now.

Cowgirl Creamery has a couple of great cheeses. The USA is more than
Kraft now.

Of course. But we started off talking about mac & cheese in the
little blue box.

https://www.waitrose.com/ecom/products/waitrose-italian-macaroni-cheese/052470-26157-26158

--
\"I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently.
This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and
all women\"

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 29 May 2023 11:54:31 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 28/05/2023 22:36, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:41:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

It gradually gor better but some imported goods remained expensive for a
long time. Hitlers U-boats shagged the merchant fleets something
rotten.

Payback for the blockade of Germany that was enforced for 8 months after
the Armistice was a bitch.

Well. Germany had sorta really started WWI, and bombed England, France
Belgium and IIRC Holland, so the Allies were somewhat pissed.
Then when Germany used all that as an excuse to start WWII, and made a
bloody fucking mess of most of Europe, and quite a lot of Africa and the
middle east, we did get pissed again.
We tolerate the USA\'s colonialism, because at the end of the day its
just business. Nothing against you injuns personally, we just want your
land to grow crops and herd beef on. Its the death and glory boys from
e.g. Russia we don\'t like.

I think that British and US \"colonialism\" were both net benefits to
the world. And, realistically, unavoidable.

The US natives now have anglo names, are literate, have horses and
houses and pickup trucks and beer and pizza and casinos and cataract
surgery. Few are voluntarily living off the land as hunter-gatherers.
Tribal warfare is now mostly on the internet.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 29/05/2023 15:09, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 11:54:31 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 28/05/2023 22:36, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:41:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

It gradually gor better but some imported goods remained expensive for a
long time. Hitlers U-boats shagged the merchant fleets something
rotten.

Payback for the blockade of Germany that was enforced for 8 months after
the Armistice was a bitch.

Well. Germany had sorta really started WWI, and bombed England, France
Belgium and IIRC Holland, so the Allies were somewhat pissed.
Then when Germany used all that as an excuse to start WWII, and made a
bloody fucking mess of most of Europe, and quite a lot of Africa and the
middle east, we did get pissed again.
We tolerate the USA\'s colonialism, because at the end of the day its
just business. Nothing against you injuns personally, we just want your
land to grow crops and herd beef on. Its the death and glory boys from
e.g. Russia we don\'t like.

I think that British and US \"colonialism\" were both net benefits to
the world. And, realistically, unavoidable.

The US natives now have anglo names, are literate, have horses and
houses and pickup trucks and beer and pizza and casinos and cataract
surgery. Few are voluntarily living off the land as hunter-gatherers.
Tribal warfare is now mostly on the internet.

The world hates Britain because, by and large, they were better off when
we were in charge.
The world hates Russia, because, by and large, they were worse off when
they were in charge.

It\'s all a matter of whether pride or reason dominates the pysche.

--
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit
atrocities.”

― Voltaire, Questions sur les Miracles à M. Claparede, Professeur de
Théologie à Genève, par un Proposant: Ou Extrait de Diverses Lettres de
M. de Voltaire

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 29 May 2023 14:56:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 29/05/2023 14:45, John Larkin wrote:
The USA is more than Kraft now.

Only took them 500 years.

\"Them\" ?

I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was like 500 years
ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted diseases.

(In the US, most states require all dairy products to be pasteurized
or equivalent.)

I suspect that a minority of europeans could often afford cheese 500
years ago. Malnutrition was usual.

Cheap cheese and expensive cheese are options now. Some people like
boxed mac+cheese, especially kids. You have permission to buy or cook
something else.

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 29/05/2023 15:22, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 14:56:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 29/05/2023 14:45, John Larkin wrote:
The USA is more than Kraft now.

Only took them 500 years.

\"Them\" ?
Merkins

I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was like 500 years
ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted diseases.

Everything transmits diseases dear. gut rot is a feature of all
societies that doint know how to avoid it.

(In the US, most states require all dairy products to be pasteurized
or equivalent.)
We dont require it, but its clearkly marked if you want to isiste onj it

I suspect that a minority of europeans could often afford cheese 500
years ago. Malnutrition was usual.

Bread, milk and cheese was the agrarian staple diet. Along with pottage.
Its only expensive when city dwellers buy it

Meat was the thing the peasant didn\'t get much of. A cow produced more
milk than it did beef, protein wise.

