OT: UK to move back to imperial units?

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:22:11 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 18:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:45:18 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Absolutely unacceptable,
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh-oh! I think that's one of his banned words you just used there, Jan! :)

But seriously, this is the Guardian, which is hell-bent on getting Brexit
reversed at all costs. Guardian=BBC=CNN=MSNBC; they're all in the same
bracket when it comes to fake news.

Even worse than fake news: predictable news.



Predictable using hindsight, yeah. Demonstrate how you predicted this
piece of news, LOL.

"Predictable news" is like "zero-ohm resistor."



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On 27.7.19 15:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:
UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff

Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.

duh

Including guineas, pounds, shillings and pence?

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Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-
jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff

Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.

I watched the Wimbledon (tennis) final. Was pleasantly surprised to see
the service speed in miles per hour. I wouldn't worry about such things,
computers very easily do the translation. Language is another subject.
But someday we will also be able to communicate through computers.
Currently, at least you can learn some foreign grammar when doing
translations.
 
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:49:25 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 20:26, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:22:11 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 18:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:45:18 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Absolutely unacceptable,
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh-oh! I think that's one of his banned words you just used there, Jan! :)

But seriously, this is the Guardian, which is hell-bent on getting Brexit
reversed at all costs. Guardian=BBC=CNN=MSNBC; they're all in the same
bracket when it comes to fake news.

Even worse than fake news: predictable news.



Predictable using hindsight, yeah. Demonstrate how you predicted this
piece of news, LOL.0603 or


"Predictable news" is like "zero-ohm resistor."


0603 or 0204? They carry them all over the place you know :).

I watched - somewhat by chance - "The Loudest Voice", the series
is yet to complete. No idea how fact based it is - never watched
FOX news - but if marginally true then I can see at least part of
what strengthened the division in the US. Are they non-zero-ohm in
your opinion?

I can't say. I never watch television.

When it comes to local politicians I have long since stopped
listening to them, they are negative R resistors, meaning I know
what they will say long before they have even thought of it.
I hate to say but with the US president as loud as this one is
I am getting there as well all the way from the other side of
the globe...

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On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 08:09:46 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

> Even worse than fake news: predictable news.

"Predictably fake news" even.



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On 7/27/2019 20:26, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:22:11 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 18:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:45:18 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Absolutely unacceptable,
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh-oh! I think that's one of his banned words you just used there, Jan! :)

But seriously, this is the Guardian, which is hell-bent on getting Brexit
reversed at all costs. Guardian=BBC=CNN=MSNBC; they're all in the same
bracket when it comes to fake news.

Even worse than fake news: predictable news.



Predictable using hindsight, yeah. Demonstrate how you predicted this
piece of news, LOL.0603 or


"Predictable news" is like "zero-ohm resistor."

0603 or 0204? They carry them all over the place you know :).

I watched - somewhat by chance - "The Loudest Voice", the series
is yet to complete. No idea how fact based it is - never watched
FOX news - but if marginally true then I can see at least part of
what strengthened the division in the US. Are they non-zero-ohm in
your opinion?

When it comes to local politicians I have long since stopped
listening to them, they are negative R resistors, meaning I know
what they will say long before they have even thought of it.
I hate to say but with the US president as loud as this one is
I am getting there as well all the way from the other side of
the globe...
 
On 7/27/2019 21:27, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:49:25 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 20:26, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:22:11 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 18:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:45:18 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Absolutely unacceptable,
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh-oh! I think that's one of his banned words you just used there, Jan! :)

But seriously, this is the Guardian, which is hell-bent on getting Brexit
reversed at all costs. Guardian=BBC=CNN=MSNBC; they're all in the same
bracket when it comes to fake news.

Even worse than fake news: predictable news.



Predictable using hindsight, yeah. Demonstrate how you predicted this
piece of news, LOL.0603 or


"Predictable news" is like "zero-ohm resistor."


0603 or 0204? They carry them all over the place you know :).

I watched - somewhat by chance - "The Loudest Voice", the series
is yet to complete. No idea how fact based it is - never watched
FOX news - but if marginally true then I can see at least part of
what strengthened the division in the US. Are they non-zero-ohm in
your opinion?

