OT: What's this type of bracket called?

[FMurtz]

F Murtz wrote:

felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 4:28 pm, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in news:h0ibh8Fra0rU5
@mid.individual.net:

It can be bent also.

huh? you can bend plastic conduit?



Yes with a variety of methods, judicious use of heat,bending springs,
which you put on the outside or the inside of the conduit, bend round
your knee and remove the spring.



  I knew a guy had a business taking 3" PVC pipe segment about 18"
long and cutting two ten inch slits through them (4 actually).  Then
he heats them up in a big tall pot of boiling water.  Then he presses
the two ends together and the cnetr splits flex outward.  It looks
like a flower when he is done, but he sells them for like $50 each to
the state and they used them as spacers for the refitting of bridge
stanchions.  He makes quite a bundle.


wow. kudos to him for that



  To make a good bend on the plastic conduit, one would likely have to
fill it with sand and do it hot like I described. (then empty the
sand of course).

 

[FMurtz]

felix wrote:

On 14/10/2019 5:56 pm, lindsay wrote:
On 14/10/2019 3:23 pm, felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 12:28 pm, FMurtz wrote:
Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Xeno wrote:

Yes, even plumbers use plastic piping these days.

We have had that for several decades.

Electricians here have an art for bending steel conduit exactly the
way
they need it.  With plastic I suppose they need to assemble more
pieces
and use a selection of standard bends.



It can be bent also.


huh? you can bend plastic conduit?

Yep, you can bend it as much as you like. Tie it in knots, if you so
desire...
https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-medium-duty-corrugated-conduit-twin-pack_p0048925


or even

https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-heavy-duty-corrugated-conduit_p4330843



 I thought we were talking about rigid conduit



Some of us have even actually used it!
https://imgur.com/a/1JyQ6c8



yeah, I have that in the tool shed.

We are, see my muddled out of order posts or try
https://www.google.com/search?q=conduit+bending+springs&rlz=1C1CHBD_en-GBAU824AU824&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQys7Sk5zlAhVzILcAHedHC3UQ_AUIEygC&biw=994&bih=632

https://tinyurl.com/y648ugx5

 

[Clive Arthur]

On 13/10/2019 03:23, Sylvia Else wrote:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4b15o0hgno2ldu/bracket.jpg?dl=0

The perspective is a bit off - the angles at the end are about 45 degrees.

I made this one myself out of aluminium tubing, but I've already had one
crack and break at the bend.

So I'm trying to buy a steel one, but I can't even figure out what to
search for.

Sylvia.

It's a 'knee brace'. Trouble is, that search term gets you lots of
pictures of knees. "Steel knee brace" is better.

Cheers
--
Clive

 

Clive Arthur <cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote in
news:qo27ab$5pk$1@dont-email.me:

On 13/10/2019 03:23, Sylvia Else wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4b15o0hgno2ldu/bracket.jpg?dl=0

The perspective is a bit off - the angles at the end are about 45
degrees.

I made this one myself out of aluminium tubing, but I've already
had one crack and break at the bend.

So I'm trying to buy a steel one, but I can't even figure out
what to search for.

Sylvia.

It's a 'knee brace'. Trouble is, that search term gets you lots
of pictures of knees. "Steel knee brace" is better.

Cheers

knee brace bracket is better too. bracket knee brace is good too

Look for the brand 'unistrut' if you want singular steel brace
type.

 

[Noddy]

On 15/10/2019 3:21 am, FMurtz wrote:

felix wrote:


  I thought we were talking about rigid conduit

Some people might have been, but no one mentioned it specifically.


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Regards,
Noddy.

 

[Noddy]

On 15/10/2019 3:15 am, FMurtz wrote:

F Murtz wrote:

Yes with a variety of methods, judicious use of heat,bending springs,
which you put on the outside or the inside of the conduit, bend round
your knee and remove the spring.

Type this in to your browser

Pvc conduit bending springs


Seem to be not much knowledge on pvc conduit bending here don't suppose
it is of much interest outside the trade.

I wouldn't have thought there would be much interest *within* the
"trade" either these days. The bloke over the road from me is an
industrial electrician, and whenever he needs a "bend" that can't be
satisfied with one of the pre-formed ones he just uses corro.

Time is money.


