OT: Bush Thugs Rough Up Grieving Mother of KIA

[Rolavine]

From: John Larkin

On Friday 24 September 2004 03:27 pm, John Larkin did deign to grace us with
the following:

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:28:16 GMT, Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:


Can anybody in the country finish this sentence:

The Goal of the American Mission in Iraq is to:

Establish a Turkish-like secular democracy.

Has anybody asked the folks in Iraq if that's what they want?


The only way to ask is to have an election.

Anyone know where I can find a ballot for the Iraqi election on the web, I've

looked and can't. The election is scheduled for Dec or Jan, where is the
ballot?

Rocky

 

[Rolavine]

At least way back then they protected their rears by having a Gulf of Tonkin
incident. These days Bush has no worries at all about violating the joint
resolution and having a major war under the absurdly vague Commander and Chief
Powers. This is the kind of change in actions one sees when leadership puts
itself aboveboth the constitution and the law.

Rocky

 

[Rolavine]

Say what percentage of the W Ketchup money is being used for the Lyndie England
Defense fund?

Rocky

 

[John Larkin]

On 27 Sep 2004 20:49:31 GMT, rolavine@aol.com (Rolavine) wrote:

From: John Larkin

I don't have a side. I do meet real people, as opposed to forming my
opinions from the media.

Larkin your supporting Bush, you do it in every post you make, stop pretending!

Rocky

I've sent him no money, and I will not vote for him. I do find the
situation interesting and sometimes amusing, but it's not really very
important who wins this election.

I do think Kerry is a fathead and an unprincipled, annoying gigolo and
opportunist. And I think Bush has, perhaps, too much principle. Just
my opinions. If you want to get all worked up, enjoy!

John

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Clarence <no@No.com> wrote (in
<cI_5d.20471$QJ3.2996@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com&gt about 'Battery level
tester.', on Mon, 27 Sep 2004:

The Volt meter must be connected directly to the battery terminals to be
a reasonable indication of charge.

Yes, IF that was what was *needed*, as opposed to *wanted*. The OP
*needs* to check that the battery isn't soon going to not be able to
work his telescope and stuff, and the way to do that is to monitor the
voltage at each load. At each load, because I strongly suspect he has
significant voltage drops in his cables.

If, for example, the telescope doesn't work below 10 V, a red light that
comes on when the voltage at the telescope is 10.3 V would do what the
OP needs, whether that 10.3 V is coming from a new 200 Ah battery or a
small VLA that's five years old.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
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[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rolavine <rolavine@aol.com> wrote
(in <20040927165617.03437.00000734@mb-m27.aol.com&gt about '[OT]: The
not-so-democratic Democrats', on Mon, 27 Sep 2004:

From: John Woodgate

It seems to be accepted that most of the terrorists are not Iraquis.

Really, where?

Independent academic Iraq experts in the British media.


--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Mac]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:18:55 +0200, Leroy Tanner wrote:

"Allan Herriman" <allan.herriman.hates.spam@ctam.com.au.invalid> :
This would be so much easier if you told us what you really want to
do.

Thanks for the support so far. I'll try to be more precisely and focus on
the decisive factors:

I have got 4 FPGAs (Virtex 2 Pro) available on a printed circuit board. The
Virtex 2 Pro devices offer up to 20 full-duplex 3.125Gbit/s transceivers
(Multi Gigabit Transceivers = MGTs). Because I have a total of - let's say -
20 MGTs and my application arranges for about 16 MGTs for the output data
(let's assume that is a fixed condition), there are just 4 MGTs left for me
to use for the incoming data. So I have a total of 10 Gbit/s (4*2,5 Gbit/s)
on each FPGA and therefore must handle the incoming 30 Gbit/s by parallel
operation of at least 3 FPGAs, better say 4 FPGAs. By the way the incoming
data is received through an Infiniband 12x-Interface, i.e.12 x 1-channel
Infiniband @ 2,5 Gbit/s via channelbonding (=30 Gbit/s). I hope that might
help you in understanding the problem.

Regards, Leroy

The most important thing, which you totally omitted until this post, is
what does the data bus actually look like?

You mention infiniband (which I'm not too familiar with), but you don't
say whether you have an infiniband transceiver (receiver?) or whether you
actually have to design some kind of infiniband protocol engine into the
FPGA.