I can't say. I never watch television.

But how did you know about the other news sources you branded as
"worse than fake, predictable"?
 
On 7/27/19 12:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 27/07/19 17:19, bitrex wrote:
On 7/27/19 11:04 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 27/07/19 15:38, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-07-27 05:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff


Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.


Also, a disdain for mint sauce can result in the revocation of
British citizenship and if a guy doesn't like Extra Special Bitter
that shows lack of pluck so he gets his man card pulled.

For either of those offenses, that penalty would be justified :)

As for the rest, <exits left, screaming uncontrollably


If you must use mint on lamb you could do this:

https://www.familycircle.com/recipe/lamb-with-mint-crema-tacos/

That's a 404 here, which illustrates good judgement somewhere.


I'd prefer a firey habanero pepper sauce but cilantro and mint makes a
pretty good team

I'm not overfond of capsaicin, but I like it in small amounts.
But it would totally dominate the flavour of good well-hung lamb.

OTOH, mint is a pleasing aroma, and the vinegar cuts
through the fattiness of the best lamb.

Exactly. Round here French mint grows wild, so we pick a bunch and put
it into the food processor with rice vinegar, a bit of water, and a tiny
tiny bit of sugar.

Just the thing for roast lamb or lamb chops. (I prefer chops, because
various-people-who-shall-not-be-named think it's a good idea to put
cloves of garlic in roast lamb. Blech.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 21:43:51 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 21:27, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:49:25 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 20:26, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:22:11 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 18:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:45:18 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Absolutely unacceptable,
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh-oh! I think that's one of his banned words you just used there, Jan! :)

But seriously, this is the Guardian, which is hell-bent on getting Brexit
reversed at all costs. Guardian=BBC=CNN=MSNBC; they're all in the same
bracket when it comes to fake news.

Even worse than fake news: predictable news.



Predictable using hindsight, yeah. Demonstrate how you predicted this
piece of news, LOL.0603 or


"Predictable news" is like "zero-ohm resistor."


0603 or 0204? They carry them all over the place you know :).

I watched - somewhat by chance - "The Loudest Voice", the series
is yet to complete. No idea how fact based it is - never watched
FOX news - but if marginally true then I can see at least part of
what strengthened the division in the US. Are they non-zero-ohm in
your opinion?

I can't say. I never watch television.

But how did you know about the other news sources you branded as
"worse than fake, predictable"?

Well, I do check the web and get two print newspapers.

What's crazy is that you show me an outrageously unbalanced "news"
article, I can pretty well assign it to a list of likely sources. The
"reporting" is that prejudiced and predictable.

Journalism, honest research and reporting of findings, is mostly dead.

I need a hot dog. PCB layout is hungry work.




--

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lunatic fringe electronics
 
On a sunny day (Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:45:18 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Cursitor
Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote in <qhhh0u$b6h$2@dont-email.me>:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Absolutely unacceptable,
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh-oh! I think that's one of his banned words you just used there, Jan! :)

Correct, I tried to violate all of those in that posting :)


But seriously, this is the Guardian, which is hell-bent on getting Brexit
reversed at all costs. Guardian=BBC=CNN=MSNBC; they're all in the same
bracket when it comes to fake news. So you can take this article with a
pinch of salt; it's just an unfunny joke.

Not so sure it was here in the news too.
 
On a sunny day (Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:38:01 -0000 (UTC)) it happened John Doe
<always.look@message.header> wrote in <qhi5m9$1gh$1@dont-email.me>:

Jan Panteltje <pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-
jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff

Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.

I watched the Wimbledon (tennis) final. Was pleasantly surprised to see
the service speed in miles per hour.

I hardly watch TV, do record some movies every now and then, sports?
I was working in the garden today, we have tropic temperatures here.
like this
2019 07 27 04:44 t 19.6 \ rh 67.0 / t_min 16.9 at 01:56 t_max 40.5 at 17:44 rh_min LL at 12:38 rh_max 67.0 at 04:42
Stopped for a wile to drink a lot of fruit juice..
I do not see the point of looking for hours at somebody bouncing a ball...
Was never into sports, that it is good for your health is bull,
many famous footballers died young.
Better sit behind the PC :) OK I do some biking too.


