PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[Phil Allison]

"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote in message
news:64oYa.18840$bo1.7412@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith


"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

** BIG mistake - they will lose a huge amount of sales.

Farnell do not produce regular 3 vol massive catalogues for EVERY
customer for no reason.




.................... Phil

 

[Brian Goldsmith]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith


"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

** BIG mistake - they will lose a huge amount of sales.

Farnell do not produce regular 3 vol massive catalogues for EVERY
customer for no reason.


< In Melbourne,the Radio Parts Group dropped their printed catalogue about two years ago.I am led to believe
they are about to reintroduce it.I wonder why?>
Brian Goldsmith.

 

[David L. Jones]

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:10:16 +1000, "Phil Allison"
<philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

"David L. Jones" <tronnort_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3f320e16.1760018@News.CIS.DFN.DE...

Hi Glenn,
How about using a 3V reference diode in series?
Farnell have an LM4120 available, tempco is 50ppm.

** That is not a diode nor even a diode equivalent - it is a complex IC
voltage reference.

Glenn specified a "passive device".

By that I think he may mean a simple one component solution, which
this device is (ignoring the cap). Yes the LM4120 is not a simple
shunt reference diode, but it acts like one (with a few extra
features) and is available in a tiny SOT23-5 package.
I mentioned it because it's the only 3V device available from Farnell.

A 3V LM4040 type shunt reference would be the standard way to go if
you can get it.

Another LM335 is ideal.

That will change your volt/temp output characteristic, he may not want
that.

If he wants a fixed voltage drop that has a small tempco then a
reference diode/device is the best way to go.

Regards
Dave
---------------------------
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[Phil Allison]

"David L. Jones" <tronnort_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3f3218d7.4512867@News.CIS.DFN.DE...

Another LM335 is ideal.

That will change your volt/temp output characteristic, he may not want
that.

** The characteristic changes all right - it goes from +10.0 mV per K to
+20.0 mV per K.

Just awful - what ?

The 3.00 volt ref is a good solution, but excluded in Glenn's ( penny
pinching) conditions.




................. Phil

 

[Brian Goldsmith]

"David L. Jones" <tronnort_@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3f3218d7.4512867@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:10:16 +1000, "Phil Allison"
<philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

"David L. Jones" <tronnort_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3f320e16.1760018@News.CIS.DFN.DE...

Hi Glenn,
How about using a 3V reference diode in series?
Farnell have an LM4120 available, tempco is 50ppm.

** That is not a diode nor even a diode equivalent - it is a complex IC
voltage reference.

Glenn specified a "passive device".

By that I think he may mean a simple one component solution, which
this device is (ignoring the cap). Yes the LM4120 is not a simple
shunt reference diode, but it acts like one (with a few extra
features) and is available in a tiny SOT23-5 package.
I mentioned it because it's the only 3V device available from Farnell.

A 3V LM4040 type shunt reference would be the standard way to go if
you can get it.

Another LM335 is ideal.

That will change your volt/temp output characteristic, he may not want
that.

If he wants a fixed voltage drop that has a small tempco then a
reference diode/device is the best way to go.

Regards
Dave
---------------------------
(remove the "_" from my email address to reply)

 

[The real Andy]

"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote in message
news:8VoYa.18912$bo1.7314@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith


"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced
a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"



** BIG mistake - they will lose a huge amount of sales.

Farnell do not produce regular 3 vol massive catalogues for EVERY
customer for no reason.


In Melbourne,the Radio Parts Group dropped their printed catalogue about
two years ago.I am led to believe
they are about to reintroduce it.I wonder why?
Brian Goldsmith.

I'm sure if DSE have dropped the printed version they will pick it up again
shortly. They would be stupid not to.. DSE might be all but useless for the
electronics trade now, but they are good for picking up the odd 'jelly bean'
component from time to time.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote in message
news:_hpYa.18940

By that I think he may mean a simple one component solution,

** A Pentium 5 is a "one component solution".



........... Phil

 

[Rod Speed]

David L. Jones <tronnort_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3f320fa2.2155781@News.CIS.DFN.DE...