You really need to describe your problem in much more detail. If you are
interfacing to some kind of infiniband chip, you should post the part
number so people who want to help you can get some idea of what the chip
spits out.

If you need to accommodate raw infiniband, then some infiniband expert
will have to answer.

In principal, you can synchronize two FPGA's simply by providing them with
synchronized clocks. Doing this right at high speed may be a challenge.

--Mac

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Michael Robbins
<michael.robbins@us.cibc.com> wrote (in <c6c65b14.0409240822.4bc3f756@po
sting.google.com&gt about 'Get me started: Alternator, ballast resistor,
electromech...', on Fri, 24 Sep 2004:

I'm speaking from ignorance here, but I think you may be mistaken or my
description is off or I misunderstand you.

We won't hold ignorance against you. Arrogance is what we don't like.

I called Nautilus, the makers of StairMaster, and they confirmed that
the Load Resistor between the B+ and Ground terminals varies with
current. After some cajoling, they said that the console regulates the
current across the Field terminal which alters the resistance across the
Load Resistor.

They need to insert the word 'effective' before 'resistance'. And it's a
clunky explanation anyway, well worthy of a sales droid.

What happens is this. The load resistor has a fixed, constant value of R
ohms. Changing the field current changes the *voltage* produced by the
alternator, and hence the *power* absorbed by the load resistor (V^2/R).

So I'm clear, the alternator has 4 terminals: B+, Ground, Field and
Tach. A load resistor is put across B+ and Ground, a diode is put
across Field and Ground, and Field is attached to the console. Tach is
also attached to the console.

Can someone please confirm that I'm making sense?

Not entirely. What do you mean by 'attached'?

I think that if I replace the console with a circuit that will provide a
variable current, using Tach as feedback, then I can do away with the
console.

Can someone give me some clues regarding this?

If you mean 'variable field current', then the answer is yes, but it's
not a trivial task.

P.S. It seems a bit confusing that the Stairmaster manual calls the
resistor a "Load Resistor," since that has a very different meaning from
a "Ballast Resistor." Maybe I misunderstand, or the manual is imprecise
or maybe it's misdirection. The McGraw-Hill Encyclopedia of Science &
Technology defines a Ballast Resistor this way:

A resistor that has the property of increasing in resistance as
current flowing through it increases, and decreasing in resistance
as
current decreases. Therefore the ballast resistor tends to maintain
a
constant current flowing through it, despite variations in applied
voltage or changes in the rest of the circuit. The ballast resistor
acts as a variable load on the system; therefore it differs from load
resistors, which have a constant resistance.

Yes, well, it's utter rubbish. SOME ballast resistors (such as
'barretters') do that, but it's a generic term that covers fixed
resistors as well.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

In <KpfHMkNzVIWBFwtD@jmwa.demon.co.uk>, on 09/27/04 at 10:26 PM,
John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> said:

Mormons are Christians

Sort of. VERY 'sort of'.

No. They are Christians exactly, not sort of.

I wonder if the Pope thinks so. But I don't want to tread on anyone's
beliefs.

You already have tread on people's beliefs. You told the whole group that
Mormons are not Christians. You ought to be able to back that up, if you
really believe it. Ducking is okay, but remember that you are the one who
passed the judgement against 11 million people, so you should be able to back
it up, or just admit that you were wrong.

Ask the Pope?

John

 

[John Fields]

On 27 Sep 2004 15:00:58 -0700, soar2morrow@yahoo.com (Tom Seim) wrote:

Won't anyone give me a straight answer on how the hell to build an Ammeter

Here:

http://www.linear.com/pdf/LTC4150_0504_Mag.pdf

---
Unfortunately, Here sez:

"The LTC4150 offers a simple and compact solution for high side
coulomb counting/battery gas gauging for battery voltages up to
8.5V(2-cell Li-Ion or 6-cell NiCd or NiMH batteries)."

Lead acids are a whole different animal.

--
John Fields

 

[ChrisGibboGibson]

soar2morrow@yahoo.com (Tom Seim) wrote:

Won't anyone give me a straight answer on how the hell to build an
Ammeter

Here:

http://www.linear.com/pdf/LTC4150_0504_Mag.pdf

You're welcome.