Cheap cheese and expensive cheese are options now. Some people like
boxed mac+cheese, especially kids. You have permission to buy or cook
something else.

https://www.waitrose.com/ecom/shop/search?&searchTerm=cheese

I ran out of pages of how many cheeses my local supermarket stocks.

The cheapest is comparable with the cheapest meat.

--
\"The great thing about Glasgow is that if there\'s a nuclear attack it\'ll
look exactly the same afterwards.\"

Billy Connolly

 

[Fredxx]

On 29/05/2023 15:13, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 29/05/2023 15:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 11:54:31 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 28/05/2023 22:36, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:41:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

It gradually gor better but some imported goods remained expensive
for a
long time.  Hitlers U-boats shagged the merchant fleets something
rotten.

Payback for the blockade of Germany that was enforced for 8 months
after
the Armistice was a bitch.

Well. Germany had sorta really started WWI, and bombed England, France
Belgium and IIRC Holland, so the Allies were somewhat pissed.
Then when Germany used all that as an excuse to start WWII, and made a
bloody fucking mess of most of Europe, and quite a lot of Africa and the
middle east, we did get pissed again.
We tolerate the USA\'s colonialism, because at the end of the day its
just business. Nothing against you injuns personally, we just want your
land to grow crops and herd beef on. Its the death and glory boys from
e.g. Russia we don\'t like.

I think that British and US \"colonialism\" were both net benefits to
the world. And, realistically, unavoidable.

The US natives now have anglo names, are literate, have horses and
houses and pickup trucks and beer and pizza and casinos and cataract
surgery. Few are voluntarily living off the land as hunter-gatherers.
Tribal warfare is now mostly on the internet.

The world hates Britain because, by and large, they were better off when
we were in charge.
The world hates Russia, because, by and large, they were worse off when
they were in charge.

Hmm, I guess you\'ll also say that some Scandinavian countries hate the
Germans because they are better off from the railways they built with
slave labour.

> It\'s all a matter of whether pride or reason dominates the pysche.

Or just prejudice and denial of the facts surrounding colonialism.

 

[Scott Lurndal]

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> writes:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 11:54:31 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 28/05/2023 22:36, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:41:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

It gradually gor better but some imported goods remained expensive for a
long time. Hitlers U-boats shagged the merchant fleets something
rotten.

Payback for the blockade of Germany that was enforced for 8 months after
the Armistice was a bitch.

Well. Germany had sorta really started WWI, and bombed England, France
Belgium and IIRC Holland, so the Allies were somewhat pissed.
Then when Germany used all that as an excuse to start WWII, and made a
bloody fucking mess of most of Europe, and quite a lot of Africa and the
middle east, we did get pissed again.
We tolerate the USA\'s colonialism, because at the end of the day its
just business. Nothing against you injuns personally, we just want your
land to grow crops and herd beef on. Its the death and glory boys from
e.g. Russia we don\'t like.

I think that British and US \"colonialism\" were both net benefits to
the world. And, realistically, unavoidable.

I disagree. European colonialism competition has directly
led to the modern state of affairs in the middle east, far east
and southern hemisphere. And it continues with with the Russian
invasion of Ukraine today.

Nobody can predict what North America would currently be
in an alternate history where Colonialism didn\'t exist.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 29 May 2023 15:13:05 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 29/05/2023 15:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 11:54:31 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 28/05/2023 22:36, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:41:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

It gradually gor better but some imported goods remained expensive for a
long time. Hitlers U-boats shagged the merchant fleets something
rotten.

Payback for the blockade of Germany that was enforced for 8 months after
the Armistice was a bitch.

Well. Germany had sorta really started WWI, and bombed England, France
Belgium and IIRC Holland, so the Allies were somewhat pissed.
Then when Germany used all that as an excuse to start WWII, and made a
bloody fucking mess of most of Europe, and quite a lot of Africa and the
middle east, we did get pissed again.
We tolerate the USA\'s colonialism, because at the end of the day its
just business. Nothing against you injuns personally, we just want your
land to grow crops and herd beef on. Its the death and glory boys from
e.g. Russia we don\'t like.

I think that British and US \"colonialism\" were both net benefits to
the world. And, realistically, unavoidable.

The US natives now have anglo names, are literate, have horses and
houses and pickup trucks and beer and pizza and casinos and cataract
surgery. Few are voluntarily living off the land as hunter-gatherers.
Tribal warfare is now mostly on the internet.

The world hates Britain because, by and large, they were better off when
we were in charge.

