OT: UK to move back to imperial units?

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 7/28/2019 14:45, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 14:12:49 +0300, upsidedown wrote:

There needs to be a customs border somewhere, otherwise the Brit tons
will be trucking toll-free their goods from England across to Northern
Ireland, then into Republic of Ireland and then to the continental EU.

I'm sorry, but you've started off with a completely false premise here.
That's not the way it works. There are no viable routes from the Irish
Republic to mainland Europe except via England. The EU could try
establishing a new ferry service direct, but that would add huge cost to
good shipped *and* be impossible to make work in the period October to
April due to the dangerous and unpredictable storms in the Irish Sea
during that period. Geopolitically, the UK has the Republic by the balls
- we are trying to avoid being nasty but it will happen if there's no
alternative. They're asking for it already IMV.

If anything, you trolls are both voicy and persistent, I'll give
you that.

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 11:18:37 +0100, TTman wrote:

Basically the bloke is a knob, like most of those in politics.
What I hate most is ' let me be clear on this. They're never clear on
anything!

Nigel is, though! God bless that man.



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[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:32:02 +0000, Cursitor Doom wrote:

I hope Phil's in no rush to take you up on that. I'm still waiting
patiently for my burger and fries from the previous millennium.

And they've probably gone stale by now.



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[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 14:12:49 +0300, upsidedown wrote:

There needs to be a customs border somewhere, otherwise the Brit tons
will be trucking toll-free their goods from England across to Northern
Ireland, then into Republic of Ireland and then to the continental EU.

I'm sorry, but you've started off with a completely false premise here.
That's not the way it works. There are no viable routes from the Irish
Republic to mainland Europe except via England. The EU could try
establishing a new ferry service direct, but that would add huge cost to
good shipped *and* be impossible to make work in the period October to
April due to the dangerous and unpredictable storms in the Irish Sea
during that period. Geopolitically, the UK has the Republic by the balls
- we are trying to avoid being nasty but it will happen if there's no
alternative. They're asking for it already IMV.




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On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 11:45:58 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 14:12:49 +0300, upsidedown wrote:

There needs to be a customs border somewhere, otherwise the Brit tons
will be trucking toll-free their goods from England across to Northern
Ireland, then into Republic of Ireland and then to the continental EU.

I'm sorry, but you've started off with a completely false premise here.
That's not the way it works. There are no viable routes from the Irish
Republic to mainland Europe except via England. The EU could try
establishing a new ferry service direct, but that would add huge cost to
good shipped *and* be impossible to make work in the period October to
April due to the dangerous and unpredictable storms in the Irish Sea
during that period. Geopolitically, the UK has the Republic by the balls
- we are trying to avoid being nasty but it will happen if there's no
alternative. They're asking for it already IMV.

If the UK starts bullying too much, it is time for a new Continental
Blockade i.e. closing continental (air)ports for UK vehicles .

 

On Sunday, 28 July 2019 04:22:04 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:31:17 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:
John Larkin is an Autistic Psychopath wrote:
John Larkin Massive Autistic Prick wrote:


I can't say. I never watch television.



** That says it all really.

Many autistics cannot enjoy watching TV or films cos nearly all of it passes right over their pointed little heads.


No, my problem with TV is that the content is usually trash and
especially the data rate, the effective bandwidth, is way too low. I
read about 400 wpm and nobody talks that fast.


** What absolute lunacy.



And when I'm reading, I can scan a paragraph, or a chapter, and
usually determine if it has worthwhile content, and skip ahead to
something more interesting. I can't very well do that with a TV show.
It just drones along. Commercials don't help any. Even PBS here now
has endless ads.



** How does this narcissistic prick hold a conversation with anyone who is not autistic ??

The answer is *very badly* and with nil comprehension.


I'm a tad austic in that I don't appreciate most art or poetry or
music


** That is not a little bit, that is MASSIVE autism.



Near total lack of insight, empathy and an ability to quickly
form intelligent "theories of thought" are the reasons.

Electronic design, especially design that interfaces with physics and
optics and mechanical systems, requires some wide-ranging thinking.


** Larkin simply has no idea what I am alluding to.

Agreed, I don't.


He only rationalises and bullshits to hide his disability from himself.

I'm pretty happy and pretty successful. I have a beautiful smart wife
and two dynamite daughters. They can be social for me while I design
stuff. What's wrong with that? The world needs good electronics.


