PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:05:23 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
wrote:

We have not produced a printed copy this year but
have instead produced a Catalogue on CD-Rom.

And on the web too.

Looks like its just going to be a Jaycar and Altronics catalogue next
to the crapper from now on.

Can't afford to have a PC in the toilet.

 

[Arpit]

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 10:47:19 GMT, tronnort_@yahoo.com (David L. Jones)
wrote:

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:13:40 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote in message
news:64oYa.18840$bo1.7412@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith

"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

** BIG mistake - they will lose a huge amount of sales.

I don't think do.
Only us electronics types tend to keep and refer to catalogs like
that, and we are most likely a very small proportion of their business
now. Most in our camp are probably cluey enough to use the web site or
an old catalog. Basic electronic bits tend not to change much between
catalogs, and that's all anyone like us would go to DSE for anyway. I
know plenty of people that happily use DSE catalogs 3-4 years out of
date.

Yep, Most people I know who shop there, when they want something, go
to the shop, and ask a salesperson.

 

[KLR]

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 08:27:46 GMT, "Brian Goldsmith"
<brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote:

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith


"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

How bloody ridiculous

It will certainly kill their catalogue sales to almost nil !!

(that may or may not be important depending on what % of their
turnover is catalogue and what is store sales though)

I have yet to come across an electronic/web catalog that is worth
using compared to the paper one.

 

[KLR]

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 12:43:11 GMT, Arpit
<DONTSPAMMEF00Lneko4@dodo.com.au> wrote:

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 10:47:19 GMT, tronnort_@yahoo.com (David L. Jones)
wrote:

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:13:40 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote in message
news:64oYa.18840$bo1.7412@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith

"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

** BIG mistake - they will lose a huge amount of sales.

I don't think do.
Only us electronics types tend to keep and refer to catalogs like
that, and we are most likely a very small proportion of their business
now. Most in our camp are probably cluey enough to use the web site or
an old catalog. Basic electronic bits tend not to change much between
catalogs, and that's all anyone like us would go to DSE for anyway. I
know plenty of people that happily use DSE catalogs 3-4 years out of
date.

Yep, Most people I know who shop there, when they want something, go
to the shop, and ask a salesperson.

Last time I did that - I copped a bloke who would be early 20s NO
electronic knowlege worth talking of (didnt know the difference
between a male and female 6.5mm plug on a audio lead that I wanted)
but that didnt matter as (as usual for here) they never had the item
in stock anyway. Ended up buying the plugs and sockets and making the
thing myself at home.

Had putrid BO too. (I am NOT kidding either on this)

 

[Rob Judd]

Brian Goldsmith wrote:

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith

"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

So? Id you can search their catalogue online I don't know why they even
botherd, except maybe for the staff in their shops.

BTW, I bought a Radio Shack antenna from DSE yesterday. Poor old VK2DIK
will be spinning at that one.

Rob

 

[Rob Judd]

Doug Laidlaw wrote:

Brian Goldsmith wrote:

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith


"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

I called in to the local (Bendigo, Vic) store and wasn't even offered a
CD-ROM. There was supposed to be a CD-ROM attached to my 2001-2002
catalogue, but there is no sign that there ever was. They told me to look
on their Web site.

DSE in my opinion are now a store for the general public only, not for the
experimenter. They are going more and more to appliances - not whitegoods,
but radios, players, etc. Luckily I have just located the Jaycar reseller,
who has quite a range of components and kits. BTW, DSE now own Tandy, and
Tandy can look up DSE's stock lists, and tell you how many of anything DSE
has in stock. I *thought* that I had seen the same staff member in both
stores.

Doug.
--
Registered Linux user No. 277548.
Linux: in a world without fences, who needs Gates?

Heh.

BeOSRadio has a variation on that. "In a world full of Windows, we're
handing out rocks ..."

 

[Rod Speed]

"KLR" <kreed@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:0qq4jvsr8kjk3srh9hj29be2brojbjftl2@4ax.com...

Anyone know much about these things ?

Have had these implanted in both of my cats - according to sales blurb
I have seen in the past regarding such devices - animal implants
supposedly have a microprocessor, ram, rom and (obviously) radio
transmitter. (to me it sounds very much like a smart card with a
transmitter)

The vet wasn't of much help (i didnt expect him to know the tech
details) and his literature on the product was more along the lines of
its social benefits (ie: returning lost pets) and nothing on technical
details above the "dumb consumer" level. The unit implanted appeared
to be a small glass pellet slightly bigger than a grain of rice and
was injected at a fairly shallow depth in the cats back between the
shoulders.

Waving the hand held reader within about 3 inches or so of the implant
seemed sufficient to retrieve the data.

What I don't understand is why would a processor etc be
necessary on such a device ? Surely just transmitting a
serial number on demand is sufficient for this application ?

Yes, but a micro may well be the best way to do that.

Its not as though its a high security thing etc either ?

Sure. But it aint just high security situations where
the use of a micro is the most cost effective approach.

How are the things powered ? inductive
powering by the reader via a small coil inside ?

Presumably. Hard to see that it could be anything else.

