OT: UK to move back to imperial units?

[Jasen Betts]

On 2019-07-27, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:22:11 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 18:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:45:18 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Absolutely unacceptable,
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh-oh! I think that's one of his banned words you just used there, Jan!

But seriously, this is the Guardian, which is hell-bent on getting Brexit
reversed at all costs. Guardian=BBC=CNN=MSNBC; they're all in the same
bracket when it comes to fake news.

Even worse than fake news: predictable news.



Predictable using hindsight, yeah. Demonstrate how you predicted this
piece of news, LOL.


"Predictable news" is like "zero-ohm resistor."

You mean out of spec?


--
When I tried casting out nines I made a hash of it.

 

[John Robertson]

On 2019/07/27 1:21 p.m., John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 22:54:35 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 22:38, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 21:43:51 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 21:27, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:49:25 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 20:26, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:22:11 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 18:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:45:18 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Absolutely unacceptable,
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh-oh! I think that's one of his banned words you just used there, Jan!

But seriously, this is the Guardian, which is hell-bent on getting Brexit
reversed at all costs. Guardian=BBC=CNN=MSNBC; they're all in the same
bracket when it comes to fake news.

Even worse than fake news: predictable news.



Predictable using hindsight, yeah. Demonstrate how you predicted this
piece of news, LOL.0603 or


"Predictable news" is like "zero-ohm resistor."


0603 or 0204? They carry them all over the place you know .

I watched - somewhat by chance - "The Loudest Voice", the series
is yet to complete. No idea how fact based it is - never watched
FOX news - but if marginally true then I can see at least part of
what strengthened the division in the US. Are they non-zero-ohm in
your opinion?

I can't say. I never watch television.

But how did you know about the other news sources you branded as
"worse than fake, predictable"?

Well, I do check the web and get two print newspapers.

What's crazy is that you show me an outrageously unbalanced "news"
article, I can pretty well assign it to a list of likely sources. The
"reporting" is that prejudiced and predictable.

Journalism, honest research and reporting of findings, is mostly dead.

I need a hot dog. PCB layout is hungry work.





Well fox news do have a website as well you know .
I also get the news on the web, what else. Mostly the BBC.
While eating in front of the tv sometimes I watch sky news.

How do you "balance" news like that? I mean it is as moronic
as it gets, unless proven false - which does not seem to be
the case - it is what it is, this person is in office and
has said all that. Good luck balancing that.


I need a hot dog. PCB layout is hungry work.


I ate more than I had to already - which did not help
soldering a 78l033 and a 78l12 - both of them, to-92 - the wrong way
around. I replaced the 78l033 after noticing it was shorted
input to output and put it back again the wrong way around, that
looking at a photo of the first board (just two of them, really
simple buffers and a stepdown on it). (The first board has worked for
over a year now, mostly at the customers).
So beware, eating can be counterproductive . I'll make tea now
and hopefully solder them the correct way around.....


Well, you know what boys do when their wife is away: eat meat over the
sink.

Actually, The Brat and I are working on a PCB layout together this
weekend, in shifts. I'm doing the basic placement and routing of
example channels, and she can replicate them. She really likes routing
BGAs and doing power pours, so I'll let her do that too.

This board is embarassing; it will be about half whitespace when it's
done. There's almost no way to make a low density board look good.

Why not add some silkscreen or copper artwork? If you have real estate
that won't be affected by any resonant bits if done in copper. Or is
this a production product?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xqod5khgpoa9lzn/TEM_Plus_A7.jpg?raw=1

We pass notes to one another in red, on layer 10.

Sounds like fun.

John

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 7/27/19 5:32 PM, John Robertson wrote:

On 2019/07/27 1:21 p.m., John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 22:54:35 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 22:38, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 21:43:51 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 21:27, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:49:25 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 20:26, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:22:11 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 18:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:45:18 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Absolutely unacceptable,
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh-oh! I think that's one of his banned words you just used
there, Jan!

But seriously, this is the Guardian, which is hell-bent on
getting Brexit
reversed at all costs. Guardian=BBC=CNN=MSNBC; they're all in
the same
bracket when it comes to fake news.

Even worse than fake news: predictable news.



Predictable using hindsight, yeah. Demonstrate how you
predicted this
piece of news, LOL.0603 or


"Predictable news" is like "zero-ohm resistor."


0603 or 0204? They carry them all over the place you know .

