PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[timbo]

On 2010-01-01, David L. Jones <altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

After 12 months or so of steady decline on prices of the Rigol DS1052E scope
on eBay (and other places), with them being around the US$400 mark or less
for some time now from countless ebay sellers, the price has suddenly jumped
up to US$550 or more from all sellers. There has also been a sudden and
drastic reduction in the number of sellers for this scope.

I've heard that one ebay seller has been acused of "dumping" the scope at
low prices by another seller and has had their listings removed.

and a quote from a cancelled ebay listing:
"We'd like to let you know that eBay has ended an item you were bidding on
for breaching of one or more of our policies. As it's important that eBay
maintains member privacy, we can't tell you exactly why the listing was
removed."

Dealextreme still have them for US$400 though, better get in quick...
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.30573

Dave.

jeez, i just got one last week - lucky i pulled the trigger when i did i'd
say!

cheers,

timbo.


--

http://www.skyrockats.com

 

[Superman]

On 2/01/2010 12:17 PM, Clocky wrote:

"Superman"<"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
news:Fal%m.66141$ze1.4569@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

On 1/01/2010 6:26 PM, Clocky wrote:


"Superman"<"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
newsNg%m.66087$ze1.7617@news-server.bigpond.net.au...


On 1/01/2010 4:39 PM, Clocky wrote:


"Superman"<"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
news:xT%_m.65951$ze1.33218@news-server.bigpond.net.au...


On 31/12/2009 5:17 PM, A Little Bit wrote:

On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:08:09 +1100, "Lu R"<whome@hotmail.com
wrote:

I bought one for xmas at Myers for $2,719 reduced from $4,233
RRP...THE
BEST
PICTURE of ANY TV's EVER!! Picture sharpness and the deepest blacks
are
just
out of this world.. Planet Earth on Bluray is to die for!! The intro
to
Dark
Knight in Imax HD Bluray is sooo clear your jaw will drop I swear.
Just
buy
the TV, I promise you will never look back.

I see your 46" and raise you 9"...

I fell in love with the 55" Samsung LED TV, at Myer it is $3909. RRP
at
Samsung is $6499.
The thing is only 29 mm thick and weighs a paltry 29kg. Doesn't chew
much power, either.

I am due for a big tax refund in the next few weeks and my existing
42"
plasma set will be
retired to the bedroom.

Plasmas are still better- better pic, more natural. Check out the
Samsung
58" plasma. ($4.5K)


Not these days, the Samsung LCD and LEDs are awesome and without the
drawbacks of plasmas.


Have you seen the Samsung Series 8 Plasmas? Picture is better, more
natural than the LCD's. And what are the 'drawbacks of plasmas'? They
use
more power and run hotter but that's about it.


As if that isn't enough, they don't last anywhere near as long and still
suffer from the static image problem.


How long do you want them to last? current technology is quoting 60,000
hours to half life, which translates to at least 50 years lifespan for 3-4
hours per day viewing! most ppl would upgrade well before then I daresay.

Here you go again stating meaningless figures.

They're not meaningless if they translate to factual information, as
they do.

In the real world plasmas do
not last as long as LCD technology with excess heat being one of the
reasons.

I seriously doubt that I'll still be watching the same Plasma panel in
50 years time, and not because it's burnt out, but rather because it's
been replaced or I'm dead!

And burn in is not the problem it used to be with current
technology, and all major brands have screen savers anyway.

Ah, so all these problems are irrelevant

I've stated why they're irrelevant. Rationality is not your forte is it.

but your problem with the Samsung
LCD is motion blur... which is so minor it is indistinguishable.

It's a fact that LCD response times are much less than Plasmas. You're
not too good with facts either I see.

But if you're a greenie you'd buy an LCD for environmental reasons I guess.


Or you don't like wasting money on excess power usage for no direct benefit.

The 'direct benefit' is a better picture, as I've stated ad nauseam now.

Meanwhile LCD/LED's still have the motion problem eg.
Samsung Series 8 Plasmas have a response
time of .001ms, compared to 2ms for their 55" LED. Plasmas also have a
much wider viewing angle, and LED's are still only an LCD but with
different illumination.

I doubt you would be able to tell the difference in a double blind trial.
(so to speak)


Nope. I can always tell if I'm watching a plasma or LCD/LED. Another
aspect of difference is what I call the 3D effect. LCD's always seem to
have a 'flatter' picture.


