OT: Why is Germany so (apparently) stupid to give up nuclear

[Martin Brown]

On 01/10/2019 03:00, krw@notreal.com wrote:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:52:03 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2019-09-30, krw@notreal.com <krw@notreal.com> wrote:

Hot water is SOFTER than cold water. Period. I never said it
matched softened water, which you'll undoubtedly barf off about next.

Wow, AlwaysWrong. Hot water has less calcium carbonate (with a few
other carbonates) in it than cold water?

no, it has much less calcium bicarbonate, calcium carbonate is
insoluble, both have essentially none of that.

When you heat the water,
where does the calcium go?

Mostly it sticks to the hot part of the boiler - the heating element, or
flame tube, whatever.

You're as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

You either live in an area of extremely soft water and/or you are even
more stupid and ignorant than AlwaysWrong. Popular name for it is
limescale and it plates out preferentially on the heating element.
Though every surface in contact with hard water ends up with some.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[John Doe]

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

Rick C wrote:

Whether HWOD is more efficient depends on other variables. For
example a friend bought a water heater with a heat pump. Yup.
So for every nickle you spend heating water with an HWOD system,
he is paying around a penny or two. He paid more for the system
but will save money in the long run.

If the system lasts long enough. There is a trend in everything
heat pump related that I see, from dehumidifiers (the worst), to
fridges and AC units. In the past they used to last 30 years.
Now you're lucky if you get half of that. With dehumdifiers, they
frequently last just a few years.

Controlling humidity, not just temperature, is great. I started doing
that maybe 10 years ago. Also use a filter fan (or whatever you want to
call it).

 

John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in
news:qmvcl0$ftg$2@dont-email.me:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

Rick C wrote:

Whether HWOD is more efficient depends on other variables. For
example a friend bought a water heater with a heat pump. Yup.
So for every nickle you spend heating water with an HWOD system,
he is paying around a penny or two. He paid more for the system
but will save money in the long run.

If the system lasts long enough. There is a trend in everything
heat pump related that I see, from dehumidifiers (the worst), to
fridges and AC units. In the past they used to last 30 years.
Now you're lucky if you get half of that. With dehumdifiers,
they frequently last just a few years.

Controlling humidity, not just temperature, is great. I started
doing that maybe 10 years ago. Also use a filter fan (or whatever
you want to call it).

You dew make a good point.

It will be lost on the know-it-all though.

 

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 08:58:27 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 01/10/2019 03:00, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:52:03 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2019-09-30, krw@notreal.com <krw@notreal.com> wrote:

Hot water is SOFTER than cold water. Period. I never said it
matched softened water, which you'll undoubtedly barf off about next.

Wow, AlwaysWrong. Hot water has less calcium carbonate (with a few
other carbonates) in it than cold water?

no, it has much less calcium bicarbonate, calcium carbonate is
insoluble, both have essentially none of that.

When you heat the water,
where does the calcium go?

Mostly it sticks to the hot part of the boiler - the heating element, or
flame tube, whatever.

You're as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

You either live in an area of extremely soft water and/or you are even
more stupid and ignorant than AlwaysWrong. Popular name for it is
limescale and it plates out preferentially on the heating element.
Though every surface in contact with hard water ends up with some.

You must have completely plugged pipes after a week of use, if the
scale contributes significantly to the softness of the water. No, you
are as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

 

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 11:17:52 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<always.look@message.header> wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

Rick C wrote:

Whether HWOD is more efficient depends on other variables. For
example a friend bought a water heater with a heat pump. Yup.
So for every nickle you spend heating water with an HWOD system,
he is paying around a penny or two. He paid more for the system
but will save money in the long run.

If the system lasts long enough. There is a trend in everything
heat pump related that I see, from dehumidifiers (the worst), to
fridges and AC units. In the past they used to last 30 years.
Now you're lucky if you get half of that. With dehumdifiers, they
frequently last just a few years.

Controlling humidity, not just temperature, is great. I started doing
that maybe 10 years ago. Also use a filter fan (or whatever you want to
call it).