I watched - somewhat by chance - "The Loudest Voice", the series
is yet to complete. No idea how fact based it is - never watched
FOX news - but if marginally true then I can see at least part of
what strengthened the division in the US. Are they non-zero-ohm in
your opinion?

I can't say. I never watch television.

But how did you know about the other news sources you branded as
"worse than fake, predictable"?

Well, I do check the web and get two print newspapers.

What's crazy is that you show me an outrageously unbalanced "news"
article, I can pretty well assign it to a list of likely sources. The
"reporting" is that prejudiced and predictable.

Journalism, honest research and reporting of findings, is mostly dead.

I need a hot dog. PCB layout is hungry work.





Well fox news do have a website as well you know .
I also get the news on the web, what else. Mostly the BBC.
While eating in front of the tv sometimes I watch sky news.

How do you "balance" news like that? I mean it is as moronic
as it gets, unless proven false - which does not seem to be
the case - it is what it is, this person is in office and
has said all that. Good luck balancing that.


I need a hot dog. PCB layout is hungry work.


I ate more than I had to already - which did not help
soldering a 78l033 and a 78l12 - both of them, to-92 - the wrong way
around. I replaced the 78l033 after noticing it was shorted
input to output and put it back again the wrong way around, that
looking at a photo of the first board (just two of them, really
simple buffers and a stepdown on it). (The first board has worked for
over a year now, mostly at the customers).
So beware, eating can be counterproductive . I'll make tea now
and hopefully solder them the correct way around.....


Well, you know what boys do when their wife is away: eat meat over the
sink.

Actually, The Brat and I are working on a PCB layout together this
weekend, in shifts. I'm doing the basic placement and routing of
example channels, and she can replicate them. She really likes routing
BGAs and doing power pours, so I'll let her do that too.

This board is embarassing; it will be about half whitespace when it's
done. There's almost no way to make a low density board look good.

Why not add some silkscreen or copper artwork? If you have real estate
that won't be affected by any resonant bits if done in copper. Or is
this a production product?


https://www.dropbox.com/s/xqod5khgpoa9lzn/TEM_Plus_A7.jpg?raw=1

We pass notes to one another in red, on layer 10.


Sounds like fun.

John

We've standardized on ENIG boards with white silk on blue mask, except
that our logo and board title are in the mask layer, so they come out in
gold. Bling bling!

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 7/27/19 4:00 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 15:39:15 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 7/27/19 12:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 27/07/19 17:19, bitrex wrote:
On 7/27/19 11:04 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 27/07/19 15:38, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-07-27 05:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff


Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.


Also, a disdain for mint sauce can result in the revocation of
British citizenship and if a guy doesn't like Extra Special Bitter
that shows lack of pluck so he gets his man card pulled.

For either of those offenses, that penalty would be justified

As for the rest, <exits left, screaming uncontrollably


If you must use mint on lamb you could do this:

https://www.familycircle.com/recipe/lamb-with-mint-crema-tacos/

That's a 404 here, which illustrates good judgement somewhere.


I'd prefer a firey habanero pepper sauce but cilantro and mint makes a
pretty good team

I'm not overfond of capsaicin, but I like it in small amounts.
But it would totally dominate the flavour of good well-hung lamb.

OTOH, mint is a pleasing aroma, and the vinegar cuts
through the fattiness of the best lamb.


Exactly. Round here French mint grows wild, so we pick a bunch and put
it into the food processor with rice vinegar, a bit of water, and a tiny
tiny bit of sugar.

Just the thing for roast lamb or lamb chops. (I prefer chops, because
various-people-who-shall-not-be-named think it's a good idea to put
cloves of garlic in roast lamb. Blech.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I said to Mo, "Am I using too much garlic?"

Her response was "Excuse me, but I don't understand those words."

We are celebrating now, because the fresh garlic crop, huge pungent
bulbs, have arrived.

There are lots of recipes where MAGA\h\h\h\h mega garlic is just right.
Roast lamb is not one of them.

Pro tip: Nowadays New Zealand lamb is mostly mutton--way too strong
tasting, and tough as nails. Get the domestic stuff.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 7/27/19 3:56 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 15:44:25 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 7/27/19 1:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 07:38:01 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com
wrote:

On 2019-07-27 05:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff

Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.


Also, a disdain for mint sauce can result in the revocation of British
citizenship and if a guy doesn't like Extra Special Bitter that shows
lack of pluck so he gets his man card pulled.



