PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

[Rod Speed]

"KLR" <kreed@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message news543gvs3kbu7n31elhkji9l8roo72scu51@4ax.com...

On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 20:19:12 +1000, "Mike" <mike@(nospam).com.au
wrote:


"Phil Allison" <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f015cff$0$31276$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

"Mike" <mike@(nospam).com.au


I found out that they have made another error apart from the spelling
mistakes and the prices on the cap sale were also misprinted. If any are
interesting then ring and they can tell you the correct price and its
proper
order code. I was told they have a list available of the real sale
prices.


** I did phone Farnell prior to making my post and tried to explain
to
the technical advice guy the obvious stupidity of what had been printed in
the flyer. The dope was slow to comprehend and then more than slightly
hostile - like it was his own mistake I was pointing out.

There is NO point in knowing the normal order code - every item
in
the flyer has a special code so Farnell know YOU are ordering from the
latest flyer.

The problem is having NO fucking idea WHICH cap is being offered.



................. Phil
Oh well, It worked for me sorry it didn't for you. I told them what I was
interested in and they gave me a price and what order code it was in the
catalogue so I could check all the specs.
Mike

Why should you have to go to all that trouble - and especially for
loads of different part nos ? Farnell is supposed to be an
organisation catering to the professional market - not a discount
store with a "bargain bin of caps out the front that you are supposed
to take "pot luck with"

I would imagine that most of its potential buyers would want to see
reasonable info on these parts before buying and not have to stuff
round trying to get it.

Professional people and business people also do not have the time to
waste on the phone like this - regardless of if its a 13xxx number or
not. Time is $$$.


could it be an attitude???

Yep. Sounds like attitude of the tech advice guy here was definitely
a problem.

IE: Someone on a help desk being "more than slightly hostile" to a
customer is a NO NO".

Wouldnt be too surprising given Allison's approach tho.

Piss of the wrong customer/buyer like
this and you could lose millions in sales.

And its more than a tad unlikely that anyone responsible
for megabucks of sales would be ringing them and
attacking them like Allison certainly did.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bdsplf$10h7ip$1@ID-69072.news.dfncis.de...

Its as completely irrelevant as your pig ignorant spew.

** Robot logic.....


Rule 1. The Robot is never wrong.

Rule 2. When in doubt see rule 1.





............. Phil

 

[Rod Speed]

Some completely unemployable terminal fuckwit claiming to be
Phil Allison <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f021d94$0$30818$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
just the puerile derivative shit it always ends up having to
resort to when its got done like a dinner, yet again.

No wonder its completely unemployable.

 

[Rod Speed]

Some completely unemployable fuckwit claiming to be
Phil Allison <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f021c87$0$30817$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote

Yep. Sounds like attitude of the tech
advice guy here was definitely a problem.

IE: Someone on a help desk being "more than
slightly hostile" to a customer is a NO NO".

Wouldnt be too surprising given Allison's approach tho.

The Robot presumes too much.

Wrong. As always.

And its more than a tad unlikely that anyone responsible
for megabucks of sales would be ringing them and
attacking them like Allison certainly did.

He presumes far too much.

Wrong. As always.

BTW The tech advice guys are not salesmen.

All completely and utterly irrelevant.

 

[Ross Herbert]

Phil Allison wrote:

Of course, you are right Phil. I was trying to say that the OP should
also be entitled to the information about the driver and that the police
should provide it to him, even though he was the 4th party. We know he
is not likely to get it from them.

** No way. The police SAW the damage done to the power pole - no
doubt about the interested parties there.

Then some *nobody* rings the station saying his VCR is kaput and wants
driver details of the accident ????

It would be totally improper for the police to give them out.

Yes, I discovered this is true even if the householder is the 3rd party,
ie. when only a vehicle and the power pole are involved (thus making the
home owner the 3rd party). Police will not give information to anyone
not involved in the incident, except in the case of an insurer who is
acting for a party who has suffered some damage. In that case the
insurer can not pass the driver details to the insured party, but can
only use it in an attempt at recovery of costs in respect to the insured
party's property.

Further to the issue, the OP might check his home insurance policy to
see what it says about vehicle impact.

** He already said he was NOT insured.

Point taken. So unless he can find out the driver details by some means
or other and then mount a private action he has no recourse and must
wear the cost of repairs to his appliances.

According to RAC Insurance in WA
they say they will cover damage to electrical appliances caused by
vehicle impact to a power pole and they don't usually try to recover
costs from the driver's insurance company. He might like to have a chat
with his home insurer about the situation. I was also told that
insurance company's can obtain driver details from police in such
incidents for a fee.

** Was that a "fee" or a "bribe" ?? ....... ;-)

Yes, it could be taken that way I suppose.


