OT: What's this type of bracket called?

[Rheilly Phoull]

On 15/10/2019 4:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 14/10/2019 1:31 pm, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 13/10/2019 10:23 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4b15o0hgno2ldu/bracket.jpg?dl=0

The perspective is a bit off - the angles at the end are about 45
degrees.

I made this one myself out of aluminium tubing, but I've already had
one crack and break at the bend.

So I'm trying to buy a steel one, but I can't even figure out what to
search for.

Sylvia.


Jeez!! I've never seen such a fuss about a simple bracket.
How hard could it be ??

How hard could it be to do what?

Sylvia.

I just can't understand why you just don't grab some bar or pipe and do
it. All this stuff about annealing etc. makes it into a scientific
endeavor. Do you have any experience drilling holes or putting a bit of
bar in a vice and bending it ?

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 16/10/2019 7:58 pm, Rheilly Phoull wrote:

On 15/10/2019 4:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 14/10/2019 1:31 pm, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 13/10/2019 10:23 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4b15o0hgno2ldu/bracket.jpg?dl=0

The perspective is a bit off - the angles at the end are about 45
degrees.

I made this one myself out of aluminium tubing, but I've already had
one crack and break at the bend.

So I'm trying to buy a steel one, but I can't even figure out what
to search for.

Sylvia.


Jeez!! I've never seen such a fuss about a simple bracket.
How hard could it be ??

How hard could it be to do what?

Sylvia.

I just can't understand why you just don't grab some bar or pipe and do
it. All this stuff about annealing etc. makes it into a scientific
endeavor. Do you have any experience drilling holes or putting a bit of
bar in a vice and bending it ?

I asked what it was called. Who are you to judge whether I should use a
different approach?

Sylvia.

 

[Xeno]

On 16/10/19 8:52 pm, Noddy wrote:

On 16/10/2019 8:22 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

Jeez!! I've never seen such a fuss about a simple bracket.
How hard could it be ??

How hard could it be to do what?

Sylvia.

I just can't understand why you just don't grab some bar or pipe and
do it. All this stuff about annealing etc. makes it into a scientific
endeavor. Do you have any experience drilling holes or putting a bit
of bar in a vice and bending it ?


I asked what it was called. Who are you to judge whether I should use
a different approach?

I don't think he/she/it/they were judging. They were just wondering why
you don't just go out and buy some steel tube or bar and make a
replacement instead of turning it into a 9 part mini series.

As you love to do....

Feel free to *drop out of the topic* at any time Noddy. After all, it's
not like you have any *trade experience* at metallurgy.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

 

[Xeno]

On 16/10/19 8:50 pm, Noddy wrote:

On 16/10/2019 6:16 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 16/10/2019 5:28 pm, Xeno wrote:

Ah, the drive-bys aren't a problem. It's the *resident snipers* you
need to watch - like Noddy and Co. They tell you that they've
killfiled you but read everything you post and then snipe from behind
their *killfails*.


Nah, the residents - you know who they are, they're easy to keep an
eye on.

You're an intelligent woman Sylvia. Or so some people claim. Do you find
it odd that people like "Xeno" can't be involved in any conversation
unless he can talk about me?

Just curious

Just curious Noddy! Why don't you front up with the *proof* you claim to
have of your 2 decade long *boasts* in aus.cars. Rather than hanging
shit on people all the time, why don't you just *ignore* topics and
conversations that don't interest you or, more to the point, are beyond
your ken? You can't keep putting into your killfile all the people who
are asking you awkward questions. You will need to answer them sooner or
later - or they may be answered in your stead. You see, some of your
claims are without substance as verified by VetAssess and, through
archival records, absolute definitive proof can be obtained.

It's just a matter of time.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

 

[Noddy]

On 16/10/2019 8:22 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

Jeez!! I've never seen such a fuss about a simple bracket.
How hard could it be ??

How hard could it be to do what?

Sylvia.

I just can't understand why you just don't grab some bar or pipe and
do it. All this stuff about annealing etc. makes it into a scientific
endeavor. Do you have any experience drilling holes or putting a bit
of bar in a vice and bending it ?