It's becoming more common for air conditioners to have humidity
control built in. Basically the thermostat/humistat turns down the
fan speed while keeping the compressor running full tilt. The coils
get colder, pulling more water out of the air.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 12:50:29 PM UTC+10, k...@notreal.com wrote:

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 08:58:27 +0100, Martin Brown
'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 01/10/2019 03:00, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:52:03 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2019-09-30, krw@notreal.com <krw@notreal.com> wrote:

Hot water is SOFTER than cold water. Period. I never said it
matched softened water, which you'll undoubtedly barf off about next.

Wow, AlwaysWrong. Hot water has less calcium carbonate (with a few
other carbonates) in it than cold water?

no, it has much less calcium bicarbonate, calcium carbonate is
insoluble, both have essentially none of that.

When you heat the water,
where does the calcium go?

Mostly it sticks to the hot part of the boiler - the heating element, or
flame tube, whatever.

You're as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

You either live in an area of extremely soft water and/or you are even
more stupid and ignorant than AlwaysWrong. Popular name for it is
limescale and it plates out preferentially on the heating element.
Though every surface in contact with hard water ends up with some.

You must have completely plugged pipes after a week of use, if the
scale contributes significantly to the softness of the water.

Water hardness reflects the mineral content - more calcium and more magnesium in solution reflects harder water.

Water is "soft" if it doesn't contain much in the way of dissolved minerals, so krw is expressing himself bizarrely, or - more likely - doesn't understand what's going on.

Even hard water doesn't contain much in the way of dissolved minerals, so lime scale builds up over years - even water saturated with these minerals couldn't block up a pipe in week.

> No, you are as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

That's always krw's conclusion, particularly when he's wrong (which isn't a concept he can get what's left of his brain around).

He's spectacularly wrong here, but he's never going to realise it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:74a9f7d5-d3b8-40cd-8600-9b88a9e75d92@googlegroups.com:

On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 12:50:29 PM UTC+10,
k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 08:58:27 +0100, Martin Brown
'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 01/10/2019 03:00, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:52:03 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2019-09-30, krw@notreal.com <krw@notreal.com> wrote:

Hot water is SOFTER than cold water. Period. I never
said it
matched softened water, which you'll undoubtedly barf off
about next.

Wow, AlwaysWrong. Hot water has less calcium carbonate
(with a few other carbonates) in it than cold water?

no, it has much less calcium bicarbonate, calcium carbonate
is insoluble, both have essentially none of that.

When you heat the water,
where does the calcium go?

Mostly it sticks to the hot part of the boiler - the heating
element, or flame tube, whatever.

You're as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

You either live in an area of extremely soft water and/or you
are even more stupid and ignorant than AlwaysWrong. Popular name
for it is limescale and it plates out preferentially on the
heating element. Though every surface in contact with hard water
ends up with some.

You must have completely plugged pipes after a week of use, if
the scale contributes significantly to the softness of the water.

Water hardness reflects the mineral content - more calcium and
more magnesium in solution reflects harder water.

Water is "soft" if it doesn't contain much in the way of dissolved
minerals, so krw is expressing himself bizarrely, or - more likely
- doesn't understand what's going on.

Despite information being plastered all over the web, he is hard
set wrong in this case and hard wired stupid whenever faced with
finding himself in err. It likely cost him a job or two... or
should have, but assholes like him sleeze through the cracks usually.

Even hard water doesn't contain much in the way of dissolved
minerals, so lime scale builds up over years - even water
saturated with these minerals couldn't block up a pipe in week.

Amazing what that little bit of change does when the work of
loosening contaminants is the task.

Cold water, filthy hands.

Hot water, clean hands. Just ask any surgeon.

The softer, lower surface tension hot water is able to get under
attached debris and loosen it.

That and nice open pores makes for a good cleaning session (real
men), not just a cursory pass under the faucet (most men). A good
anti-microbial soap is not all that is required.

No, you are as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

That's always krw's conclusion, particularly when he's wrong
(which isn't a concept he can get what's left of his brain
around).

He's spectacularly wrong here, but he's never going to realise it.

If only that were true. First part is correct, but the second
would mean that big chest gripper got him. If only.

 

[Martin Brown]

On 02/10/2019 07:59, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 12:50:29 PM UTC+10, k...@notreal.com
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 08:58:27 +0100, Martin Brown
'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 01/10/2019 03:00, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:52:03 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2019-09-30, krw@notreal.com <krw@notreal.com> wrote:

Hot water is SOFTER than cold water. Period. I never
said it matched softened water, which you'll undoubtedly
barf off about next.