You can't know without doing a double blind trial where bias is eliminated.

I know what I like and what I want. Perhaps you should go watch
something on your LCD instead of engaging in pointless argument on usenet?


--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com

"We stopped the boats coming. The facts speak for themselves. People knew where we stood. We didn't try to be all things to all men. Look, our policy worked. There was no need to alter it" - John Howard

"Our journalists are finally noticing the elephant in the room. Rudd has given us grocery watch, fuel watch, a national dept our children will still be paying, an ETS scheme that will further bankrupt the nation without making an iota of difference to global warming. Rudd is all spin and no substance. Even worse, he expects to fool all people all the time." - media comment

"I don't care what you f__kers think!" - The Hon Kevin Rudd MP, Prime Minister of Australia

 

[David L. Jones]

Superman" <"the _man_of_steel wrote:

On 1/01/2010 10:05 PM, Rob wrote:

Superman wrote:

This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy
ppl here, but here goes..

Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable access
point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so I'm
wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the same MAC
address so that I can set up another internet access point?

Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access
point? Do I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one
connected to the modem, and the other where I want the other access
point? Or else how do I do it?

Thanks,

**


The modem goes to a router then tap off that for all connections,
wired or wireless.

Get an 'N' router not the 'G' as you suggest above. Check the specs.

D-LINK Wireless N Router DIR-615 not the D-LINK Wireless G Router
DIR-300 - Check the specs. If keen on DLink

Ok, I get that the router connects to the modem, but what does the
router transmit to?

Each computer, via cable Ethernet or Wireless.

so that I can get another internet connection
point? Do I just use another router of the same kind? Or if I run a cable
from the router it would need to be about 30 or 40 metres long. Would that
length be a problem, eg. signal loss, interference, etc.

No. 30 or 40 meters is easily possible with Ethernet.

and what kind of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to do it as
cheaply as
possible.

Wireless is the easiest and probably the cheapest solution. Get a WiFi card
or dongle for your computer.

The easiest way to do it would be if I could use the spare
modem somehow, and just connect it to the cable point that is already
there.

Forget trying to use the extra bigpond modem, it's not going to work.

The Bigpond modem plugs into the "Internet" input on the rounter, you then
plug all your computers into the rounter.
If you get a wireless router (you should, even if you don't need it now)
then you can connect as many computers as you want using the wireless
connection, as well as the ones connected directly to the router.

I use a DIR-300 D-Link wireless router with my bigpond modem, but there are
countless others.

Dave.

--
---------------------------------------------
Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast:
http://www.eevblog.com

 

[Dave Goldfinch]

On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:05:25 +1100, "David L. Jones"
<altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

Superman" <"the _man_of_steel wrote:
On 1/01/2010 10:05 PM, Rob wrote:

Superman wrote:

This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy
ppl here, but here goes..

Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable access
point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so I'm
wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the same MAC
address so that I can set up another internet access point?

Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access
point? Do I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one
connected to the modem, and the other where I want the other access
point? Or else how do I do it?

Thanks,

**


The modem goes to a router then tap off that for all connections,
wired or wireless.

Get an 'N' router not the 'G' as you suggest above. Check the specs.

D-LINK Wireless N Router DIR-615 not the D-LINK Wireless G Router
DIR-300 - Check the specs. If keen on DLink

Ok, I get that the router connects to the modem, but what does the
router transmit to?

Each computer, via cable Ethernet or Wireless.

so that I can get another internet connection
point? Do I just use another router of the same kind? Or if I run a cable
from the router it would need to be about 30 or 40 metres long. Would that
length be a problem, eg. signal loss, interference, etc.

No. 30 or 40 meters is easily possible with Ethernet.

and what kind of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to do it as
cheaply as
possible.

Wireless is the easiest and probably the cheapest solution. Get a WiFi card
or dongle for your computer.

The easiest way to do it would be if I could use the spare
modem somehow, and just connect it to the cable point that is already
there.

Forget trying to use the extra bigpond modem, it's not going to work.

The Bigpond modem plugs into the "Internet" input on the rounter, you then
plug all your computers into the rounter.
If you get a wireless router (you should, even if you don't need it now)
then you can connect as many computers as you want using the wireless
connection, as well as the ones connected directly to the router.

