W
who where
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:27:09 +1000, Tom <tom@no.spam.invalid> wrote:
Direct, out in the (sunny) summer weather.
K
kreed
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On Nov 20, 3:48 pm, "Mickel" <mic...@nospam.com> wrote:
20+ years ago I just bought the germicidal UV tube, a ballast and
starter and interlock switch (all scavenged from the junk box) and
built an enclosure for it for safety.
The toothbrush sterilizer idea is probably more cost efficient though.
20+ years ago I just bought the germicidal UV tube, a ballast and
starter and interlock switch (all scavenged from the junk box) and
built an enclosure for it for safety.
The toothbrush sterilizer idea is probably more cost efficient though.
T
terryc
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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:54:12 +1100, Sylvia Else wrote:
Friction, then chemical, and maybe a bit of adhesion.
J
John-Melb
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On Dec 6, 9:05 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
gangs with licenced firearms ownership? Does it somehow make you feel
morally superior?
Why do you see the need to somehow associate drug dealers and bikie
gangs with licenced firearms ownership? Does it somehow make you feel
morally superior?
J
John-Melb
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On Nov 28, 5:29 pm, Bob Larter <bobbylar...@gmail.com> wrote:
robbers, the rapists, the drug dealers or the child molesters?keithr wrote:
Jeßus wrote:
In article <7muumpF3jjpp...@mid.individual.net>,
dynasoar..REMOVE..THI...@ozdebate.com said...
:
:John-Melb wrote:
:> On Nov 23, 6:37 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
:
:>> And who are these "Anti-gun idiots"?
:
:> Let's see now,
:
:> The description includes those who don't have an issue with anti-gun
:> zealots posting their claptrap on other groups, but who go feral when
:> an alternative viewpoint appears in the same forum.
:
:> Remind you of anyone?
:
:> How is Dorothy, by the way?
:
:For Christ sake, John, put a sock in it! Or at least copy and paste
a new :diatribe.
:
:You keep on about this over and over and over again. Your paranoia
is :increasing daily.
:
:I, for one, object to any gun postings, for or against, by you or
Wilson or :anyone else in aus.electronics and have made that known
before.
:
:Go and beat up a prisoner or something, it may help you overcome your
bsessions.
This guy is a screw? Look at the poor judgment he shows on Usenet -
and this same guy is in charge of prisoners?
So rumour has it.
That's scary. Never thought I'd feel sorry for prisoners.
Which one's do you feel sorry for Bob, the murderers, the armed
J
John-Melb
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On Dec 13, 12:07 pm, "Allan" <some...@nowhere.com> wrote:
I was awaiting a reply from Keithr, and this is where he hangs out.
An experiment, Trivial Trevor regularly posts his anti-gun and anti-
gunowner rants on aus.electronics, and no-one complains, as soon as
any alternative viewpoint goes up, a small select group on
aus.electronics go absolutely feral.
You're sooking about what I posted, have you ever taken up the
repeated posting of anti-gun diatribe on the same group with the
poster?
Why is that?
Two reasons
I was awaiting a reply from Keithr, and this is where he hangs out.
An experiment, Trivial Trevor regularly posts his anti-gun and anti-
gunowner rants on aus.electronics, and no-one complains, as soon as
any alternative viewpoint goes up, a small select group on
aus.electronics go absolutely feral.
You're sooking about what I posted, have you ever taken up the
repeated posting of anti-gun diatribe on the same group with the
poster?
Why is that?
J
John-Melb
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On Dec 14, 8:45 pm, John-Melb <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com> wrote:
K
kreed
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On Dec 19, 11:26 pm, ".." <sustainable.future...@gmail.com> wrote:
it.
Dont be the last one to find this out, you will just look like a
moron.
Absolutely nothing. No way on earth you can stop a natural process.
You can however stop promoting rubbish like carbon pollution,
man made global warming etc, and by this alone you can do your bit to
stop bottom feeders (gore and other politicians for example) profiting
from it - stealing directly out of you and your family's pocket and
your future.
If you still want to believe in AGW, then feel free to spend this
money on your own ways to reduce energy consumption. That is your
right. Dont dare FORCE others to do the same.
I do agree however that saving energy is a good idea, there are many
easy and cheap way to do so, if you can do more for less it saves
money and that allows you to potentially have a higher amount of funds
to spend on other things, or save, invest.
problem
with some equipment.
