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[Sjouke Burry]

Marco Licetti wrote:

HP/AGILENT 432A

Marco ,leaving your shit for people to stumble over?

 

RG-174 and the car antenna has a smaller

General Specifications
Outer Diameter 0.110 inches Center Conductor Solid
Impedance 50 Ohm Outer Conductor Braid
Velocity of Prop. 66% Jacket Black PVC

my netmind buckles after 3 days of channel 17

have you opened the ant. box yet?

 

siriusweb stepped on a lndmine-
not even a spec sheet!!
appliance mentality:
does it come in green?

 

have you opened the ant. box yet?
i'm always paranoid on the chances the manufacturer epoxied the cover's

bottom to the component's top.

today, i heard that a home helix is the hot antennae setup.

 

[bobandcarole]

bobandcarole wrote:

Secret Squirrel wrote:
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Feminazi Cuntkins <jaezaebael@gmail.com> wrote in
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On 13 Sep 2006 20:33:01 -0000, someone calling themselves
Cary Kittrell <anon@comments.header>wrote:

It started out one day in the summer. Dave had answered an
ad I had placed.

The plot's pedestrian, and the language unimaginative.
While I generally prefer writing that's light on the
adverbs, the author does not have the technical expertise
to use this spare style competently.

FNC, though no typos, an accomplishment for one-handed
typing.

Though the word-wrapping leaves a lot to be desired. I guess
we just can't have everything.

Say, did ya notice?--B&C shows up on 'alt.education', and
SHORTLY THEREAFTER what follows are forgeries followed by an
appearance of one "Marc Good", who's emailed me offering to
send me child porn pics (I told him to get lost) and who
interchangeably shows up in B&C threads.

I mean, is that a coincidence, or what?

Is it a coincidence that the lying pedophile is also at the scene of
the crime?
Since it has used remailers in the past it's not out of the question
that it is using them again.
Check the asbl archives and while you're at it, check his psycho-pedo
buddy orion.

Birds of a feather..............

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[Eeyore]

Neil Green wrote:

"Eeyore"
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Neil Green wrote:

This may be the wrong group but I figure
electronics
is kinda universal, and the good people here have
helped me before.
I have a constant high pitched hum coming from the
internal PC speaker, the one connected to the
motherboard.
The connector is oriented correctly.
At first it was intermittent but now is constant,
so
I've pulled the lead off to disable the speaker.
The PC is running perfectly, and I can't find any
information on this problem with Google, except
that
apparently a batch of HP computers (which this one
isn't) apparently had a similar problem caused by a
leaky rectifier on the motherboard.
Does anyone have any ideas?

See if there's a group for HP PCs ?

This cerainly isn't an audio question.

Graham

It's not a HP, and I'm sorry if this is the wrong
group but I figured that hum from a speaker is audio.
I know this group is mainly concerned with hi-fi stuff
but I don't know where else to ask.

sci.electronics.repair and sci.electronics.basics come to mind.

Please do crosspost and don't multipost btw.

Sod it, I'll do it myself.

Graham

 

Neil Green wrote:

This may be the wrong group but I figure
electronics
is kinda universal, and the good people here have
helped me before.
I have a constant high pitched hum coming from the
internal PC speaker, the one connected to the
motherboard.
The connector is oriented correctly.
At first it was intermittent but now is constant,
so
I've pulled the lead off to disable the speaker.
The PC is running perfectly, and I can't find any
information on this problem with Google, except
that
apparently a batch of HP computers (which this one
isn't) apparently had a similar problem caused by a
leaky rectifier on the motherboard.
Does anyone have any ideas?

Most common cause is the audio ground connection coming adrift in the
connecting lead/plugs/sockets, in the lead from pc to speakers. A
multimeter will check this lead. Much less common is a bad suppply
electrolytic.

NT

 

[Michael Kennedy]

I believe he is speaking abou the internal pc speaker not the sound card and
external speakers.