I don\'t think the world hates Britain. As someone recently said,
Broken English is the most popular language on Earth.

The world hates Russia, because, by and large, they were worse off when
they were in charge.

Russia is an outlier in many ways. Pity, it should have been another
nice, bland, prosperous european country. It\'s locked into a bad
state.

It\'s all a matter of whether pride or reason dominates the pysche.

The US is interesting. There is no racial majority in my part of the
country. Everybody is drinking with and sleeping with and having kids
with everyone else. Diffusion has mostly defeated tribalism and
racism. Eventually all of earth will be genetically homogenized.

 

[Fredxx]

On 29/05/2023 15:57, Scott Lurndal wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> writes:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 11:54:31 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 28/05/2023 22:36, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:41:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

It gradually gor better but some imported goods remained expensive for a
long time. Hitlers U-boats shagged the merchant fleets something
rotten.

Payback for the blockade of Germany that was enforced for 8 months after
the Armistice was a bitch.

Well. Germany had sorta really started WWI, and bombed England, France
Belgium and IIRC Holland, so the Allies were somewhat pissed.
Then when Germany used all that as an excuse to start WWII, and made a
bloody fucking mess of most of Europe, and quite a lot of Africa and the
middle east, we did get pissed again.
We tolerate the USA\'s colonialism, because at the end of the day its
just business. Nothing against you injuns personally, we just want your
land to grow crops and herd beef on. Its the death and glory boys from
e.g. Russia we don\'t like.

I think that British and US \"colonialism\" were both net benefits to
the world. And, realistically, unavoidable.

I disagree. European colonialism competition has directly
led to the modern state of affairs in the middle east, far east
and southern hemisphere. And it continues with with the Russian
invasion of Ukraine today.

Nobody can predict what North America would currently be
in an alternate history where Colonialism didn\'t exist.

After my earlier post I was thinking along similar lines. African
countries were carved up with convenient borders. However many tribes
would have long standing issues with the neighbours such that a stable
government was never going to happen.

One genocide comes to mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide

Of course we could blame the Belgians for that. Some myopic people will
still bury their head and say colonialism was good for Africa!

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 29 May 2023 14:57:41 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> writes:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 11:54:31 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 28/05/2023 22:36, rbowman wrote:
On Sun, 28 May 2023 09:41:30 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

It gradually gor better but some imported goods remained expensive for a
long time. Hitlers U-boats shagged the merchant fleets something
rotten.

Payback for the blockade of Germany that was enforced for 8 months after
the Armistice was a bitch.

Well. Germany had sorta really started WWI, and bombed England, France
Belgium and IIRC Holland, so the Allies were somewhat pissed.
Then when Germany used all that as an excuse to start WWII, and made a
bloody fucking mess of most of Europe, and quite a lot of Africa and the
middle east, we did get pissed again.
We tolerate the USA\'s colonialism, because at the end of the day its
just business. Nothing against you injuns personally, we just want your
land to grow crops and herd beef on. Its the death and glory boys from
e.g. Russia we don\'t like.

I think that British and US \"colonialism\" were both net benefits to
the world. And, realistically, unavoidable.

I disagree. European colonialism competition has directly
led to the modern state of affairs in the middle east, far east
and southern hemisphere. And it continues with with the Russian
invasion of Ukraine today.

The modern state of affairs is that most of the world has electricity,
literacy, science, food, medicine, travel, womens and minority rights,
and choices in life. All that descended from the Greeks and
disseminated through colonialism.

The power provided by modern civilization has lagged the morality -
jeeps and guns are ahead of democracy in many places now - but things
will eventually smooth out.

Nobody can predict what North America would currently be
in an alternate history where Colonialism didn\'t exist.

It would look like it had looked for 20,000 years or so.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 27 May 2023 04:06:16 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 02:50:35 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 00:52:59 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 11:40:48 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

We no longer have Safeway. When Albertson\'s bought the chain they had to
divest themselves of the Safeway stores in Missoula which became Fresh
Markets which were recently bought by Yokes. The changes were minimal as
far as I can tell.

We had a Lucky\'s Market that lasted two years. Tidyman\'s was another
option but losing a $6.3 million sexual discrimination suit put the chain
out of business.

Why the fuck is $6.3 million require to shut up some lesbians?

Tough market. When I used to travel I was amazed at how much cheaper food
was in LA, Phoenix, Seattle or other major markets.