Ross Herbert

 

[Phil Allison]

"Ross Herbert" <rherber1@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:3F028256.EC6EF868@bigpond.net.au...

Further to the issue, the OP might check his home insurance policy to
see what it says about vehicle impact.

** He already said he was NOT insured.

Point taken. So unless he can find out the driver details by some means
or other and then mount a private action he has no recourse and must
wear the cost of repairs to his appliances.

** Have you stopped to consider the driver of the car that hit the pole and
knocked it down ? He or she is likely to be very seriously injured - so
would any passengers. There is NOTHING here to say the incident was his or
her fault - he or she may have been forced off the road by something or
someone.

Power poles on roadsides are a MAJOR hazard to road users - innocent
and guilty alike.

He or she may have no third party property insurance too.

OTOH Energex chooses, on cost grounds , to have no overvoltage
protection on customer's premises in case of accidents like this or even
trees falling or the effects of storms and high winds etc etc.

So who was really negligent ?????



............. Phil

 

[Ross Herbert]

saz@bigpond.net.au wrote:

Hi guys,

I was wondring where I could get a crimper for insulated terminal . I
want to crimp 8 and 4 awg cables using ring terminals.

I know jaycar sells the terminals but I cannot find a crimper for
4awg cables.

The crimpers I have will do up to 6mm which is the best i could find.
I don't want to spend too much..
maybe around 50 bucks..

thanks

I think you are not really talking about 4 AWG conductors. This guage
equates to a metric size of 27.3 sq mm or a copper conductor of 5.9mm
diameter (not including insulation). All of the pre-insulated crimp
terminals I am aware of cater for a max x-sectional area of 6 sq mm
conductors as indicated in the Jaycar catalogue. If you are talking
about the lugs on these pages then any standard crimper for red, blue
and yellow insulated terminals will do the job, such as Jaycar TH-1829.
Here is the Tyco (was Utilux) range of pre-insulated ring terminals
http://www.tycoelectronics.com.au/brands/utilux/products/indprod/preinsulated_ring_terminals
so you can see for yourself.

Find out exactly what size cables you have then ask again.


Ross Herbert

 

[Phil Allison]

"Ross Herbert" <rherber1@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:3F02948D.3A3788B5@bigpond.net.au...

Phil Allison wrote:

"Ross Herbert" <rherber1@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:3F028256.EC6EF868@bigpond.net.au...

Further to the issue, the OP might check his home insurance policy
to
see what it says about vehicle impact.

** He already said he was NOT insured.

Point taken. So unless he can find out the driver details by some
means
or other and then mount a private action he has no recourse and must
wear the cost of repairs to his appliances.

** Have you stopped to consider the driver of the car that hit the pole
and
knocked it down ? He or she is likely to be very seriously injured -
so
would any passengers. There is NOTHING here to say the incident was
his or
her fault - he or she may have been forced off the road by something or
someone.

Power poles on roadsides are a MAJOR hazard to road users -
innocent
and guilty alike.

He or she may have no third party property insurance too.

OTOH Energex chooses, on cost grounds , to have no overvoltage
protection on customer's premises in case of accidents like this or even
trees falling or the effects of storms and high winds etc etc.

So who was really negligent ?????


Phil, all of these issues you raise may be relevant but are secondary to
the issue raised by the OP,

** No - they are crucial.

There is NO point in trying to sue a party who may not be liable or
guilty of negligence, maybe has no insurance, is about to die etc.

There is *every* point in going after Energrex since they are the obvious
target and may pay up with no quibble which I have constantly recommended.




.............. Phil

 

[Ross Herbert]

Phil Allison wrote:

Phil, all of these issues you raise may be relevant but are secondary to
the issue raised by the OP,

** No - they are crucial.

If you wish to think of it in this manner then you are free to do so.

There is NO point in trying to sue a party who may not be liable or
guilty of negligence, maybe has no insurance, is about to die etc.

There is *every* point in going after Energrex since they are the obvious
target and may pay up with no quibble which I have constantly recommended.

In view of the fact that electricity supply authorities, such as
Energex, have been created subject to acts of parliament, and that other
acts have now been passed covering civil liability of such authorised
bodies,
http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LEGISLTN/SUPERSED/C/CivilLiabA03_00A_021202.pdf
I would be interested to see if anybody could find a loophole via which
a successful action against Energex (for example) could be mounted in
order to recoup losses for damage to electrical appliances caused as a
result of vehicle impact with one of their power poles, let alone
personal injury to vehicle occupants. From what I can see Energex (or
other such authority) have indemnity against almost any liability unless
it can be shown that they have breached their duty of care or are guilty
of gross negligence of one kind or another. I would be interested to see
if someone is brave enough to act on your recommendation to sue Energex.
They would need to have deep pockets....