The official test of Real American Manhood is to down a pint of the
most intense, bitter, nasty, hop-overloaded IPA available. Extra
points if it's sour too, or accompanied by a jalapeno-packed,
hot-sauce-soaked breakfast burrito.

Lumbersexual brogrammers all agree on that.



Pure sour grapes (or maybe hops). I don't drink a lot of beer on
account of the carbs, but my preference is firmly in the 120 minute IPA
direction.

Re: breakfast burritos--the champ in my experience is from the Flying
Star in north Albuquerque. The surprise ingredient is canned pinto
beans, complete with the (somewhat gelatinous) fluid.

Amazing.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


Ok, we can agree on that: amazing.

Do you make breakfast burritos with canned pintos?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs




--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:23:57 +0300, Tauno Voipio
<tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> wrote:

On 27.7.19 15:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff

Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.

duh

Including guineas, pounds, shillings and pence?

Why was there a guinea? Maybe a pound made of better grade gold?


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:30:50 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 7/27/19 3:56 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 15:44:25 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 7/27/19 1:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 07:38:01 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com
wrote:

On 2019-07-27 05:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff

Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.


Also, a disdain for mint sauce can result in the revocation of British
citizenship and if a guy doesn't like Extra Special Bitter that shows
lack of pluck so he gets his man card pulled.



The official test of Real American Manhood is to down a pint of the
most intense, bitter, nasty, hop-overloaded IPA available. Extra
points if it's sour too, or accompanied by a jalapeno-packed,
hot-sauce-soaked breakfast burrito.

Lumbersexual brogrammers all agree on that.



Pure sour grapes (or maybe hops). I don't drink a lot of beer on
account of the carbs, but my preference is firmly in the 120 minute IPA
direction.

Re: breakfast burritos--the champ in my experience is from the Flying
Star in north Albuquerque. The surprise ingredient is canned pinto
beans, complete with the (somewhat gelatinous) fluid.

Amazing.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


Ok, we can agree on that: amazing.

Do you make breakfast burritos with canned pintos?

That question is academic.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Next time you're out west, we'll take you to have what is officially
the best burrito in the USA, about a mile from here.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:29:36 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 7/27/19 4:00 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 15:39:15 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 7/27/19 12:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 27/07/19 17:19, bitrex wrote:
On 7/27/19 11:04 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 27/07/19 15:38, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-07-27 05:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff


Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.


Also, a disdain for mint sauce can result in the revocation of
British citizenship and if a guy doesn't like Extra Special Bitter
that shows lack of pluck so he gets his man card pulled.

For either of those offenses, that penalty would be justified

As for the rest, <exits left, screaming uncontrollably


If you must use mint on lamb you could do this:

https://www.familycircle.com/recipe/lamb-with-mint-crema-tacos/

That's a 404 here, which illustrates good judgement somewhere.


I'd prefer a firey habanero pepper sauce but cilantro and mint makes a
pretty good team

I'm not overfond of capsaicin, but I like it in small amounts.
But it would totally dominate the flavour of good well-hung lamb.

OTOH, mint is a pleasing aroma, and the vinegar cuts
through the fattiness of the best lamb.


Exactly. Round here French mint grows wild, so we pick a bunch and put
it into the food processor with rice vinegar, a bit of water, and a tiny
tiny bit of sugar.

Just the thing for roast lamb or lamb chops. (I prefer chops, because
various-people-who-shall-not-be-named think it's a good idea to put
cloves of garlic in roast lamb. Blech.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I said to Mo, "Am I using too much garlic?"

Her response was "Excuse me, but I don't understand those words."

We are celebrating now, because the fresh garlic crop, huge pungent
bulbs, have arrived.

There are lots of recipes where MAGA\h\h\h\h mega garlic is just right.
Roast lamb is not one of them.

Make Aioli Great Again.

Pro tip: Nowadays New Zealand lamb is mostly mutton--way too strong
tasting, and tough as nails. Get the domestic stuff.

Or veal.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 14:32:56 -0700, John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>
wrote:

On 2019/07/27 1:21 p.m., John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 22:54:35 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 22:38, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 21:43:51 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 21:27, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:49:25 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 20:26, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:22:11 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 18:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:45:18 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Absolutely unacceptable,
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh-oh! I think that's one of his banned words you just used there, Jan!

But seriously, this is the Guardian, which is hell-bent on getting Brexit
reversed at all costs. Guardian=BBC=CNN=MSNBC; they're all in the same
bracket when it comes to fake news.