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Regards,
Noddy.

 

[felix]

On 15/10/2019 11:27 am, lindsay wrote:

On 15/10/2019 12:10 am, felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 5:56 pm, lindsay wrote:
On 14/10/2019 3:23 pm, felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 12:28 pm, FMurtz wrote:
Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Xeno wrote:

Yes, even plumbers use plastic piping these days.

We have had that for several decades.

Electricians here have an art for bending steel conduit exactly
the way
they need it.  With plastic I suppose they need to assemble more
pieces
and use a selection of standard bends.



It can be bent also.


huh? you can bend plastic conduit?

Yep, you can bend it as much as you like. Tie it in knots, if you so
desire...
https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-medium-duty-corrugated-conduit-twin-pack_p0048925


or even

https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-heavy-duty-corrugated-conduit_p4330843



  I thought we were talking about rigid conduit

First time I've seen the term "rigid" used in this thread. Look above,
the bending of steel and plastic conduit is whats being discussed.

yes, rigid conduit

In fact, the flexible medium duty above works out cheaper per metre
than the rigid, and also less elbows and bends are required to make it
even cheaper to use.

Oh, and I see your seine-net killfile is working as good as usual...

you popped out when i reinstalled TB. guess I should pop you back in, if
i can be bothered.

Some of us have even actually used it!
https://imgur.com/a/1JyQ6c8



yeah, I have that in the tool shed.

--
"You're either with Knobbo or someone to be gotten rid of"- Alvey on noddy
"an irrelevant nobody pretending to be something he's not"- Clocky on noddy
"On the spot, instant, without warning, the cowards way! Your way!" - Xeno on noddy

 

[lindsay]

On 15/10/2019 12:10 am, felix wrote:

On 14/10/2019 5:56 pm, lindsay wrote:
On 14/10/2019 3:23 pm, felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 12:28 pm, FMurtz wrote:
Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Xeno wrote:

Yes, even plumbers use plastic piping these days.

We have had that for several decades.

Electricians here have an art for bending steel conduit exactly the
way
they need it.  With plastic I suppose they need to assemble more
pieces
and use a selection of standard bends.



It can be bent also.


huh? you can bend plastic conduit?

Yep, you can bend it as much as you like. Tie it in knots, if you so
desire...
https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-medium-duty-corrugated-conduit-twin-pack_p0048925


or even

https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-heavy-duty-corrugated-conduit_p4330843



 I thought we were talking about rigid conduit

First time I've seen the term "rigid" used in this thread. Look above,
the bending of steel and plastic conduit is whats being discussed. In
fact, the flexible medium duty above works out cheaper per metre than
the rigid, and also less elbows and bends are required to make it even
cheaper to use.

Oh, and I see your seine-net killfile is working as good as usual...

Some of us have even actually used it!
https://imgur.com/a/1JyQ6c8



yeah, I have that in the tool shed.

--
"If his story wasn't total and utter bullshit, it would be a doddle for
him to get the info. Trouble is, he was never involved in the incident.
He knows that, I know that and you had best wake up to it. xeno 24/08/14

"I was never in doubt that the accident took place." xeno 12/08/18

 

[felix]

On 15/10/2019 3:21 am, FMurtz wrote:

felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 5:56 pm, lindsay wrote:
On 14/10/2019 3:23 pm, felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 12:28 pm, FMurtz wrote:
Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Xeno wrote:

Yes, even plumbers use plastic piping these days.

We have had that for several decades.

Electricians here have an art for bending steel conduit exactly
the way
they need it.  With plastic I suppose they need to assemble more
pieces
and use a selection of standard bends.



It can be bent also.


huh? you can bend plastic conduit?

Yep, you can bend it as much as you like. Tie it in knots, if you so
desire...
https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-medium-duty-corrugated-conduit-twin-pack_p0048925


or even

https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-heavy-duty-corrugated-conduit_p4330843



  I thought we were talking about rigid conduit



Some of us have even actually used it!
https://imgur.com/a/1JyQ6c8



yeah, I have that in the tool shed.