- Mike

<meow2222@care2.com> wrote in message
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Neil Green wrote:

This may be the wrong group but I figure
electronics
is kinda universal, and the good people here have
helped me before.
I have a constant high pitched hum coming from the
internal PC speaker, the one connected to the
motherboard.
The connector is oriented correctly.
At first it was intermittent but now is constant,
so
I've pulled the lead off to disable the speaker.
The PC is running perfectly, and I can't find any
information on this problem with Google, except
that
apparently a batch of HP computers (which this one
isn't) apparently had a similar problem caused by a
leaky rectifier on the motherboard.
Does anyone have any ideas?

Most common cause is the audio ground connection coming adrift in the
connecting lead/plugs/sockets, in the lead from pc to speakers. A
multimeter will check this lead. Much less common is a bad suppply
electrolytic.

NT

 

[Laurence Payne]

On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 02:28:12 -0400, "Michael Kennedy"
<Mikek400@remthis.comcast.net> wrote:

I believe he is speaking abou the internal pc speaker not the sound card and
external speakers.

What, that little buzzer that does the "beep" when you start up? Sure,
throw it away.

 

[b]

DCA ha escrito:

b wrote:
DCA ha escrito:

Big Mc wrote:
I need a cheap and cheerful 28" widescreen tv mine has just gone bang anyone
know of any high street offers on at the momentI just want something to tide
me over till I can afford something better.
thanks in advance


Consider a 32" ?
Check out this bargain
http://www.dixons.co.uk/product.php?sku=608024

Ł60 for a grundig

..except that it aint really a Grundig. since the company went under a
couple of years back, that name has been bought and stuck on all kinds
of cheap crap. I think those sets are now made by Orion.
-B.


And? So what? Orion make the CRT tubes for many major manufacturers anyway.
Grundig were hardly the name of quality and reliability when they were
in business so no change.

I'd be interested to know how you arrived at that conclusion. On the
contrary, Grundig actually purposely used higher spec parts in many of
their TV sets thus reducing the returns rate. I and many other techs I
have spoken to over the years, have found their boards and modular
design, especially in the models up till the mid 1990s, extremely
straighforward to work on and well enginnered. By and large extremely
good sets and reliable too. of course all that came at a price....
Unfortunately due to cheapskate people preferring to buy the lowest
priced sets around regardless of reliability, they couldn't compete
against the turkish and chinese stuff and went under.
In the last few years, even once good manufacturers like JVC and
Hitachi have followed and only seem to be making their own units of 25"
and up or in a higher price bracket. They have their 14" and 21" sets
made by the low cost manufacturers to stay in the market. Bottom line :
You get what you pay for in electronics.
-B.

 

[Bart Bervoets]

Is this so cheap nowadays?
Seems we have to stop the chinese asap.

Bart Bervoets

 

[bomberbob]

Mr. Lee Wrote:

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
Greetings,--

-
HUH? This is really new set, ATC113 chassis came out last year,
based
on CTC203 with number of changes to it.

The 3 strikes and out usually is caused by bad flyback but your works
fine afterwards, I would suspect looking in I2C bus realated stuff
start with I/O & PIP module card.

ATC113 service manual is a MUST. The signals paths winds back and
forth through this PIP/AV module twice. I really cussed at it.

Oh, FIRST PLEASE check that small coil on a rod that goes between
horizontal transformer driver and base of the horizontal transistor
(HOT) has glue removed and soldered. This also causes 3 strikes and
out if just right. Yes, there was few ATC113s with this glue on this
coil like the CTC203 commonly has on L14401.

Cheers,

Wizard-

Not much on the RCA model F32718 here.
My son has one that just died. Press the power button, the LED blinks a
couple of times, and it goes out. I have not taken the back off yet to
look, I wanted to gather ideas on what to look for first. This glued
coil is the first thing on my list, anything else? TVs are not my
specialty, computers are. No sound, no video, no relay clicking, no
nothing but a blinking LED. Processor board or something?