Brian Goldsmith <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Bout time.

We have not produced a printed copy this year but
have instead produced a Catalogue on CD-Rom.

And on the web too.

Dick Smith Electronics"

The end of an era more than anything...

Nope.

Obviously the bean counters have kicked in.

Or those with a clue have.

Upside? - good for the environment.
Downside? - not much, the data section was the only
useful thing, and for that an old catalog will suffice.

Even someone as stupid as you should
be able to use the CD or the web for that.

Who actually buys electronics bits from DSE anyway?

Those that provide their turnover, stupid.

As for having consumer items in the catalog, well they tend
to go out of date way before the next catalog is due anyway.

Thats what the web site is there for, stupid.

 

[The real Andy]

Fucken hell, like an old bunch of women at a CWA meeting. If he wants it
simple, then just use a resistor as Phil said. If he wants accuracy, then
fuck the LM335 off and use some decent technology.

 

[Rod Speed]

Phil Allison <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f32180a$0$28118$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Brian Goldsmith <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

"We have not produced a printed copy this year but
have instead produced a Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

BIG mistake - they will lose a huge amount of sales.

Wanna bet ?

Fuck all buy from the printed catalog.

Farnell do not produce regular 3 vol massive
catalogues for EVERY customer for no reason.

Pathetic, really.

Have fun explaining the great raft of operations
that dont bother with printed catalogs anymore.

 

[Rod Speed]

Graham <hurfy@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f31c232$1@news.alphalink.com.au...

how hard would it be to design something for the phone ( landline of course)
that, when it depicts that the callers number is blocked or whatever, starts
a recording saying that calls with blocked numbers wont be answered...
a very selective answring machine without the message taking facilities.....

Completely trivial to do with a PC.

I remember that some answering machines used to
have different answers for different callers a while back ...
Would need to answer the call almost straight away.

Completely trivial.

Telemarketers dont have much time.

They dont even do it personally, the calling is automated.

Would of course need to be a black box add on to the phone..

Completely trivial to do with a PC.

 

[Rod Speed]

"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:3f31c3bc$0$14564$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

"Graham" <hurfy@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f31c232$1@news.alphalink.com.au...


how hard would it be to design something for the phone ( landline of
course)
that, when it depicts that the callers number is blocked or whatever,
starts
a recording saying that calls with blocked numbers wont be answered...a
very
selective answring machine without the message taking facilities.....I
remember that some answering machines used to have different answers for
different callers a while back ...Would need to answer the call almost
straight away. Telemarketers dont have much time.
Would of course need to be a black box add on to the phone..


** I would love one of them myself.

The percentage of people who have blocked numbers is huge - most of
them do not realise their number is blocked or any idea how to unblock it
either. ( dial 1832 prior to the wanted number for a one time unblock )

And it can bite really badly if you dont watch out and one
of the relos etc is trying to call from the hospital to tell you
that your kid has just been run over by a bus etc.

Corse in your case, no one has ever been silly enough to let you
fuck them except those pathetic kids flogging their arses at the wall.

 

[Fred]

"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote in message news:mKmYa.18763$bo1.17219@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

"Doug Laidlaw" <laidlaws@myaccess.com.au> wrote

Do you mean that the caller's number comes up as "Private" on your number
display?

There seem to be plenty of devices in the U.S. that just ignore
these calls.

*** Doug,not too sure by what this last sentence means,could you elaborate.

The phone doesnt even ring with those.

 

[David L. Jones]

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 20:05:23 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
wrote:

David L. Jones <tronnort_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3f320fa2.2155781@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
Brian Goldsmith <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Bout time.

We have not produced a printed copy this year but
have instead produced a Catalogue on CD-Rom.

And on the web too.

Dick Smith Electronics"

The end of an era more than anything...

Nope.

Obviously the bean counters have kicked in.

Or those with a clue have.

Upside? - good for the environment.
Downside? - not much, the data section was the only
useful thing, and for that an old catalog will suffice.