Totally evil person.

Not at all. I've done a lot of good. Most engineers make the world
better. We reduce disorder. We make things work.

Where are the links to the lateral mosfets? To great novels and
movies?

You snip the things that you don't want to deal with. That's a kind of
disability itself.

Engineering is a huge good for the world on the whole. Unlike many other subjects. Phil is off in his own world again.


NT

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:28:07 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor
Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote in <qhjpr7$bi9$3@dont-email.me>:

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 10:10:17 +0300, upsidedown wrote:


Sure it solvable, but may lead to bizarre solutions, like the Åland
island case.

It doesn't require a solution because there's no problem in the first
place! The whole "Irish Backstop" issue (the prevention of a hard border
arising between N. Ireland and the Republic) is a non-issue. Both parties
have stated unequivocally that they don't want any border infrastructure
erected and they are the only two parties who *could* put it up; there's
no one else involved.
The whole thing is an invention dreamed up by the EU in an attempt to
thwart Brexit. May was happy to give the concept credence, because the
conniving bitch was a Remainer and like all politicians, thought she
somehow knew better than the 'plebs' who voted in the Referendum. She was
in cahoots with the EU. Thank god she's out of it now.

I do not think May was that bad, she simply faced big problems.
'Will of the people' versus 'Will of the big companies' (trade), resurrection of the IRA.

There is little to gain from leaving the EU, and 'Will of the People' does not make what those want the right thing.
The whole thing seems trump inspired division and started when he came to power.
It's aim is
1) to weaken the EU
2) to weaken the UK, then get the best deal with the UK at the lowest price point, basically rob it.

UK has nothing to negotiate left, it stands alone if Brexit succeeds.
In the mean time trump is starting WW3 and the whole world may fall apart,

The new guy in number 10 is just a trumpist puppet has has nothing but words
whispered into his ears by trumps CIA messengers.

There is also UK immigration, last time I was in Londen many years ago it looked like India
in some places, Indian shops.

So 'the people' have changed, and their habits, hell I even noticed a women in burka in a park there.
It is not the old good English style anymore, it is a mix of all sort of cultures.

In the larger view with climate heating set by orbital changes maybe Africa will burn to death
and all that sheep herder IQ will move north and destroy current N European civilization.
goes for S America versus N America too.

It is perhaps a very good idea to study maps of continents and the vegetation of the last 1000,000 years
and the 20,000 year glacier cycle, to see where there were livable spaces.
This link seems dead,
http://www.sci.ccny.cuny.edu/~stan/d_clim.pdf
but I have the paper, downloaded in 2006:
http://panteltje.com/pub/d_clim.pdf

Many good links have been removed possibly by antropo-whatsit climate change fanatics...

Taken into account those changes, what is the value of that island?
It is all a temporary solution, and especially if UK participates in trumpist wars
radioactive polluted land is not worth much.
Then they will all have to apply for asylum in the EU...
OK.

May can come, Boris? I dunno.

 

On Sunday, 28 July 2019 02:15:57 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 17:28:39 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:
John Larkin Massive Autistic Prick wrote:

I can't say. I never watch television.

** That says it all really.

Many autistics cannot enjoy watching TV or films cos nearly all of it passes right over their pointed little heads.

No, my problem with TV is that the content is usually trash and

+1. Even when it's not trash it's still a waste of one's life.


NT

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 07:36:37 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 28/07/19 02:21, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:


UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff

Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)


2pi = 6 is usually close enough.

It's a game in our place to do math in our heads, standing at the
whiteboard.

Does that RC time constant affect the loop? Think for three or four
seconds and decide.

Newbies and visitors are impressed.

When I was a kid pi*pi = g = 10, and that was allowed
in physics and chemistry exams.

Time to resurrect my slipstick

A slide rule doesn't manage the exponent, and often the exponent is
all you need.


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lunatic fringe electronics

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 11:46:28 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:32:02 +0000, Cursitor Doom wrote:

I hope Phil's in no rush to take you up on that. I'm still waiting
patiently for my burger and fries from the previous millennium.

And they've probably gone stale by now.

The burgers and fries at Zuni and Absinthe and Trick Dog are
astounding, but they don't come with plane tickets. I can send you a
gift certificate for McDonalds.