The 4510 is only good to 8.5 volts and as the sense resistor is in the positive
battery lead it's not such a simple job to place it elsewhere. Not impossible,
but probably so for OP.

Anyway I think JW is right.

Gibbo

 

[George Macdonald]

On 26 Sep 2004 09:18:55 -0700, q_q_anonymous@yahoo.co.uk (Anon) wrote:

"R. Steve Walz" <rstevew@armory.com> wrote in message news:<4153C126.3BFB@armory.com>...
Anon wrote:

I want to spend a few months studying computer architecture, starting
with the electronics.

The knowledge that i'm starting with, is that I just know logic gates
(on paper), i've done some karnough maps before, and I have designed a
full adder in VHDL using XiLinx. So my knowledge is small, and I have
no experience whatsoever. The only circuit i've ever made is
electricity not electronics - 2 wires a battery and a light bulb. I'd
like to change that during a couple of months self-study.

I've got 2 basic electronics books, one by Wakerly another by Gajski

Between them they cover latches, Adders, Flip flops, registers,
counters, ram, stacks, cmos, vhdl, and a little bit on processor
design- risc and cisc.

The thing is though
a)it all looks very theoretical, like VHDL. Is there any kit I could
get where I could try these things practically?
b)it's not computer centric at all, so doesn't build up to chipsets,
which is what i'm interested in. I don't really know which computer
architecture book to get, or if i would immediately be ready for
detailed manufacturer's documentation / white papers.

Any advice/methods are appreciated
thanks.
------------------
Go get some chips and a white solderless proteyping board and a
regulated +5V supply and build a bunch of them.

And here's a site you should look at:
http://www.play-hookey.com
http://www.play-hookey.com/digital/
http://www.play-hookey.com/digital/electronics/
http://www.play-hookey.com/digital/experiments/

-Steve


Looking at http://www.play-hookey.com/digital/experiments/it does
clocks and counters, but i'm also interested in buses, bridges,
multipliers/PLLs/DLLs
I want to wire up a clock to a multiplier, to a bus.

Those are pretty advanced things for an amateur to be attempting... with
what goal? I'm not sure you need to be building such circuits to
understand how they work. e.g. DLL (Delay Locked Loop) is a fairly recent
name which Rambus coined and claims to have invented for use in memory
interfacing; I suspect that similar circuits have been in use for a while
by various people but it's one of the principal patents left in their case
against the memory mfrs.

There's lots of good docs available for free download. Start at
www.micron.com for data sheets and technical notes on their memory chips.
Intel's data sheets are very informative for their bus interfaces - hint:
look at early versions of them... e.g. the early P4 data sheets had timing
diagrams which showed exactly how the double pumping of the address bus and
quad pumping of the data bus works in relation to the system clock; later
versions of the P4 data sheets removed that info.

For buses, most of the definition docs for recent ones require membership
of a SIG to get at but I believe the AGP docs are still available through
Intel and it's basically a modification of the PCI Bus. You can probably
find docs by searching for some of the older standard buses, like the S100
which was one of the first buses used in the early microprocessor-based
computers. There might still be stuff available for STB Bus, VersaBus, VME
Bus, Multibus (an Intel one) and the PC ISA Bus.

Start reading.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Dirk Bruere at Neopax
<dirk@neopax.com> wrote (in <2rgd2pF19i39tU1@uni-berlin.de&gt about
'[OT]: Ping Kevin Aylward - re your "scientific paper"', on Thu, 23 Sep
2004:

I was actually referring to qualia.

Oh, sorry, I thought you were referring to colour perception. Silly me!
What colour are qualia, then?
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Jim Yanik]

kensmith@green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote in
news:cj6uvh$4ho$13@blue.rahul.net:

In article <Xns95708A583D276jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
[... me ...]
that question completely because he did not aid and abet an enemy by
having that meeting.

Perhaps you ought to ask the POWs that suffered because of Kerry's
remarks if they think he committed treason.Or "aided and abetted" the
enemy.

Name one who did and I'll ask them. I don't think there are any and I
think you are either (A) just making it up or (B) repeating something
said by someone who made it up.

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/lehtinen200409270836.asp
Not a POW,but one who served there.