Even worse than fake news: predictable news.



Predictable using hindsight, yeah. Demonstrate how you predicted this
piece of news, LOL.0603 or


"Predictable news" is like "zero-ohm resistor."


0603 or 0204? They carry them all over the place you know .

I watched - somewhat by chance - "The Loudest Voice", the series
is yet to complete. No idea how fact based it is - never watched
FOX news - but if marginally true then I can see at least part of
what strengthened the division in the US. Are they non-zero-ohm in
your opinion?

I can't say. I never watch television.

But how did you know about the other news sources you branded as
"worse than fake, predictable"?

Well, I do check the web and get two print newspapers.

What's crazy is that you show me an outrageously unbalanced "news"
article, I can pretty well assign it to a list of likely sources. The
"reporting" is that prejudiced and predictable.

Journalism, honest research and reporting of findings, is mostly dead.

I need a hot dog. PCB layout is hungry work.





Well fox news do have a website as well you know .
I also get the news on the web, what else. Mostly the BBC.
While eating in front of the tv sometimes I watch sky news.

How do you "balance" news like that? I mean it is as moronic
as it gets, unless proven false - which does not seem to be
the case - it is what it is, this person is in office and
has said all that. Good luck balancing that.


I need a hot dog. PCB layout is hungry work.


I ate more than I had to already - which did not help
soldering a 78l033 and a 78l12 - both of them, to-92 - the wrong way
around. I replaced the 78l033 after noticing it was shorted
input to output and put it back again the wrong way around, that
looking at a photo of the first board (just two of them, really
simple buffers and a stepdown on it). (The first board has worked for
over a year now, mostly at the customers).
So beware, eating can be counterproductive . I'll make tea now
and hopefully solder them the correct way around.....


Well, you know what boys do when their wife is away: eat meat over the
sink.

Actually, The Brat and I are working on a PCB layout together this
weekend, in shifts. I'm doing the basic placement and routing of
example channels, and she can replicate them. She really likes routing
BGAs and doing power pours, so I'll let her do that too.

This board is embarassing; it will be about half whitespace when it's
done. There's almost no way to make a low density board look good.

Why not add some silkscreen or copper artwork? If you have real estate
that won't be affected by any resonant bits if done in copper. Or is
this a production product?

This is a design refresh of a laser controller that we did in 2002. It
had an ancient FPGA and a 68K CPU.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0txd32wwh9lbsbd/DSC06492.JPG?raw=1

The new design is even simpler than the old one. Analog precision is
being replaced by more bits and polynomials.

I'm guessing that 10 or 15% of the ICs made in the world have their
exposures controlled by this box.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 27/07/19 20:52, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 7/27/19 1:23 PM, Tauno Voipio wrote:
On 27.7.19 15:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff


Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.

duh

Including guineas, pounds, shillings and pence?


Making the currency more complicated is a good way of reducing impulse buying.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who as a boy spent the month of July 1971 with his late Mum in the UK, and
collected all the change she couldn't figure out.)

Or impulse selling.

I remember pricing up my train set in 1971, choosing
to use the newfangled currency, and being delighted
at how easy it was.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 27/07/19 19:55, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:23:57 +0300, Tauno Voipio wrote:

Including guineas, pounds, shillings and pence?

Served us perfectly well for centuries. I for one would love to see them
re-introduced. In fact I might even move back if that happened.

Interesting.

So you make great pronouncements about what it is like
to live here, without actually living here.

That explains a lot.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:26:33 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 7/27/19 5:32 PM, John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/07/27 1:21 p.m., John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 22:54:35 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 22:38, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 21:43:51 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 21:27, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:49:25 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 20:26, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:22:11 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 18:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:45:18 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Absolutely unacceptable,
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh-oh! I think that's one of his banned words you just used
there, Jan!

But seriously, this is the Guardian, which is hell-bent on
getting Brexit
reversed at all costs. Guardian=BBC=CNN=MSNBC; they're all in
the same
bracket when it comes to fake news.

Even worse than fake news: predictable news.



Predictable using hindsight, yeah. Demonstrate how you
predicted this
piece of news, LOL.0603 or


"Predictable news" is like "zero-ohm resistor."


0603 or 0204? They carry them all over the place you know .

I watched - somewhat by chance - "The Loudest Voice", the series
is yet to complete. No idea how fact based it is - never watched
FOX news - but if marginally true then I can see at least part of
what strengthened the division in the US. Are they non-zero-ohm in
your opinion?