I use a DIR-300 D-Link wireless router with my bigpond modem, but there are
countless others.

Dave.

Hi Dave

Are you connected to Bigpond Cable?

Reason for the question is that I am wanting to replace my Router, a
Netgear WG614 and am not sure which others run the BP Cable Client.

Are you happy with the D-Link unit?

Cheers

Dave Goldfinch.

 

[Superman]

On 2/01/2010 3:05 PM, David L. Jones wrote:

Superman"<"the _man_of_steel wrote:

On 1/01/2010 10:05 PM, Rob wrote:


Superman wrote:

This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy
ppl here, but here goes..

Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable access
point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so I'm
wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the same MAC
address so that I can set up another internet access point?

Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access
point? Do I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one
connected to the modem, and the other where I want the other access
point? Or else how do I do it?

Thanks,

**

The modem goes to a router then tap off that for all connections,
wired or wireless.

Get an 'N' router not the 'G' as you suggest above. Check the specs.

D-LINK Wireless N Router DIR-615 not the D-LINK Wireless G Router
DIR-300 - Check the specs. If keen on DLink

Ok, I get that the router connects to the modem, but what does the
router transmit to?

Each computer, via cable Ethernet or Wireless.

What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router transmit
to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So what can I
use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle as
I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm not
wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.

so that I can get another internet connection
point? Do I just use another router of the same kind? Or if I run a cable
from the router it would need to be about 30 or 40 metres long. Would that
length be a problem, eg. signal loss, interference, etc.

No. 30 or 40 meters is easily possible with Ethernet.

ok

and what kind of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to do it as
cheaply as
possible.

Wireless is the easiest and probably the cheapest solution. Get a WiFi card
or dongle for your computer.

I can't use either of those (see above) but I understand now that I can
run a cable from the router and just plug the other end into the
ethernet socket of the DVDR. But is there such a thing as a 'double
adapter' to use on the ethernet socket of the BP modem? If so it would
eliminate the need for a router.

The easiest way to do it would be if I could use the spare
modem somehow, and just connect it to the cable point that is already
there.

Forget trying to use the extra bigpond modem, it's not going to work.

The Bigpond modem plugs into the "Internet" input on the rounter, you then
plug all your computers into the rounter.
If you get a wireless router (you should, even if you don't need it now)
then you can connect as many computers as you want using the wireless
connection, as well as the ones connected directly to the router.

I use a DIR-300 D-Link wireless router with my bigpond modem, but there are
countless others.

I'm told that not all routers work with BP modems. I will have to get a
list of 'approved' ones, but it's good to know that the DIR-300 does.

Dave.

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com

"We stopped the boats coming. The facts speak for themselves. People knew where we stood. We didn't try to be all things to all men. Look, our policy worked. There was no need to alter it" - John Howard

"Our journalists are finally noticing the elephant in the room. Rudd has given us grocery watch, fuel watch, a national dept our children will still be paying, an ETS scheme that will further bankrupt the nation without making an iota of difference to global warming. Rudd is all spin and no substance. Even worse, he expects to fool all people all the time." - media comment

"I don't care what you f__kers think!" - The Hon Kevin Rudd MP, Prime Minister of Australia

 

[Mr.T]

"Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
news:HFx%m.66273$ze1.49228@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

I seriously doubt that I'll still be watching the same Plasma panel in
50 years time,

I'd bet my house it won't still be working anyway.

and not because it's burnt out, but rather because it's
been replaced or I'm dead!

Or more commonly the power supply has failed and you choose to replace the
TV rather than the power supply when you find out the cost!
Not that LCD's are much better in that regard though. Plenty of both have
been thrown away while many older CRT sets keep on going.
(and even plenty of working CRT's thrown away when they are replaced with
big flat screens)

MrT.

 

[Rob]

Superman wrote:

On 2/01/2010 3:05 PM, David L. Jones wrote:

Superman"<"the _man_of_steel wrote:

On 1/01/2010 10:05 PM, Rob wrote:


Superman wrote:

This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy
ppl here, but here goes..

Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable access
point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so I'm
wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the same MAC
address so that I can set up another internet access point?

Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access
point? Do I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one
connected to the modem, and the other where I want the other access
point? Or else how do I do it?