But if you were a POW,I doubt you would like to have a 'fellow' officer
state you and the other POWs were war criminals,especially after being
beaten to force you to sign statements the NVs had saying you were a war
criminal.

Meanwhile the opinion of one person is not the legal standard. Kerry
did not commit treason. Bush on the other hand did and is right now.

I doubt you even know what treason is,other than what's in a dictionary.
Tell me,have -you- any military service? I have.
I doubt you have any military service.

And from what I've read,Kerry was still in the Naval Reserves at the
time of his visit to Paris and the VC.

Who wrote what you read? I've read things about little old ladies
that live in shoes.

Again,a nice try at denying what's public fact.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

[Jim Yanik]

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote in
news:bjigl0te8p2m9cjaogusevu15rr6vm5sjm@4ax.com:

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 17:22:16 +0100, John Woodgate
jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandSNIP
techTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote (in <2icgl0p6djqm7ll73dqhhnr6ahqdoqhug4@
4ax.com&gt about '[OT]: The not-so-democratic Democrats', on Mon, 27 Sep
2004:

You were making a lot of sense up to that last part.

I have enlarged on that point in further articles today. Yes, it was a
prod, but it seemed to be a desirable one. I think we in Britain would
not at all enjoy a world in which the USA, as we know and love it (a
bit, sometimes) had collapsed.


But "the collapse of USA into separate, and adversarial, religious and
secular countries" is beyond silly. Regional differences in the US are
a fraction of what you see in much smaller European countries. The
real, if modest, cultural differences here are between big cities and
smaller towns/suburban/rural areas (ie, net consumers of Federal
dollars and net donors) and you can hardly carve up a country that
way.

Hell, we don't even kill one another at sporting events here. Be more
worried about the Neo-Nazis in Germany, maybe, who are looking like a
serious political force.

John

Actually,the Balkanization of America is proceeding apace;ever hear of
MechA? They are Mexican 'immigrants' who wish to retake the Southwest by
massive illegal immigration,and voting to secede. It's easier than ever for
immigrants to never have to learn English,the one thing that makes
communication and understanding possible.It's bad enough that one can vote
with non-English ballots!

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

[Jim Yanik]

John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in
news:KpfHMkNzVIWBFwtD@jmwa.demon.co.uk:

I read in sci.electronics.design that uvcceet@juno.com wrote (in
41587cb5$1$woehfu$mr2ice@giganews.aros.net&gt about '[OT]: The not-so-
democratic Democrats', on Mon, 27 Sep 2004:
In <WWUwz6LcuGWBFwtu@jmwa.demon.co.uk>, on 09/27/04 at 08:35 PM,
John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> said:

I read in sci.electronics.design that uvcceet@juno.com wrote (in
41586804$1$woehfu$mr2ice@giganews.aros.net&gt about '[OT]: The not-so-
democratic Democrats', on Mon, 27 Sep 2004:

I know a few of the widely-feared "religious fundamentalists" - some
Christian, some Jewish, one Mormon family, one Muslim family.

Mormons are Christians

Sort of. VERY 'sort of'.

No. They are Christians exactly, not sort of.

I wonder if the Pope thinks so. But I don't want to tread on anyone's
beliefs.

Who made the Pope the sole or consummate authority on Christianity?
(I'm atheist,BTW.)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

[Mark Fergerson]

Clarence wrote:

<nothing of substance>

OK, we get it; you can't make any sunstantive arguments against
Kevin's stuff, and think you're being ganged up on.

Get over it already.

Mark L. Fergerson

 

[Ken Smith]

In article <20040927170714.03437.00000739@mb-m27.aol.com>,
Rolavine <rolavine@aol.com> wrote:

Say what percentage of the W Ketchup money is being used for the Lyndie England
Defense fund?

I think about the same amount as goes to Castro. Why do you ask?

--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge

 

[Jim Yanik]

kensmith@green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote in
news:cjabva$tvs$1@blue.rahul.net:

In article <Xns9571CB666CDE0jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
kensmith@green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote in
news:cj6uvh$4ho$13@blue.rahul.net:

In article <Xns95708A583D276jyanikkuanet@204.117.192.21>,
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote:
[... me ...]
that question completely because he did not aid and abet an enemy
by having that meeting.