 

[Rod Speed]

<David Sauer> wrote in message
news:7dg4jv0qo0s6ndv5hucngufb9fnrenkffn@4ax.com...

Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote

We have not produced a printed copy this year but
have instead produced a Catalogue on CD-Rom.

And on the web too.

Looks like its just going to be a Jaycar and Altronics
catalogue next to the crapper from now on.

Bugger, best flog my wooly's shares
before the stockmarket notices...

Can't afford to have a PC in the toilet.

Do the decent thing and top yourself or sumfin.

 

[Rod Speed]

"The real Andy" <ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:3f3223f9$0$15134$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote in message
news:8VoYa.18912$bo1.7314@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith


"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced
a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"



** BIG mistake - they will lose a huge amount of sales.

Farnell do not produce regular 3 vol massive catalogues for EVERY
customer for no reason.


In Melbourne,the Radio Parts Group dropped their printed catalogue about
two years ago.I am led to believe
they are about to reintroduce it.I wonder why?
Brian Goldsmith.

I'm sure if DSE have dropped the printed
version they will pick it up again shortly.

Wanna bet ?

They would be stupid not to..

They would be stupid to..

DSE might be all but useless for the electronics
trade now, but they are good for picking up the
odd 'jelly bean' component from time to time.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to use the CD or web site.

 

[Rod Speed]

Phil Allison <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f322f99$0$28119$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

David L. Jones <tronnort_@yahoo.com> wrote
Phil Allison

BIG mistake - they will lose a huge amount of sales.

I don't think do.

Only us electronics types tend to keep and refer to catalogs like that,
and we are most likely a very small proportion of their business now.

Yep, those can get much better prices from elsewhere.

And those who still use them for the convenience with a
common connector etc dont need the catalog for that anyway.

If you are correct

He is.

then printed catalogues are nowadays almost useless to DSE and Tandy

Yep, and even someone as stupid as you should be able to use
the web catalog or the CD catalog if you need to look something up.

- for 30 years they were an *essential* part of their marketing.

They have in fact been a completely trivial part of their marketing
for years now. Most of their sales come from their flyers and
those who just rock up at the physical shop for common stuff.

They have to rely on flyers,

Just like all the other retailers do. Funny that.

ads in mags and newspapers and their web site in future

And those who just rock up at the physical shop.

- since CD roms are universally ignored.

More utterly mindless silly stuff.

 

[Malcolm Moore]

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 10:47:19 GMT, tronnort_@yahoo.com (David L. Jones)
wrote:

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:13:40 +1000, "Phil Allison"
philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote in message
news:64oYa.18840$bo1.7412@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith

"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

** BIG mistake - they will lose a huge amount of sales.

I don't think do.
Only us electronics types tend to keep and refer to catalogs like
that, and we are most likely a very small proportion of their business
now. Most in our camp are probably cluey enough to use the web site or
an old catalog. Basic electronic bits tend not to change much between
catalogs, and that's all anyone like us would go to DSE for anyway. I
know plenty of people that happily use DSE catalogs 3-4 years out of
date.

Regards
Dave
---------------------------
(remove the "_" from my email address to reply)

The paper NZ catalogue disappeared back in May. However they have
produced a 48 page "Technical Data & Componentry" catalogue which
contains the obvious stuff from the old full catalogue. Free for trade
customers, $1 for joe public. A lot easier to find the component
required when there's not all the consumer products as well.
The only thing I use the CD catalogues for is where they are like RS
and have data sheets included, but for ordinary use paper is much
easier to deal with.

Regards
Malcolm.

 

[Rod Speed]

David Milne <dmmilne@ozemail.com.au> wrote in
message news:3F323475.1583F85C@ozemail.com.au...

Phil Allison wrote:

They have to rely on flyers, ads in mags and newspapers and their
web site in future - since CD roms are universally ignored.

Get ready for junk mail from DSE in your letterbox.

Been happening for years now. Nothing to do with the printed catalog.

 

[Rod Speed]

Bernd Felsche <bernie@innovative.iinet.net.au> wrote in
message news:nm9tgb.3mo.ln@innovative.iinet.net.au...

Brian Goldsmith <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> writes

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

"We have not produced a printed copy this year but
have instead produced a Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

Which means that only Windows users can "benefit".

Wrong. As always.

You'd have thought Woolworths would appreciate being able
to address the widest-possible market share, wouldn't you?

Even someone as stupid as you should have noticed
that Woolys doesnt have a PRINTED catalog either.

 

[Rod Speed]

KLR <kreed@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:nal4jvcjsun5l9kmtv224n0op8v1hs7sin@4ax.com...

Brian Goldsmith <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

"We have not produced a printed copy this year but
have instead produced a Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

How bloody ridiculous

How stupidly dinosaury.

It will certainly kill their catalogue sales to almost nil !!

Bet it wont. The few that buy stuff from a catalog
will just use their web site or cdrom. Many of use
have been using those for years now.

(that may or may not be important depending on what % of
their turnover is catalogue and what is store sales though)

Yep, fuck all buy using their PRINTED catalog.

I have yet to come across an electronic/web catalog
that is worth using compared to the paper one.

You dinosaurs can be that stupid...