Thanks,

**

The modem goes to a router then tap off that for all connections,
wired or wireless.

Get an 'N' router not the 'G' as you suggest above. Check the specs.

D-LINK Wireless N Router DIR-615 not the D-LINK Wireless G Router
DIR-300 - Check the specs. If keen on DLink

Ok, I get that the router connects to the modem, but what does the
router transmit to?

Each computer, via cable Ethernet or Wireless.



What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router transmit
to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So what can I
use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle as
I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm not
wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.

so that I can get another internet connection
point? Do I just use another router of the same kind? Or if I run a
cable
from the router it would need to be about 30 or 40 metres long. Would
that
length be a problem, eg. signal loss, interference, etc.

No. 30 or 40 meters is easily possible with Ethernet.


ok


and what kind of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to do
it as
cheaply as
possible.

Wireless is the easiest and probably the cheapest solution. Get a WiFi
card
or dongle for your computer.



I can't use either of those (see above) but I understand now that I can
run a cable from the router and just plug the other end into the
ethernet socket of the DVDR. But is there such a thing as a 'double
adapter' to use on the ethernet socket of the BP modem? If so it would
eliminate the need for a router.

yes

The easiest way to do it would be if I could use the spare
modem somehow, and just connect it to the cable point that is already
there.

Forget trying to use the extra bigpond modem, it's not going to work.

The Bigpond modem plugs into the "Internet" input on the rounter, you
then
plug all your computers into the rounter.
If you get a wireless router (you should, even if you don't need it now)
then you can connect as many computers as you want using the wireless
connection, as well as the ones connected directly to the router.

I use a DIR-300 D-Link wireless router with my bigpond modem, but
there are
countless others.


I'm told that not all routers work with BP modems. I will have to get a
list of 'approved' ones, but it's good to know that the DIR-300 does.

Dave.

 

[David L. Jones]

Dave Goldfinch wrote:

On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:05:25 +1100, "David L. Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

Superman" <"the _man_of_steel wrote:
On 1/01/2010 10:05 PM, Rob wrote:

Superman wrote:

This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy
ppl here, but here goes..

Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable
access point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so
I'm wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the
same MAC address so that I can set up another internet access
point?

Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access
point? Do I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one
connected to the modem, and the other where I want the other
access point? Or else how do I do it?

Thanks,

**


The modem goes to a router then tap off that for all connections,
wired or wireless.

Get an 'N' router not the 'G' as you suggest above. Check the
specs.

D-LINK Wireless N Router DIR-615 not the D-LINK Wireless G Router
DIR-300 - Check the specs. If keen on DLink

Ok, I get that the router connects to the modem, but what does the
router transmit to?

Each computer, via cable Ethernet or Wireless.

so that I can get another internet connection
point? Do I just use another router of the same kind? Or if I run a
cable from the router it would need to be about 30 or 40 metres
long. Would that length be a problem, eg. signal loss,
interference, etc.

No. 30 or 40 meters is easily possible with Ethernet.

and what kind of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to do
it as cheaply as
possible.

Wireless is the easiest and probably the cheapest solution. Get a
WiFi card or dongle for your computer.

The easiest way to do it would be if I could use the spare
modem somehow, and just connect it to the cable point that is
already there.

Forget trying to use the extra bigpond modem, it's not going to work.

The Bigpond modem plugs into the "Internet" input on the rounter,
you then plug all your computers into the rounter.
If you get a wireless router (you should, even if you don't need it
now) then you can connect as many computers as you want using the
wireless connection, as well as the ones connected directly to the
router.

I use a DIR-300 D-Link wireless router with my bigpond modem, but
there are countless others.

Dave.


Hi Dave

Are you connected to Bigpond Cable?

Yep.

Reason for the question is that I am wanting to replace my Router, a
Netgear WG614 and am not sure which others run the BP Cable Client.

There is no Bigpond cable client software any more, it's all done in the
bigpond modem via the MAC address now. So you just plug the moden into any
wired or wireless router and it just works.
I guess too many people complained about the old client software system that
meant you couldn't just plug the modem directly into a router.

Are you happy with the D-Link unit?

Yeah, it works, never given any problem.

Dave.