I wouldn't worry about such things,
computers very easily do the translation.

I run Linux and have 'the units' program:
~ # units
1948 units, 71 prefixes, 28 functions

You have: 10 mph
You want: kmh
conformability error
4.4704 m / s
1 kg m^2 / A^2 s^2
You have: 10 m/h
You want: km/h
* 0.01
/ 100
You have: 10 miles/hour
You want: km/hour
* 16.09344
/ 0.062137119
With some trying OK



>Language is another subject.

Yes the crazy translation to Dutch I see at aliexpress shows a lot needs to be done.
Same for Chinglish manuals for things I bought on ebay.


>But someday we will also be able to communicate through computers.

We are already commie-nukating through computers.



Currently, at least you can learn some foreign grammar when doing
translations.

Here in the Netherlands in kindergarten they started with Dutch and French in my time.
Starting young is good.
In high school German, English and French again.

Later I studied some Portuguese, started on Chinese but stopped, lost interest.
Could pick up anytime if I think it is needed

Best way to learn a language is go there, and think in that language,
There is a common thing in all those languages, sometimes I remember something I read but have no idea what language I did read it it anymore.

Things like satellite, at least here in Europe, give you thousands of channels
(no kidding the memory of my Chinese cheap sat box was full after just auto-scanning 2 sats,
but there are maybe 40 or more I can receive).
But watching those channels or listening (radio too) can help you learn the languages.
But learning basic grammar and writing is always a must and takes time.

I think maybe AI but then there would be different trained AI translators, and some would then have their own
ideas, so be like a person, and there you go.
And freaking networks governments recording and listening to everything in your house
in ANY language,.
What a world.

I could write a bot and you would find it maybe hard to know you talk to a computer
There is the old 'Eliza' or something (have it somewhere) program that would keep you busy:_)
If you fell for it, OTOH some people are like that I think.

A simple example, for a bit that could be written in a few thousand lines, is one that plays Agent Orange, the Precedent.
Nobody would know the difference,.
In fact maybe he has a chip controlled by NethanYahoo.
 
On 7/27/2019 21:55, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:23:57 +0300, Tauno Voipio wrote:

Including guineas, pounds, shillings and pence?

Served us perfectly well for centuries. I for one would love to see them
re-introduced. In fact I might even move back if that happened.

And you will found the "back into the cavesit" party, yeah.
 
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:23:57 +0300, Tauno Voipio wrote:

> Including guineas, pounds, shillings and pence?

Served us perfectly well for centuries. I for one would love to see them
re-introduced. In fact I might even move back if that happened.



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On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:30:49 +0300, upsidedown wrote:

> This would also solve the N.I. border issues.

There are no "N.I border issues" - this is a contrivance thrown up by the
Remain brigade to block Brexit. They want it to prove an insurmountable
obstacle which is nonsense - but it's the best they could think of. :-D



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On 7/27/19 1:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 07:38:01 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com
wrote:

On 2019-07-27 05:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff

Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.


Also, a disdain for mint sauce can result in the revocation of British
citizenship and if a guy doesn't like Extra Special Bitter that shows
lack of pluck so he gets his man card pulled.

:)

The official test of Real American Manhood is to down a pint of the
most intense, bitter, nasty, hop-overloaded IPA available. Extra
points if it's sour too, or accompanied by a jalapeno-packed,
hot-sauce-soaked breakfast burrito.

Lumbersexual brogrammers all agree on that.

Pure sour grapes (or maybe hops). I don't drink a lot of beer on
account of the carbs, but my preference is firmly in the 120 minute IPA
direction.

Re: breakfast burritos--the champ in my experience is from the Flying
Star in north Albuquerque. The surprise ingredient is canned pinto
beans, complete with the (somewhat gelatinous) fluid.

Amazing.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
 
On 7/27/19 1:23 PM, Tauno Voipio wrote:
On 27.7.19 15:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff


Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.

duh

Including guineas, pounds, shillings and pence?