I have had success with these newer 2000MAH AA L Ion cells, when
used with the proper charger.
They don't last for as many charges as they claim, but even if they
last for 50 or so is a worthwhile saving of money.
Running things directly off mains power rather than battery will be
more efficient (if possible).
tubes) use even less power than CFL and give more USABLE light.
Retrofitting with electronic ballasts can save a few watts of power
(and heat).
A lot of what is said about CFL's is false and they are not the
universal answer (though they are good in some cases). Please read
this technical article on the matter.
http://sound.westhost.com/articles/incandescent.htm
value for money.
One case where you should NOT buy locally is western made cars
compared to asian imports (japan etc).
Western cars in my experience generally have worse build quality,
outdated design and technology, higher price, less efficiency, lower
life, lower resale values than most Japanese (and even korean) brands.
This is bad for all of us, and "the environment".
of carbon emitted
doesn't matter anymore.
Hybrids cost much more to buy over equivalent normal cars, the extra
cost is much more than the likely fuel savings over the life. The
batteries used are a shocking pollutant, don't usually have a long
life, and high cost.
Buying a very efficient normal car is a much better way to save fuel
and cost in my opinion.
difference
Around here you are more likely to cause an accident, aggravation or
be a victim of road rage
if you were to try doing that on a main road.
by open windows, especially in modern
cars where aerodynamics are an extremely important part of the design
to improve fuel efficiency.
If you are driving slowly the aerodynamic losses will be less, but you
probably wont be getting much airflow either. If its in traffic, the
outside air will be hot, probably full of exhaust fumes, in this case
using aircon with vents closed is probably whats needed.
trips isn't good for the engine, it should
be regularly driven for long enough (20-30 min) to heat up the oil
enough to burn off the crap that accumulates
in it if it doesn't get warm. This crap becomes acidic and damages
your engine if not burnt off. Same with exhaust systems I have found
that if they regularly get hot enough, it gets rid of the condensation
etc that causes corrosion.
Repeated short trips probably increase damage via metal fatigue from
the metal expanding and contracting many times where on a long trip,
this will only happen at start up and when stopped.
> Regards.
Fortunately this has been shown to be false, so no need to panic about
it.
Dont be the last one to find this out, you will just look like a
moron.
Absolutely nothing. No way on earth you can stop a natural process.
You can however stop promoting rubbish like carbon pollution,
man made global warming etc, and by this alone you can do your bit to
stop bottom feeders (gore and other politicians for example) profiting
from it - stealing directly out of you and your family's pocket and
your future.
If you still want to believe in AGW, then feel free to spend this
money on your own ways to reduce energy consumption. That is your
right. Dont dare FORCE others to do the same.
I do agree however that saving energy is a good idea, there are many
easy and cheap way to do so, if you can do more for less it saves
money and that allows you to potentially have a higher amount of funds
to spend on other things, or save, invest.
Depending on climate it is a good idea.
Remember that some rechargeables are 1.2v VS 1.5v, this may be a
problem
with some equipment.
I have had success with these newer 2000MAH AA L Ion cells, when
used with the proper charger.
They don't last for as many charges as they claim, but even if they
last for 50 or so is a worthwhile saving of money.
Running things directly off mains power rather than battery will be
more efficient (if possible).
(better still the new T5 Fluorescent fittings, and/or triphosphor
tubes) use even less power than CFL and give more USABLE light.
Retrofitting with electronic ballasts can save a few watts of power
(and heat).
A lot of what is said about CFL's is false and they are not the
universal answer (though they are good in some cases). Please read
this technical article on the matter.
http://sound.westhost.com/articles/incandescent.htm
countries). Food I agree with if the quality is there and the price is
value for money.
One case where you should NOT buy locally is western made cars
compared to asian imports (japan etc).
Western cars in my experience generally have worse build quality,
outdated design and technology, higher price, less efficiency, lower
life, lower resale values than most Japanese (and even korean) brands.
This is bad for all of us, and "the environment".
electricity that I am aware of.
Since its now widely known that carbon pollution is a hoax, the amount
of carbon emitted
doesn't matter anymore.