--
---------------------------------------------
Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast:
http://www.eevblog.com

 

[David L. Jones]

Superman" <"the _man_of_steel wrote:

On 2/01/2010 3:05 PM, David L. Jones wrote:

Superman"<"the _man_of_steel wrote:

On 1/01/2010 10:05 PM, Rob wrote:


Superman wrote:

This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy
ppl here, but here goes..

Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable
access point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so
I'm wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the
same MAC address so that I can set up another internet access
point? Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access
point? Do I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one
connected to the modem, and the other where I want the other
access point? Or else how do I do it?

Thanks,

**

The modem goes to a router then tap off that for all connections,
wired or wireless.

Get an 'N' router not the 'G' as you suggest above. Check the
specs. D-LINK Wireless N Router DIR-615 not the D-LINK Wireless G
Router
DIR-300 - Check the specs. If keen on DLink

Ok, I get that the router connects to the modem, but what does the
router transmit to?

Each computer, via cable Ethernet or Wireless.



What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router
transmit to?

The ethernet connection on the computer or other Internet enabled device of
course.

Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers.

They are tranceivers, they send and recieve ethernet packets.

So what can I use as the receiver if I go the wireless route?

You need a wireless ethernet bridge, like this:
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WET54G

I can't use a dongle as I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and
that's
because I'm not wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.

and what kind of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to do
it as cheaply as
possible.

Wireless is the easiest and probably the cheapest solution. Get a
WiFi card or dongle for your computer.



I can't use either of those (see above) but I understand now that I
can run a cable from the router and just plug the other end into the
ethernet socket of the DVDR. But is there such a thing as a 'double
adapter' to use on the ethernet socket of the BP modem? If so it would
eliminate the need for a router.

Don't know for sure, sorry.
A wireless ethernet bridge would allow you to use a wireless router as I
said.

Dave.

--
---------------------------------------------
Check out my Electronics Engineering Video Blog & Podcast:
http://www.eevblog.com

 

[Rob]

David L. Jones wrote:

Superman" <"the _man_of_steel wrote:
On 2/01/2010 3:05 PM, David L. Jones wrote:

Superman"<"the _man_of_steel wrote:

Look I found a picture!

http://www.duxcw.com/faq/ics/diffrout.htm

 

[Swanny]

David L. Jones wrote:

Enjoy...
http://www.lessloss.com/blackbody-p-200.html

Dave.

It interfered with my orgone accumulator, generating significant
quantities of dor. The only remedy I could find was to build a stone
pyramid listening room, and now all my music sounds sharp!

 

[Superman]

On 3/01/2010 3:09 AM, Mr.T wrote:

"Superman"<"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
news:HFx%m.66273$ze1.49228@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

I seriously doubt that I'll still be watching the same Plasma panel in
50 years time,

I'd bet my house it won't still be working anyway.


and not because it's burnt out, but rather because it's
been replaced or I'm dead!

Or more commonly the power supply has failed and you choose to replace the
TV rather than the power supply when you find out the cost!
Not that LCD's are much better in that regard though. Plenty of both have
been thrown away while many older CRT sets keep on going.
(and even plenty of working CRT's thrown away when they are replaced with
big flat screens)

And not just by big screens either. I want to replace some smaller CRT's
with flat panels, eg. dining room, bedroom, etc.,but what to do with the
CRT's? I'm a hoarder by nature and hate disposing of perfectly good
equipment. Guess I'll have to ask friends if they want them. I still
have VCR's in perfect order, but no one wants those.

MrT.

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com

"We stopped the boats coming. The facts speak for themselves. People knew where we stood. We didn't try to be all things to all men. Look, our policy worked. There was no need to alter it" - John Howard

"Our journalists are finally noticing the elephant in the room. Rudd has given us grocery watch, fuel watch, a national dept our children will still be paying, an ETS scheme that will further bankrupt the nation without making an iota of difference to global warming. Rudd is all spin and no substance. Even worse, he expects to fool all people all the time." - media comment

"I don't care what you f__kers think!" - The Hon Kevin Rudd MP, Prime Minister of Australia

 

[Dave Goldfinch]

On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 09:37:31 +1100, "David L. Jones"
<altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

Dave Goldfinch wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:05:25 +1100, "David L. Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

Superman" <"the _man_of_steel wrote:
On 1/01/2010 10:05 PM, Rob wrote:

Superman wrote:

This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy
ppl here, but here goes..

Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable
access point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so
I'm wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the
same MAC address so that I can set up another internet access
point?

Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access
point? Do I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one
connected to the modem, and the other where I want the other
access point? Or else how do I do it?

Thanks,

**


The modem goes to a router then tap off that for all connections,
wired or wireless.

Get an 'N' router not the 'G' as you suggest above. Check the
specs.

D-LINK Wireless N Router DIR-615 not the D-LINK Wireless G Router
DIR-300 - Check the specs. If keen on DLink

Ok, I get that the router connects to the modem, but what does the
router transmit to?

Each computer, via cable Ethernet or Wireless.

so that I can get another internet connection
point? Do I just use another router of the same kind? Or if I run a
cable from the router it would need to be about 30 or 40 metres
long. Would that length be a problem, eg. signal loss,
interference, etc.

No. 30 or 40 meters is easily possible with Ethernet.

and what kind of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to do
it as cheaply as
possible.

Wireless is the easiest and probably the cheapest solution. Get a
WiFi card or dongle for your computer.

The easiest way to do it would be if I could use the spare
modem somehow, and just connect it to the cable point that is
already there.

Forget trying to use the extra bigpond modem, it's not going to work.

The Bigpond modem plugs into the "Internet" input on the rounter,
you then plug all your computers into the rounter.
If you get a wireless router (you should, even if you don't need it
now) then you can connect as many computers as you want using the
wireless connection, as well as the ones connected directly to the
router.

I use a DIR-300 D-Link wireless router with my bigpond modem, but
there are countless others.

Dave.


Hi Dave

Are you connected to Bigpond Cable?

Yep.

Reason for the question is that I am wanting to replace my Router, a
Netgear WG614 and am not sure which others run the BP Cable Client.

There is no Bigpond cable client software any more, it's all done in the
bigpond modem via the MAC address now. So you just plug the moden into any
wired or wireless router and it just works.
I guess too many people complained about the old client software system that
meant you couldn't just plug the modem directly into a router.

Are you happy with the D-Link unit?

Yeah, it works, never given any problem.

Dave.

Well that is news to me!

I always knew that it was done via the MAC address as this was what
the installers had to call back to the admin centre before it would
work. I have been using the same modem & router since I connected to
BP about 6 years ago & it definitely hasn't changed apart from a
download of new firmware for the router about a year ago.

Are you perhaps talking about the Cable Elite or Ultimate offering?
This hasn't hit WA yet.

Dave

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2010-01-02, Superman <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote:

What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router transmit
to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So what can I
use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle as
I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm not
wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.

a "wireless bridge" or an access point that supports bridging can be
used to connect wired devices to a wireless network.

I can't use either of those (see above) but I understand now that I can
run a cable from the router and just plug the other end into the
ethernet socket of the DVDR. But is there such a thing as a 'double
adapter' to use on the ethernet socket of the BP modem? If so it would
eliminate the need for a router.

you could try an ethernet switch there.


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[Mr.T]

"Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
news:M6V%m.66513$ze1.8114@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

. I still have VCR's in perfect order, but no one wants those.

If you have a good VHS-HiFi unit, I'll have it. Still have plenty of old
tapes not available on DVD.

MrT.

 

[David L. Jones]

Dave Goldfinch wrote:

On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 09:37:31 +1100, "David L. Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

Dave Goldfinch wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:05:25 +1100, "David L. Jones"
altzone@gmail.com> wrote:

Superman" <"the _man_of_steel wrote:
On 1/01/2010 10:05 PM, Rob wrote:

Superman wrote:

This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech
savvy ppl here, but here goes..

Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable
access point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so
I'm wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the
same MAC address so that I can set up another internet access
point?

Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access
point? Do I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one
connected to the modem, and the other where I want the other
access point? Or else how do I do it?

Thanks,

**


The modem goes to a router then tap off that for all connections,
wired or wireless.

Get an 'N' router not the 'G' as you suggest above. Check the
specs.

D-LINK Wireless N Router DIR-615 not the D-LINK Wireless G Router
DIR-300 - Check the specs. If keen on DLink

Ok, I get that the router connects to the modem, but what does the
router transmit to?