Making the currency more complicated is a good way of reducing impulse
buying. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

(Who as a boy spent the month of July 1971 with his late Mum in the UK,
and collected all the change she couldn't figure out.)
 
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 15:44:25 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 7/27/19 1:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 07:38:01 -0700, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com
wrote:

On 2019-07-27 05:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff

Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.


Also, a disdain for mint sauce can result in the revocation of British
citizenship and if a guy doesn't like Extra Special Bitter that shows
lack of pluck so he gets his man card pulled.

:)

The official test of Real American Manhood is to down a pint of the
most intense, bitter, nasty, hop-overloaded IPA available. Extra
points if it's sour too, or accompanied by a jalapeno-packed,
hot-sauce-soaked breakfast burrito.

Lumbersexual brogrammers all agree on that.



Pure sour grapes (or maybe hops). I don't drink a lot of beer on
account of the carbs, but my preference is firmly in the 120 minute IPA
direction.

Re: breakfast burritos--the champ in my experience is from the Flying
Star in north Albuquerque. The surprise ingredient is canned pinto
beans, complete with the (somewhat gelatinous) fluid.

Amazing.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Ok, we can agree on that: amazing.


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lunatic fringe electronics
 
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 15:39:15 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 7/27/19 12:35 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 27/07/19 17:19, bitrex wrote:
On 7/27/19 11:04 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 27/07/19 15:38, Joerg wrote:
On 2019-07-27 05:36, Jan Panteltje wrote:

UK to move back to imperial units?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/26/the-comma-touch-jacob-rees-mogg-sends-language-rules-to-staff


Now all we need is Pi = 3 (or 4)
How very sad when clueless politicians dictate science,
hope UK leaves EU today.

Absolutely unacceptable, and shows the ongoing chaos,
got to be a sign of an IQ equal to apes.
Ask yourself what is the future for UK now,
this sort of dictatorship seems unacceptable to any sane person,
those lot are hopefully still a majority in the UK.
I am not pleased to learn about this folly.


Also, a disdain for mint sauce can result in the revocation of
British citizenship and if a guy doesn't like Extra Special Bitter
that shows lack of pluck so he gets his man card pulled.

For either of those offenses, that penalty would be justified :)

As for the rest, <exits left, screaming uncontrollably


If you must use mint on lamb you could do this:

https://www.familycircle.com/recipe/lamb-with-mint-crema-tacos/

That's a 404 here, which illustrates good judgement somewhere.


I'd prefer a firey habanero pepper sauce but cilantro and mint makes a
pretty good team

I'm not overfond of capsaicin, but I like it in small amounts.
But it would totally dominate the flavour of good well-hung lamb.

OTOH, mint is a pleasing aroma, and the vinegar cuts
through the fattiness of the best lamb.


Exactly. Round here French mint grows wild, so we pick a bunch and put
it into the food processor with rice vinegar, a bit of water, and a tiny
tiny bit of sugar.

Just the thing for roast lamb or lamb chops. (I prefer chops, because
various-people-who-shall-not-be-named think it's a good idea to put
cloves of garlic in roast lamb. Blech.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I said to Mo, "Am I using too much garlic?"

Her response was "Excuse me, but I don't understand those words."

We are celebrating now, because the fresh garlic crop, huge pungent
bulbs, have arrived.


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lunatic fringe electronics
 
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 22:54:35 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 22:38, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 21:43:51 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 21:27, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:49:25 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 20:26, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:22:11 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 18:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:45:18 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Absolutely unacceptable,
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh-oh! I think that's one of his banned words you just used there, Jan! :)

But seriously, this is the Guardian, which is hell-bent on getting Brexit
reversed at all costs. Guardian=BBC=CNN=MSNBC; they're all in the same
bracket when it comes to fake news.

Even worse than fake news: predictable news.



Predictable using hindsight, yeah. Demonstrate how you predicted this
piece of news, LOL.0603 or


"Predictable news" is like "zero-ohm resistor."


0603 or 0204? They carry them all over the place you know :).

I watched - somewhat by chance - "The Loudest Voice", the series
is yet to complete. No idea how fact based it is - never watched
FOX news - but if marginally true then I can see at least part of
what strengthened the division in the US. Are they non-zero-ohm in
your opinion?

