PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[Steve]

Wanna bet ?

Fuck all buy from the printed catalog.

Wanna bet?!

As a public servant, borrowing a lease car and making the trip out to
a shop just to peruse the shelves is a lesson in utter frustration.
We rely totally on catalogues and phone calls. Sadly, ringing DSE and
asking a question about electronics is ALSO a futile exercise.

....not to say that DSE ever have what we need, but it's a million
times easier and quicker to pick up the catalogue and flick through 5
or 10 pages, (with the whole range and related products) than it is to
fart around with a CD rom.

....and it doesn't help me at home with my G4!!!

Have fun explaining the great raft of operations
that dont bother with printed catalogs anymore.

READ; gullible people waste time searching through poorly designed CD
roms just to find that DSE don't stock what they need when they should
have had the option of picking up the printed catalogue and finding
the info in a minute or two.

Dude, the Farnell CD rom has a multinational corporation behind it...
and IT STILL SUCKS! What chance have DSE got of making a user
friendly CD rom catalogue?!? If it's anything like their website,
I'll pass thanks!

The Jaycar site isn't any better, with that stupid "page has expired"
bullshit! NNNNNGGGHHHH! It's the only site I know that uses that
particularly annoying "feature" of IE.

Arpit wrote;

Yep, Most people I know who shop there, when they want something, go
to the shop, and ask a salesperson.

BWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!

oh that's a good one... asking DSE staff for help....
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

nifty

 

[MC]

And it can bite really badly if you dont watch out and one
of the relos etc is trying to call from the hospital to tell you
that your kid has just been run over by a bus etc.

Corse in your case, no one has ever been silly enough to let you
fuck them except those pathetic kids flogging their arses at the wall.

Sigh..
and you were so reasonable in your posting for about 2 days.
Oh well, I'll have to kill-list you in *this* newsgroup also.

 

[MC]

KLR wrote:

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 08:27:46 GMT, "Brian Goldsmith"
brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote:

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith


"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

How bloody ridiculous

It will certainly kill their catalogue sales to almost nil !!

(that may or may not be important depending on what % of their
turnover is catalogue and what is store sales though)

I have yet to come across an electronic/web catalog that is worth
using compared to the paper one.

I agree.,
It's a LOT easier and faster to compare different variants of a component
using a printed document... much more info in a smaller area.
Web-based stuff is fine if you already have a good idea of what you want.

 

[Rod Speed]

Steve <niftydog@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e28c5b43.0308071444.4fc74d14@posting.google.com...

Wanna bet ?

Fuck all buy from the printed catalog.

Wanna bet?!

Yep.

As a public servant, borrowing a lease car and making the trip out
to a shop just to peruse the shelves is a lesson in utter frustration.

Pity the PRINTED catalog aint the only way to avoid that.

We rely totally on catalogues and phone calls.

Typical completely unemployable shinybum.

Sadly, ringing DSE and asking a question
about electronics is ALSO a futile exercise.

Wrong. As always.

...not to say that DSE ever have what we need, but it's
a million times easier and quicker to pick up the catalogue
and flick through 5 or 10 pages, (with the whole range and
related products) than it is to fart around with a CD rom.

No wonder you're stuck in that pathetic sheltered workshop.

...and it doesn't help me at home with my G4!!!

Best do the decent thing and top yourself or sumfin.

Farnell do not produce regular 3 vol massive
catalogues for EVERY customer for no reason.

Pathetic, really.

Have fun explaining the great raft of operations
that dont bother with printed catalogs anymore.

READ; gullible people waste time searching
through poorly designed CD roms

Even a stupid unemployable shinybum should be able to work
out that the obvious fix for that is a well designed CD instead.

No wonder you're stuck in that pathetic sheltered workshop.

just to find that DSE don't stock what they need when
they should have had the option of picking up the printed
catalogue and finding the info in a minute or two.

You could even get real radical and use their web site.

If you werent a completely unemployable shinybum that is.

Dude, the Farnell CD rom has a multinational
corporation behind it... and IT STILL SUCKS!

Even a stupid shinybum should be able to grasp that just
because that particular CD is fucked says sweet fuck all
about whether its possible to do one much better.

Even a stupid shinybum should be able to grasp
that it must even be possible to have a CD thats
identical in every way to the printed catalog
except that its on the CD and not on paper.

No wonder you're stuck in that pathetic sheltered workshop.

What chance have DSE got of making
a user friendly CD rom catalogue?!?

Even a stupid shinybum should be able to
grasp that its more likely a small operation
can do it right, even if Farnell cant.

If it's anything like their website, I'll pass thanks!

They dont need your 'business', wanker.