Each computer, via cable Ethernet or Wireless.

so that I can get another internet connection
point? Do I just use another router of the same kind? Or if I run
a cable from the router it would need to be about 30 or 40 metres
long. Would that length be a problem, eg. signal loss,
interference, etc.

No. 30 or 40 meters is easily possible with Ethernet.

and what kind of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to
do it as cheaply as
possible.

Wireless is the easiest and probably the cheapest solution. Get a
WiFi card or dongle for your computer.

The easiest way to do it would be if I could use the spare
modem somehow, and just connect it to the cable point that is
already there.

Forget trying to use the extra bigpond modem, it's not going to
work.

The Bigpond modem plugs into the "Internet" input on the rounter,
you then plug all your computers into the rounter.
If you get a wireless router (you should, even if you don't need it
now) then you can connect as many computers as you want using the
wireless connection, as well as the ones connected directly to the
router.

I use a DIR-300 D-Link wireless router with my bigpond modem, but
there are countless others.

Dave.


Hi Dave

Are you connected to Bigpond Cable?

Yep.

Reason for the question is that I am wanting to replace my Router, a
Netgear WG614 and am not sure which others run the BP Cable Client.

There is no Bigpond cable client software any more, it's all done in
the bigpond modem via the MAC address now. So you just plug the
moden into any wired or wireless router and it just works.
I guess too many people complained about the old client software
system that meant you couldn't just plug the modem directly into a
router.

Are you happy with the D-Link unit?

Yeah, it works, never given any problem.

Dave.


Well that is news to me!

I always knew that it was done via the MAC address as this was what
the installers had to call back to the admin centre before it would
work. I have been using the same modem & router since I connected to
BP about 6 years ago & it definitely hasn't changed apart from a
download of new firmware for the router about a year ago.

Are you perhaps talking about the Cable Elite or Ultimate offering?
This hasn't hit WA yet.

Don't know about those, I joined the super fast Bigpond Liberty Extreme plan
in Sydney a couple of years back after having it 5 years ago or so and then
switching to ADSL for a couple of years.
I guess they call that the Elite or Ultimate plan now?
I've got the new SB5101 modem as part of the new sign-on package, don't know
if you need that to connect direct via the MAC address only though.
One of the reasons that enticed me back to cable was that they had removed
the requirement to have that stupid client software running on the computer
that was connected, so you couldn't just connect the modem to a wireless
router like you can with an ADSL modem.
I read on the Whirlpool forums that they had actually removed this
requirement a year or two before I joined again, and I believe it's for all
plans now. No one should have to use the client software.
Best to ask on the Whirlpool forums about this though, I don't know all the
details.

Dave.

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[Hugh Jeego]

"Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
news:VCH%m.66372$ze1.38331@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router transmit
to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So what can I

Nope. A router is a transceiver the same as radios in taxis are
transceivers. Routers send and receive otherwise they cant route.

use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle as I
need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm not wanting
to connect to a computer but a DVDR.

I assume you mean you want to connect to something like a Tivo? If so you
need to be more specific. Which one? In any case, a wi-fi router is a
transceiver and you WOULD need a dongle if your computer isnt close to the
other equipment. Alternatively, if you want to run ethernet cables
everywhere, you could have a router that either is or isnt also wi-fi and
plug the cables into it. Some routers allow more than one ethernet
connection.

 

[Superman]

On 5/01/2010 7:30 AM, Hugh Jeego wrote:

"Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
news:VCH%m.66372$ze1.38331@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router
transmit to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So
what can I

Nope. A router is a transceiver the same as radios in taxis are
transceivers. Routers send and receive otherwise they cant route.

use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle
as I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm
not wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.

I assume you mean you want to connect to something like a Tivo?

No, it's a DVDR that has inbuilt software for connecting to the internet
via an ethernet socket.

If so you need to be more specific. Which one? In any case, a wi-fi
router is a transceiver and you WOULD need a dongle if your computer
isnt close to the other equipment. Alternatively, if you want to run
ethernet cables everywhere, you could have a router that either is or
isnt also wi-fi and plug the cables into it. Some routers allow more
than one ethernet connection.

