PRC as a amplifier in GPS question.

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Eeyore" wrote
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote

Name ONE country we 'raped'.

Three...

What is now known as The United States Of America

Raped ? In what way ?

"no taxation without representation".
That is not the definition of rape.

FYI, plans were afoot to change the tax situation but events overcame them.

Graham
 
Arny Krueger wrote:

"Iain Churches" wrote
"Eeyore" wrote

I'd love to see an American history book. They must get
these ideas from somewhere.

The Scandinavian nations in general seem to hold the US
in rather low esteem.

It is known as "Ankle Biting".

There are often comparisons in the
Swedish press of American and Scandinavian educational
systems, social policies, salary levels, political
structure, etc etc.

More ankle biting.

Most of the smarter, more industrious Scandinavians emigrated to the US
decades ago. Who cares what those laggards that are left behind think?
Laggards ?

Volvo (who own Mack for starters).
Saab AB (heavily into aerospace)
ABB (Asea Brown Boveri - one of the largest engineering companies in the
world and heavily into electrical power engineering)

All top players in their respective leagues.

Graham
 
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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in
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What is now known as The United States Of America

Raped ? In what way ?

"no taxation without representation".
That is an interesting one, I lived in the USA for nearly 6 years first on a
working visa then as a permanent resident with a green card. I had no right
to vote even for the local selectmen, therefore I had no representation,
didn't stop both the state and federal governments from taxing me though.
 
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I'd love to see an American history book. They must get
these ideas from somewhere.


The Scandinavian nations in general seem to hold the US
in rather low esteem.

It is known as "Ankle Biting".

There are often comparisons in the
Swedish press of American and Scandinavian educational
systems, social policies, salary levels, political
structure, etc etc.

More ankle biting.

Most of the smarter, more industrious Scandinavians emigrated to the US
decades ago. Who cares what those laggards that are left behind think?
Ah that great american combination of arrogance and ignorance.
 
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What is now known as The United States Of America

Raped ? In what way ?

"no taxation without representation".

That is an interesting one, I lived in the USA for nearly 6 years first on
a
working visa then as a permanent resident with a green card. I had no
right
to vote even for the local selectmen, therefore I had no representation,
didn't stop both the state and federal governments from taxing me though.

True, but a substatially different situation.

Frankly, all that info was readily available before you came to the US. By
remaining in the US you agree to obey US laws. That is a contact on your
part.

The colonists on the other hand made no such contract.

As far as paying taxes, you were recieving services, if nothing else roads
to drive on.
I wouldn't have any interest in giving even permanent residents the right
to vote. Shit, at least you CAN own property her. Many countries I have been
I can't even own proerty there.

Really, if I were agitating for change here, it would be breaking up the
media monopolies. The media has enough power to make or break laws and
politicians. That scares me more than anything.
 
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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in
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What is now known as The United States Of America

Raped ? In what way ?

"no taxation without representation".

That is an interesting one, I lived in the USA for nearly 6 years first
on
a
working visa then as a permanent resident with a green card. I had no
right
to vote even for the local selectmen, therefore I had no representation,
didn't stop both the state and federal governments from taxing me though.

True, but a substatially different situation.

Frankly, all that info was readily available before you came to the US. By
remaining in the US you agree to obey US laws. That is a contact on your
part.
I am not disputing that, it is the hypocracy of the situation that I am
pointing out. I would point, out by the way, I wasn't an H1B hopeful trying
to find a better life in the US, I was asked by my employer to move there as
they couldn't find enough skilled workers to do the job in the US.

The colonists on the other hand made no such contract.
AFAIK, they were British citizens at the time, therefore subject to British
taxes.

As far as paying taxes, you were recieving services, if nothing else roads
to drive on.
I wouldn't have any interest in giving even permanent residents the right
to vote. Shit, at least you CAN own property her. Many countries I have
been
I can't even own proerty there.
A permanent resident in Australia, even Americans, have far more rights than
a green card holder in the US. They can own property, vote, and don't lose
their residiency if they leave for more than 6 months. You don't even have
to be born here to become Prime Minister.

I have to go to the US again in October, not something that I look forward
to, waiting probably 45 minutes in line to be faced with the most
unfriendly, unhelpful immigration officials that I have ever had the
misfortune to encounter (and that includes having visited such places as
communist China in the old days) being fingerprinted and photographed for
the umpteenth time. The US is the only country that I have visited that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure what
they are scared of.
 
keithr wrote:
I have to go to the US again in October, not something that I look forward
to, waiting probably 45 minutes in line to be faced with the most
unfriendly, unhelpful immigration officials that I have ever had the
misfortune to encounter (and that includes having visited such places as
communist China in the old days) being fingerprinted and photographed for
the umpteenth time. The US is the only country that I have visited that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure what
they are scared of.

The wait wouldn't be that long if they didn't keep finding enough
illegal crap, to justify their operating budget. Also, if you don't
like the way we do things, you are free to stay home.