--
bomberbob

 

[bobandcarole]

BusyGuy wrote:
p78943@dcemail.com wrote:

Poor bugger is dying from cancer but they still charge him for
incidents way back in 1989

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/exlabor-senator-on-childsex-charges
/2006/09/15/1157827152706.html

Why shouldn't this piece of shit pay for his crimes against children?
He should pay before the piece of shit dies. You fucking pedophiles are
unreal, you jump up in sympathy for a slimey pedophile, but I don't see
any sympathy for the young boys he raped. You talk about fucking
boylove but when a kid gets raped, all you think about is the wellbeing
of a child sex offender! Get real will you!
http://acme-cleaning-services.blogspot.com/

The 'boy-lovers' claim to have the boys best interests at heart but it
always involves fucking them in the ass.

Those Aussie descendants of prison bitches are still freaks...........

 

[DCA]

b wrote:

DCA ha escrito:

b wrote:
DCA ha escrito:

Big Mc wrote:
I need a cheap and cheerful 28" widescreen tv mine has just gone bang anyone
know of any high street offers on at the momentI just want something to tide
me over till I can afford something better.
thanks in advance


Consider a 32" ?
Check out this bargain
http://www.dixons.co.uk/product.php?sku=608024

Ł60 for a grundig
..except that it aint really a Grundig. since the company went under a
couple of years back, that name has been bought and stuck on all kinds
of cheap crap. I think those sets are now made by Orion.
-B.

And? So what? Orion make the CRT tubes for many major manufacturers anyway.
Grundig were hardly the name of quality and reliability when they were
in business so no change.

I'd be interested to know how you arrived at that conclusion. On the
contrary, Grundig actually purposely used higher spec parts in many of
their TV sets thus reducing the returns rate. I and many other techs I
have spoken to over the years, have found their boards and modular
design, especially in the models up till the mid 1990s, extremely
straighforward to work on and well enginnered. By and large extremely
good sets and reliable too. of course all that came at a price....
Unfortunately due to cheapskate people preferring to buy the lowest
priced sets around regardless of reliability, they couldn't compete
against the turkish and chinese stuff and went under.
In the last few years, even once good manufacturers like JVC and
Hitachi have followed and only seem to be making their own units of 25"
and up or in a higher price bracket. They have their 14" and 21" sets
made by the low cost manufacturers to stay in the market. Bottom line :
You get what you pay for in electronics.
-B.

There's alot I do and I do not agree with in your statement but can't
argue forever or be bothered to pick each bit apart - except that I have
consistently found JVC to be crap. 2x VCR's died - one at 13m and the
other at 19m. a 24" TV, red tinge crept in and again - out of warranty.
JVC customer care - none existent.
Local TV repairer stated he regularly has colour balance issues with
JVC's - far more than any other brand (and that included the likes of
Matsui!).

 

[Wonderer]

"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole444@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158562643.605115.17050@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

BusyGuy wrote:
p78943@dcemail.com wrote:

Poor bugger is dying from cancer but they still charge him for
incidents way back in 1989

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/exlabor-senator-on-childsex-charges
/2006/09/15/1157827152706.html


Why shouldn't this piece of shit pay for his crimes against children?
He should pay before the piece of shit dies. You fucking pedophiles are
unreal, you jump up in sympathy for a slimey pedophile, but I don't see
any sympathy for the young boys he raped. You talk about fucking
boylove but when a kid gets raped, all you think about is the wellbeing
of a child sex offender! Get real will you!
http://acme-cleaning-services.blogspot.com/

The 'boy-lovers' claim to have the boys best interests at heart but it

true

always involves fucking them in the ass.

false

Those Aussie descendants of prison bitches are still freaks...........