I can't say. I never watch television.

But how did you know about the other news sources you branded as
"worse than fake, predictable"?

Well, I do check the web and get two print newspapers.

What's crazy is that you show me an outrageously unbalanced "news"
article, I can pretty well assign it to a list of likely sources. The
"reporting" is that prejudiced and predictable.

Journalism, honest research and reporting of findings, is mostly dead.

I need a hot dog. PCB layout is hungry work.





Well fox news do have a website as well you know :).
I also get the news on the web, what else. Mostly the BBC.
While eating in front of the tv sometimes I watch sky news.

How do you "balance" news like that? I mean it is as moronic
as it gets, unless proven false - which does not seem to be
the case - it is what it is, this person is in office and
has said all that. Good luck balancing that.


I need a hot dog. PCB layout is hungry work.


I ate more than I had to already - which did not help
soldering a 78l033 and a 78l12 - both of them, to-92 - the wrong way
around. I replaced the 78l033 after noticing it was shorted
input to output and put it back again the wrong way around, that
looking at a photo of the first board (just two of them, really
simple buffers and a stepdown on it). (The first board has worked for
over a year now, mostly at the customers).
So beware, eating can be counterproductive :). I'll make tea now
and hopefully solder them the correct way around.....

Well, you know what boys do when their wife is away: eat meat over the
sink.

Actually, The Brat and I are working on a PCB layout together this
weekend, in shifts. I'm doing the basic placement and routing of
example channels, and she can replicate them. She really likes routing
BGAs and doing power pours, so I'll let her do that too.

This board is embarassing; it will be about half whitespace when it's
done. There's almost no way to make a low density board look good.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xqod5khgpoa9lzn/TEM_Plus_A7.jpg?raw=1

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lunatic fringe electronics
 
On 7/27/2019 22:38, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 21:43:51 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 21:27, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 20:49:25 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 20:26, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 18:22:11 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com
wrote:

On 7/27/2019 18:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:45:18 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Jul 2019 12:36:27 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Absolutely unacceptable,
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh-oh! I think that's one of his banned words you just used there, Jan! :)

But seriously, this is the Guardian, which is hell-bent on getting Brexit
reversed at all costs. Guardian=BBC=CNN=MSNBC; they're all in the same
bracket when it comes to fake news.

Even worse than fake news: predictable news.



Predictable using hindsight, yeah. Demonstrate how you predicted this
piece of news, LOL.0603 or


"Predictable news" is like "zero-ohm resistor."


0603 or 0204? They carry them all over the place you know :).

I watched - somewhat by chance - "The Loudest Voice", the series
is yet to complete. No idea how fact based it is - never watched
FOX news - but if marginally true then I can see at least part of
what strengthened the division in the US. Are they non-zero-ohm in
your opinion?

I can't say. I never watch television.

But how did you know about the other news sources you branded as
"worse than fake, predictable"?

Well, I do check the web and get two print newspapers.

What's crazy is that you show me an outrageously unbalanced "news"
article, I can pretty well assign it to a list of likely sources. The
"reporting" is that prejudiced and predictable.

Journalism, honest research and reporting of findings, is mostly dead.

I need a hot dog. PCB layout is hungry work.

Well fox news do have a website as well you know :).
I also get the news on the web, what else. Mostly the BBC.
While eating in front of the tv sometimes I watch sky news.

How do you "balance" news like that? I mean it is as moronic
as it gets, unless proven false - which does not seem to be
the case - it is what it is, this person is in office and
has said all that. Good luck balancing that.

I need a hot dog. PCB layout is hungry work.

I ate more than I had to already - which did not help
soldering a 78l033 and a 78l12 - both of them, to-92 - the wrong way
around. I replaced the 78l033 after noticing it was shorted
input to output and put it back again the wrong way around, that
looking at a photo of the first board (just two of them, really
simple buffers and a stepdown on it). (The first board has worked for
over a year now, mostly at the customers).
So beware, eating can be counterproductive :). I'll make tea now
and hopefully solder them the correct way around.....
 

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