America! Love it, or stay home.


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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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keithr wrote:

I have to go to the US again in October, not something that I look
forward
to, waiting probably 45 minutes in line to be faced with the most
unfriendly, unhelpful immigration officials that I have ever had the
misfortune to encounter (and that includes having visited such places as
communist China in the old days) being fingerprinted and photographed for
the umpteenth time. The US is the only country that I have visited that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure what
they are scared of.


The wait wouldn't be that long if they didn't keep finding enough
illegal crap, to justify their operating budget.
Immigration officials don't find illegal crap, that is customs and they, by
comparison, are quite easy to get along with.

Also, if you don't like the way we do things, you are free to stay home.
Actually, I am not, I don't go there for pleasure, I go there to work

America! Love it, or stay home.
America! Put up with it, you don't have a choice
 
"liquidator" <mikeh@mad.scientist.com> wrote in message
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"-=Spudley=-" <-=Spudley=-@work.com> wrote in message
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Will you please try to keep up.


First, top posting is bad form.

Second, the comment was attributed to Peter in the reply.

Frankly you need to keep up.

Peter was challenging the reply attributing the comment to him when he
didn't say it.

Look at the post Peter replied to. Although you don't seem to know enough
about usenet to figure it out.
I dunno about keeping up, It might be an idea to keep on subject, but
it's a sure sign your loosing when you change the subject.
As for the British Rajah, and what they did or didn't do. Who really cares,
it just happens to have happened years ago, when none of you lot where
there to correct all there mistakes. but you lot push on, with your
Commonwealth dreams, of the "Sun never sets on the Empire"

Is it any wonder people like Phillie, survive, prosper, and continue to
insult people, When the main aggressor, righter of wrong's, goes of on a
tangent about nothing in particular, Why don't we discuses the black Pommy
problem, and Harold Wilson's part in the plot. Or his Mac and pipe.
Frankly, when it comes down to it, collectively, you lot couldn't make a
bed, or lie straight on it. For that matter.


bassett
 
"> There are two kinds of people on this earth:
Those who divide the people on this earth into two groups, and those who
don't.
 
keithr wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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keithr wrote:

I have to go to the US again in October, not something that I look
forward
to, waiting probably 45 minutes in line to be faced with the most
unfriendly, unhelpful immigration officials that I have ever had the
misfortune to encounter (and that includes having visited such places as
communist China in the old days) being fingerprinted and photographed for
the umpteenth time. The US is the only country that I have visited that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure what
they are scared of.


The wait wouldn't be that long if they didn't keep finding enough
illegal crap, to justify their operating budget.

Immigration officials don't find illegal crap, that is customs and they, by
comparison, are quite easy to get along with.

How do you propose to get into the US without using both?


Also, if you don't like the way we do things, you are free to stay home.

Actually, I am not, I don't go there for pleasure, I go there to work

that's no excuse. if you don't like it, you can find a different
job.


America! Love it, or stay home.

America! Put up with it, you don't have a choice

Sure I do. That's why I stay at home. I've already met enough
ignorant foreign tourists to last me several lifetimes. The bad to good
ratio has been about 20 to 1.


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<keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message 48accf3f@dnews.tpgi.com.au
The US is the only country that I have visited that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure what
they are scared of.
PEOPLE LIKE YOU!


http://robertmorein.blogspot.com/


"I don't really have a replacement career, it's a very gnawing thing."

Robert Morein
Dresher, PA
(310) 237-6511
(215) 646-4894
 
keithr wrote:

I have to go to the US again in October, not something that I look forward
to, waiting probably 45 minutes in line to be faced with the most
unfriendly, unhelpful immigration officials that I have ever had the
misfortune to encounter (and that includes having visited such places as
communist China in the old days) being fingerprinted and photographed for
the umpteenth time. The US is the only country that I have visited that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure what
they are scared of.
Their own shadows. My ex-boss and still a friend got held up for an hour or so
on entry to the USA simply for being born Pakistani one assumes. This is a man
who travels regularly so much that he has the really big passport with lots of
extra pages and visas for many, many countries.

Graham
 
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

keithr wrote:

I have to go to the US again in October, not something that I look forward
to, waiting probably 45 minutes in line to be faced with the most
unfriendly, unhelpful immigration officials that I have ever had the
misfortune to encounter (and that includes having visited such places as
communist China in the old days) being fingerprinted and photographed for
the umpteenth time. The US is the only country that I have visited that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure what
they are scared of.

The wait wouldn't be that long if they didn't keep finding enough
illegal crap, to justify their operating budget. Also, if you don't
like the way we do things, you are free to stay home.

America! Love it, or stay home.
I think increasingly people will stay home. I'll bet Florida's economy would
have been crippled had it not been for the falling dollar.