\"The Love that dare not speak its name\" is now \"The Love that won\'t
shut up.\"

No woman ever shuts up. We are yet to discover the faulty gene to switch off.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Thu, 25 May 2023 04:01:56 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2023 18:49:02 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 18:46:32 +0100, Cindy Hamilton
hamilton@invalid.com> wrote:

On 2023-04-22, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com
wrote:

Same here in California. Most stores don\'t even offer the silly Kraft
goo, and have a huge range of local and imported cheeses, often with
advice and samples offered.

\"Most stores\" where you are, perhaps. I bet there are places in rural
and suburban California that have the full panoply of crappy Kraft
cheeses.
And worse.

The Safeway in Oakland has Kraft singles, spray cheese, Cheez Whiz, the
whole nine yards.

Is American Safeway the same as British Safeway which became Morrisons

It was at one time. Argyll bought the British subsidiary in 1987. They
were in trouble in the \'80s and sold off a lot of their operations. Most
of what was left was in the western US. Albertsons bought them in 2015..

In this city there were both Albertsons and Safeway markets but Albertsons
had to divest themselves of the physical Safeway stores. In a town north
of here there was only a Safeway so it stayed Safeway. It\'s confusing. The
last time I was there some items were cheaper if you had a card. I happen
to have one that I got in Colorado. Albertsons used to have a card but
dropped it years ago.

I wish they\'d just make the goods cheaper instead of fucking with cards and vouchers. Tesco in the UK is nuts, they have two similar things of different brands for £1.50 each, and one week one is reduced to £1 if you have a card, then next week the other one. No idea why they do it, but it fucks up their stock as one always runs out and the other goes past the sell by date.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 29 May 2023 15:28:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 29/05/2023 15:22, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 14:56:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 29/05/2023 14:45, John Larkin wrote:
The USA is more than Kraft now.

Only took them 500 years.

\"Them\" ?
Merkins

What a nasty person you are. Is that standard in the UK?

The USA defines a rectangle 4000 x 5000 miles. It\'s land area is 4
million square miles with 50 states, 330 million people, a zillion
cultures and climates and cuisines, glaciers to high desert, and 20K
miles of coastline.

And you obviously stereotype it. That\'s sure easy.

Please stay where you are and we\'ll all be happy.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 29 May 2023 16:57:58 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 04:06:16 +0100, John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 May 2023 02:50:35 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sun, 23 Apr 2023 00:52:59 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 11:40:48 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Safeway is for bulk shopping, milk and paper towels. Their rotesserie
chickens are OK and make great broth.

We no longer have Safeway. When Albertson\'s bought the chain they had to
divest themselves of the Safeway stores in Missoula which became Fresh
Markets which were recently bought by Yokes. The changes were minimal as
far as I can tell.

We had a Lucky\'s Market that lasted two years. Tidyman\'s was another
option but losing a $6.3 million sexual discrimination suit put the chain
out of business.

Why the fuck is $6.3 million require to shut up some lesbians?

Tough market. When I used to travel I was amazed at how much cheaper food
was in LA, Phoenix, Seattle or other major markets.

\"The Love that dare not speak its name\" is now \"The Love that won\'t
shut up.\"

No woman ever shuts up. We are yet to discover the faulty gene to switch off.

You should meet a better class of women. Try.

 

[Peeler]

On Mon, 29 May 2023 09:05:12 -0700, John Larkin, another obviously
braindead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:


> You should meet a better class of women. Try.

That gay wanker can\'t make good with ANY woman, that\'s why he comes here to
get sucked off by you troll-feeding senile assholes!

 

[Bev]

On Mon, 29 May 2023 09:00:41 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 29 May 2023 15:28:25 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 29/05/2023 15:22, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 29 May 2023 14:56:37 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 29/05/2023 14:45, John Larkin wrote:
The USA is more than Kraft now.

Only took them 500 years.

\"Them\" ?
Merkins


What a nasty person you are. Is that standard in the UK?

Most certainly not.

And you obviously stereotype it. That\'s sure easy.

TNP does like to be quite an objectionable person, and has decided he has
killfiled me so will miss this. As an aside why do those who \'Plonk\'
think it has any effect on the poster?

Please stay where you are and we\'ll all be happy.

Sorry to disagree here but... are you sure you couldn\'t find a home
somewhere in your rather large \'forgotten areas\'. I for one would be
quite happy for him to find a new home where he can continue to expound
his vast \'knowledge\' to the few who still believe he has great knowledge
and experience in just about anything you can name.