I asked what it was called. Who are you to judge whether I should use a
different approach?

I don't think he/she/it/they were judging. They were just wondering why
you don't just go out and buy some steel tube or bar and make a
replacement instead of turning it into a 9 part mini series.

As you love to do....


--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

 

[Noddy]

On 16/10/2019 6:16 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 16/10/2019 5:28 pm, Xeno wrote:

Ah, the drive-bys aren't a problem. It's the *resident snipers* you
need to watch - like Noddy and Co. They tell you that they've
killfiled you but read everything you post and then snipe from behind
their *killfails*.


Nah, the residents - you know who they are, they're easy to keep an eye on.

You're an intelligent woman Sylvia. Or so some people claim. Do you find
it odd that people like "Xeno" can't be involved in any conversation
unless he can talk about me?

Just curious


--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

 

[Xeno]

On 16/10/19 7:58 pm, Rheilly Phoull wrote:

On 15/10/2019 4:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 14/10/2019 1:31 pm, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 13/10/2019 10:23 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4b15o0hgno2ldu/bracket.jpg?dl=0

The perspective is a bit off - the angles at the end are about 45
degrees.

I made this one myself out of aluminium tubing, but I've already had
one crack and break at the bend.

So I'm trying to buy a steel one, but I can't even figure out what
to search for.

Sylvia.


Jeez!! I've never seen such a fuss about a simple bracket.
How hard could it be ??

How hard could it be to do what?

Sylvia.

I just can't understand why you just don't grab some bar or pipe and do
it. All this stuff about annealing etc. makes it into a scientific
endeavor. Do you have any experience drilling holes or putting a bit of
bar in a vice and bending it ?

Annealing is hardly a scientific process. It's a process that is used
for the treatment of metals and alloys to return them to a position of
optimum ductility. Cold working of metals results in work hardening
which could lead to cracking and annealing reverses that process. In the
case of the alloy tubing in question, the annealing process is carried
out *prior* to bending as well as after. The process prior removes the
work hardening of manufacture allowing easier bending and the process
after returns the pipe to the most ductile state after bending so that
it won't crack in service.

In my time in my trade I have performed annealing, quenching, tempering
& carburising along with many and varied welding processes. These are
simply *trade skills* that I learnt during my high school years and
during my apprenticeship. No rocket science involved or required.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

 

[Noddy]

On 16/10/2019 11:22 pm, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:qo6p61$ee6$1@dont-email.me:


Nah, the residents - you know who they are, they're easy to keep
an eye on.
You're an intelligent woman Sylvia. Or so some people claim. Do
you find it odd that people like "Xeno" can't be involved in any
conversation unless he can talk about me?

Just curious


You're just pissed because you got properly bracketed.

Fuck off imbecile. No one was asking for the opinion of a Trump Supporter.


--
--
--
Regards,
Noddy.

 

Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:qo6p61$ee6$1@dont-email.me:

On 16/10/2019 6:16 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 16/10/2019 5:28 pm, Xeno wrote:

Ah, the drive-bys aren't a problem. It's the *resident snipers*
you need to watch - like Noddy and Co. They tell you that
they've killfiled you but read everything you post and then
snipe from behind their *killfails*.


Nah, the residents - you know who they are, they're easy to keep
an eye on.

You're an intelligent woman Sylvia. Or so some people claim. Do
you find it odd that people like "Xeno" can't be involved in any
conversation unless he can talk about me?

Just curious

You're just pissed because you got properly bracketed.

Now you are just another interloper troll in yet another NG. How
quaint... not.

 

[Xeno]

On 16/10/19 11:56 pm, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:qo72mk$1o4$1@dont-email.me:

On 16/10/2019 11:22 pm, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:qo6p61$ee6$1@dont-email.me:


Nah, the residents - you know who they are, they're easy to
keep an eye on.
You're an intelligent woman Sylvia. Or so some people claim.
Do
you find it odd that people like "Xeno" can't be involved in any
conversation unless he can talk about me?

Just curious


You're just pissed because you got properly bracketed.