 

[bobandcarole kicking ass]

Wonderer wrote:

"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole444@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158562643.605115.17050@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

BusyGuy wrote:
p78943@dcemail.com wrote:

Poor bugger is dying from cancer but they still charge him for
incidents way back in 1989

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/exlabor-senator-on-childsex-charges
/2006/09/15/1157827152706.html


Why shouldn't this piece of shit pay for his crimes against children?
He should pay before the piece of shit dies. You fucking pedophiles are
unreal, you jump up in sympathy for a slimey pedophile, but I don't see
any sympathy for the young boys he raped. You talk about fucking
boylove but when a kid gets raped, all you think about is the wellbeing
of a child sex offender! Get real will you!
http://acme-cleaning-services.blogspot.com/

The 'boy-lovers' claim to have the boys best interests at heart but it

true
always involves fucking them in the ass.

false

Did I forget sucking them off or the pedo brain washing?

Those Aussie descendants of prison bitches are still freaks...........

 

[Ronald 'More-More' Moshki]

is it not something of horror to think about what bob did to his
"houseboy"?


bobandcarole kicking ass daily wrote:

Wonderer wrote:
"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole444@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158562643.605115.17050@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

BusyGuy wrote:
p78943@dcemail.com wrote:

Poor bugger is dying from cancer but they still charge him for
incidents way back in 1989

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/exlabor-senator-on-childsex-charges
/2006/09/15/1157827152706.html


Why shouldn't this piece of shit pay for his crimes against children?
He should pay before the piece of shit dies. You fucking pedophiles are
unreal, you jump up in sympathy for a slimey pedophile, but I don't see
any sympathy for the young boys he raped. You talk about fucking
boylove but when a kid gets raped, all you think about is the wellbeing
of a child sex offender! Get real will you!
http://acme-cleaning-services.blogspot.com/

The 'boy-lovers' claim to have the boys best interests at heart but it

true
always involves fucking them in the ass.

false

Did I forget sucking them off or the pedo brain washing?


Those Aussie descendants of prison bitches are still freaks...........

 

[bobandcarole]

Ronald 'More-More' Moshki babbled:

is it not something of horror to think about what bob did to his
"houseboy"?

LOL...still living in your fantasy world, little ronnie???

bobandcarole kicking ass daily wrote:
Wonderer wrote:
"bobandcarole" <bobandcarole444@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158562643.605115.17050@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

BusyGuy wrote:
p78943@dcemail.com wrote:

Poor bugger is dying from cancer but they still charge him for
incidents way back in 1989

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/exlabor-senator-on-childsex-charges
/2006/09/15/1157827152706.html


Why shouldn't this piece of shit pay for his crimes against children?
He should pay before the piece of shit dies. You fucking pedophiles are
unreal, you jump up in sympathy for a slimey pedophile, but I don't see
any sympathy for the young boys he raped. You talk about fucking
boylove but when a kid gets raped, all you think about is the wellbeing
of a child sex offender! Get real will you!
http://acme-cleaning-services.blogspot.com/

The 'boy-lovers' claim to have the boys best interests at heart but it

true
always involves fucking them in the ass.

false

Did I forget sucking them off or the pedo brain washing?


Those Aussie descendants of prison bitches are still freaks...........

 

[bobandcarole]

bobandcarole kicking ass daily wrote:

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I would like to discuss the subject of boy prostitutes. Should we use
them or is that plain wrong?

A more experience boylover friend of mine has showed me where the rent
boys are in my city. I was surprised to see that there were a lot of
them. Before I could not tell prostitutes from ordinary kids and young
men hanging out, but once I learned where and how to look I realised
there are boys for hire all over the place. Some of them are very
tempting.

I looked around for them this last weekend. A couple of cute enough
teenage boys were on a street corner, posing and showing off to those
passers-by who cared to notice. But I felt they were dangerous,
perhaps being drug addicts.