Ross Herbert

 

[Phil Allison]

"Ross Herbert" <rherber1@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:3F02A4AB.CCA075EA@bigpond.net.au...

Phil Allison wrote:


Phil, all of these issues you raise may be relevant but are secondary
to
the issue raised by the OP,

** No - they are crucial.

If you wish to think of it in this manner then you are free to do so.

** Go get fucked Ross.

There is NO point in trying to sue a party who may not be liable or
guilty of negligence, maybe has no insurance, is about to die etc.

There is *every* point in going after Energrex since they are the
obvious
target and may pay up with no quibble which I have constantly
recommended.

(snip shite )

I would be interested to see if someone is brave enough to act on your
recommendation to sue Energex.

** I said "go after" - not "sue ". Learn to read Ross

I told the OP to make a formal claim, then if ignored contact the
official industry body ( EPCO ) who can arbitrate ( small ) claims for
compensation.

You are way off the mark as usual Ross - I do seriously believe you
are mentally ill.




............... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

<papillon123@remove_to_email_foobox.net> wrote in message
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Electric oven/rangetop.

** Well - I suppose it could have been a gas one and utterly off topic.



....... Phil

 

[ZAussieblue]

It must have been Eastwood see
http://www.eastwoodcompany.com/aspfiles/itemdy00.asp?UID=2003070207424717&T1=25008&I1.x=50&I1.y=83
and it must have been a few years ago (OK 15 years maybe). I
can recommend Eastwood as I find they deliver quicker to
Australia than most US companies and seem to have cheaper Fedex
rates than others.

--
Regards
Blue

Remove Z from email address to reply directly.

 

[Ross Herbert]

ZAussieblue wrote:

Like this http://www.electroauto.com/catalog/tools.shtml

--
Regards
Blue

Yes, but the OP wants pre-insulated ring terminals.

 

[skozzy]

Well here is some more info for you all to stew over.

5 people in the car, the driver was 17yo, no licience, driving a V8
commodore, going by the skid marks (aprox 100+ meters) was surely speeding.
Girl thrown from the car, driver has broken legs and ribs or something
similar, 1 trapped, 2 hopped out of the car.

The wires on this pole fall down, directly above and down the road several
meters is a main HT link to the west (11kv or 33kv not sure here), rumor has
it that a spark from the Ht lines went into the 240v grid, passing through
and distroying several transformers, blowing as many street lights as there
are houses in the 7 suburbs, affecting I would say 15,000+ homes. Everyone
awake at the time heard a very loud bang, saw a big flash in the sky, and
also heard an extremly loud hum at the time the power increased.

Between my place and the accident scene there seems to be about 5 pole
mounted transformers, I m assuming that by the time it gets to my place the
transformers should have shut down, or exploded or sat idle. Which ever is
the case, how far could a 11kv or 33kv burst go??.

Also, Energex is still saying they won't even help or assist in any way
trying to get information to help seek compensation.

Eveyone in my street that I have spoken to have had something damaged, one
house might have 1 item, another might have 50%+ damaged.If you ask me, it
was a very big surge.

Hey, and thanks to everyone that has put input into this thred.

-Andrew

 

[ZAussieblue]

They'll still works and in most cases won't pierce the
insulation.

--
Regards
Blue

Remove Z from email address to reply directly.

 

[Phil Allison]

"Ross Herbert" <rherber1@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:3F02C6E1.408A942E@bigpond.net.au...

Phil Allison wrote:

Snip Phil's waffle

** Fuck you - Ross.

Again you selectively choose to ignore all of the evidence which has a
definite and direct bearing on the likelihood of ANY sort of
compensation hearing (SCT or civil action) against Energex in the type

** I see no relevant evidence - Ross.

The legislation pointed to was> specifically enacted to ensure actions
alleging civil liability against
public authorities (as well as other persons etc) would have little
chance of success and if you can't understand that simple fact then
you
do need help.

** No such legislation exists - Ross.

Obviously you can't decipher the previous link to the Queensland Civil
Liability Act of 2003 so here is the final version which took effect in
December 2002
http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LEGISLTN/ACTS/2003/03AC016.pdf

Section 34 - 36 is the relevant part.

** There is no relevance at all there - Ross.

I won't comment on your "mentally ill" remark since it is simply an
indication that you are once again showing the desperation of a well
hooked and floundering fish.

** You are mentally ill - Ross.

I have spoken with you on the phone recently and you were off with
the
fairies - Ross.

You mean to say the last time you contacted me by phone, completely
unsolicited, I might add, - as you did in the first instance last year.

** Yes - a telephone was the implement I chose.

I believe you are more than a little familiar with the device.

As an ex Telstra cast off I suppose it has some bad memories.