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lunatic fringe electronics

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 11:23:30 +0100, TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com>
wrote:

They seem really desperate to find ways to distract as larger part
of the public as possible from the ongoing brexit nonsense. Imperial
units, "we are an emprie", LOL. Then these tanker conflicts etc.,
it will be interesting to watch if/how they are going to get it
their way. Johnson at no 10 wants to look as ballsy as he can, too
bad he is not as brainy as necessary.... I expect things in the UK to
literally fall apart - to the delight of the Kremlin.

Dimiter

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Boris appears to be a buffon a la Benny Hill but he's actually a smart
thinker. It's his mouth that lets him down.'Engage brain before opening
mouth' springs to mind.

We have a guy like that, but what's important is what he does, not
whether we approve of his personality.

We can ignore his personality, but we can't ignore tax forms.


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lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 7/28/2019 16:00, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 28 Jul 2019 09:28:07 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor
Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote in <qhjpr7$bi9$3@dont-email.me>:

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 10:10:17 +0300, upsidedown wrote:


Sure it solvable, but may lead to bizarre solutions, like the Åland
island case.

It doesn't require a solution because there's no problem in the first
place! The whole "Irish Backstop" issue (the prevention of a hard border
arising between N. Ireland and the Republic) is a non-issue. Both parties
have stated unequivocally that they don't want any border infrastructure
erected and they are the only two parties who *could* put it up; there's
no one else involved.
The whole thing is an invention dreamed up by the EU in an attempt to
thwart Brexit. May was happy to give the concept credence, because the
conniving bitch was a Remainer and like all politicians, thought she
somehow knew better than the 'plebs' who voted in the Referendum. She was
in cahoots with the EU. Thank god she's out of it now.

I do not think May was that bad, she simply faced big problems.
'Will of the people' versus 'Will of the big companies' (trade), resurrection of the IRA.

There is little to gain from leaving the EU, and 'Will of the People' does not make what those want the right thing.
The whole thing seems trump inspired division and started when he came to power.
It's aim is
1) to weaken the EU
2) to weaken the UK, then get the best deal with the UK at the lowest price point, basically rob it.

UK has nothing to negotiate left, it stands alone if Brexit succeeds.
In the mean time trump is starting WW3 and the whole world may fall apart,

The new guy in number 10 is just a trumpist puppet has has nothing but words
whispered into his ears by trumps CIA messengers.

There is also UK immigration, last time I was in Londen many years ago it looked like India
in some places, Indian shops.

So 'the people' have changed, and their habits, hell I even noticed a women in burka in a park there.
It is not the old good English style anymore, it is a mix of all sort of cultures.

In the larger view with climate heating set by orbital changes maybe Africa will burn to death
and all that sheep herder IQ will move north and destroy current N European civilization.
goes for S America versus N America too.

It is perhaps a very good idea to study maps of continents and the vegetation of the last 1000,000 years
and the 20,000 year glacier cycle, to see where there were livable spaces.
This link seems dead,
http://www.sci.ccny.cuny.edu/~stan/d_clim.pdf
but I have the paper, downloaded in 2006:
http://panteltje.com/pub/d_clim.pdf

Many good links have been removed possibly by antropo-whatsit climate change fanatics...

Taken into account those changes, what is the value of that island?
It is all a temporary solution, and especially if UK participates in trumpist wars
radioactive polluted land is not worth much.
Then they will all have to apply for asylum in the EU...
OK.

May can come, Boris? I dunno.

I think I see similar scenarios but I also think you might reassign
the persons who are relevant. Just consider the obvious facts:

Trump is the third US president during Putin's reign;
Putin is the 8-th Russian president during Elizabeth II's reign.

And I think Elizabeth has more brains than Trump and Putin put
together, apart from both of them being dwarfs compared to her
in terms of political experience/longevity.

A weaker west is good for the Kremlin; what does the Queen see as
being better I can't even begin to guess. Preserve her kingdom from the
threat it will become a part of an EU state? Perhaps possible. But
likely things are a lot more complicated than that, it may turn out
she stops brexit in the last moment or whatever (a single word of
her would suffice for the public in England).

Dimiter

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 9:12:44 PM UTC+10, Phil Allison wrote:

Bill Sloman wrote:


Phil Allison has some fairly serious misconceptions about autism.


** No he does not.

Someone high on the ASD spectrum has no right to any such opinion.

Like you.