Perhaps you ought to ask the POWs that suffered because of Kerry's
remarks if they think he committed treason.Or "aided and abetted"
the enemy.

Name one who did and I'll ask them. I don't think there are any and
I think you are either (A) just making it up or (B) repeating
something said by someone who made it up.

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/lehtinen200409270836.asp
Not a POW,but one who served there.

So, you can't name the POW in question. I was fairly sure you
couldn't come up with a name, since I'd looked. How do we know there
is such a person? Do you expect us take the word of some right wing
site?

If I bothered to set up a web site that had claims on it that I'm
actually 8 feet tall would that be enough documentation to prove the
claim? I don't think so. How about if a friend of mine runs the web
site? Still no. How about if it is The National Enquirer that runs
the site? I still dont think so. www.nationalreview.com is a right
wing controlled site. It is hardly a trusted source.

Much of their stuff is from Associated Press,and other "reputable" sources.
I expected you to dismiss based on the source.
I suspect you believed CBS on their Bush "documents",too.

But if you were a POW,I doubt you would like to have a 'fellow'
officer state you and the other POWs were war criminals,especially
after being beaten to force you to sign statements the NVs had saying
you were a war criminal.

I wasn't a POW. I agree it would be a major bummer to be one but that
just not justify the false claim that Kerry committed treason.

Not a false claim. He met with the enemy while still in the Naval Reserves.

There are a lot of things the POWs did not like. The fact that the
war was lost to a 3rd world nation's army doesn't make anyone who
served in it feel good. The fact that it was started with a lie, I'm
sure, doesn't put a smile on McCain's face.

Bad things happened to POWs; We can't use that to support a false
claim any more than we can use the fact that Florida is having some
very bad weather, as a justification for claiming that Florida has
been invaded by aliens. There simply is no relationship between the
two issues.


Meanwhile the opinion of one person is not the legal standard.
Kerry did not commit treason. Bush on the other hand did and is
right now.

I doubt you even know what treason is,other than what's in a
dictionary. Tell me,have -you- any military service? I have.
I doubt you have any military service.

I know what treason is. It seems that you do not because you define
it as anything you do not like that is remotely related to the
military. You choose to overlook the treason that is happening today
and keep returning to this bogus claim that Kerry committed treason 30
years ago.

As I suspected,you have no military service.
The way the UCMJ considers treason,Kerry qualifies.

Kerry is running on his Vietnam record.He ceratinly is not running on his
Senate record!

Even if Kerry did commit treason[1], by your own standards, you can't
vote for Bush and return a traitor to the adminastation.

[1] Which we know he didn't.

No,YOU 'know' he didn't.

I don't see how whether I served in the military or not would matter
to this argument. Unless you were in the legal part of one of the
branches the fact that you served adds nothing to your claim to know
what treason is. So what branch and what rank were you? Not that it
will help your argument. I'm just curious.

And from what I've read,Kerry was still in the Naval Reserves at the
time of his visit to Paris and the VC.

Who wrote what you read? I've read things about little old ladies
that live in shoes.


Again,a nice try at denying what's public fact.

What fact? The fact that there is a little old lady living in a shoe?
You've already lost on the point about Kerry being an officer or not.
It has been proven by others that he was not. It is time for you to
give up. You've lost the argument. I know you will vote for Bush
even if we could prove he Satan himself because you believe in
republicanism as a religion.

Public fact as to when Kerry was finaly released from military service.
I believe it's in his own documents on his website.(DD-214)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

[Kevin Aylward]

Guy Macon wrote:

Kevin Aylward <salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk> says...

Guy Macon wrote:

My opinion was based on reading as far as I could before coming to
the conclusion that your web page is incomprehensible.

Its incomprehensible to you as your language skills are somewhat
lacking. I suggest you take a class.

I comprehend all the other web pages on the topic just fine.

You claim you do, unfortunately, its clear that you don't.

Multiple people have reported that your web page is incomprehensible.
I suggest that *you* take a class.

Like, 4 forms a good statistical spread. Lets get the facts straight
shall we. I originally brought the papers to the attention of the NG
around January (I think). The response was completely different. Go and
have look. We now have a few nobodies, unqualified to shine my shoes,
prattling on about things they are not intellectually equipped to
handle.


Kevin Aylward
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
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