The Jaycar site isn't any better, with that stupid "page has
expired" bullshit! NNNNNGGGHHHH! It's the only site I
know that uses that particularly annoying "feature" of IE.

Even a stupid shinybum should be able to grasp that if its the
only one that does that, it must be possible to do it much better.

Even a stupid shinybum should be able to grasp that if
most of the operations flogging computer stuff can do it
much better, no rocket science is required when flogging
the stuff that DSE flogs. If someone was ever stupid
enough to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane.

No wonder you're stuck in that pathetic sheltered workshop.

Arpit wrote;

Yep, Most people I know who shop there, when they
want something, go to the shop, and ask a salesperson.

BWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!

Even a stupid shinybum should be able to do better than that pathetic effort.

oh that's a good one... asking DSE staff for help....
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

See above.

 

[Fred]

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
MC <mc@non.existant.place> wrote in message
news:3F32DD57.AAE8B31D@non.existant.place...
just the puerile shit thats all it can ever manage.

 

[Franc Zabkar]

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 15:36:07 GMT, KLR <kreed@bigpond.net.au> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

Anyone know much about these things ?

Atmel, to name just one manufacturer, make an RF ID version of the
popular 24C08 serial EEPROM. This is used in Thinkpad laptops, for
example.

See http://www.atmel.com/products/RFID/

I have no idea whether these devices form the basis for pet
microchips, though.


- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.

 

[Daniel Franklin]

Franc Zabkar wrote:

Atmel, to name just one manufacturer, make an RF ID version of the
popular 24C08 serial EEPROM. This is used in Thinkpad laptops, for
example.

See http://www.atmel.com/products/RFID/

I have no idea whether these devices form the basis for pet
microchips, though.

I've always wanted to get one of these implanted in my arm... the ultimate
keyless entry system

- Daniel
--
******************************************************************************
* Daniel Franklin - Postdoctoral research fellow, TITR Institute
* University of Wollongong, NSW, Australia * d.franklin@ieee.org
******************************************************************************

 

[Arpit]

Have a look at last months silicon chip, lots of info about rfid tags

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 15:36:07 GMT, KLR <kreed@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

Anyone know much about these things ?

Have had these implanted in both of my cats - according to sales blurb
I have seen in the past regarding such devices - animal implants
supposedly have a microprocessor, ram, rom and (obviously) radio
transmitter. (to me it sounds very much like a smart card with a
transmitter)

The vet wasn't of much help (i didnt expect him to know the tech
details) and his literature on the product was more along the lines of
its social benefits (ie: returning lost pets) and nothing on technical
details above the "dumb consumer" level. The unit implanted appeared
to be a small glass pellet slightly bigger than a grain of rice and
was injected at a fairly shallow depth in the cats back between the
shoulders.

Waving the hand held reader within about 3 inches or so of the implant
seemed sufficient to retrieve the data.

What I don't understand is why would a processor etc be necessary on
such a device ? Surely just transmitting a serial number on demand is
sufficient for this application ? Its not as though its a high
security thing etc either ?

How are the things powered ? inductive powering by the reader via a
small coil inside ?

 

[Arpit]

On 7 Aug 2003 15:44:32 -0700, niftydog@hotmail.com (Steve) wrote:

<snip>

Arpit wrote;
Yep, Most people I know who shop there, when they want something, go
to the shop, and ask a salesperson.

BWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!

oh that's a good one... asking DSE staff for help....
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

Most people who go into Dick smith don't want to know which headphone
connector will work for their BBC micro, or want to splice together
some ethernet cables. THey'll want a cordless phone, or a new
compputer game.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Arpit" <DONTSPAMMEF00Lneko4@dodo.com.au> wrote in message

Most people who go into Dick smith don't want to know which headphone
connector will work for their BBC micro, or want to splice together
some ethernet cables. THey'll want a cordless phone, or a new
compputer game.

** When visiting DSE stores I constantly see down-trodden staffers trying
to answer customer's requests for solutions to their electronics problems.
Anything from the use of connectors and adaptors for TV, hi-fi, VCRs DVDs
to how to fix a snowy or ghosty TV picture. Mostly they handle the queries
very well and with enormous patience - sometimes they even manage to sell
something.

The catalogues sitting on the counter are always well worn looking -
the staff use them constantly to find catalogue numbers to enter when doing
the invoices. Lately I see them using the on-line catalogue for the same
purpose and it invariably takes much longer and is more prone to error.
Plus the customer cannot see a damn thing of what is going on and you have
to inspect the invoice VERY carefully for errors before you leave the store.

It is going to be fun with no catalogues to use to prove that there is
an error.



............... Phil

 

[Fred]

"MC" <mc@non.existant.place> wrote in message news:3F32DFFE.BE431839@non.existant.place...