Graham
 
bassett wrote:

"liquidator" wrote
"-=Spudley=-" <-=Spudley=-@work.com> wrote

Will you please try to keep up.

First, top posting is bad form.

Second, the comment was attributed to Peter in the reply.

Frankly you need to keep up.

Peter was challenging the reply attributing the comment to him when he
didn't say it.

Look at the post Peter replied to. Although you don't seem to know enough
about usenet to figure it out.

I dunno about keeping up, It might be an idea to keep on subject, but
it's a sure sign your loosing when you change the subject.
As for the British Rajah, and what they did or didn't do. Who really cares,
it just happens to have happened years ago, when none of you lot where
there to correct all there mistakes. but you lot push on, with your
Commonwealth dreams, of the "Sun never sets on the Empire"
At its peak I believe there were 30,000 British soldiers in India at a time
when the population was 10,000 times as many. I can't see how the 'jackboot'
idea holds water.


Is it any wonder people like Phillie, survive, prosper, and continue to
insult people, When the main aggressor, righter of wrong's, goes of on a
tangent about nothing in particular, Why don't we discuses the black Pommy
problem, and Harold Wilson's part in the plot. Or his Mac and pipe.
Frankly, when it comes down to it, collectively, you lot couldn't make a
bed, or lie straight on it. For that matter.
What 'black Pommy problem' ?

Graham
 
Soundhaspriority wrote:

keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message 48accf3f@dnews.tpgi.com.au
The US is the only country that I have visited that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure what
they are scared of.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU!

http://robertmorein.blogspot.com/
It's the imposter not the real Bob. Ignore !

Graham
 
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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bassett wrote:

"liquidator" wrote
"-=Spudley=-" <-=Spudley=-@work.com> wrote

Will you please try to keep up.

First, top posting is bad form.

Second, the comment was attributed to Peter in the reply.

Frankly you need to keep up.

Peter was challenging the reply attributing the comment to him when he
didn't say it.

Look at the post Peter replied to. Although you don't seem to know
enough
about usenet to figure it out.

I dunno about keeping up, It might be an idea to keep on subject, but
it's a sure sign your loosing when you change the subject.
As for the British Rajah, and what they did or didn't do. Who really
cares,
it just happens to have happened years ago, when none of you lot where
there to correct all there mistakes. but you lot push on, with your
Commonwealth dreams, of the "Sun never sets on the Empire"

At its peak I believe there were 30,000 British soldiers in India at a
time
when the population was 10,000 times as many. I can't see how the
'jackboot'
idea holds water.
I find it difficult to take seriously the content of a post from
anyone who refers to "the British Rajah" (sic) when referring
to the British Raj.

Iain
 
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Soundhaspriority wrote:

keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message 48accf3f@dnews.tpgi.com.au
The US is the only country that I have visited that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure
what
they are scared of.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU!

http://robertmorein.blogspot.com/

It's the imposter not the real Bob. Ignore !
Is there some way, other than the content of the post,
to tell them apart?

Iain
 
On 21/08/08 12:26, in article
Epbrk.53344$_03.52557@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi, "Iain Churches"
<IainNG@kolumbus.fi> wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Soundhaspriority wrote:

keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message 48accf3f@dnews.tpgi.com.au
The US is the only country that I have visited that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure
what
they are scared of.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU!

http://robertmorein.blogspot.com/

It's the imposter not the real Bob. Ignore !


Is there some way, other than the content of the post,
to tell them apart?
The headers.

"Path:
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!newspeer1.nac.net!border2.n
ntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.ia
d01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!post01.iad01!news.buzzardnews.com!not-fo
r-mail"

Tells us this was posted from buzzardnews.com.

The real one uses giganews.com:

"Path:
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!Xl.tags.giganews
..com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.gigane
ws.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail"


--
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"Joe Kotroczo" <kotroczo@mac.com> wrote in message
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On 21/08/08 12:26, in article
Epbrk.53344$_03.52557@reader1.news.saunalahti.fi, "Iain Churches"
IainNG@kolumbus.fi> wrote:



"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:48AD3C89.4270FBAD@hotmail.com...


Soundhaspriority wrote:

keithr@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message 48accf3f@dnews.tpgi.com.au
The US is the only country that I have visited that
finds it necessary to arm their immigration officials, I am not sure
what
they are scared of.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU!

http://robertmorein.blogspot.com/

It's the imposter not the real Bob. Ignore !


Is there some way, other than the content of the post,
to tell them apart?

The headers.

"Path:
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!newspeer.monmouth.com!newspeer1.nac.net!border2.n
ntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.ia
d01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!post01.iad01!news.buzzardnews.com!not-fo
r-mail"

Tells us this was posted from buzzardnews.com.

The real one uses giganews.com:

"Path:
uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!Xl.tags.giganews
.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.gigane
ws.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail"

Hi Joe.
Where do I find these headers in Outlook Express?

Iain
 

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