But another kid was sitting outside a park. He had positioned himself
so that passing cars could see him, make a u-turn and come back to
pick him up. He looked to be around 15-16, he was clean and had a
cool and experienced look on his face. I spoke briefly to him, gave
him a little money for food and left. As long as I was within eye
contact range he kept giving me the "look", hoping I would hire him.

Another kid was hanging out near a McDonald's. At first I thought he
was too young and innocent to be for hire. But he was in the company
of an older boy who seemed to be instructing the younger one in the
tricks of the trade. Noticing my glance the younger one became visibly
exited or perhaps nervous, he could no longer sit still. This kid was
14 or so, a beautiful boy dressed in tight jeans. His body was
perfectly slim, his butt gorgeous, his face open and friendly. I was
very tempted, but there were too many people around and I decided
could not risk it. But as I was leaving I again looked at the boy and
his older instructor wispered something in his ear. The kid rose and
came running over to me, saying hi and asking me where I was going. I
smiled at him, noticing an erection suddenly developing in my pants. I
said I was going home. Can I go with you, asked the kid. I said sorry,
he could not. Visibly disappointed he went back to his "mentor".

So I went home to wank alone with fantasies about what that boy would
have been like in bed. Unlike many of the other youths in that
location I had a feeling that he liked me and would be happy if I had
chosen him. He was not like the hardened, more or less criminal boys
there are so many of. And he seemed to be gay, always a great plus
when compared to all those straight boys who can hardly bring
themselves to touch a man even for money.

So what would YOU have done if you were in my pants? Is there such a
thing as a happy hooker? I have always felt sorry for prostitutes,
thinking their profession will ruin their emotional life and their
ability to have any true relationship. So far I have only been
window-shopping. I feel I should not use the power of my money to get
boys to bed. And then there is the possibility of violence and STD's
and police trouble - for both boy and customer. Also, the risk of
getting caught is small but never zero. But the main question is,
should I listen to my guilt or to my sexual desire?
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teenlove...@hotmail.com (TeenLoveMan) wrote in
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I would like to discuss the subject of boy prostitutes.
Should we use them or is that plain wrong?
=20
A more experience boylover friend of mine has showed me
where the rent boys are in my city. I was surprised to see
that there were a lot of them. Before I could not tell
prostitutes from ordinary kids and young men hanging out,
but once I learned where and how to look I realised there
are boys for hire all over the place. Some of them are very=20
tempting.
=20
I looked around for them this last weekend. A couple of
cute enough teenage boys were on a street corner, posing
and showing off to those passers-by who cared to notice.
But I felt they were dangerous, perhaps being drug addicts.
=20
But another kid was sitting outside a park. He had
positioned himself so that passing cars could see him, make
a u-turn and come back to pick him up. He looked to be
around 15-16, he was clean and had a cool and experienced
look on his face. I spoke briefly to him, gave him a little
money for food and left. As long as I was within eye=20
contact range he kept giving me the "look", hoping I would
hire him.=20
=20
Another kid was hanging out near a McDonald's. At first I
thought he was too young and innocent to be for hire. But
he was in the company of an older boy who seemed to be
instructing the younger one in the tricks of the trade.
Noticing my glance the younger one became visibly exited or
perhaps nervous, he could no longer sit still. This kid was=20
14 or so, a beautiful boy dressed in tight jeans. His body
was perfectly slim, his butt gorgeous, his face open and
friendly. I was very tempted, but there were too many
people around and I decided could not risk it. But as I was
leaving I again looked at the boy and his older instructor
wispered something in his ear. The kid rose and came
running over to me, saying hi and asking me where I was
going. I smiled at him, noticing an erection suddenly
developing in my pants. I said I was going home. Can I go
with you, asked the kid. I said sorry, he could not.
Visibly disappointed he went back to his "mentor".=20
=20
So I went home to wank alone with fantasies about what that
boy would have been like in bed. Unlike many of the other
youths in that location I had a feeling that he liked me
and would be happy if I had chosen him. He was not like the
hardened, more or less criminal boys there are so many of.
And he seemed to be gay, always a great plus when compared
to all those straight boys who can hardly bring themselves
to touch a man even for money.=20
=20
So what would YOU have done if you were in my pants? Is
there such a thing as a happy hooker? I have always felt
sorry for prostitutes, thinking their profession will ruin
their emotional life and their ability to have any true
relationship. So far I have only been window-shopping. I
feel I should not use the power of my money to get boys to
bed. And then there is the possibility of violence and
STD's and police trouble =96 for both boy and customer. Also,
the risk of getting caught is small but never zero. But the
main question is, should I listen to my guilt or to my
sexual desire?=20