KLR wrote:

On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 08:27:46 GMT, "Brian Goldsmith"
brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote:

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian Goldsmith


"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead produced a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

How bloody ridiculous

It will certainly kill their catalogue sales to almost nil !!

(that may or may not be important depending on what % of their
turnover is catalogue and what is store sales though)

I have yet to come across an electronic/web catalog that is worth
using compared to the paper one.

I agree.,

More fool you..

It's a LOT easier and faster to compare different
variants of a component using a printed document...

Complete and utter drivel.

much more info in a smaller area.

Complete and utter drivel. And normally the bits you want
to compare occupy a trivial amount of space anyway, and
arent cluttered up with crap from bits you arent comparing.

Web-based stuff is fine if you already
have a good idea of what you want.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to
grasp that a web based system can be organised
in exactly the same way as the paper catalog.

 

[Graham]

--
Do you mean that the caller's number comes up as "Private" on your number

display says either Private or unavailable

gra

display? There seem to be plenty of devices in the U.S. that just ignore
these calls. In my experience however, a small percentage are important
calls you would want to take. It is worth taking the others to get these.

Doug VK3KDI.
--
Registered Linux user No. 277548.
Linux: in a world without fences, who needs Gates?

 

[The real Andy]

Some pathetic wanker cowering behind "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
dribbled out some crap in message
news:bgudit$sajln$1@ID-69072.news.uni-berlin.de...

"The real Andy" <ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f3223f9$0$15134$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
"Brian Goldsmith" <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote in message
news:8VoYa.18912$bo1.7314@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

Brian
Goldsmith


"We have not produced a printed copy this year but have instead
produced
a
Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"



** BIG mistake - they will lose a huge amount of sales.

Farnell do not produce regular 3 vol massive catalogues for
EVERY
customer for no reason.


In Melbourne,the Radio Parts Group dropped their printed catalogue
about
two years ago.I am led to believe
they are about to reintroduce it.I wonder why?
Brian
Goldsmith.

I'm sure if DSE have dropped the printed
version they will pick it up again shortly.

Wanna bet ?

Yep

They would be stupid not to..

They would be stupid to..

You are stupid to think they won't

DSE might be all but useless for the electronics
trade now, but they are good for picking up the
odd 'jelly bean' component from time to time.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to use the CD or web site.

Yeah, if you have those facilities available at that time dickhead. Even
someone as stupid as you should realise that when you are desperate enought
to buy something from dick smith its cause you want it in a hurry (usually
on site) and dont have time to fuck around with CD's and web access.

 

[Alex Gibson]

"jabboo" <jabboo@(nospam)optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:3f30d335$0$15132$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

that's a brilliant idea
I even think I have one
they will accept 12v wont they ?

so I connect the output from the circuit into the uln2803
then the output from the 2803 into the relay
ill go try it

--
Anthony Jabbour

2803 50V 500mA TTL-input NPN darlington driver
http://server108.hypermart.net/nelniech/nelniech/ULN2803-D.pdf

http://www.southwest.com.au/~jfuller/electronics/integrated.htm

http://www.fat2000.hu/chipdir/giicm/uln2803.txt

also could use a uln2003

output 50v 500mA

http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~ih/doc/stepper/control2/2003.html

http://www.allegromicro.com/datafile/2001.pdf see this for applications

http://personal.telefonica.terra.es/web/x-robotics/downloads/datasheets/uln2003.pdf

Alex

 

[KLR]

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 13:47:14 +1000, "Phil Allison"
<philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

"Arpit" <DONTSPAMMEF00Lneko4@dodo.com.au> wrote in message

Most people who go into Dick smith don't want to know which headphone
connector will work for their BBC micro, or want to splice together
some ethernet cables. THey'll want a cordless phone, or a new
compputer game.


** When visiting DSE stores I constantly see down-trodden staffers trying
to answer customer's requests for solutions to their electronics problems.
Anything from the use of connectors and adaptors for TV, hi-fi, VCRs DVDs
to how to fix a snowy or ghosty TV picture. Mostly they handle the queries
very well and with enormous patience - sometimes they even manage to sell
something.

The catalogues sitting on the counter are always well worn looking -
the staff use them constantly to find catalogue numbers to enter when doing
the invoices. Lately I see them using the on-line catalogue for the same
purpose and it invariably takes much longer and is more prone to error.
Plus the customer cannot see a damn thing of what is going on and you have
to inspect the invoice VERY carefully for errors before you leave the store.

It is going to be fun with no catalogues to use to prove that there is
an error.

That will be a bonus for DS then. their word will stand if there is a

dispute.