Hybrids cost much more to buy over equivalent normal cars, the extra
cost is much more than the likely fuel savings over the life. The
batteries used are a shocking pollutant, don't usually have a long
life, and high cost.
Buying a very efficient normal car is a much better way to save fuel
and cost in my opinion.
It can, dont know the exact figures though.
In practice with modern cars in my experience it makes no noticeable
difference
Around here you are more likely to cause an accident, aggravation or
be a victim of road rage
if you were to try doing that on a main road.
Car Air conditioning uses less fuel than the aerodynamic drag caused
by open windows, especially in modern
cars where aerodynamics are an extremely important part of the design
to improve fuel efficiency.
If you are driving slowly the aerodynamic losses will be less, but you
probably wont be getting much airflow either. If its in traffic, the
outside air will be hot, probably full of exhaust fumes, in this case
using aircon with vents closed is probably whats needed.
It does help, also makes them last longer and grip better.
true - dont know exact figures though
Dont know about the figures accuracy, but stuff like repeated short
trips isn't good for the engine, it should
be regularly driven for long enough (20-30 min) to heat up the oil
enough to burn off the crap that accumulates
in it if it doesn't get warm. This crap becomes acidic and damages
your engine if not burnt off. Same with exhaust systems I have found
that if they regularly get hot enough, it gets rid of the condensation
etc that causes corrosion.
Repeated short trips probably increase damage via metal fatigue from
the metal expanding and contracting many times where on a long trip,
this will only happen at start up and when stopped.
> Regards.
F
fritz
Guest
"kreed" wrote...
They have the highest build quality in the world and they always lead
automotive
technology in all areas -e.g. Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, Audi etc.
Rubbish, the best cars in the world are made by German companies.
They have the highest build quality in the world and they always lead
automotive
technology in all areas -e.g. Porsche, BMW, Mercedes, Audi etc.
K
kreed
Guest
On Dec 20, 8:44 pm, "fritz" <yapu...@microsoft.com> wrote:
I don't dispute that - but they are European, not western.
On the downside brands like you mention are beyond the reach of most
people though, and are not an option for the majority of the
population.
The entry level and lower priced Mercedes are not made in Germany now
either. Not saying that they are necessarily bad quality as I havent
owned one.
I don't know if the other companies you mentioned make lower price
models for the mainstream market here. In my experience, Japanese made
cars provide the best build quality in the lower priced market where
the majority of buyers are.
I don't dispute that - but they are European, not western.
On the downside brands like you mention are beyond the reach of most
people though, and are not an option for the majority of the
population.
The entry level and lower priced Mercedes are not made in Germany now
either. Not saying that they are necessarily bad quality as I havent
owned one.
I don't know if the other companies you mentioned make lower price
models for the mainstream market here. In my experience, Japanese made
cars provide the best build quality in the lower priced market where
the majority of buyers are.
F
F Murtz
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kreed wrote:
no one has heard of it and nearly impossible to buy.(toyota century)
D
David L. Jones
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fritz wrote:
Even ownend an Opel?
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"fritz" <yaputya@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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than any of the European brands. Including Mercs. In fact, one of my clients
owns a C Class Benz. It has been back to Mercedes 37 (THIRTY SEVEN) times
for under warranty faults. He asked for a replacement and Merc refused.
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**Clearly you have never owned a Japanese car. They are vastly more reliable
than any of the European brands. Including Mercs. In fact, one of my clients
owns a C Class Benz. It has been back to Mercedes 37 (THIRTY SEVEN) times
for under warranty faults. He asked for a replacement and Merc refused.
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www.rageaudio.com.au
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Moonshadow
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fritz wrote:
Japanese makes, and worse than Kia!
http://www.caradvice.com.au/1436/top-10-reliable-brands/
"Other manufacturers which performed relatively poorly in the list include
* Porsche (27.48%)
* BMW (28.64)
* Mercedes (29.90%)
* Audi (36.74%)
* Land Rover (44.21%)
* Jeep (46.35 %)"
When it comes to reliability, German cars are worse all the major
Japanese makes, and worse than Kia!
http://www.caradvice.com.au/1436/top-10-reliable-brands/
"Other manufacturers which performed relatively poorly in the list include
* Porsche (27.48%)
* BMW (28.64)
* Mercedes (29.90%)
* Audi (36.74%)
* Land Rover (44.21%)
* Jeep (46.35 %)"
F
F Murtz
Guest
kreed wrote:
K
kreed
Guest
On Dec 21, 8:31 am, "Trevor Wilson" <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:
made) and they just kept going for many years and are extremely well
priced for what you get.
