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On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 22:24:37 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/03/2022 10:04 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Mine was an Austin-Healy Sprite. Great fun with the top down,
mechanically barbaric, fairly easy to fix, which was good given the
frequency of breakdowns. Kept a tool box in the tiny truck.

Ah, memories. I had a \'62. No bug-eye charm, a slightly larger engine,
and the semi-adequate brakes from \'61. Sudden rain storms were a
problem. By the time you got the frame out of the trunk, installed it in
the sockets, stretched the top over it, retrieved the side curtains, and
put them in place, you might as well have kept driving.

Drive above 30 mph or so and the rain barely touches your hair. Just
don\'t stop.

Didn\'t need jumper cables. I could push it, jump in, and dump the
clutch to start it. When the clutch worked. I drove from Mt Tam,
across the GG bridge home, without a clutch. My Filipino GF was
impressed.

I ran out of gas a few blocks from home. The city streets were level, so
I got out, walked beside it and pushed it along with no problem. Until I
got to an intersection where a cop was directing traffic. \"Do you
always take your car for a walk?\" At least cops still had a sense of
humor then.

I once ran out of gas and coasted about a block into a gas station.
Really.



--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

 

[Phil Hobbs]

rbowman wrote:

On 06/03/2022 09:35 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
rbowman wrote:
On 06/02/2022 10:10 PM, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 2/6/22 23:43, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 20:36:47 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/01/2022 09:48 AM, bitrex wrote:
On 5/30/2022 1:56 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 20:20:21 UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2022 19:28:29 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Under the Tesla is Fast thread I posited the question of what the
speed would be of an EV run in the Cannonball Run (coast to coast
speed run). NO ONE answered! Not even the hardcore EV fanatics
who
know everything about EVERYTHING. So, I looked it up: the EV
record
for the Cannonball Run is held by a Tesla at 51 h 47 m with an
average speed of 56 mph:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/9/15938028/tesla-model-s-cannonball-run-record




The current fossil fuel record is HALF of that time at 25 h 39 m
with an average speed of 110 mph:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannonball_Run_challenge
You just don\'t appreciate the charm of insane acceleration
alternated
with frantic braking and then waiting a couple of hours to charge.
For
FREE!

Actually, the beauty of electric propulsion is that you get much
smoother acceleration and deceleration than with a conventional
vehicle.

In most circumstances I don\'t wait for the car to charge at all, it
charges while I\'m asleep or doing something else.

And you don\'t understand how hip it is to drive an ugly car that
occasionally locks you out and catches fire.

The aesthetics of many modern EVs are hardly distinguishable from
conventional vehicles as they have the same goals and we\'ve already
posted evidence that conventional vehicles are much more likely to
catch fire than EVs.
...
kw

It\'s unfair to single out EVs when most vehicles sold are pretty
ugly.

The crossover/CUV form factor seems particularly refractory to doing
anything very aesthetically pleasing with. How would you like your
rollerskate?

For my money some of the \'aggressive\' front end treatments look
like the
car was pre-wrecked.

And silly side creases. And random slabs of chrome. And bizarre rear
lights.

It is a spectacularly rare event that an American car company produces
anything even vaguely aesthetic. But then I have Italian cars in the
blood.

I had an Italian car in my blood when a friend rolled his Alfa Romeo.
50 years later a doctor remarked on the odd scars around my eye.

I had a Fiat Spyder briefly. It had to be admired for its aesthetics
since it rarely was operational. I got to like the Mustang loaner so
much I traded the Fiat for it.

My first car was a 1973 Fiat 128, which worked fine(*) till the rocker
panels  completely rusted out in 1981.

It lasted longer than the Yugos it sired... I didn\'t care much for
Clinton but bombing the Yugo factory was a plus in his ledger.


(*) For sufficiently-small values of \"fine\"--it blew a timing belt at
50k miles, taking out all eight valves.

Ah, interference engines.  The friend with a thing for Alfas was
rebuilding another one. DOHC driven by a chain with a tensioner that
could take your finger off if you released in incorrectly. He was an
excellent architect, a not so excellent mechanic and got the timing
marks wrong. At least it was still in the garage when it wiped the
valves out.

I\'d rebuilt one for a guy when I was in college. It was the only wet
liner engine I\'ve ever worked on. No oversized pistons, just replace the
whole liner/piston assembly.

SOHC engines are pretty easy to get right, even interference ones. DOHC
is another matter--you have to get all the slack on the tensioner side,
or else.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

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On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 22:32:45 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/03/2022 12:21 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:16:02 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/02/2022 07:43 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 20:36:47 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/01/2022 09:48 AM, bitrex wrote:
On 5/30/2022 1:56 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 20:20:21 UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2022 19:28:29 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Under the Tesla is Fast thread I posited the question of what the
speed would be of an EV run in the Cannonball Run (coast to coast
speed run). NO ONE answered! Not even the hardcore EV fanatics who
know everything about EVERYTHING. So, I looked it up: the EV record
for the Cannonball Run is held by a Tesla at 51 h 47 m with an
average speed of 56 mph:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/9/15938028/tesla-model-s-cannonball-run-record

The current fossil fuel record is HALF of that time at 25 h 39 m
with an average speed of 110 mph:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannonball_Run_challenge
You just don\'t appreciate the charm of insane acceleration alternated
with frantic braking and then waiting a couple of hours to charge. For
FREE!

Actually, the beauty of electric propulsion is that you get much
smoother acceleration and deceleration than with a conventional vehicle.

In most circumstances I don\'t wait for the car to charge at all, it
charges while I\'m asleep or doing something else.

And you don\'t understand how hip it is to drive an ugly car that
occasionally locks you out and catches fire.

The aesthetics of many modern EVs are hardly distinguishable from
conventional vehicles as they have the same goals and we\'ve already
posted evidence that conventional vehicles are much more likely to
catch fire than EVs.
...
kw

It\'s unfair to single out EVs when most vehicles sold are pretty ugly.

The crossover/CUV form factor seems particularly refractory to doing
anything very aesthetically pleasing with. How would you like your
rollerskate?

For my money some of the \'aggressive\' front end treatments look like the
car was pre-wrecked.

And silly side creases. And random slabs of chrome. And bizarre rear
lights.

Don\'t get me started on Volvos.




Someone at work drove a Subaru Forester. I knew the car but every time I
saw it I had to convince myself it hadn\'t been sideswiped. There was
something about the panels that looked bent.

Maybe a tree fell on it.


Never can tell around here. A friend was out getting firewood and
reasoned if he fell a tree on the upside of the road he could saw
lengths off and roll them down to the road. Worked well until one log
bounced off a rock, altered course, and took out the front quarter of
his pickup.

Youtube has lots of flics of idiots with chainsaws.

Our city version: we were driving uphill on Swiss Street and a
driverless recycling wheelie bin was screaming down the street at us.
Last second, it changed its mind and swerved into a parked car.

Around here there are a lot of comedy routines about the economics of
burning \'free\' firewood.

I just came back from three days up at the cabin in Truckee, one day
without power. Life is different without electricity.

A few cabins up the block, a tree fell in a windstorm. It slammed the
power line and sent a shock wave down the block. That propagated to us
and tugged on the roughly 100 foot tap-off from the street to our
cabin. It ripped the fascia off the roofline and dumped the power,
cable, and POTS wires on the ground.

I could model that in Spice.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lt38qw0yxrulr6v/AABtcYQNALQjZFqOfHV291dea?dl=0



--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

 

[rbowman]

On 06/03/2022 10:35 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

I once ran out of gas and coasted about a block into a gas station.
Really.

They only weighed 1500 pounds, not much rolling resistance. That\'s about
100 pounds less than a Smart clown car. There aren\'t many production
more or less road legal cars that weigh less other than the Lotus
7/Caterham/Westfield family. Even the Polaris Slingshot three wheeler
weighs more.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

rbowman wrote:

On 06/03/2022 10:35 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
I once ran out of gas and coasted about a block into a gas station.
Really.

They only weighed 1500 pounds, not much rolling resistance. That\'s about
100 pounds less than a Smart clown car. There aren\'t many production
more or less road legal cars that weigh less other than the Lotus
7/Caterham/Westfield family. Even the Polaris Slingshot three wheeler
weighs more.

My Fiat was about 1400 pounds, with a blistering 68 hp (not bad from an
1100 cc engine--about one hp per cube).

It was one of the earlier transverse engine FWD cars, so the back end
was very light--there was basically nothing back there. Occasionally
when I was liable to be late for class, I\'d find some impossibly tight
parking space, nose in, then climb out and lift the back of the car into
the spot. Got some funny looks.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

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On Sat, 4 Jun 2022 17:45:00 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

rbowman wrote:
On 06/03/2022 10:35 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
I once ran out of gas and coasted about a block into a gas station.
Really.

They only weighed 1500 pounds, not much rolling resistance. That\'s about
100 pounds less than a Smart clown car. There aren\'t many production
more or less road legal cars that weigh less other than the Lotus
7/Caterham/Westfield family. Even the Polaris Slingshot three wheeler
weighs more.

My Fiat was about 1400 pounds, with a blistering 68 hp (not bad from an
1100 cc engine--about one hp per cube).

It was one of the earlier transverse engine FWD cars, so the back end
was very light--there was basically nothing back there. Occasionally
when I was liable to be late for class, I\'d find some impossibly tight
parking space, nose in, then climb out and lift the back of the car into
the spot. Got some funny looks.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I was parked with a date one night, near a beach, and my Sprite was
stuck in the sand alongside the road. A few guys came along and lifted
it, and us, onto the pavement.

I weighed a bit less then, I\'m guessing.



--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

 

[rbowman]

On 06/04/2022 03:45 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

It was one of the earlier transverse engine FWD cars, so the back end
was very light--there was basically nothing back there. Occasionally
when I was liable to be late for class, I\'d find some impossibly tight
parking space, nose in, then climb out and lift the back of the car into
the spot. Got some funny looks.

The fans claim it was the progenitor of modern car designs but I still
give that honor to the Mini despite quibbles about the drive train
design. I liked to watch the Mini\'s running at Lime Rock. They could
embarrass much more powerful cars in the twisties. I like to think my
Yaris is closer to the concept of a cheap little box that could run like
a scalded cat than the upmarket Mini Coopers.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

rbowman wrote:

On 06/04/2022 03:45 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
It was one of the earlier transverse engine FWD cars, so the back end
was very light--there was basically nothing back there.  Occasionally
when I was liable to be late for class, I\'d find some impossibly tight
parking space, nose in, then climb out and lift the back of the car into
the spot.  Got some funny looks.

The fans claim it was the progenitor of modern car designs but I still
give that honor to the Mini  despite quibbles about the drive train
design. I liked to watch the Mini\'s running at Lime Rock. They could
embarrass much more powerful cars in the twisties. I like to think my
Yaris is closer to the concept of a cheap little box that could run like
a scalded cat than the upmarket Mini Coopers.

IIRC there was a small Audi that came out a bit before the 128, with the
same layout. Mine had a dash-mounted choke _and_ a dash-mounted
throttle, so you could do the Italian cruise control thing without
needing a cinder block to put on the gas pedal.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Ricky]

On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 5:45:12 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:

rbowman wrote:
On 06/03/2022 10:35 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
I once ran out of gas and coasted about a block into a gas station.
Really.

They only weighed 1500 pounds, not much rolling resistance. That\'s about
100 pounds less than a Smart clown car. There aren\'t many production
more or less road legal cars that weigh less other than the Lotus
7/Caterham/Westfield family. Even the Polaris Slingshot three wheeler
weighs more.
My Fiat was about 1400 pounds, with a blistering 68 hp (not bad from an
1100 cc engine--about one hp per cube).

It was one of the earlier transverse engine FWD cars, so the back end
was very light--there was basically nothing back there. Occasionally
when I was liable to be late for class, I\'d find some impossibly tight
parking space, nose in, then climb out and lift the back of the car into
the spot. Got some funny looks.

Did the Fiat have trouble with the exhaust system pulling apart from the motor torque? My Austin America did. Obviously, people slapped that car together without a thought of what might happen when you turn the engine 90 degrees.

It was not a bad car in other respects than it was British. British never made reliable cars. The US made crappy cars back then, but even US automakers laughed at British cars. Lucas electrics was enough to cripple any machine. It\'s always amazed me the Brits were able to hold off the Germans by building airplanes. Now, BEVs look like they will be the death of the Brits. They can\'t even keep their kettles hot, there\'s no way they can figure out how to span a 6 foot sidewalk to charge a car.

--

Rick C.

-++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[rbowman]

On 06/04/2022 09:06 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

IIRC there was a small Audi that came out a bit before the 128, with the
same layout. Mine had a dash-mounted choke _and_ a dash-mounted
throttle, so you could do the Italian cruise control thing without
needing a cinder block to put on the gas pedal.

I think the first Audi badged car was the F103 derived from a DKW by
replacing the 2 stroke with a 4 stroke longitudinal engine FWD. I don\'t
think it made it to the US. I bought a 100LS in \'71 and I think that was
the first US model before the smaller F80 Fox. It was longitudinal too.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/36535/this-1975-audi-100-has-a-rare-engine-layout-thats-uncommon-for-a-reason

https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-european/curbside-classic-1970-audi-100-ls-ingolstadts-table-setter/

The second link is much longer but has a view of the drive train.
Everything they say in both articles is true. I almost killed myself
before I got it sorted out. Not only was it the first FWD car I\'d driven
but the extremely nose heavy weight distribution meant it was happiest
going in a straight line, telephone poles and maple trees be damned. It
also had a number of electrical and mechanical issues. When we split my
wife got the Audi and I got the Lincoln. She later got a few hundred
bucks on a trade-in for a Rabbit which was a vast improvement.

I can only assume Audis have greatly improved. Oh, and there were the
ergonomic seats designed for somebody else\'s ergo. I\'ve driven
everything from a $35 \'51 Chevy on up to Kenworths and it was the most
uncomfortable thing of the pack.

I\'d really went in to buy a Porsche 914 but just sitting in one in the
showroom convinced me it wouldn\'t work so I wound up with the Audi. It
is telling that in \'71 it was a mid-sized executive car; today it would
barely make it into the compact class.

 

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On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 00:12:41 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/04/2022 09:06 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
IIRC there was a small Audi that came out a bit before the 128, with the
same layout. Mine had a dash-mounted choke _and_ a dash-mounted
throttle, so you could do the Italian cruise control thing without
needing a cinder block to put on the gas pedal.

I think the first Audi badged car was the F103 derived from a DKW by
replacing the 2 stroke with a 4 stroke longitudinal engine FWD. I don\'t
think it made it to the US. I bought a 100LS in \'71 and I think that was
the first US model before the smaller F80 Fox. It was longitudinal too.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/36535/this-1975-audi-100-has-a-rare-engine-layout-thats-uncommon-for-a-reason

https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-european/curbside-classic-1970-audi-100-ls-ingolstadts-table-setter/

The second link is much longer but has a view of the drive train.
Everything they say in both articles is true. I almost killed myself
before I got it sorted out. Not only was it the first FWD car I\'d driven
but the extremely nose heavy weight distribution meant it was happiest
going in a straight line, telephone poles and maple trees be damned. It
also had a number of electrical and mechanical issues. When we split my
wife got the Audi and I got the Lincoln. She later got a few hundred
bucks on a trade-in for a Rabbit which was a vast improvement.

I can only assume Audis have greatly improved. Oh, and there were the
ergonomic seats designed for somebody else\'s ergo. I\'ve driven
everything from a $35 \'51 Chevy on up to Kenworths and it was the most
uncomfortable thing of the pack.

I\'d really went in to buy a Porsche 914 but just sitting in one in the
showroom convinced me it wouldn\'t work so I wound up with the Audi. It
is telling that in \'71 it was a mid-sized executive car; today it would
barely make it into the compact class.

I think one of the first transverse-4 front-wheel drive cars was the
Austin America. Innvative but still British.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/austin-america

The 914 was a killer. The 914/6 would actually do a wheelie. During a
wheelie, it was hard to steer.

My MGs had a lot of oversteer (not power oversteer of course!) but
that was sort of controllable and kinda fun.



--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

 

[Phil Hobbs]

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 00:12:41 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/04/2022 09:06 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
IIRC there was a small Audi that came out a bit before the 128, with the
same layout. Mine had a dash-mounted choke _and_ a dash-mounted
throttle, so you could do the Italian cruise control thing without
needing a cinder block to put on the gas pedal.

I think the first Audi badged car was the F103 derived from a DKW by
replacing the 2 stroke with a 4 stroke longitudinal engine FWD. I don\'t
think it made it to the US. I bought a 100LS in \'71 and I think that was
the first US model before the smaller F80 Fox. It was longitudinal too.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/36535/this-1975-audi-100-has-a-rare-engine-layout-thats-uncommon-for-a-reason

https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-european/curbside-classic-1970-audi-100-ls-ingolstadts-table-setter/

The second link is much longer but has a view of the drive train.
Everything they say in both articles is true. I almost killed myself
before I got it sorted out. Not only was it the first FWD car I\'d driven
but the extremely nose heavy weight distribution meant it was happiest
going in a straight line, telephone poles and maple trees be damned. It
also had a number of electrical and mechanical issues. When we split my
wife got the Audi and I got the Lincoln. She later got a few hundred
bucks on a trade-in for a Rabbit which was a vast improvement.

I can only assume Audis have greatly improved. Oh, and there were the
ergonomic seats designed for somebody else\'s ergo. I\'ve driven
everything from a $35 \'51 Chevy on up to Kenworths and it was the most
uncomfortable thing of the pack.

I\'d really went in to buy a Porsche 914 but just sitting in one in the
showroom convinced me it wouldn\'t work so I wound up with the Audi. It
is telling that in \'71 it was a mid-sized executive car; today it would
barely make it into the compact class.

I think one of the first transverse-4 front-wheel drive cars was the
Austin America. Innvative but still British.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/austin-america

The 914 was a killer. The 914/6 would actually do a wheelie. During a
wheelie, it was hard to steer.

My MGs had a lot of oversteer (not power oversteer of course!) but
that was sort of controllable and kinda fun.

And of course leaked oil. Everything designed in England in the 1960s
was legally required to leak oil. The Concorde, the QE2, Triumphs, MGs,
Astons, tea pots, garden hosepipes, all of them.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
(Former Triumph owner)

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

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On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 12:15:18 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 00:12:41 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/04/2022 09:06 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
IIRC there was a small Audi that came out a bit before the 128, with the
same layout. Mine had a dash-mounted choke _and_ a dash-mounted
throttle, so you could do the Italian cruise control thing without
needing a cinder block to put on the gas pedal.

I think the first Audi badged car was the F103 derived from a DKW by
replacing the 2 stroke with a 4 stroke longitudinal engine FWD. I don\'t
think it made it to the US. I bought a 100LS in \'71 and I think that was
the first US model before the smaller F80 Fox. It was longitudinal too.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/36535/this-1975-audi-100-has-a-rare-engine-layout-thats-uncommon-for-a-reason

https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-european/curbside-classic-1970-audi-100-ls-ingolstadts-table-setter/

The second link is much longer but has a view of the drive train.
Everything they say in both articles is true. I almost killed myself
before I got it sorted out. Not only was it the first FWD car I\'d driven
but the extremely nose heavy weight distribution meant it was happiest
going in a straight line, telephone poles and maple trees be damned. It
also had a number of electrical and mechanical issues. When we split my
wife got the Audi and I got the Lincoln. She later got a few hundred
bucks on a trade-in for a Rabbit which was a vast improvement.

I can only assume Audis have greatly improved. Oh, and there were the
ergonomic seats designed for somebody else\'s ergo. I\'ve driven
everything from a $35 \'51 Chevy on up to Kenworths and it was the most
uncomfortable thing of the pack.

I\'d really went in to buy a Porsche 914 but just sitting in one in the
showroom convinced me it wouldn\'t work so I wound up with the Audi. It
is telling that in \'71 it was a mid-sized executive car; today it would
barely make it into the compact class.

I think one of the first transverse-4 front-wheel drive cars was the
Austin America. Innvative but still British.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/austin-america

The 914 was a killer. The 914/6 would actually do a wheelie. During a
wheelie, it was hard to steer.

My MGs had a lot of oversteer (not power oversteer of course!) but
that was sort of controllable and kinda fun.

And of course leaked oil. Everything designed in England in the 1960s
was legally required to leak oil. The Concorde, the QE2, Triumphs, MGs,
Astons, tea pots, garden hosepipes, all of them.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
(Former Triumph owner)

Honda made the amazing discovery that a motorcycle crankcase could be
split horizontally.

Yamaha and Honda bikes, myself.

We need a new pick-and-place machine. Our old Universal is getting
cranky and there is one guy in the USA that can fix it. We\'ll probably
get a Yamaha. They also make pianos, motorcycles, outboard motors,
offroad things, golf clubs, all sorts of stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRtawkNXj5E



--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

 

[rbowman]

On 06/05/2022 08:12 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

I think one of the first transverse-4 front-wheel drive cars was the
Austin America. Innvative but still British.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/austin-america

I may have seen one but it wasn\'t memorable. I do remember the first
Mini I saw. It was in Quebec and I was following it wondering what sort
of thing it was. Then the driver made a right hand turn onto a side road
without slowing appreciably and I decided whatever it was it handled
pretty well.

The 914 was a killer. The 914/6 would actually do a wheelie. During a
wheelie, it was hard to steer.

Understandable.

My MGs had a lot of oversteer (not power oversteer of course!) but
that was sort of controllable and kinda fun.

My future brother in law was riding in my Sprite one evening making
disparaging remarks about the roller skate. When he asked how it handled
I pulled a 180. \'Oh\' he said faintly. It may have been the most fun car
I\'ve owned. Part of the fun was having people watch me extract my over
6\' frame from the car. I found it more comfortable than a friend\'s A-H
3000.

That was my problem with the Audi. I was used to understeering American
iron but an application of throttle solved the problem. With the Audi
more throttle just got you to the tree faster.

 

[rbowman]

On 06/05/2022 10:15 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 00:12:41 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/04/2022 09:06 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
IIRC there was a small Audi that came out a bit before the 128, with
the
same layout. Mine had a dash-mounted choke _and_ a dash-mounted
throttle, so you could do the Italian cruise control thing without
needing a cinder block to put on the gas pedal.

I think the first Audi badged car was the F103 derived from a DKW by
replacing the 2 stroke with a 4 stroke longitudinal engine FWD. I don\'t
think it made it to the US. I bought a 100LS in \'71 and I think that was
the first US model before the smaller F80 Fox. It was longitudinal too.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/36535/this-1975-audi-100-has-a-rare-engine-layout-thats-uncommon-for-a-reason


https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-european/curbside-classic-1970-audi-100-ls-ingolstadts-table-setter/


The second link is much longer but has a view of the drive train.
Everything they say in both articles is true. I almost killed myself
before I got it sorted out. Not only was it the first FWD car I\'d driven
but the extremely nose heavy weight distribution meant it was happiest
going in a straight line, telephone poles and maple trees be damned. It
also had a number of electrical and mechanical issues. When we split my
wife got the Audi and I got the Lincoln. She later got a few hundred
bucks on a trade-in for a Rabbit which was a vast improvement.

I can only assume Audis have greatly improved. Oh, and there were the
ergonomic seats designed for somebody else\'s ergo. I\'ve driven
everything from a $35 \'51 Chevy on up to Kenworths and it was the most
uncomfortable thing of the pack.

I\'d really went in to buy a Porsche 914 but just sitting in one in the
showroom convinced me it wouldn\'t work so I wound up with the Audi. It
is telling that in \'71 it was a mid-sized executive car; today it would
barely make it into the compact class.

I think one of the first transverse-4 front-wheel drive cars was the
Austin America. Innvative but still British.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/austin-america

The 914 was a killer. The 914/6 would actually do a wheelie. During a
wheelie, it was hard to steer.

My MGs had a lot of oversteer (not power oversteer of course!) but
that was sort of controllable and kinda fun.

And of course leaked oil. Everything designed in England in the 1960s
was legally required to leak oil. The Concorde, the QE2, Triumphs, MGs,
Astons, tea pots, garden hosepipes, all of them.

Oil was cheap... The Brits were pining for the days of total loss
lubrication systems.

Triumph as in TR3/TR4 or Bonneville? Not that it makes a difference when
it comes to marking its territory.

 

[rbowman]

On 06/05/2022 11:53 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 12:15:18 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 00:12:41 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/04/2022 09:06 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
IIRC there was a small Audi that came out a bit before the 128, with the
same layout. Mine had a dash-mounted choke _and_ a dash-mounted
throttle, so you could do the Italian cruise control thing without
needing a cinder block to put on the gas pedal.

I think the first Audi badged car was the F103 derived from a DKW by
replacing the 2 stroke with a 4 stroke longitudinal engine FWD. I don\'t
think it made it to the US. I bought a 100LS in \'71 and I think that was
the first US model before the smaller F80 Fox. It was longitudinal too.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/36535/this-1975-audi-100-has-a-rare-engine-layout-thats-uncommon-for-a-reason

https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-european/curbside-classic-1970-audi-100-ls-ingolstadts-table-setter/

The second link is much longer but has a view of the drive train.
Everything they say in both articles is true. I almost killed myself
before I got it sorted out. Not only was it the first FWD car I\'d driven
but the extremely nose heavy weight distribution meant it was happiest
going in a straight line, telephone poles and maple trees be damned. It
also had a number of electrical and mechanical issues. When we split my
wife got the Audi and I got the Lincoln. She later got a few hundred
bucks on a trade-in for a Rabbit which was a vast improvement.

I can only assume Audis have greatly improved. Oh, and there were the
ergonomic seats designed for somebody else\'s ergo. I\'ve driven
everything from a $35 \'51 Chevy on up to Kenworths and it was the most
uncomfortable thing of the pack.

I\'d really went in to buy a Porsche 914 but just sitting in one in the
showroom convinced me it wouldn\'t work so I wound up with the Audi. It
is telling that in \'71 it was a mid-sized executive car; today it would
barely make it into the compact class.

I think one of the first transverse-4 front-wheel drive cars was the
Austin America. Innvative but still British.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/austin-america

The 914 was a killer. The 914/6 would actually do a wheelie. During a
wheelie, it was hard to steer.

My MGs had a lot of oversteer (not power oversteer of course!) but
that was sort of controllable and kinda fun.

And of course leaked oil. Everything designed in England in the 1960s
was legally required to leak oil. The Concorde, the QE2, Triumphs, MGs,
Astons, tea pots, garden hosepipes, all of them.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
(Former Triumph owner)

Honda made the amazing discovery that a motorcycle crankcase could be
split horizontally.

Yamaha and Honda bikes, myself.

Of the three bikes in the driveway the Harley is the one that doesn\'t
leak in some sort of twist of fate. The DR650 needs a chain tensioner
gasket and the VStrom needs a side cover gasket. I\'ll admit to munging
up the VStrom gasket when replacing the stator but it doesn\'t leak that
much and serves as a chain oiler.

I never had a Honda but I did have a Yamaha Seca 400. It was fun in a
Jeckyl and Hyde sort of way. You could short shift around town and it
was docile if no powerhouse. At 7500 rpm it went into raped ape mode and
pulled strong until the redline which iirc was 13,000. The transition
was like a two-stroke coming onto the pipe but with a lot wider power
band. People sneer at 400 cc\'s but it was perfectly capable and
comfortable for long rides.

Yamaha also makes guitars; got one hanging on the wall, an old FG-331
that\'s my goto 6 string acoustic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy1U8Yhsjyg

Laminated back and sides but it sounds good. After all there\'s a reason
the Yamaha logo is crossed tuning forks.

 

[Flyguy]

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 9:35:26 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 22:24:37 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/03/2022 10:04 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
Mine was an Austin-Healy Sprite. Great fun with the top down,
mechanically barbaric, fairly easy to fix, which was good given the
frequency of breakdowns. Kept a tool box in the tiny truck.

Ah, memories. I had a \'62. No bug-eye charm, a slightly larger engine,
and the semi-adequate brakes from \'61. Sudden rain storms were a
problem. By the time you got the frame out of the trunk, installed it in
the sockets, stretched the top over it, retrieved the side curtains, and
put them in place, you might as well have kept driving.
Drive above 30 mph or so and the rain barely touches your hair. Just
don\'t stop.


Didn\'t need jumper cables. I could push it, jump in, and dump the
clutch to start it. When the clutch worked. I drove from Mt Tam,
across the GG bridge home, without a clutch. My Filipino GF was
impressed.

I ran out of gas a few blocks from home. The city streets were level, so
I got out, walked beside it and pushed it along with no problem. Until I
got to an intersection where a cop was directing traffic. \"Do you
always take your car for a walk?\" At least cops still had a sense of
humor then.

I once ran out of gas and coasted about a block into a gas station.
Really.

Good planning to run out of gas uphill from a gas station!

 

[Phil Hobbs]

rbowman wrote:

On 06/05/2022 10:15 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 00:12:41 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/04/2022 09:06 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
IIRC there was a small Audi that came out a bit before the 128, with
the
same layout.  Mine had a dash-mounted choke _and_ a dash-mounted
throttle, so you could do the Italian cruise control thing without
needing a cinder block to put on the gas pedal.

I think the first Audi badged car was the F103 derived from a DKW by
replacing the 2 stroke with a 4 stroke longitudinal engine FWD. I don\'t
think it made it to the US. I bought a 100LS in \'71 and I think that
was
the first US model before the smaller F80 Fox. It was longitudinal too.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/36535/this-1975-audi-100-has-a-rare-engine-layout-thats-uncommon-for-a-reason



https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-european/curbside-classic-1970-audi-100-ls-ingolstadts-table-setter/



The second link is much longer but has a view of the drive train.
Everything they say in both articles is true. I almost killed myself
before I got it sorted out. Not only was it the first FWD car I\'d
driven
but the extremely nose heavy weight distribution meant it was happiest
going in a straight line, telephone poles and maple trees be damned. It
also had a number of electrical and mechanical issues. When we split my
wife got the Audi and I got the Lincoln. She later got a few hundred
bucks on a trade-in for a Rabbit which was a vast improvement.

I can only assume Audis have greatly improved. Oh, and there were the
ergonomic seats designed for somebody else\'s ergo. I\'ve driven
everything from a $35 \'51 Chevy on up to Kenworths and it was the most
uncomfortable thing of the pack.

I\'d really went in to buy a Porsche 914 but just sitting in one in the
showroom convinced me it wouldn\'t work so I wound up with the Audi. It
is telling that in \'71 it was a mid-sized executive car; today it would
barely make it into the compact class.

I think one of the first transverse-4 front-wheel drive cars was the
Austin America. Innvative but still British.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/austin-america

The 914 was a killer. The 914/6 would actually do a wheelie. During a
wheelie, it was hard to steer.

My MGs had a lot of oversteer (not power oversteer of course!) but
that was sort of controllable and kinda fun.

And of course leaked oil.  Everything designed in England in the 1960s
was legally required to leak oil.  The Concorde, the QE2, Triumphs, MGs,
Astons, tea pots, garden hosepipes, all of them.

Oil was cheap...   The Brits were pining for the days of total loss
lubrication systems.

Triumph as in TR3/TR4 or Bonneville? Not that it makes a difference when
it comes to marking its territory.


Mine was a TR7 with four- and five-speed transmissions at various times.

The four was made of glass, so when it went, I had a local shop put a
5-speed transmission and matching bell housing on. The rear end stayed
the same, so it needed a Frankenstein drive shaft, which worked fine. I
sold it when I got married and went to grad school.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

[Flyguy]

On Monday, June 6, 2022 at 8:55:18 AM UTC-7, Phil Hobbs wrote:

rbowman wrote:
On 06/05/2022 10:15 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 5 Jun 2022 00:12:41 -0600, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/04/2022 09:06 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
IIRC there was a small Audi that came out a bit before the 128, with
the
same layout. Mine had a dash-mounted choke _and_ a dash-mounted
throttle, so you could do the Italian cruise control thing without
needing a cinder block to put on the gas pedal.

I think the first Audi badged car was the F103 derived from a DKW by
replacing the 2 stroke with a 4 stroke longitudinal engine FWD. I don\'t
think it made it to the US. I bought a 100LS in \'71 and I think that
was
the first US model before the smaller F80 Fox. It was longitudinal too.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/36535/this-1975-audi-100-has-a-rare-engine-layout-thats-uncommon-for-a-reason



https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-european/curbside-classic-1970-audi-100-ls-ingolstadts-table-setter/



The second link is much longer but has a view of the drive train.
Everything they say in both articles is true. I almost killed myself
before I got it sorted out. Not only was it the first FWD car I\'d
driven
but the extremely nose heavy weight distribution meant it was happiest
going in a straight line, telephone poles and maple trees be damned. It
also had a number of electrical and mechanical issues. When we split my
wife got the Audi and I got the Lincoln. She later got a few hundred
bucks on a trade-in for a Rabbit which was a vast improvement.

I can only assume Audis have greatly improved. Oh, and there were the
ergonomic seats designed for somebody else\'s ergo. I\'ve driven
everything from a $35 \'51 Chevy on up to Kenworths and it was the most
uncomfortable thing of the pack.

I\'d really went in to buy a Porsche 914 but just sitting in one in the
showroom convinced me it wouldn\'t work so I wound up with the Audi. It
is telling that in \'71 it was a mid-sized executive car; today it would
barely make it into the compact class.

I think one of the first transverse-4 front-wheel drive cars was the
Austin America. Innvative but still British.

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/austin-america

The 914 was a killer. The 914/6 would actually do a wheelie. During a
wheelie, it was hard to steer.

My MGs had a lot of oversteer (not power oversteer of course!) but
that was sort of controllable and kinda fun.

And of course leaked oil. Everything designed in England in the 1960s
was legally required to leak oil. The Concorde, the QE2, Triumphs, MGs,
Astons, tea pots, garden hosepipes, all of them.

Oil was cheap... The Brits were pining for the days of total loss
lubrication systems.

Triumph as in TR3/TR4 or Bonneville? Not that it makes a difference when
it comes to marking its territory.


Mine was a TR7 with four- and five-speed transmissions at various times.

The four was made of glass, so when it went, I had a local shop put a
5-speed transmission and matching bell housing on. The rear end stayed
the same, so it needed a Frankenstein drive shaft, which worked fine. I
sold it when I got married and went to grad school.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

This is an article about an actual cross-country road trip in an EV (https://www.wsj.com/articles/i-rented-an-electric-car-for-a-four-day-road-trip-i-spent-more-time-charging-it-than-i-did-sleeping-11654268401?page=1):

I thought it would be fun.

That’s what I told my friend Mack when I asked her to drive with me from New Orleans to Chicago and back in an electric car.

I’d made long road trips before, surviving popped tires, blown headlights and shredded wheel-well liners in my 2008 Volkswagen Jetta. I figured driving the brand-new Kia EV6 I’d rented would be a piece of cake..

If, that is, the public-charging infrastructure cooperated. We wouldn’t be the first to test it. Sales of pure and hybrid plug-ins doubled in the U.S. last year to 656,866—over 4% of the total market, according to database EV-volumes. More than half of car buyers say they want their next car to be an EV, according to recent Ernst & Young Global Ltd. data.

BY THE NUMBERS
Our reporter’s four-day, three-night EV road trip included many charging stops, little sleep—and less junk food than you might expect

Miles driven: 2,013
Number of charges: 14
Total charging cost: $175
Hours spent waiting to charge: 18
Hours of sleep: 16
Calories of junk food consumed (estimated): 1,465
Giant chicken statues passed: 1
Oh—and we aimed to make the 2,000-mile trip in just under four days so Mack could make her Thursday-afternoon shift as a restaurant server.

Given our battery range of up to 310 miles, I plotted a meticulous route, splitting our days into four chunks of roughly 7½-hours each. We’d need to charge once or twice each day and plug in near our hotel overnight.

The PlugShare app—a user-generated map of public chargers—showed thousands of charging options between New Orleans and Chicago. But most were classified as Level 2, requiring around 8 hours for a full charge.

While we’d be fine overnight, we required fast chargers during the days. ChargePoint Holdings Inc., which manufactures and maintains many fast-charging stations, promises an 80% charge in 20 to 30 minutes. Longer than stopping for gas—but good for a bite or bathroom break.

The government is spending $5 billion to build a nationwide network of fast chargers, which means thousands more should soon dot major highways. For now, though, fast chargers tend to be located in parking lots of suburban shopping malls, or tethered to gas stations or car dealerships.

Cost varies widely based on factors such as local electricity prices and charger brands. Charging at home tends to be cheaper than using a public charger, though some businesses offer free juice as a perk to existing customers or to entice drivers to come inside while they wait.

Over four days, we spent $175 on charging. We estimated the equivalent cost for gas in a Kia Forte would have been $275, based on the AAA average national gas price for May 19. That $100 savings cost us many hours in waiting time.

But that’s not the whole story.

New Orleans, our starting point, has exactly zero fast chargers, according to PlugShare. As we set out, one of the closest is at a Harley-Davidson dealership in Slidell, La., about 40 minutes away. So we use our Monday-morning breakfast stop to top off there on the way out of town.

But when we tick down 15% over 35 miles? Disconcerting. And the estimated charging time after plugging in? Even more so. This “quick charge” should take 5 minutes, based on our calculations. So why does the dashboard tell us it will take an hour?

“Maybe it’s just warming up,” I say to Mack. “Maybe it’s broken?” she says.

Over Egg McMuffins at McDonald’s, we check Google. Chargers slow down when the battery is 80% full, the State of Charge YouTube channel tells us.

Worried about time, we decide to unplug once we return to the car, despite gaining a measly 13% in 40 minutes.

Our real troubles begin when we can’t find the wall-mounted charger at the Kia dealership in Meridian, Miss., the state’s seventh-largest city and hometown of country-music legend Jimmie Rodgers.

When I ask a mechanic working on an SUV a few feet away for help, he says he doesn’t know anything about the machine and points us inside. At the front desk, the receptionist asks if we’ve checked with a technician and sends us back outside.

Not many people use the charger, the mechanic tells us when we return. We soon see why. Once up and running, our dashboard tells us a full charge, from 18% to 100%, will take 3-plus hours.

It turns out not all “fast chargers” live up to the name. The biggest variable, according to State of Charge, is how many kilowatts a unit can churn out in an hour. To be considered “fast,” a charger must be capable of about 24 kW. The fastest chargers can pump out up to 350. Our charger in Meridian claims to meet that standard, but it has trouble cracking 20.

“Even among DC fast chargers, there are different level chargers with different charging speeds,” a ChargePoint spokeswoman says.

Worse, it is a 30-minute walk to downtown restaurants. We set off on foot, passing warehouses with shattered windows and an overgrown lot filled with rusted fuel pumps and gas-station signs. Clambering over a flatcar of a stalled freight train, we half-wish we could hop a boxcar to Chicago.

By the time we reach our next station, at a Mercedes-Benz dealership outside Birmingham, Ala., we’ve already missed our dinner reservations in Nashville—still 200 miles away.

Here, at least, the estimated charging time is only an hour—and we get to make use of two automatic massage chairs while we wait.

Salesman Kurt Long tells us the dealership upgraded its chargers to 54-kW models a few weeks earlier when the 2022 Mercedes EQS-Class arrived.

“Everyone’s concern is how far can the cars go on a charge,” he says. He adds that he would trade in his car for an EV tomorrow if he could afford the $102,000 price tag. “Just because it would be convenient for me because I work here,” he says. “Otherwise, I don’t know if I would just yet.”

A customer who has just bought a new BMW says he’d consider an EV one day—if the price drops.

“You remember when the microwave came out? Or DVD players?” says Dennis Boatwright, a 58-year-old tree surgeon. “When you first get them the prices were real high, but the older they are, the cheaper they get.”

When we tell him about our trip, he asks if we’ll make it to Chicago.

“We’re hoping,” I say.

“I’m hoping, too,” he says.

After the Birmingham suburbs, our journey takes us along nightmarish, dark mountain roads. We stop for snacks at a gas station featuring a giant chicken in a chef’s costume. We lean heavily on cruise control, which helps conserve battery life by reducing inadvertent acceleration and deceleration. We are beat when we finally stumble into our Nashville hotel at 12:30 a.m.

To get back on schedule, we are up and out early, amid pouring rain, writing the previous day off as a warm-up, an electric-car hazing.

For the most part, we are right. Thanks to vastly better charging infrastructure on this leg, all our stops last less than an hour.

It isn’t all smooth sailing, though. At one point we find ourselves wandering through a Kroger, sopping wet, in search of coffee after wrestling with a particularly finicky charger in the rain. By this point, not once have we managed to back in close enough to reach the pump, or gotten the stiff cord hooked around the right way on the first try.

In the parking lot of a Clarksville, Ind., Walmart, we barely have time for lunch, as the Electrify America charging station fills up our battery in about 25 minutes, as advertised.

The woman charging next to us describes a harrowing recent trip in her Volkswagen ID.4. Deborah Carrico, 65, had to be towed twice while driving between her Louisville, Ky., apartment and Boulder, Colo., where her daughter was getting married.

“My daughter was like, ‘You’ve lost it mom; just fly,’ ” the retired hairdresser says. She says she felt safer in a car during the pandemic—but also vulnerable when waiting at remote charging stations alone late at night. “But if someone is going to get me, they’re going to have to really fight me,” she says, wielding her key between her fingers like a weapon.

While she loves embracing the future, she says, her family has been giving her so much pushback that she is considering trading the car in and going back to gas.

At another Walmart, in Indianapolis, we meet Bill Stempowski as he waits for his Ford Mustang Mach-E to charge. A medical-equipment operations manager, 45, he drives all over the Midwest from his home in LaGrange, Ohio, for work.

In nine months, he says, he’s put 30,000 miles on the car and figures he’s saved thousands on gas. “I smile as the gas-sign prices tick up,” he says. That day, his charge comes to about $15, similar to what we are paying to fill up.

We pull into Chicago at 9 p.m., having made the planned 7½-hour trip in 12 hours. Not bad, we agree.

‘What if we just risk it?’
Leaving Chicago after a full night of sleep, I tell Mack I might write only about the journey’s first half. “The rest will just be the same,” I predict, as thunder claps ominously overhead.

“Don’t say that!” she says. “We’re at the mercy of this goddamn spaceship.” She still hasn’t mastered the lie-flat door handles after three days.

As intense wind and rain whip around us, the car cautions, “Conditions have not been met” for its cruise-control system. Soon the battery starts bleeding life. What began as a 100-mile cushion between Chicago and our planned first stop in Effingham, Ill., has fallen to 30.

“If it gets down to 10, we’re stopping at a Level 2,” Mack says as she frantically searches PlugShare.

We feel defeated pulling into a Nissan Mazda dealership in Mattoon, Ill. “How long could it possibly take to charge the 30 miles we need to make it to the next fast station?” I wonder.

Three hours. It takes 3 hours.

I begin to lose my mind as I set out in search of gas-station doughnuts, the wind driving sheets of rain into my face.