.............. Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"KLR" <kreed@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:8rm6jvsm2kdnqjcdq8fbcteij93432gnjo@4ax.com...

Phil wrote :

It is going to be fun with no catalogues to use to prove that there
is
an error.

That will be a bonus for DS then. their word will stand if there is a
dispute.

** Nasty situations will arise in stores if they do NOT provide access to
the CD rom catalogue for all customers. The present set up using a PC
screen ( as the cash register ) that ONLY the staffer can see is ridiculous.

Only a half witted software geek would expect that to work.



................ Phil

 

[Alex Gibson]

"KLR" <kreed@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news:0qq4jvsr8kjk3srh9hj29be2brojbjftl2@4ax.com...

Anyone know much about these things ?

Have had these implanted in both of my cats - according to sales blurb
I have seen in the past regarding such devices - animal implants
supposedly have a microprocessor, ram, rom and (obviously) radio
transmitter. (to me it sounds very much like a smart card with a
transmitter)

The vet wasn't of much help (i didnt expect him to know the tech
details) and his literature on the product was more along the lines of
its social benefits (ie: returning lost pets) and nothing on technical
details above the "dumb consumer" level. The unit implanted appeared
to be a small glass pellet slightly bigger than a grain of rice and
was injected at a fairly shallow depth in the cats back between the
shoulders.

Waving the hand held reader within about 3 inches or so of the implant
seemed sufficient to retrieve the data.

What I don't understand is why would a processor etc be necessary on
such a device ? Surely just transmitting a serial number on demand is
sufficient for this application ? Its not as though its a high
security thing etc either ?

How are the things powered ? inductive powering by the reader via a
small coil inside ?

Wan't just for animals, a while back supposedly the US miltiary was looking at using
using them instead of dog tags.

Also there is / was a company that implants tags containing
medical history or an id to use to pull up a patients medical history
from a online database for those who are frequently in and out of hospital or those at risk.

Don't think they operate here in Australia yet.

Alex

 

[Rod Speed]

Some silly little wanker desperately cowering behind
The dud Andy <ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f334de0$0$4189$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
just the puerile shit thats all it can ever manage.

 

[Rod Speed]

Graham <hurfy@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f333317@news.alphalink.com.au...

muzz <bocco@wn.spamxcom.au> wrote

a computer, caller id capable modem and software
from this site http://www.imptec.com/ is all you need.
works for me.

which mean that I need the computer on 24hrs a day..

Anyone with any sense does that already, stupid.

how do I receive calls? I'm on dialup...

Then you dont need to bother with those calls, stupid.

but I will indeed check it out..thanks

"Graham" <hurfy@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f31c232$1@news.alphalink.com.au...

how hard would it be to design something for the phone ( landline of
course)
that, when it depicts that the callers number is blocked or whatever,
starts
a recording saying that calls with blocked numbers wont be answered...a
very
selective answring machine without the message taking facilities.....I
remember that some answering machines used to have different answers for
different callers a while back ...Would need to answer the call almost
straight away. Telemarketers dont have much time.
Would of course need to be a black box add on to the phone..


cheers

Graham
--

 

[AWS]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:bgudro$s8rml$1@ID-69072.news.uni-berlin.de...

AWS <aws@nospam.net.au> wrote in message
news:3f322d72$0$95042$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
Phil Allison <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote
Brian Goldsmith <brian.goldsmith@nospamecho1.com.au> wrote

The following has been received from DSE,comments?

"We have not produced a printed copy this year but
have instead produced a Catalogue on CD-Rom.

Dick Smith Electronics"

BIG mistake - they will lose a huge amount of sales.

Wanna bet ?

Fuck all buy from the printed catalog.

CRAP!

Yep, you've always been full of that.

Customers always use a cat to find products.!

Most dont, and most that do use a cat dont use a PRINTED catalog.

Not everyone wants to go online or look it up on a computer.

Yes, there will always be some that stupid.

What matters is whether what they buy from
DSE comes to anything like what it costs to
produce the PRINTED catalog, stupid.

Farnell do not produce regular 3 vol massive
catalogues for EVERY customer for no reason.

Pathetic, really.

Have fun explaining the great raft of operations
that dont bother with printed catalogs anymore.

There are a number of people who wont give too rats,
they shop on line, or they use the CD rom, but the Majority
of people read and check details out of a Cataloge.

Complete pack of lies with DSE and their PRINTED catalog.

Personally though I do think it is Great! As Iam
Jaycar dealer and its just another nail in thier Coffin..

Wanna bet ?

The absolute vast bulk of the sales by DSE aint
done to those who look up the PRINTED catalog first.

Your right, Cause they only buy TOYS from DSE.!!!