Fuck off imbecile. No one was asking for the opinion of a Trump
Supporter.



You are the imbecile.

You have invaded yet another netgroup, and are not civil.

He is uncivil, a liar, a bullshit artist, a faker, a sociopath (failed)
and an outright loon. Yes, you're on the right track with your
assessment of him.

You are so retarded that you cannot tell that I am adamantly
against Donald J. Trump, so you are obviously also illiterate.

Well, he did flunk/drop out of year nine in a tech school. Wasn't even
capable with his hands, much less his brain.

And you think me calling you a troll is an opinion.

Bwuahahahahahaha!

Concepts like that are definitely beyond Noddy's ken!

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

 

[Xeno]

On 16/10/19 11:33 pm, Noddy wrote:

On 16/10/2019 11:22 pm, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:qo6p61$ee6$1@dont-email.me:


Nah, the residents - you know who they are, they're easy to keep
an eye on.
You're an intelligent woman Sylvia. Or so some people claim. Do
you find it odd that people like "Xeno" can't be involved in any
conversation unless he can talk about me?

Just curious


   You're just pissed because you got properly bracketed.

Fuck off imbecile. No one was asking for the opinion of a Trump Supporter.


And Noddy reverts to type! How utterly unsurprising!

The odd thing is; you actually wonder why you become the topic of
conversations here.

The reality, you want *control* of conversations, and everything else,
here in aus.cars and it pisses you mightily when, instead of
controlling, you become the topic of conversations in aus.cars. It's why
you've become a *master of projection*, probably the only thing you have
ever mastered to any degree in your entire life of failure. All the rest
of the lies, bullshit and fakery you involve yourself in are nothing
more than your futile attempts to be relevant to the motor trade.

Now, about the proof of those long term claims to be qualified in 2
trades - ante up!



--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

 

Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:qo72mk$1o4$1@dont-email.me:

On 16/10/2019 11:22 pm, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:qo6p61$ee6$1@dont-email.me:


Nah, the residents - you know who they are, they're easy to
keep an eye on.
You're an intelligent woman Sylvia. Or so some people claim.
Do
you find it odd that people like "Xeno" can't be involved in any
conversation unless he can talk about me?

Just curious


You're just pissed because you got properly bracketed.

Fuck off imbecile. No one was asking for the opinion of a Trump
Supporter.

You are the imbecile.

You have invaded yet another netgroup, and are not civil.

You are so retarded that you cannot tell that I am adamantly
against Donald J. Trump, so you are obviously also illiterate.

And you think me calling you a troll is an opinion.

Bwuahahahahahaha!

 

[Clocky]

On 16/10/2019 5:50 pm, Noddy wrote:

On 16/10/2019 6:16 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 16/10/2019 5:28 pm, Xeno wrote:

Ah, the drive-bys aren't a problem. It's the *resident snipers* you
need to watch - like Noddy and Co. They tell you that they've
killfiled you but read everything you post and then snipe from behind
their *killfails*.


Nah, the residents - you know who they are, they're easy to keep an
eye on.

You're an intelligent woman Sylvia. Or so some people claim. Do you find
it odd that people like "Xeno" can't be involved in any conversation
unless he can talk about me?

Just curious

So how many times have you mentioned Alvey in a post in the last few
months when you claim you can't see his posts ?

I'm sure Sylvia has worked you out as well, smart people do.


--

 

[Clocky]

On 16/10/2019 8:33 pm, Noddy wrote:

On 16/10/2019 11:22 pm, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:qo6p61$ee6$1@dont-email.me:


Nah, the residents - you know who they are, they're easy to keep
an eye on.
You're an intelligent woman Sylvia. Or so some people claim. Do
you find it odd that people like "Xeno" can't be involved in any
conversation unless he can talk about me?

Just curious


   You're just pissed because you got properly bracketed.

Fuck off imbecile. No one was asking for the opinion of a Trump Supporter.

How many times have do you have to be reminded that you that you don't
get to control in a public newsgroup?