Don't be a half-wit. I'm not on the autism spectrum at all.

Autism is all about not being able to detect social cues.

* Major characteristic.

** Autistics are all evil, to varying degrees.

Evil doesn't come into it at all.

** Course it does, serious lack of empathy = evil.

Autism is about not being able to pick up social cues. When they do manage to work out that somebody else is distressed, they are just as empathic as anybody else. You are confusing a low-level communications problem - autism - with a higher-level problem which is more about not bothering to think about another person's situation.

If you don't understand what's going on in a social situation you may
say or do quite the wrong thing, but there are unlikely to be any
evil intentions involved.

** Intention, good or bad, is not the issue.

It's central to labeling behaviour as evil.

> Psychopaths feel completely justified while carrying out the most vile acts.

But autism has nothing to do with being psychopathic. You need to be good at low-level social communication to get way with being psychopathic, so an autistic psychopath would be much too obviously evil to get away with anything.

> Charles Manson for example.

He was certainly nuts, but nothing suggests that he was in the least autistic.

For what it's worth, John Larkin strikes me as very unlikely to be autistic.

** Figures - cos you are even worse them him.

Perhaps, but neither of us is autistic

> Larkin has never threatened me personally, like you have.

That part was intended to be funny. The coffee offer was real.

> FYI my phone number is 9799 8242.

Mine is 8386 2725.

> Call me if you like, I promise to be fair and polite.

Not right now. I've got to go to bed.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

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[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 13:00:34 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

There is little to gain from leaving the EU, and 'Will of the People'
does not make what those want the right thing.

Oh dear. I'm afraid I'm a very firm believer in democracy so the 'will of
the people' (who do all the work to support the parasite class and have
to take all their rules) is paramount IMV. Any leader who can't see that
is going down a very dangerous path indeed.

> UK has nothing to negotiate left, it stands alone if Brexit succeeds.

Stood alone in 1940 as well as you seem to forget. Not afraid to do it
again, either.

The new guy in number 10 is just a trumpist puppet has has nothing but
words whispered into his ears by trumps CIA messengers.

Hard to see how he can be a "Trumpist puppet" when he said Trump was out
of touch with reality over his London crime remarks and unfit for the
office of President!
But you carry on trotting out the rubbish printed and broadcast by the
media if it makes you happy, Jan.



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[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 15:41:51 +0300, upsidedown wrote:

If the UK starts bullying too much, it is time for a new Continental
Blockade i.e. closing continental (air)ports for UK vehicles .

Can't see the French and the Germans (in particular) going down that
route!



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[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 15:24:19 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

If anything, you trolls are both voicy and persistent, I'll give you
that.

So says someone who's obviously got no counter argument.




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[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 07:34:54 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

The burgers and fries at Zuni and Absinthe and Trick Dog are astounding,
but they don't come with plane tickets. I can send you a gift
certificate for McDonalds.

That's not the point, though. We're supposed to sit down together and set
the world to rights whilst I eat that (very long awaited) burger and
chips.
I'm not coming to SF anyway; too many queers. Let me know next time
you're in Yurp and I'll sort something out.



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[Michael Kellett]

On 27/07/2019 13:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff

Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.

duh

One of the great glories of SED is watching all you guys who don't live
here in the UK getting the wrong end of the stick.
JRM is the new boss in his department. He likes the written output of
his department to stick to the style guide he prefers.
It's not folly, or dictatorship.
For example, in British politics it has become commonplace to describe
practices, events or occurrences as "unacceptable". It's used mainly for
virtue signalling.
JRM wants his minions to think before they write, so banning lazy
shorthand and platitudes is OK by me.

MK

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[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 19:01:20 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

Yeah yeah, like I said in another post on another topic I know all the
repertoire of you russian troll crowd. Asking for agruments against
retarded nonsense you post is quite stadard.

Tell us what you do for a living. Then tell us *when* you do it.

So says someone who's obviously got no counter argument.




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[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 7/28/2019 17:16, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jul 2019 15:24:19 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:

If anything, you trolls are both voicy and persistent, I'll give you
that.

So says someone who's obviously got no counter argument.

Yeah yeah, like I said in another post on another topic I know all
the repertoire of you russian troll crowd. Asking for agruments
against retarded nonsense you post is quite stadard.

Tell us what you do for a living. Then tell us *when* you do it.