Wow, AlwaysWrong. Hot water has less calcium carbonate
(with a few other carbonates) in it than cold water?

no, it has much less calcium bicarbonate, calcium carbonate
is insoluble, both have essentially none of that.

When you heat the water, where does the calcium go?

Mostly it sticks to the hot part of the boiler - the heating
element, or flame tube, whatever.

You're as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

You either live in an area of extremely soft water and/or you are
even more stupid and ignorant than AlwaysWrong. Popular name for
it is limescale and it plates out preferentially on the heating
element. Though every surface in contact with hard water ends up
with some.

You must have completely plugged pipes after a week of use, if the
scale contributes significantly to the softness of the water.

Not at all. Supply pipes furring up internally does protect against the
risk of the old lead pipe toxicity though it takes a century or more to
block one even in the hardest water regions of limestone borehole waters
which are essentially completely saturated with calcium bicarbonate.

Water hardness reflects the mineral content - more calcium and more
magnesium in solution reflects harder water.

Water is "soft" if it doesn't contain much in the way of dissolved
minerals, so krw is expressing himself bizarrely, or - more likely -
doesn't understand what's going on.

Utterly clueless by the sound of it.

The key to why the calcium and to a lesser extent magnesium plate out as
carbonate is that the bicarbonate ion is unstable in hot water and the
corresponding carbonates are very much less soluble.

Even hard water doesn't contain much in the way of dissolved
minerals, so lime scale builds up over years - even water saturated
with these minerals couldn't block up a pipe in week.

It can wreck a kettle element in a year if you don't do routine scale
removal maintenance in parts of the UK like Derbyshire where the
groundwater is sufficiently saturated to support petrifying wells.

https://www.wondersofthepeak.org.uk/facts/matlock-bath-petrifying-well/

My nearest petrifying well is Mother Shipton's Cave and Petrifying Well
which claims to be England's oldest tourist attraction

https://www.mothershipton.co.uk/the-park/

Both of these are spas where people go to drink the "healthy" waters.

London water is also pretty hard but also rather unpleasant.

No, you are as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

That's always krw's conclusion, particularly when he's wrong (which
isn't a concept he can get what's left of his brain around).

He's spectacularly wrong here, but he's never going to realise it.

He seems unable to learn anything new.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 12:29:07 PM UTC+10, k...@notreal.com wrote:

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 10:08:09 +0100, Martin Brown
'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 02/10/2019 07:59, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 12:50:29 PM UTC+10, k...@notreal.com
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 08:58:27 +0100, Martin Brown
'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 01/10/2019 03:00, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:52:03 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2019-09-30, krw@notreal.com <krw@notreal.com> wrote:

Hot water is SOFTER than cold water. Period. I never
said it matched softened water, which you'll undoubtedly
barf off about next.

Wow, AlwaysWrong. Hot water has less calcium carbonate
(with a few other carbonates) in it than cold water?

no, it has much less calcium bicarbonate, calcium carbonate
is insoluble, both have essentially none of that.

When you heat the water, where does the calcium go?

Mostly it sticks to the hot part of the boiler - the heating
element, or flame tube, whatever.

You're as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

You either live in an area of extremely soft water and/or you are
even more stupid and ignorant than AlwaysWrong. Popular name for
it is limescale and it plates out preferentially on the heating
element. Though every surface in contact with hard water ends up
with some.

You must have completely plugged pipes after a week of use, if the
scale contributes significantly to the softness of the water.

Not at all. Supply pipes furring up internally does protect against the
risk of the old lead pipe toxicity though it takes a century or more to
block one even in the hardest water regions of limestone borehole waters
which are essentially completely saturated with calcium bicarbonate.

You're too stupid to even read. Yep, we have another AlwaysWrong
here, folks.

Krw in full denial. If he had any sense he'd do some reading of his own, learn something, and apologise. It isn't going to happen.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 10:08:09 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 02/10/2019 07:59, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 12:50:29 PM UTC+10, k...@notreal.com
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 08:58:27 +0100, Martin Brown
'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 01/10/2019 03:00, krw@notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:52:03 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2019-09-30, krw@notreal.com <krw@notreal.com> wrote:

Hot water is SOFTER than cold water. Period. I never
said it matched softened water, which you'll undoubtedly
barf off about next.