I can't say. I never watch television.

But how did you know about the other news sources you branded as
"worse than fake, predictable"?

Well, I do check the web and get two print newspapers.

What's crazy is that you show me an outrageously unbalanced "news"
article, I can pretty well assign it to a list of likely sources. The
"reporting" is that prejudiced and predictable.

Journalism, honest research and reporting of findings, is mostly dead.

I need a hot dog. PCB layout is hungry work.





Well fox news do have a website as well you know .
I also get the news on the web, what else. Mostly the BBC.
While eating in front of the tv sometimes I watch sky news.

How do you "balance" news like that? I mean it is as moronic
as it gets, unless proven false - which does not seem to be
the case - it is what it is, this person is in office and
has said all that. Good luck balancing that.


I need a hot dog. PCB layout is hungry work.


I ate more than I had to already - which did not help
soldering a 78l033 and a 78l12 - both of them, to-92 - the wrong way
around. I replaced the 78l033 after noticing it was shorted
input to output and put it back again the wrong way around, that
looking at a photo of the first board (just two of them, really
simple buffers and a stepdown on it). (The first board has worked for
over a year now, mostly at the customers).
So beware, eating can be counterproductive . I'll make tea now
and hopefully solder them the correct way around.....


Well, you know what boys do when their wife is away: eat meat over the
sink.

Actually, The Brat and I are working on a PCB layout together this
weekend, in shifts. I'm doing the basic placement and routing of
example channels, and she can replicate them. She really likes routing
BGAs and doing power pours, so I'll let her do that too.

This board is embarassing; it will be about half whitespace when it's
done. There's almost no way to make a low density board look good.

Why not add some silkscreen or copper artwork? If you have real estate
that won't be affected by any resonant bits if done in copper. Or is
this a production product?


https://www.dropbox.com/s/xqod5khgpoa9lzn/TEM_Plus_A7.jpg?raw=1

We pass notes to one another in red, on layer 10.


Sounds like fun.

John

We've standardized on ENIG boards with white silk on blue mask, except
that our logo and board title are in the mask layer, so they come out in
gold. Bling bling!

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

We do yellow silk on blue mask. ENIG boards. My latest innovation is
to not solder mask the vias.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 27/07/19 23:29, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 7/27/19 4:00 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 15:39:15 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 7/27/19 12:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 27/07/19 17:19, bitrex wrote:
On 7/27/19 11:04 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 27/07/19 15:38, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-07-27 05:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff



Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.


Also, a disdain for mint sauce can result in the revocation of
British citizenship and if a guy doesn't like Extra Special Bitter
that shows lack of pluck so he gets his man card pulled.

For either of those offenses, that penalty would be justified

As for the rest, <exits left, screaming uncontrollably


If you must use mint on lamb you could do this:

https://www.familycircle.com/recipe/lamb-with-mint-crema-tacos/

That's a 404 here, which illustrates good judgement somewhere.


I'd prefer a firey habanero pepper sauce but cilantro and mint makes a
pretty good team

I'm not overfond of capsaicin, but I like it in small amounts.
But it would totally dominate the flavour of good well-hung lamb.

OTOH, mint is a pleasing aroma, and the vinegar cuts
through the fattiness of the best lamb.


Exactly.  Round here French mint grows wild, so we pick a bunch and put
it into the food processor with rice vinegar, a bit of water, and a tiny
tiny bit of sugar.

Just the thing for roast lamb or lamb chops.  (I prefer chops, because
various-people-who-shall-not-be-named think it's a good idea to put
cloves of garlic in roast lamb.  Blech.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I said to Mo, "Am I using too much garlic?"

Her response was "Excuse me, but I don't understand those words."

We are celebrating now, because the fresh garlic crop, huge pungent
bulbs, have arrived.

There are lots of recipes where MAGA\h\h\h\h mega garlic is just right. Roast
lamb is not one of them.

Pro tip: Nowadays New Zealand lamb is mostly mutton--way too strong tasting, and
tough as nails.  Get the domestic stuff.

I tend to leave meat in the fridge /well/ past its
"sell by" date. If the best meat is hung for 30 days,
I might as well try to emulate what the butchers ought
to have done.