How many times does it have to be pointed out to you that expressing a
dislike for for a team, party, or person you like does not mean someone
automatically supports an opposing one?

This basic, binary, non-critical thinking mindset of yours is really,
really stupid. No wonder then that you get "properly bracketed" by
everyone whenever and wherever you pop your toxic little head up.





--

 

[Noddy]

On 16/10/2019 11:56 pm, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:qo72mk$1o4$1@dont-email.me:

You're just pissed because you got properly bracketed.

Fuck off imbecile. No one was asking for the opinion of a Trump
Supporter.



You are the imbecile.

You have invaded yet another netgroup, and are not civil.

ROTFL

You're the same stupid cunt who gave me a mouthful the other day and
asked me to post my address so you could come over and give me a tune
up, right?

Fucking retard


--
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--
Regards,
Noddy.

 

[Clocky]

On 17/10/2019 5:12 am, Noddy wrote:

On 16/10/2019 11:56 pm, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:qo72mk$1o4$1@dont-email.me:

    You're just pissed because you got properly bracketed.

Fuck off imbecile. No one was asking for the opinion of a Trump
Supporter.



   You are the imbecile.

   You have invaded yet another netgroup, and are not civil.

ROTFL

You're the same stupid cunt who gave me a mouthful the other day and
asked me to post my address so you could come over and give me a tune
up, right?

Fucking retard

You're so, so stupid.
You'll never get why that's so obvious to everyone else , which is what
makes it all the more funnier

--

 

[Xeno]

On 17/10/19 8:42 am, Clocky wrote:

On 17/10/2019 5:12 am, Noddy wrote:
On 16/10/2019 11:56 pm, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:qo72mk$1o4$1@dont-email.me:

    You're just pissed because you got properly bracketed.

Fuck off imbecile. No one was asking for the opinion of a Trump
Supporter.



   You are the imbecile.

   You have invaded yet another netgroup, and are not civil.

ROTFL

You're the same stupid cunt who gave me a mouthful the other day and
asked me to post my address so you could come over and give me a tune
up, right?

Fucking retard



You're so, so stupid.
You'll never get why that's so obvious to everyone else , which is what
makes it all the more funnier

I'm still waiting for him to *go out with a bang*! All we're seeing is
his whimpering. Whichever way he goes out, discussions will be much more
civil here.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

 

[Rheilly Phoull]

On 16/10/2019 6:57 pm, Xeno wrote:

On 16/10/19 7:58 pm, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 15/10/2019 4:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 14/10/2019 1:31 pm, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 13/10/2019 10:23 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4b15o0hgno2ldu/bracket.jpg?dl=0

The perspective is a bit off - the angles at the end are about 45
degrees.

I made this one myself out of aluminium tubing, but I've already
had one crack and break at the bend.

So I'm trying to buy a steel one, but I can't even figure out what
to search for.

Sylvia.


Jeez!! I've never seen such a fuss about a simple bracket.
How hard could it be ??

How hard could it be to do what?

Sylvia.

I just can't understand why you just don't grab some bar or pipe and
do it. All this stuff about annealing etc. makes it into a scientific
endeavor. Do you have any experience drilling holes or putting a bit
of bar in a vice and bending it ?

Annealing is hardly a scientific process. It's a process that is used
for the treatment of metals and alloys to return them to a position of
optimum ductility. Cold working of metals results in work hardening
which could lead to cracking and annealing reverses that process. In the
case of the alloy tubing in question, the annealing process is carried
out *prior* to bending as well as after. The process prior removes the
work hardening of manufacture allowing easier bending and the process
after returns the pipe to the most ductile state after bending so that
it won't crack in service.

In my time in my trade I have performed annealing, quenching, tempering
& carburising along with many and varied welding processes. These are
simply *trade skills* that I learnt during my high school years and
during my apprenticeship. No rocket science involved or required.

Well aren't you just the legend in your own mind. For a simple support
bracket bracket (I assume she isn't making a satellite or whatever) it
is hardly necessary to anneal or heat treat a bit of cold formed bar or
pipe to 45deg. Don't think you are the only tradie in the group either!