I think that you've hit on all the major concerns.=20
When I was younger, I recall the boy and men prostitutes
who both hung around either the downtown areas or hung
around the local gay bar where I lived. Some of the boys=20
even had a name for it: "queering", they called it. Let=20
me also warn you that there's the risk of petty crime--
some boys might want to "scope" your place out for a later
break-in, and you'll be pretty much out of luck--you
probably won't want to call the police to report it,
now would you?

As to whether it's "wrong" or not, that's a more
complicated question. I would think that you might,
in the best cases, become a much-needed friend to
some boys who might desperately need one, sex or no.
OTH, this avocation of theirs is a dead-end one, as
you correctly judge. They need to be focusing on their
eduction, not on tricks. And it's risky to you and
them.

Best of luck in whatever you decide.

Secret Squirrel

 

[Ronald 'More-More' Moshki]

bob is going to Siam very soon, which is the setting of this story.



bobandcarole wrote:

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Subject: Boy prostitutes - to use them or not
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I would like to discuss the subject of boy prostitutes. Should we use
them or is that plain wrong?

A more experience boylover friend of mine has showed me where the rent
boys are in my city. I was surprised to see that there were a lot of
them. Before I could not tell prostitutes from ordinary kids and young
men hanging out, but once I learned where and how to look I realised
there are boys for hire all over the place. Some of them are very
tempting.

I looked around for them this last weekend. A couple of cute enough
teenage boys were on a street corner, posing and showing off to those
passers-by who cared to notice. But I felt they were dangerous,
perhaps being drug addicts.

But another kid was sitting outside a park. He had positioned himself
so that passing cars could see him, make a u-turn and come back to
pick him up. He looked to be around 15-16, he was clean and had a
cool and experienced look on his face. I spoke briefly to him, gave
him a little money for food and left. As long as I was within eye
contact range he kept giving me the "look", hoping I would hire him.

Another kid was hanging out near a McDonald's. At first I thought he
was too young and innocent to be for hire. But he was in the company
of an older boy who seemed to be instructing the younger one in the
tricks of the trade. Noticing my glance the younger one became visibly
exited or perhaps nervous, he could no longer sit still. This kid was
14 or so, a beautiful boy dressed in tight jeans. His body was
perfectly slim, his butt gorgeous, his face open and friendly. I was
very tempted, but there were too many people around and I decided
could not risk it. But as I was leaving I again looked at the boy and
his older instructor wispered something in his ear. The kid rose and
came running over to me, saying hi and asking me where I was going. I
smiled at him, noticing an erection suddenly developing in my pants. I
said I was going home. Can I go with you, asked the kid. I said sorry,
he could not. Visibly disappointed he went back to his "mentor".

So I went home to wank alone with fantasies about what that boy would
have been like in bed. Unlike many of the other youths in that
location I had a feeling that he liked me and would be happy if I had
chosen him. He was not like the hardened, more or less criminal boys
there are so many of. And he seemed to be gay, always a great plus
when compared to all those straight boys who can hardly bring
themselves to touch a man even for money.