Try as I might I find it quite difficult to hold a meaningful discussion
with someone whose attention is not welcome in the first place.

** That is desperate stuff - Ross.

Your obsessive attention to my posts here is very far from welcome -
Ross.

Your obsessiveness is really quite weird - Ross.

Your mental condition has deteriorated, quite noticeably - Ross.

You find it difficult to be rational with anyone - Ross.

You are off with the pixies .



.............. Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

"skozzy" <NOSPAMCRAPskozzy@hotmailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:3f02cab6_1@news.iprimus.com.au...

Well here is some more info for you all to stew over.

5 people in the car, the driver was 17yo, no licience, driving a V8
commodore, going by the skid marks (aprox 100+ meters) was surely
speeding.
Girl thrown from the car, driver has broken legs and ribs or something
similar, 1 trapped, 2 hopped out of the car.

** Well - forget going after the driver, you will get no blood from
the stoned.

I hope the girl who was thrown out is not now paraplegic.

Also, Energex is still saying they won't even help or assist in any way
trying to get information to help seek compensation.

** Have you tried approaching EPCO yet ??

The local paper may be interested too - ring them with your story.

Watch Energex respond pronto to the journalist's enquiries - if my
experiences with Integral here in Sydney are anything to go by.




............ Phil

 

4 years to train a sparkie - sounds fair enough.

Year one - the blue wire.
Year two - the brown wire.
Year three - the green and yellow wire.
Year four - all the wires at the same time.


just joking - I wont wire up my house if they don't "fix" their tv's

 

[Rod Speed]

Phil Allison <philallison@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3f0287dd$0$30822$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

Ross Herbert <rherber1@bigpond.net.au> wrote

Further to the issue, the OP might check his home
insurance policy to see what it says about vehicle impact.

He already said he was NOT insured.

Point taken. So unless he can find out the driver details by
some means or other and then mount a private action he has
no recourse and must wear the cost of repairs to his appliances.

Have you stopped to consider the driver of the car that hit
the pole and knocked it down ? He or she is likely to be
very seriously injured - so would any passengers. There is
NOTHING here to say the incident was his or her fault - he or she
may have been forced off the road by something or someone.

Sure, but they can pass the claim on to
whoever cause their car to hit the pole.

Just like with any complicated accident.

Power poles on roadsides are a MAJOR hazard
to road users - innocent and guilty alike.

Sure, but most customers of power companys wouldnt
be interested in paying for underground power.

He or she may have no third party property insurance too.

His problem if he did cause the accident.

OTOH Energex chooses, on cost grounds , to have no overvoltage
protection on customer's premises in case of accidents like this or
even trees falling or the effects of storms and high winds etc etc.

Just not feasible to 'protect' against the 11KV line dropping onto
the 240V lines, so that no electronic device will ever get damaged.

So who was really negligent ?????

Whoever caused the car to hit the pole.

 

[Rod Speed]

skozzy <NOSPAMCRAPskozzy@hotmailNOSPAM.com>
wrote in message news:3f02cab6_1@news.iprimus.com.au...

Well here is some more info for you all to stew over.

And for you choosing to not have insurance |-)

5 people in the car, the driver was 17yo, no licience,

Oops, just what you need insurance for.

driving a V8 commodore, going by the skid marks (aprox
100+ meters) was surely speeding. Girl thrown from the
car, driver has broken legs and ribs or something similar,

Stupid kids...

1 trapped, 2 hopped out of the car.

The wires on this pole fall down, directly above and down the
road several meters is a main HT link to the west (11kv or 33kv
not sure here), rumor has it that a spark from the Ht lines went
into the 240v grid, passing through and distroying several
transformers, blowing as many street lights as there are
houses in the 7 suburbs, affecting I would say 15,000+ homes.

Fark. Dont expect Energex will be paying for all the damage in all
those houses any time soon unless monstered to do that by the govt.

Everyone awake at the time heard a very loud
bang, saw a big flash in the sky, and also heard an
extremly loud hum at the time the power increased.

Wonder why ? |-)

Between my place and the accident scene there
seems to be about 5 pole mounted transformers,

Your supply would only have been off one of those.

I m assuming that by the time it gets to my place the
transformers should have shut down, or exploded or sat idle.

The ones you are supplied from are irrelevant.

Which ever is the case, how far could a 11kv or 33kv burst go??.

God knows.

Also, Energex is still saying they won't even help or assist in
any way trying to get information to help seek compensation.

And that would be completely pointless
anyway, even if Packer was that kid's dad.

Eveyone in my street that I have spoken to have had something
damaged, one house might have 1 item, another might have
50%+ damaged.If you ask me, it was a very big surge.

Yeah, there aint much that likes 11KV or 33KV much.

> Hey, and thanks to everyone that has put input into this thred.