We are, see my muddled out of order posts or try
https://www.google.com/search?q=conduit+bending+springs&rlz=1C1CHBD_en-GBAU824AU824&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQys7Sk5zlAhVzILcAHedHC3UQ_AUIEygC&biw=994&bih=632


https://tinyurl.com/y648ugx5

well I've learnt something new

--
"You're either with Knobbo or someone to be gotten rid of"- Alvey on noddy
"an irrelevant nobody pretending to be something he's not"- Clocky on noddy
"On the spot, instant, without warning, the cowards way! Your way!" - Xeno on noddy

 

[felix]

On 15/10/2019 3:15 am, FMurtz wrote:

F Murtz wrote:
felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 4:28 pm, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in news:h0ibh8Fra0rU5
@mid.individual.net:

It can be bent also.

huh? you can bend plastic conduit?



Yes with a variety of methods, judicious use of heat,bending springs,
which you put on the outside or the inside of the conduit, bend round
your knee and remove the spring.

Type this in to your browser

Pvc conduit bending springs


Seem to be not much knowledge on pvc conduit bending here don't
suppose it is of much interest outside the trade.
Used to bend it all the time,just have to bend it a bit further
because it springs back a little,we used to bend over 90 degrees often
but if you want a tight bend better use fittings, it is much cheaper
to bend as it saves fittings and cable pulls round curves easily

I guess the need to do it is largely negated by the flexible corrugated type



--
"You're either with Knobbo or someone to be gotten rid of"- Alvey on noddy
"an irrelevant nobody pretending to be something he's not"- Clocky on noddy
"On the spot, instant, without warning, the cowards way! Your way!" - Xeno on noddy

 

[Clocky]

On 14/10/2019 6:53 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:

On 14/10/2019 11:47 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 13/10/2019 3:23 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4b15o0hgno2ldu/bracket.jpg?dl=0

The perspective is a bit off - the angles at the end are about 45
degrees.

I made this one myself out of aluminium tubing, but I've already had
one crack and break at the bend.

So I'm trying to buy a steel one, but I can't even figure out what to
search for.

Sylvia.

It's called a strut brace or 90 degree strut brace.

Sometimes called a knee strut brace. If you do a Google image search for
"knee strut brace" you'll see heaps of them.

Strut or brace is what I call them, but knee strut brace - I wasn't
aware of that one.

Learn something new every day.

--

 

[felix]

On 15/10/2019 12:04 pm, Xeno wrote:

On 15/10/19 11:41 am, felix wrote:

you popped out when i reinstalled TB. guess I should pop you back in,
if i can be bothered.

He doesn't pop out on my killfile.

he will if you uninstall and delete the app data


--
"You're either with Knobbo or someone to be gotten rid of"- Alvey on noddy
"an irrelevant nobody pretending to be something he's not"- Clocky on noddy
"On the spot, instant, without warning, the cowards way! Your way!" - Xeno on noddy

 

[felix]

On 15/10/2019 12:02 pm, Xeno wrote:

On 15/10/19 11:23 am, felix wrote:
On 15/10/2019 3:21 am, FMurtz wrote:
felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 5:56 pm, lindsay wrote:
On 14/10/2019 3:23 pm, felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 12:28 pm, FMurtz wrote:
Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Xeno wrote:

Yes, even plumbers use plastic piping these days.

We have had that for several decades.

Electricians here have an art for bending steel conduit exactly
the way
they need it.  With plastic I suppose they need to assemble
more pieces
and use a selection of standard bends.



It can be bent also.


huh? you can bend plastic conduit?

Yep, you can bend it as much as you like. Tie it in knots, if you
so desire...
https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-medium-duty-corrugated-conduit-twin-pack_p0048925


or even

https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-heavy-duty-corrugated-conduit_p4330843



  I thought we were talking about rigid conduit



Some of us have even actually used it!
https://imgur.com/a/1JyQ6c8



yeah, I have that in the tool shed.


We are, see my muddled out of order posts or try
https://www.google.com/search?q=conduit+bending+springs&rlz=1C1CHBD_en-GBAU824AU824&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQys7Sk5zlAhVzILcAHedHC3UQ_AUIEygC&biw=994&bih=632


https://tinyurl.com/y648ugx5


well I've learnt something new

They have been around for yonks. I have a set (somewhere) that I
bought decades ago for brake pipes. Not a new idea at all.

I meant I learnt that rigid conduit can be bent, not the method, but I
learnt that too!