It seems to me this is what I have to do?..
http://ausnet.info/pics/router.jpg

(with apologies to Rembrandt, Renoir, etc.,


--
rgds,

Pete
=====
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"We stopped the boats coming. The facts speak for themselves. People knew where we stood. We didn't try to be all things to all men. Look, our policy worked. There was no need to alter it" - John Howard

"Our journalists are finally noticing the elephant in the room. Rudd has given us grocery watch, fuel watch, a national dept our children will still be paying, an ETS scheme that will further bankrupt the nation without making an iota of difference to global warming. Rudd is all spin and no substance. Even worse, he expects to fool all people all the time." - media comment

"I don't care what you f__kers think!" - The Hon Kevin Rudd MP, Prime Minister of Australia

 

[Superman]

On 3/01/2010 9:36 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2010-01-02, Superman<"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote:


What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router transmit
to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So what can I
use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle as
I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm not
wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.

a "wireless bridge" or an access point that supports bridging can be
used to connect wired devices to a wireless network.

Thanks. I'll have to investigate the difference between that and a
router. I assume that the bridge would be cheaper.

I can't use either of those (see above) but I understand now that I can
run a cable from the router and just plug the other end into the
ethernet socket of the DVDR. But is there such a thing as a 'double
adapter' to use on the ethernet socket of the BP modem? If so it would
eliminate the need for a router.

you could try an ethernet switch there.

Except I will need to use a wireless router if I'm not going to run cable.


--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com

"We stopped the boats coming. The facts speak for themselves. People knew where we stood. We didn't try to be all things to all men. Look, our policy worked. There was no need to alter it" - John Howard

"Our journalists are finally noticing the elephant in the room. Rudd has given us grocery watch, fuel watch, a national dept our children will still be paying, an ETS scheme that will further bankrupt the nation without making an iota of difference to global warming. Rudd is all spin and no substance. Even worse, he expects to fool all people all the time." - media comment

"I don't care what you f__kers think!" - The Hon Kevin Rudd MP, Prime Minister of Australia

 

[Superman]

On 3/01/2010 10:02 AM, David L. Jones wrote:

Superman"<"the _man_of_steel wrote:

On 2/01/2010 3:05 PM, David L. Jones wrote:


Superman"<"the _man_of_steel wrote:


On 1/01/2010 10:05 PM, Rob wrote:


Superman wrote:

This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy
ppl here, but here goes..

Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable
access point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so
I'm wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the
same MAC address so that I can set up another internet access
point? Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access
point? Do I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one
connected to the modem, and the other where I want the other
access point? Or else how do I do it?

Thanks,

**

The modem goes to a router then tap off that for all connections,
wired or wireless.

Get an 'N' router not the 'G' as you suggest above. Check the
specs. D-LINK Wireless N Router DIR-615 not the D-LINK Wireless G
Router
DIR-300 - Check the specs. If keen on DLink

Ok, I get that the router connects to the modem, but what does the
router transmit to?

Each computer, via cable Ethernet or Wireless.

What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router
transmit to?

The ethernet connection on the computer or other Internet enabled device of
course.

The router has to transmit to some device that the cable from the socket
plugs into. That is what I meant.

Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers.

They are tranceivers, they send and recieve ethernet packets.


So what can I use as the receiver if I go the wireless route?

You need a wireless ethernet bridge, like this:
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WET54G

ok, thanks. I'm beginning to get this problem sorted out now.

I can't use a dongle as I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and
that's
because I'm not wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.


and what kind of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to do
it as cheaply as
possible.


Wireless is the easiest and probably the cheapest solution. Get a
WiFi card or dongle for your computer.


I can't use either of those (see above) but I understand now that I
can run a cable from the router and just plug the other end into the
ethernet socket of the DVDR. But is there such a thing as a 'double
adapter' to use on the ethernet socket of the BP modem? If so it would
eliminate the need for a router.

Don't know for sure, sorry.
A wireless ethernet bridge would allow you to use a wireless router as I
said.

Dave.

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com

"We stopped the boats coming. The facts speak for themselves. People knew where we stood. We didn't try to be all things to all men. Look, our policy worked. There was no need to alter it" - John Howard

"Our journalists are finally noticing the elephant in the room. Rudd has given us grocery watch, fuel watch, a national dept our children will still be paying, an ETS scheme that will further bankrupt the nation without making an iota of difference to global warming. Rudd is all spin and no substance. Even worse, he expects to fool all people all the time." - media comment

"I don't care what you f__kers think!" - The Hon Kevin Rudd MP, Prime Minister of Australia