Wow, AlwaysWrong. Hot water has less calcium carbonate
(with a few other carbonates) in it than cold water?

no, it has much less calcium bicarbonate, calcium carbonate
is insoluble, both have essentially none of that.

When you heat the water, where does the calcium go?

Mostly it sticks to the hot part of the boiler - the heating
element, or flame tube, whatever.

You're as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

You either live in an area of extremely soft water and/or you are
even more stupid and ignorant than AlwaysWrong. Popular name for
it is limescale and it plates out preferentially on the heating
element. Though every surface in contact with hard water ends up
with some.

You must have completely plugged pipes after a week of use, if the
scale contributes significantly to the softness of the water.

Not at all. Supply pipes furring up internally does protect against the
risk of the old lead pipe toxicity though it takes a century or more to
block one even in the hardest water regions of limestone borehole waters
which are essentially completely saturated with calcium bicarbonate.

You're too stupid to even read. Yep, we have another AlwaysWrong
here, folks.

 

krw@notreal.com wrote in news:q4napettij3k74pj134t5vgc01tfdf0j8k@
4ax.com:

You're too stupid to even read. Yep, we have another AlwaysWrong
here, folks.

One has to wonder just whom this krw utter retard thinks his folks
here are.

The stupid behavior of the idiot the retarded electoral college put
into our nation's highest office acts in a similar manner.

His El Retardo house of cards is currently crumbling, but we can
all bet that the dopes backing the childish putz will hold out even
longer.

Made a former Navy Seal almost cry in public as it (the truth of
it)struck him right upside da haed the other day. The former
serviceman realized right then and there that he backed the wrong
player. And no matter how much service he gave, it could still bite
him firmly in the ass.

So when will you ever admit error?

That's right... not in this thread on this topic, OR the error you
made backing a criminal level NYC landlord putz.

Anybody can get rich sucking out folks' wallets. And he couldn't
even spend it right. He is about the dumbest 'businessman' to have
ever taken an economics course in the history of the course
offerring. And the retarded fuck went on to lie and claim to have
finished at the top of that class... NOPE!

You ain't real bright, boy.

 

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 03:36:14 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

krw@notreal.com wrote in news:q4napettij3k74pj134t5vgc01tfdf0j8k@
4ax.com:

You're too stupid to even read. Yep, we have another AlwaysWrong
here, folks.


One has to wonder just whom this krw utter retard thinks his folks
here are.

No one has to wonder, AlwaysWrong. You prove me correct a hundred
times a day. ...and have for decades.

The stupid behavior of the idiot the retarded electoral college put
into our nation's highest office acts in a similar manner.

You really are an idiot. ...no news to anyone here.

His El Retardo house of cards is currently crumbling, but we can
all bet that the dopes backing the childish putz will hold out even
longer.

Always, always, AlwaysWrong.

Made a former Navy Seal almost cry in public as it (the truth of
it)struck him right upside da haed the other day. The former
serviceman realized right then and there that he backed the wrong
player. And no matter how much service he gave, it could still bite
him firmly in the ass.

You really are an idiot.

So when will you ever admit error?

I have no risk of that as long as I'm talking to you, AlwaysWrong.

That's right... not in this thread on this topic, OR the error you
made backing a criminal level NYC landlord putz.

Because *you* are always wrong, AlwaysWrong.

Anybody can get rich sucking out folks' wallets. And he couldn't
even spend it right. He is about the dumbest 'businessman' to have
ever taken an economics course in the history of the course
offerring. And the retarded fuck went on to lie and claim to have
finished at the top of that class... NOPE!

Always wrong.

You ain't real bright, boy.

Always.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:30:04 PM UTC+10, k...@notreal.com wrote:

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 03:36:14 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

krw@notreal.com wrote in news:q4napettij3k74pj134t5vgc01tfdf0j8k@
4ax.com:

You're too stupid to even read. Yep, we have another AlwaysWrong
here, folks.

One has to wonder just whom this krw utter retard thinks his folks
here are.

No one has to wonder, AlwaysWrong. You prove me correct a hundred
times a day. ...and have for decades.

Krw has a funny way of finding himself "proved correct".

He's presumably judge and jury, which rather devalues his opinion.