--
"You're either with Knobbo or someone to be gotten rid of"- Alvey on noddy
"an irrelevant nobody pretending to be something he's not"- Clocky on noddy
"On the spot, instant, without warning, the cowards way! Your way!" - Xeno on noddy

 

[Clocky]

On 15/10/2019 9:35 am, Clocky wrote:

On 15/10/2019 9:02 am, Xeno wrote:
On 15/10/19 11:23 am, felix wrote:
On 15/10/2019 3:21 am, FMurtz wrote:
felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 5:56 pm, lindsay wrote:
On 14/10/2019 3:23 pm, felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 12:28 pm, FMurtz wrote:
Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Xeno wrote:

Yes, even plumbers use plastic piping these days.

We have had that for several decades.

Electricians here have an art for bending steel conduit exactly
the way
they need it.  With plastic I suppose they need to assemble
more pieces
and use a selection of standard bends.



It can be bent also.


huh? you can bend plastic conduit?

Yep, you can bend it as much as you like. Tie it in knots, if you
so desire...
https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-medium-duty-corrugated-conduit-twin-pack_p0048925


or even

https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-heavy-duty-corrugated-conduit_p4330843



  I thought we were talking about rigid conduit



Some of us have even actually used it!
https://imgur.com/a/1JyQ6c8



yeah, I have that in the tool shed.


We are, see my muddled out of order posts or try
https://www.google.com/search?q=conduit+bending+springs&rlz=1C1CHBD_en-GBAU824AU824&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQys7Sk5zlAhVzILcAHedHC3UQ_AUIEygC&biw=994&bih=632


https://tinyurl.com/y648ugx5


well I've learnt something new

They have been around for yonks. I have a set (somewhere) that I
bought decades ago for brake pipes. Not a new idea at all.


I used one of these type of pipe bender on copper pipes back in the days
when I was doing LPG gas conversions.

Oops:

https://static-content.cromwell.co.uk/images/854_854/g/jeeps/588/hil5883100a.jpg


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[Clocky]

On 15/10/2019 9:02 am, Xeno wrote:

On 15/10/19 11:23 am, felix wrote:
On 15/10/2019 3:21 am, FMurtz wrote:
felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 5:56 pm, lindsay wrote:
On 14/10/2019 3:23 pm, felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 12:28 pm, FMurtz wrote:
Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Xeno wrote:

Yes, even plumbers use plastic piping these days.

We have had that for several decades.

Electricians here have an art for bending steel conduit exactly
the way
they need it.  With plastic I suppose they need to assemble more
pieces
and use a selection of standard bends.



It can be bent also.


huh? you can bend plastic conduit?

Yep, you can bend it as much as you like. Tie it in knots, if you
so desire...
https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-medium-duty-corrugated-conduit-twin-pack_p0048925


or even

https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-heavy-duty-corrugated-conduit_p4330843



  I thought we were talking about rigid conduit



Some of us have even actually used it!
https://imgur.com/a/1JyQ6c8



yeah, I have that in the tool shed.


We are, see my muddled out of order posts or try
https://www.google.com/search?q=conduit+bending+springs&rlz=1C1CHBD_en-GBAU824AU824&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQys7Sk5zlAhVzILcAHedHC3UQ_AUIEygC&biw=994&bih=632


https://tinyurl.com/y648ugx5


well I've learnt something new

They have been around for yonks. I have a set (somewhere) that I bought
decades ago for brake pipes. Not a new idea at all.

I used one of these type of pipe bender on copper pipes back in the days
when I was doing LPG gas conversions.

--

 

[Clocky]

On 15/10/2019 8:20 am, felix wrote:

On 15/10/2019 3:15 am, FMurtz wrote:
F Murtz wrote:
felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 4:28 pm, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
felix <felix@real_felix.invalid> wrote in news:h0ibh8Fra0rU5
@mid.individual.net:

It can be bent also.

huh? you can bend plastic conduit?



Yes with a variety of methods, judicious use of heat,bending springs,
which you put on the outside or the inside of the conduit, bend round
your knee and remove the spring.