The best example was our 1991 Express work van, bought new and got
over 600,000 km out of it before it wasn't viable to repair with. I
did have the engine rebuilt, and put in a reconditioned exchange
gearbox from wreckers at around 300,000k, but a friend did it for a
reasonable price.
To my amazement I have seen the thing STILL getting round as one of
those "wicked" backpacker hire vans.
Locally made cars or locally assembled japan brand cars have been poor
quality, and I would never buy again.
Is this particular model made in Germany or elsewhere ?
A good friend of mine who is a Merc enthusiast told me a few years
back that all but the top end models are now made outside Germany
(South Africa, Korea, US depending on where they are to be exported
to IIRC).
He has also mentioned similar stories to what you say about your
client's Merc troubles.
wrote:
That is my experience too. Have had 2 Mitsubishi, and a Toyota (japan
made) and they just kept going for many years and are extremely well
priced for what you get.
The best example was our 1991 Express work van, bought new and got
over 600,000 km out of it before it wasn't viable to repair with. I
did have the engine rebuilt, and put in a reconditioned exchange
gearbox from wreckers at around 300,000k, but a friend did it for a
reasonable price.
To my amazement I have seen the thing STILL getting round as one of
those "wicked" backpacker hire vans.
Locally made cars or locally assembled japan brand cars have been poor
quality, and I would never buy again.
Is this particular model made in Germany or elsewhere ?
A good friend of mine who is a Merc enthusiast told me a few years
back that all but the top end models are now made outside Germany
(South Africa, Korea, US depending on where they are to be exported
to IIRC).
He has also mentioned similar stories to what you say about your
client's Merc troubles.
K
kreed
Guest
On Dec 21, 12:33 am, F Murtz <hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I always assumed that the luxury cars toyota made were under the
"Lexus" name.
I havent heard of it either.
I always assumed that the luxury cars toyota made were under the
"Lexus" name.
D
David L. Jones
Guest
Trevor Wilson wrote:
I had a Mazda 626 that did over 300,000km with hardly any trouble at all,
incredibly reliable, and never got professionally serviced, I just changed
the consumables myself whenever I got around to it. Worst problem ever was
the alternator going.
My current Opel has done only half that and it's constantly in the shop and
has broken down completely on many occasions. I think I've had half the bits
under the bonnet replaced. Has always leaked coolant like there's no
tomorrow (been in 4 times for coolant leaks alone). And I've had it dealer
serviced since new.
German cars are built like a brick out-house though, very solid, but the
reliability is abysmal.
Dave.
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Yup.
I had a Mazda 626 that did over 300,000km with hardly any trouble at all,
incredibly reliable, and never got professionally serviced, I just changed
the consumables myself whenever I got around to it. Worst problem ever was
the alternator going.
My current Opel has done only half that and it's constantly in the shop and
has broken down completely on many occasions. I think I've had half the bits
under the bonnet replaced. Has always leaked coolant like there's no
tomorrow (been in 4 times for coolant leaks alone). And I've had it dealer
serviced since new.
German cars are built like a brick out-house though, very solid, but the
reliability is abysmal.
Dave.
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Trevor Wilson
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"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
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new, the only problem has been a squeaky water pump.
South Afrika. It has been perfectly reliable. He won't be buying a Benz
again.
reliable, but is Hellishly expensive to service.
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**Fair enough. I've been lucky. We have a 1989 Telstar in the family. Since
new, the only problem has been a squeaky water pump.
**South Afrika. Ironically, the guy also owns a Golf. It was also made in
South Afrika. It has been perfectly reliable. He won't be buying a Benz
again.
**True enough. A mate has a 3 year old 500SL. It has been reasonably
reliable, but is Hellishly expensive to service.
**Clearly Merc could copy VW's expertise in setting up overseas operations.
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www.rageaudio.com.au
K
keithr
Guest
F Murtz wrote:
the factory in, when I was over there in the '80s
It looks like the car that the chairman of Fujitsu used to turn up at
the factory in, when I was over there in the '80s