 

[Brian Goldsmith]

<David Sauer> wrote

Looks like its just going to be a Jaycar and Altronics catalogue next
to the crapper from now on.

**** Gee,you are generous the way you continue to provide Rod Speeds breakfast everyday,FOC.

Brian Goldsmith.

 

[Mark van der Eynden]

"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote in message news:<64oYa.18840$bo1.7412@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith


"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

I hope their new CD catalogue is better than their effort of two years
ago.

It set you up for AOL installed IE and fiddled with your settings such
that some people couldn't surf properly anymore.

As someone who likes to curl up in bed with any nice new (Electronics)
catalogue and leaf through every page looking for some new 'goody' to
file away between my ears for future reference, I find this trend away
from printed catalogues will lower my 'gadget' value.

Cheers,

Mark

 

[Mike Harding]

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 15:36:07 GMT, KLR <kreed@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

Anyone know much about these things ?

My dog does, hang on I'll ask her.........

Waving the hand held reader within about 3 inches or so of the implant
seemed sufficient to retrieve the data.

What I don't understand is why would a processor etc be necessary on
such a device ? Surely just transmitting a serial number on demand is
sufficient for this application ? Its not as though its a high
security thing etc either ?

How are the things powered ? inductive powering by the reader via a
small coil inside ?

Right she said she thinks what happens is...

The reader produces a magnetic field which provides
enought power to start up the implant which in it's turn
sucks power from the mag. field at a rate/frequency/
pulse period whatever which bears some relationship
to the unique ID number these changes in the field
are sensed by the reader and translated into the ID.
She also thinks Dallas and/or Temic make the things.

Mike Harding

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:l0j5jv0t83cq3f4oqdo3e47p76dddbq7vq@4ax.com...

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 15:36:07 GMT, KLR <kreed@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

Anyone know much about these things ?

My dog does, hang on I'll ask her.........

Waving the hand held reader within about 3 inches or so of the implant
seemed sufficient to retrieve the data.

What I don't understand is why would a processor etc be necessary on
such a device ? Surely just transmitting a serial number on demand is
sufficient for this application ? Its not as though its a high
security thing etc either ?

How are the things powered ? inductive powering by the reader via a
small coil inside ?

Right she said she thinks what happens is...

The reader produces a magnetic field which provides
enought power to start up the implant which in it's turn
sucks power from the mag. field at a rate/frequency/
pulse period whatever which bears some relationship
to the unique ID number these changes in the field
are sensed by the reader and translated into the ID.
She also thinks Dallas and/or Temic make the things.

Mike Harding

Smart bitch, isn't she?

Ken

 

[Martin, VK2UMJ]

Without looking into it at all, I would presume it would be along similar
lines to the proxy detectors used in security applications, where the reader
transmits a low level rf signal and the id card (or implant) is passive.

At least it sounds like a similar concept that your dog is describing!!

Cheers

Martin

"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:l0j5jv0t83cq3f4oqdo3e47p76dddbq7vq@4ax.com...

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 15:36:07 GMT, KLR <kreed@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

Anyone know much about these things ?

My dog does, hang on I'll ask her.........

Waving the hand held reader within about 3 inches or so of the implant
seemed sufficient to retrieve the data.

What I don't understand is why would a processor etc be necessary on
such a device ? Surely just transmitting a serial number on demand is
sufficient for this application ? Its not as though its a high
security thing etc either ?

How are the things powered ? inductive powering by the reader via a
small coil inside ?

Right she said she thinks what happens is...

The reader produces a magnetic field which provides
enought power to start up the implant which in it's turn
sucks power from the mag. field at a rate/frequency/
pulse period whatever which bears some relationship
to the unique ID number these changes in the field
are sensed by the reader and translated into the ID.
She also thinks Dallas and/or Temic make the things.

Mike Harding

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[Ken Taylor]

"Martin, VK2UMJ" <vk2umj@REMOVEyahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:bgukf5$8da$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...

Without looking into it at all, I would presume it would be along similar
lines to the proxy detectors used in security applications, where the
reader
transmits a low level rf signal and the id card (or implant) is passive.

At least it sounds like a similar concept that your dog is describing!!

Cheers

Martin

Think CityLink.

Ken

"Mike Harding" <mike_harding1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:l0j5jv0t83cq3f4oqdo3e47p76dddbq7vq@4ax.com...
On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 15:36:07 GMT, KLR <kreed@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

Anyone know much about these things ?

My dog does, hang on I'll ask her.........

Waving the hand held reader within about 3 inches or so of the implant
seemed sufficient to retrieve the data.

What I don't understand is why would a processor etc be necessary on
such a device ? Surely just transmitting a serial number on demand is
sufficient for this application ? Its not as though its a high
security thing etc either ?

How are the things powered ? inductive powering by the reader via a
small coil inside ?

Right she said she thinks what happens is...

The reader produces a magnetic field which provides
enought power to start up the implant which in it's turn
sucks power from the mag. field at a rate/frequency/
pulse period whatever which bears some relationship
to the unique ID number these changes in the field
are sensed by the reader and translated into the ID.
She also thinks Dallas and/or Temic make the things.

Mike Harding



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