 

[Clocky]

On 17/10/2019 7:35 am, Xeno wrote:

Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote:
On 16/10/2019 6:57 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 16/10/19 7:58 pm, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 15/10/2019 4:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 14/10/2019 1:31 pm, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 13/10/2019 10:23 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4b15o0hgno2ldu/bracket.jpg?dl=0

The perspective is a bit off - the angles at the end are about 45
degrees.

I made this one myself out of aluminium tubing, but I've already
had one crack and break at the bend.

So I'm trying to buy a steel one, but I can't even figure out what
to search for.

Sylvia.


Jeez!! I've never seen such a fuss about a simple bracket.
How hard could it be ??

How hard could it be to do what?

Sylvia.

I just can't understand why you just don't grab some bar or pipe and
do it. All this stuff about annealing etc. makes it into a scientific
endeavor. Do you have any experience drilling holes or putting a bit
of bar in a vice and bending it ?

Annealing is hardly a scientific process. It's a process that is used
for the treatment of metals and alloys to return them to a position of
optimum ductility. Cold working of metals results in work hardening
which could lead to cracking and annealing reverses that process. In the
case of the alloy tubing in question, the annealing process is carried
out *prior* to bending as well as after. The process prior removes the
work hardening of manufacture allowing easier bending and the process
after returns the pipe to the most ductile state after bending so that
it won't crack in service.

In my time in my trade I have performed annealing, quenching, tempering
& carburising along with many and varied welding processes. These are
simply *trade skills* that I learnt during my high school years and
during my apprenticeship. No rocket science involved or required.


Well aren't you just the legend in your own mind. For a simple support
bracket bracket (I assume she isn't making a satellite or whatever) it
is hardly necessary to anneal or heat treat a bit of cold formed bar or
pipe to 45deg. Don't think you are the only tradie in the group either!

If it is cracking through work hardening, annealing will prevent it.

And, no I don’t assume I am the only tradie in the group. In fact, there
are many, along with a few fake tradies like Noddy.

Xeno

That's one, but who are these "few" fake tradies?

--

 

[Xeno]

Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com> wrote:

On 16/10/2019 6:57 pm, Xeno wrote:
On 16/10/19 7:58 pm, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 15/10/2019 4:10 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 14/10/2019 1:31 pm, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 13/10/2019 10:23 am, Sylvia Else wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4b15o0hgno2ldu/bracket.jpg?dl=0

The perspective is a bit off - the angles at the end are about 45
degrees.

I made this one myself out of aluminium tubing, but I've already
had one crack and break at the bend.

So I'm trying to buy a steel one, but I can't even figure out what
to search for.

Sylvia.


Jeez!! I've never seen such a fuss about a simple bracket.
How hard could it be ??

How hard could it be to do what?

Sylvia.

I just can't understand why you just don't grab some bar or pipe and
do it. All this stuff about annealing etc. makes it into a scientific
endeavor. Do you have any experience drilling holes or putting a bit
of bar in a vice and bending it ?

Annealing is hardly a scientific process. It's a process that is used
for the treatment of metals and alloys to return them to a position of
optimum ductility. Cold working of metals results in work hardening
which could lead to cracking and annealing reverses that process. In the
case of the alloy tubing in question, the annealing process is carried
out *prior* to bending as well as after. The process prior removes the
work hardening of manufacture allowing easier bending and the process
after returns the pipe to the most ductile state after bending so that
it won't crack in service.

In my time in my trade I have performed annealing, quenching, tempering
& carburising along with many and varied welding processes. These are
simply *trade skills* that I learnt during my high school years and
during my apprenticeship. No rocket science involved or required.


Well aren't you just the legend in your own mind. For a simple support
bracket bracket (I assume she isn't making a satellite or whatever) it
is hardly necessary to anneal or heat treat a bit of cold formed bar or
pipe to 45deg. Don't think you are the only tradie in the group either!

If it is cracking through work hardening, annealing will prevent it.

And, no I don’t assume I am the only tradie in the group. In fact, there
are many, along with a few fake tradies like Noddy.

Xeno