<snipped the rest of krw congratulating himself on being an infallible authority, which is one of his more prominent misapprehensions>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 11:36:20 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

krw@notreal.com wrote in news:q4napettij3k74pj134t5vgc01tfdf0j8k@
4ax.com:

You're too stupid to even read. Yep, we have another AlwaysWrong
here, folks.


One has to wonder just whom this krw utter retard thinks his folks
here are.

The stupid behavior of the idiot the retarded electoral college put
into our nation's highest office acts in a similar manner.

The electoral college has "put" every president into office since the
founding. The only issue is now that libs don't like Trump, they are
bitching about the EC.

His El Retardo house of cards is currently crumbling, but we can
all bet that the dopes backing the childish putz will hold out even
longer.

Made a former Navy Seal almost cry in public as it (the truth of
it)struck him right upside da haed the other day. The former
serviceman realized right then and there that he backed the wrong
player. And no matter how much service he gave, it could still bite
him firmly in the ass.

So when will you ever admit error?

amazing how you can turn a thread about nuclear power and hot water into
politics.

That's right... not in this thread on this topic, OR the error you
made backing a criminal level NYC landlord putz.

Anybody can get rich sucking out folks' wallets.

Why don't you do it then? Go into business with your great battery
bank for restroom idea. Spending lots of money for a battery bank
and associated BS to take advantage of lower night rates for electric.
Instead of just installing solar, which could cover the energy usage
of the restroom period.

 

[John Doe]

Regular Australian troll...

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On Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 12:01:01 PM UTC+10, k... notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:52:03 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
jasen xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2019-09-30, krw notreal.com <krw notreal.com> wrote:

Hot water is SOFTER than cold water. Period. I never said it
matched softened water, which you'll undoubtedly barf off about next.

Wow, AlwaysWrong. Hot water has less calcium carbonate (with a few
other carbonates) in it than cold water?

no, it has much less calcium bicarbonate, calcium carbonate is
insoluble, both have essentially none of that.

When you heat the water,
where does the calcium go?

Mostly it sticks to the hot part of the boiler - the heating element, or
flame tube, whatever.

You're as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

Krw demonstrates that he is not only dumber than DLUNU, but also totally incapable of recognising that he has screwed up. Not exactly surprising, but he rarely quite so obviously wrong, and quite so obviously blind to it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Doe]

Regular Australian troll...

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On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 12:50:29 PM UTC+10, k... notreal.com wrote:
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 08:58:27 +0100, Martin Brown
'''newspam''' nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 01/10/2019 03:00, krw notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:52:03 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
jasen xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2019-09-30, krw notreal.com <krw notreal.com> wrote:

Hot water is SOFTER than cold water. Period. I never said it
matched softened water, which you'll undoubtedly barf off about next.

Wow, AlwaysWrong. Hot water has less calcium carbonate (with a few
other carbonates) in it than cold water?

no, it has much less calcium bicarbonate, calcium carbonate is
insoluble, both have essentially none of that.

When you heat the water,
where does the calcium go?

Mostly it sticks to the hot part of the boiler - the heating element, or
flame tube, whatever.

You're as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

You either live in an area of extremely soft water and/or you are even
more stupid and ignorant than AlwaysWrong. Popular name for it is
limescale and it plates out preferentially on the heating element.
Though every surface in contact with hard water ends up with some.

You must have completely plugged pipes after a week of use, if the
scale contributes significantly to the softness of the water.

Water hardness reflects the mineral content - more calcium and more magnesium in solution reflects harder water.

Water is "soft" if it doesn't contain much in the way of dissolved minerals, so krw is expressing himself bizarrely, or - more likely - doesn't understand what's going on.

Even hard water doesn't contain much in the way of dissolved minerals, so lime scale builds up over years - even water saturated with these minerals couldn't block up a pipe in week.

No, you are as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

That's always krw's conclusion, particularly when he's wrong (which isn't a concept he can get what's left of his brain around).

He's spectacularly wrong here, but he's never going to realise it.

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On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 12:29:07 PM UTC+10, k... notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 10:08:09 +0100, Martin Brown
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On 02/10/2019 07:59, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 12:50:29 PM UTC+10, k... notreal.com
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Oct 2019 08:58:27 +0100, Martin Brown
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On 01/10/2019 03:00, krw notreal.com wrote:
On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:52:03 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
jasen xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2019-09-30, krw notreal.com <krw notreal.com> wrote:

Hot water is SOFTER than cold water. Period. I never
said it matched softened water, which you'll undoubtedly
barf off about next.