Even someone as stupid as you should
be able to use the CD or the web for that.

Who actually buys electronics bits from DSE anyway?

Those that provide their turnover, stupid.

As for having consumer items in the catalog, well they tend
to go out of date way before the next catalog is due anyway.

Thats what the web site is there for, stupid.

Good to see you in fine form Rod!

Regards
Dave
---------------------------
(remove the "_" from my email address to reply)

 

[muzz]

a computer, caller id capable modem and software from this site
http://www.imptec.com/ is all you need.
works for me.


"Graham" <hurfy@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f31c232$1@news.alphalink.com.au...

how hard would it be to design something for the phone ( landline of
course)
that, when it depicts that the callers number is blocked or whatever,
starts
a recording saying that calls with blocked numbers wont be answered...a
very
selective answring machine without the message taking facilities.....I
remember that some answering machines used to have different answers for
different callers a while back ...Would need to answer the call almost
straight away. Telemarketers dont have much time.
Would of course need to be a black box add on to the phone..


cheers

Graham
--

 

[David L. Jones]

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:13:40 +1000, "Phil Allison"
<philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote in message
news:64oYa.18840$bo1.7412@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith

"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

** BIG mistake - they will lose a huge amount of sales.

I don't think do.
Only us electronics types tend to keep and refer to catalogs like
that, and we are most likely a very small proportion of their business
now. Most in our camp are probably cluey enough to use the web site or
an old catalog. Basic electronic bits tend not to change much between
catalogs, and that's all anyone like us would go to DSE for anyway. I
know plenty of people that happily use DSE catalogs 3-4 years out of
date.

Regards
Dave
---------------------------
(remove the "_" from my email address to reply)

 

[Phil Allison]

"David L. Jones" <tronnort_@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3f322c1d.9448192@News.CIS.DFN.DE...

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:13:40 +1000, "Phil Allison"

** BIG mistake - they will lose a huge amount of sales.

I don't think do.

Only us electronics types tend to keep and refer to catalogs like
that, and we are most likely a very small proportion of their business
now.

** If you are correct then printed catalogues are nowadays almost useless
to DSE and Tandy - for 30 years they were an *essential* part of their
marketing.

They have to rely on flyers, ads in mags and newspapers and their web
site in future - since CD roms are universally ignored.



.............. Phil

 

[David Milne]

Phil Allison wrote:

They have to rely on flyers, ads in mags and newspapers and their web
site in future - since CD roms are universally ignored.

............. Phil

Get ready for junk mail from DSE in your letterbox.

--


David Milne

 

[Doug Laidlaw]

Brian Goldsmith wrote:

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith


"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

I called in to the local (Bendigo, Vic) store and wasn't even offered a
CD-ROM. There was supposed to be a CD-ROM attached to my 2001-2002
catalogue, but there is no sign that there ever was. They told me to look
on their Web site.

DSE in my opinion are now a store for the general public only, not for the
experimenter. They are going more and more to appliances - not whitegoods,
but radios, players, etc. Luckily I have just located the Jaycar reseller,
who has quite a range of components and kits. BTW, DSE now own Tandy, and
Tandy can look up DSE's stock lists, and tell you how many of anything DSE
has in stock. I *thought* that I had seen the same staff member in both
stores.

Doug.
--
Registered Linux user No. 277548.
Linux: in a world without fences, who needs Gates?

 

[Kevin Martin]

Why not an answering machine? There used to be some around that only
gave out messages and were incapable of taking messages. Doctors and the
like use them when they just want to tell you to go to the Hospital for
emergencies, also to give the locum service number.

Kevin Martin

Graham wrote:

how hard would it be to design something for the phone ( landline of course)
that, when it depicts that the callers number is blocked or whatever, starts
a recording saying that calls with blocked numbers wont be answered...a very
selective answring machine without the message taking facilities.....I
remember that some answering machines used to have different answers for
different callers a while back ...Would need to answer the call almost
straight away. Telemarketers dont have much time.
Would of course need to be a black box add on to the phone..


cheers

Graham
--