So what would YOU have done if you were in my pants? Is there such a
thing as a happy hooker? I have always felt sorry for prostitutes,
thinking their profession will ruin their emotional life and their
ability to have any true relationship. So far I have only been
window-shopping. I feel I should not use the power of my money to get
boys to bed. And then there is the possibility of violence and STD's
and police trouble - for both boy and customer. Also, the risk of
getting caught is small but never zero. But the main question is,
should I listen to my guilt or to my sexual desire?
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teenlove...@hotmail.com (TeenLoveMan) wrote in
news:345aab65.0211190155.106c12fa@posting.google.com:=20

I would like to discuss the subject of boy prostitutes.
Should we use them or is that plain wrong?
=20
A more experience boylover friend of mine has showed me
where the rent boys are in my city. I was surprised to see
that there were a lot of them. Before I could not tell
prostitutes from ordinary kids and young men hanging out,
but once I learned where and how to look I realised there
are boys for hire all over the place. Some of them are very=20
tempting.
=20
I looked around for them this last weekend. A couple of
cute enough teenage boys were on a street corner, posing
and showing off to those passers-by who cared to notice.
But I felt they were dangerous, perhaps being drug addicts.
=20
But another kid was sitting outside a park. He had
positioned himself so that passing cars could see him, make
a u-turn and come back to pick him up. He looked to be
around 15-16, he was clean and had a cool and experienced
look on his face. I spoke briefly to him, gave him a little
money for food and left. As long as I was within eye=20
contact range he kept giving me the "look", hoping I would
hire him.=20
=20
Another kid was hanging out near a McDonald's. At first I
thought he was too young and innocent to be for hire. But
he was in the company of an older boy who seemed to be
instructing the younger one in the tricks of the trade.
Noticing my glance the younger one became visibly exited or
perhaps nervous, he could no longer sit still. This kid was=20
14 or so, a beautiful boy dressed in tight jeans. His body
was perfectly slim, his butt gorgeous, his face open and
friendly. I was very tempted, but there were too many
people around and I decided could not risk it. But as I was
leaving I again looked at the boy and his older instructor
wispered something in his ear. The kid rose and came
running over to me, saying hi and asking me where I was
going. I smiled at him, noticing an erection suddenly
developing in my pants. I said I was going home. Can I go
with you, asked the kid. I said sorry, he could not.
Visibly disappointed he went back to his "mentor".=20
=20
So I went home to wank alone with fantasies about what that
boy would have been like in bed. Unlike many of the other
youths in that location I had a feeling that he liked me
and would be happy if I had chosen him. He was not like the
hardened, more or less criminal boys there are so many of.
And he seemed to be gay, always a great plus when compared
to all those straight boys who can hardly bring themselves
to touch a man even for money.=20
=20
So what would YOU have done if you were in my pants? Is
there such a thing as a happy hooker? I have always felt
sorry for prostitutes, thinking their profession will ruin
their emotional life and their ability to have any true
relationship. So far I have only been window-shopping. I
feel I should not use the power of my money to get boys to
bed. And then there is the possibility of violence and
STD's and police trouble =96 for both boy and customer. Also,
the risk of getting caught is small but never zero. But the
main question is, should I listen to my guilt or to my
sexual desire?=20

I think that you've hit on all the major concerns.=20
When I was younger, I recall the boy and men prostitutes
who both hung around either the downtown areas or hung
around the local gay bar where I lived. Some of the boys=20
even had a name for it: "queering", they called it. Let=20
me also warn you that there's the risk of petty crime--
some boys might want to "scope" your place out for a later
break-in, and you'll be pretty much out of luck--you
probably won't want to call the police to report it,
now would you?





As to whether it's "wrong" or not, that's a more
complicated question. I would think that you might,
in the best cases, become a much-needed friend to
some boys who might desperately need one, sex or no.
OTH, this avocation of theirs is a dead-end one, as
you correctly judge. They need to be focusing on their
eduction, not on tricks. And it's risky to you and
them.

Best of luck in whatever you decide.

Secret Squirrel