Wow, AlwaysWrong. Hot water has less calcium carbonate
(with a few other carbonates) in it than cold water?

no, it has much less calcium bicarbonate, calcium carbonate
is insoluble, both have essentially none of that.

When you heat the water, where does the calcium go?

Mostly it sticks to the hot part of the boiler - the heating
element, or flame tube, whatever.

You're as dumb as AlwaysWrong.

You either live in an area of extremely soft water and/or you are
even more stupid and ignorant than AlwaysWrong. Popular name for
it is limescale and it plates out preferentially on the heating
element. Though every surface in contact with hard water ends up
with some.

You must have completely plugged pipes after a week of use, if the
scale contributes significantly to the softness of the water.

Not at all. Supply pipes furring up internally does protect against the
risk of the old lead pipe toxicity though it takes a century or more to
block one even in the hardest water regions of limestone borehole waters
which are essentially completely saturated with calcium bicarbonate.

You're too stupid to even read. Yep, we have another AlwaysWrong
here, folks.

Krw in full denial. If he had any sense he'd do some reading of his own, learn something, and apologise. It isn't going to happen.

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On Friday, October 4, 2019 at 12:30:04 PM UTC+10, k... notreal.com wrote:
On Thu, 3 Oct 2019 03:36:14 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno decadence.org wrote:

krw notreal.com wrote in news:q4napettij3k74pj134t5vgc01tfdf0j8k
4ax.com:

You're too stupid to even read. Yep, we have another AlwaysWrong
here, folks.

One has to wonder just whom this krw utter retard thinks his folks
here are.

No one has to wonder, AlwaysWrong. You prove me correct a hundred
times a day. ...and have for decades.

Krw has a funny way of finding himself "proved correct".

He's presumably judge and jury, which rather devalues his opinion.

snipped the rest of krw congratulating himself on being an infallible authority, which is one of his more prominent misapprehensions

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Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
krw@notreal.com wrote:

You're too stupid to even read. Yep, we have another
AlwaysWrong here, folks.

The stupid behavior of the idiot the retarded electoral college
put into our nation's highest office acts in a similar manner.

The electoral college has "put" every president into office since
the founding. The only issue is now that libs don't like Trump,
they are bitching about the EC.

They are so much smarter than Trump supporters, but they still haven't
figured out how Hillary lost.

So when will you ever admit error?

amazing how you can turn a thread about nuclear power and hot
water into politics.

It's called "Trump Derangement Syndrome".

The counterintelligence investigation against a newly ELECTED president
was an attempted coup. The fact Washington DC and area cities are 90%
Democrat is not a coincidence. Trump isn't the end of it.

 

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On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 10:52:37 AM UTC+10, k... notreal.com wrote:
On Sun, 29 Sep 2019 22:28:36 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4 optonline.net> wrote in news:fdb5eb34-ad99-4988-
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ROFL I see, so now hot water = soft water. That's a new one for
the
books.

Ask a woman old enough to know about the bad old days of doing
laundry in the bright color days of the sixties and seventies.

Not new. Been known by man for likely hundreds if not thousands of
years. I guess that leaves you out.

Hot water is SOFTER than cold water. Period. I never said it
matched softened water, which you'll undoubtedly barf off about next.

Wow, AlwaysWrong. Hot water has less calcium carbonate (with a few
other carbonates) in it than cold water? When you heat the water,
where does the calcium go?

It precipitates out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_carbonate

"Calcium carbonate is unusual in that its solubility increases with decreasing temperature.".

Sorry, punk, but you got it wrong... again.

Sorry, AlwaysWrong. *YOU* are wrong. Always.

Not this time. Why do you think that hot water tanks "scale up", as in get coated with lime scale?

SoftER water has lower surface tension and is how cleaning works,
you fucking retard. HOT water is softER than cold water is.

Too bad your savantwannabebutgotretardinstead brain cannot handle
historical and physical fact.

Always wrong, AlwaysWrong.

Krw puts in his bid for the title. He is not always wrong, but then again neither is DLUNU, and DLUNU has the advantage that he can learn, which is a skill that krw has yet to demonstrate here.

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