And then there's the leg of pork hanging in my cellar
since before Christmas. Ought to start eating that soon.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 27/07/19 20:39, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 7/27/19 12:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 27/07/19 17:19, bitrex wrote:
On 7/27/19 11:04 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 27/07/19 15:38, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-07-27 05:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff


Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.


Also, a disdain for mint sauce can result in the revocation of British
citizenship and if a guy doesn't like Extra Special Bitter that shows lack
of pluck so he gets his man card pulled.

For either of those offenses, that penalty would be justified

As for the rest, <exits left, screaming uncontrollably


If you must use mint on lamb you could do this:

https://www.familycircle.com/recipe/lamb-with-mint-crema-tacos/

That's a 404 here, which illustrates good judgement somewhere.


I'd prefer a firey habanero pepper sauce but cilantro and mint makes a pretty
good team

I'm not overfond of capsaicin, but I like it in small amounts.
But it would totally dominate the flavour of good well-hung lamb.

OTOH, mint is a pleasing aroma, and the vinegar cuts
through the fattiness of the best lamb.


Exactly.  Round here French mint grows wild, so we pick a bunch and put it into
the food processor with rice vinegar, a bit of water, and a tiny tiny bit of sugar.

Yes, just so.

Except my father taught me to hand-chop the mint,
and I still do that out of habit.

Worryingly, I suppose that's like the "leg of lamb"
fable I used to teach my daughter not to accept
things without understanding...

"Mummy, why do you cut off the end of the leg of lamb
before roasting it?"

"Because that's what your granny always did".

"Granny, why did you cut off the end of the leg of lamb
before roasting it?"

Pause for thought.

"Because the oven was too small for it to fit in
otherwise".

But I'll also correctly claim that a leafy texture
and partly crushing the leaves is A Good Thing.

Just the thing for roast lamb or lamb chops.  (I prefer chops, because
various-people-who-shall-not-be-named think it's a good idea to put cloves of
garlic in roast lamb.  Blech.)

I like garlic, but wouldn't put it a simple roast.

 

Simon and I are planning to come to Photonics West in Feb with a bunch of potential OEM products to push, so that ought to work ought just right.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 16:53:28 -0700 (PDT), pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:

Simon and I are planning to come to Photonics West in Feb with a bunch of potential OEM products to push, so that ought to work ought just right.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Will you have a booth?


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Phil Allison]

Jan Panteltje Wog Idiot twrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?

** Idiotic false news.

Fact is, in everyday matters the UK never left imperial units.

Miles, yards, feet, pounds, ounces, gallons and pints are in regular use as is of course their currency - UK pound.

FYI;

Australia adopted dollars and cents along with metric measures for damn near everything decades ago.



.... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

John Larkin Massive Autistic Prick wrote:

I can't say. I never watch television.

** That says it all really.

Many autistics cannot enjoy watching TV or films cos nearly all of it passes right over their pointed little heads.

Near total lack of insight, empathy and an ability to quickly form intelligent "theories of thought" are the reasons.

Horrible people.


..... Phil



..... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

John Larkin is an Autistic Psychopath wrote:

John Larkin Massive Autistic Prick wrote:


I can't say. I never watch television.



** That says it all really.

Many autistics cannot enjoy watching TV or films cos nearly all of it passes right over their pointed little heads.


No, my problem with TV is that the content is usually trash and
especially the data rate, the effective bandwidth, is way too low. I
read about 400 wpm and nobody talks that fast.

** What absolute lunacy.

And when I'm reading, I can scan a paragraph, or a chapter, and
usually determine if it has worthwhile content, and skip ahead to
something more interesting. I can't very well do that with a TV show.
It just drones along. Commercials don't help any. Even PBS here now
has endless ads.

** How does this narcissistic prick hold a conversation with anyone who is not autistic ??

The answer is *very badly* and with nil comprehension.

I'm a tad austic in that I don't appreciate most art or poetry or
music

** That is not a little bit, that is MASSIVE autism.

Near total lack of insight, empathy and an ability to quickly
form intelligent "theories of thought" are the reasons.

Electronic design, especially design that interfaces with physics and
optics and mechanical systems, requires some wide-ranging thinking.

** Larkin simply has no idea what I am alluding to.

He only rationalises and bullshits to hide his disability from himself.

Totally evil person.



...... Phil

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff

Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)

2pi = 6 is usually close enough.

It's a game in our place to do math in our heads, standing at the
whiteboard.

Does that RC time constant affect the loop? Think for three or four
seconds and decide.

Newbies and visitors are impressed.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics