I repaired a LW095NZ recently that had the same symptoms you outlined
I suppose one of the reasons why I like the idea of attacking standby powerChris Jones wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
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Ken Taylor wrote:
Ed - wrote:
I know that here in WA supply capacity is a "potential" problem
during hot weather, but standby power consumption is not an issue for
peak demand calculations but rather part of a push for overall energy
efficiency in the home.
see it as that home x millions x year after year after year.
clocks in various appliances are often on different times or flashing
00:00 and are a TOTAL waste of energy, and if you are not there to
see the time, what is the point of its existence?
Granted, but that's not the entirety of the issue. The amount of extra
energy by having a clock function on the appliance is insignificant
given that it won't be switched off at the wall anyway. People just
*aren't* going to reach around and turn the things off at the wall. Do
you??
What's the % of power to be saved here, compared to efficiencies to be
gained by using energy efficient appliances and homes/buildings,
greater
use of solar heating, and back-feeding to the grid? What about
commercial lighting left on inappropriately? The bureaucratic easy-fix
is a crock.
Cheers.
Ken
In the life of many microwave ovens more than 50% of the energy would
be used in running the clock, and less than 50% in running the
microwave
part.
Get yourself a good energy meter and try it in your house. Obviously
if you use the microwave to cook 50 dinners every day then this will
not be
the case for you but it is often true. Still TVs are probably far more
wasteful than microwave ovens.
The real problem is getting the appliance manufacturer to install a
240V rated switch before the power supply where they would prefer to
install a
low voltage switch after the power supply. Most portable radios have
this
problem even though they don't have a display to power.
Insulating houses better and using solar hot water are more important
uses
of effort, but when a TV + set top box can use 50 Watts all the time,
and if there is another 150 Watts of phantom loads around the house,
the
energy
use adds up to quite a lot over the years. It only goes unnoticed
because
electric power is so cheap.
Chris
Quick calculation here - an 800W microwave on for, say, 30 min's a day.
That's 1/50th of the day - is the clock going to consume 16W? Maybe, but
I doubt it (OP referenced an article which I admittedly bagged which
suggested
4.5W for the clocks, so there's a comparism). And it doesn't matter if
the unused clock is in a TV, a VCR or a microwave - if it's unused, it's
wasteful. Interesting point though - how much power does a 'normal' TV
use in standby? Must find a spec.....
Here's one I chose at random:
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-
/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?CategoryName=hid_tv_BRAVIA
&ProductSKU=KDLV32XBR1&TabName=specs&var2=
I'll quote:
Standby power consumption = 0.15W
Now, let's get with the programme and switch to Solar power for hot water
and forget this silliness about standby power consumption figures. I
can't find the reference, but I recall that the US EPA legislated that
all devices which use standby power must reduce the level to below 1
Watt, by such and such a date. It would seem that Sony (at least) have
managed this trivial piece of engineering.
Now, let's discuss something meaningful: Does anyone have experience with
a good, stainless steel Solar hot water system? THAT is the way I am
going to reduce my power consumption. I've just chucked out my 125 Watt
flood lights in my XLTastic heater/light/fan systems. I installed these
new Philips, warm white 23 Watt compact flurous. Very impressive.
Brighter than the floods and only 7 Bucks! Stick your worries about
standby power figures up yer bum. It's a complete furphy.
Yes if your TV only uses 0.15W that is fine. If your TV + set top box
uses 40 Watts all the time, as I measured in my parent's house, then that
is
worth thinking about. (The TV by itself was about 10W switched off with
the remote.) Even if you don't give a rat's arse about the environment,
40W is roughly $35 a year, so if you keep your TV + set top box for say
10 years then it should be worth spending at least $100 to buy ones more
like the one you mentioned above, even when you factor in the interest
rate that
you could get on that $100. Personally I don't like the waste of
resources either but most people don't care about that.
And yes I agree with you that the solar water heater is a good idea and
the compact fluoros too.
Chris
I can agree with what you're saying but I think your priorities are
wrong. When you're travelling at 100km/hr towards a cliff you don't
check that rear-view mirror is correctly adjusted.
Seriously, if, as has been said elsewhere, standby power consumption is
coming down to about 1% of the present amount, then we're heading in the
right direction (ie. cliff being averted). This is a good thing. But the
heating thing is still the major area.
Cheers.
Ken
That's nothing, a friend of mine the company he worked for had an
Get real. At the moment howard has a perfect opportunity to do as he
Almost?
I suppose you are going to suggest the USA?
It wouldnt be an old Queenslander ?
I guess that reading the name of the newsgroup one could be mistaken
It's you who is unrealistic in being so cynical as to think that we have
I should have added that I have googled for the full part number as well as bits
7segs x 2 digits, total 10 pins. Nope, it has to be iether muxed or decoding?