Type this in to your browser

Pvc conduit bending springs


Seem to be not much knowledge on pvc conduit bending here don't
suppose it is of much interest outside the trade.
Used to bend it all the time,just have to bend it a bit further
because it springs back a little,we used to bend over 90 degrees often
but if you want a tight bend better use fittings, it is much cheaper
to bend as it saves fittings and cable pulls round curves easily


I guess the need to do it is largely negated by the flexible corrugated
type

Yep.

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[Noddy]

On 15/10/2019 11:27 am, lindsay wrote:

On 15/10/2019 12:10 am, felix wrote:


  I thought we were talking about rigid conduit

First time I've seen the term "rigid" used in this thread. Look above,
the bending of steel and plastic conduit is whats being discussed. In
fact, the flexible medium duty above works out cheaper per metre than
the rigid, and also less elbows and bends are required to make it even
cheaper to use.

Indeed. That's why it's popular. Because it's easy *and* cheap.

> Oh, and I see your seine-net killfile is working as good as usual...

He's a fucking legend, isn't he?

Seriously, the comedy value seems to be limitless. I mean, I saw the
other day he was replying directly to a number of my posts, and this is
some time *after* he asked me to plonk him and said that he was doing
the same for me at his end. I've still got him in the bin along with all
his fucktarded playmates, but if he ever had me in his it wasn't for
very long

Relevance deprivation gets them all in the end. It makes no difference
to me, but if he wants to be let out I'll let him out and talk to him.
However something tells me he has too much of Alvey's illness where he'd
rather spend his time in one way conversations where he whinges about
everything known to man than actually engage in conversation and risk
showing himself up to be an idiot who has his arse handed to him every
time he opens his trap.

It's his nickel



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Regards,
Noddy.

 

[Xeno]

On 15/10/19 11:23 am, felix wrote:

On 15/10/2019 3:21 am, FMurtz wrote:
felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 5:56 pm, lindsay wrote:
On 14/10/2019 3:23 pm, felix wrote:
On 14/10/2019 12:28 pm, FMurtz wrote:
Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Xeno wrote:

Yes, even plumbers use plastic piping these days.

We have had that for several decades.

Electricians here have an art for bending steel conduit exactly
the way
they need it.  With plastic I suppose they need to assemble more
pieces
and use a selection of standard bends.



It can be bent also.


huh? you can bend plastic conduit?

Yep, you can bend it as much as you like. Tie it in knots, if you so
desire...
https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-medium-duty-corrugated-conduit-twin-pack_p0048925


or even

https://www.bunnings.com.au/deta-20mm-x-10m-heavy-duty-corrugated-conduit_p4330843



  I thought we were talking about rigid conduit



Some of us have even actually used it!
https://imgur.com/a/1JyQ6c8



yeah, I have that in the tool shed.


We are, see my muddled out of order posts or try
https://www.google.com/search?q=conduit+bending+springs&rlz=1C1CHBD_en-GBAU824AU824&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQys7Sk5zlAhVzILcAHedHC3UQ_AUIEygC&biw=994&bih=632


https://tinyurl.com/y648ugx5


well I've learnt something new

They have been around for yonks. I have a set (somewhere) that I bought
decades ago for brake pipes. Not a new idea at all.

--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

 

[Xeno]

On 15/10/19 11:41 am, felix wrote:

you popped out when i reinstalled TB. guess I should pop you back in, if
i can be bothered.

He doesn't pop out on my killfile.


--

Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
(with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

 

Clocky <notgonn@happen.com> wrote in
news:qo32ff$8d4$3@dont-email.me:

On 14/10/2019 6:53 pm, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 14/10/2019 11:47 PM, ~misfit~ wrote:
On 13/10/2019 3:23 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b4b15o0hgno2ldu/bracket.jpg?dl=0

The perspective is a bit off - the angles at the end are about
45 degrees.

I made this one myself out of aluminium tubing, but I've
already had one crack and break at the bend.

So I'm trying to buy a steel one, but I can't even figure out
what to search for.

Sylvia.

It's called a strut brace or 90 degree strut brace.

Sometimes called a knee strut brace. If you do a Google image
search for "knee strut brace" you'll see heaps of them.

Strut or brace is what I call them, but knee strut brace - I
wasn't aware of that one.

Learn something new every day.

Google doesn't do mil spec type search. It would be called

Bracket, knee

To describe a "knee bracket".