Seated atop a pyramid of Smirnoff Ice 12-packs, Little Debbie powdered sugar sprinkled down the pajama shirt I haven’t removed in three days, I phone Mack. “What if we just risk it?” I say. “Maybe we’ll make it there on electrical fumes.”

“That’s a terrible idea!” she says, before asking me to bring back a bag of nuts.

‘Charge, Urgently!’
Back on the road, we can’t even make it 200 miles on a full charge en route to Miner, Mo. Clearly, tornado warnings and electric cars don’t mix. The car’s highway range actually seems worse than its range in cities.

Indeed, highway driving doesn’t benefit as much from the car’s regenerative-braking technology—which uses energy generated in slowing down to help a car recharge its battery—Kia spokesman James Bell tells me later. He suspects our car is the less-expensive EV6 model with a range not of 310 miles, as listed on Turo, but 250. He says he can’t be sure what model we were driving without physically inspecting the car.

“As we have all learned over many years of experience with internal combustion engine vehicles, factors such as average highway speed, altitude changes, and total cargo weight can all impact range, whether derived from a tank of gasoline or a fully charged battery,” he says.

To save power, we turn off the car’s cooling system and the radio, unplug our phones and lower the windshield wipers to the lowest possible setting while still being able to see. Three miles away from the station, we have one mile of estimated range.

“Charge, Urgently!” the dashboard urges. “We know!” we respond.

At zero miles, we fly screeching into a gas-station parking lot. A trash can goes flying and lands with a clatter to greet us. Dinner is beef jerky, our plans to dine at a kitschy beauty shop-turned-restaurant in Memphis long gone.

Then we start to argue. Mack reminds me she needs to be back in time for her shift the next day. There’s no way we’ll make it, I tell her.

“Should we just drive straight through to New Orleans?” I finally ask desperately, even as I realize I’ve failed to map out the last 400 miles of our route.

To scout our options, Mack calls a McDonald’s in Winona, Miss., that is home to one of the few fast chargers along our route back to New Orleans. PlugShare tells us the last user has reported the charger broken. An employee who picks up reasonably responds that given the rain, she’ll pass on checking to see if an error message is flashing across the charger’s screen.

Home, sweet $4-a-gallon home
At our hotel, we decide 4 hours of sleep is better than none, and set our alarms for 4 a.m.

We figure 11 hours should be plenty for a trip that would normally take half as long. That is, if absolutely everything goes right.

Miraculously, it does. At the McDonald’s where we stop for our first charge at 6 a.m., the charger zaps to life. The body shop and parts department director at Rogers-Dabbs Chevrolet in Brandon, Miss., comes out to unlock the charger for us with a keycard at 10 a.m. We’re thrilled we waited for business hours, realizing we can only charge while he’s there.

We pull into New Orleans 30 minutes before Mack’s shift starts—exhausted and grumpy.

The following week, I fill up my Jetta at a local Shell station. Gas is up to $4.08 a gallon.

I inhale deeply. Fumes never smelled so sweet.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 04 Jun 2022 09:23:36 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Fri, 3 Jun 2022 22:32:45 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/03/2022 12:21 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jun 2022 22:16:02 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/02/2022 07:43 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 20:36:47 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On 06/01/2022 09:48 AM, bitrex wrote:
On 5/30/2022 1:56 PM, ke...@kjwdesigns.com wrote:
On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 20:20:21 UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2022 19:28:29 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Under the Tesla is Fast thread I posited the question of what the
speed would be of an EV run in the Cannonball Run (coast to coast
speed run). NO ONE answered! Not even the hardcore EV fanatics who
know everything about EVERYTHING. So, I looked it up: the EV record
for the Cannonball Run is held by a Tesla at 51 h 47 m with an
average speed of 56 mph:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/7/9/15938028/tesla-model-s-cannonball-run-record

The current fossil fuel record is HALF of that time at 25 h 39 m
with an average speed of 110 mph:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannonball_Run_challenge
You just don\'t appreciate the charm of insane acceleration alternated
with frantic braking and then waiting a couple of hours to charge. For
FREE!

Actually, the beauty of electric propulsion is that you get much
smoother acceleration and deceleration than with a conventional vehicle.

In most circumstances I don\'t wait for the car to charge at all, it
charges while I\'m asleep or doing something else.

And you don\'t understand how hip it is to drive an ugly car that
occasionally locks you out and catches fire.

The aesthetics of many modern EVs are hardly distinguishable from
conventional vehicles as they have the same goals and we\'ve already
posted evidence that conventional vehicles are much more likely to
catch fire than EVs.
...
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It\'s unfair to single out EVs when most vehicles sold are pretty ugly.

The crossover/CUV form factor seems particularly refractory to doing
anything very aesthetically pleasing with. How would you like your
rollerskate?

For my money some of the \'aggressive\' front end treatments look like the
car was pre-wrecked.

And silly side creases. And random slabs of chrome. And bizarre rear
lights.

Don\'t get me started on Volvos.




Someone at work drove a Subaru Forester. I knew the car but every time I
saw it I had to convince myself it hadn\'t been sideswiped. There was
something about the panels that looked bent.

Maybe a tree fell on it.


Never can tell around here. A friend was out getting firewood and
reasoned if he fell a tree on the upside of the road he could saw
lengths off and roll them down to the road. Worked well until one log
bounced off a rock, altered course, and took out the front quarter of
his pickup.

Youtube has lots of flics of idiots with chainsaws.

Our city version: we were driving uphill on Swiss Street and a
driverless recycling wheelie bin was screaming down the street at us.
Last second, it changed its mind and swerved into a parked car.


Around here there are a lot of comedy routines about the economics of
burning \'free\' firewood.

I just came back from three days up at the cabin in Truckee, one day
without power. Life is different without electricity.

A few cabins up the block, a tree fell in a windstorm. It slammed the
power line and sent a shock wave down the block. That propagated to us
and tugged on the roughly 100 foot tap-off from the street to our
cabin. It ripped the fascia off the roofline and dumped the power,
cable, and POTS wires on the ground.

I could model that in Spice.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lt38qw0yxrulr6v/AABtcYQNALQjZFqOfHV291dea?dl=0

A Spice transmission line has one mode. A real wire has lots of
mechanical modes: horizontal, vertical, longitudinal, twist. That
would be hard to Spice.

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If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon