OT: Bush Thugs Rough Up Grieving Mother of KIA

[Mike Monett]

Mike Monett wrote:

[...]

The conclusion is you cannot depend on an op amp to remain a pure
integrator when it has to deal with fast pulses. A passive filter
doesn't have these problems, and can filter the fast edges enough so
a plain low frequency op amp could be used as a gain buffer if
needed.

A lot of this would become much clearer if you built the little pll test
circuit I described earlier. After looking at these signals with the fine
resolution the tester gives you, you begin to wonder how some of the
published circuits could even work. It is obvious they may not be working
as well as the author thinks

Best Wishes,

Mike Monett

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Rolavine wrote:

From: Fred Bloggs nospam@nospam.com


Bush's daughters speak for themselves- dressed like trailer park sluts
and acting like spoiled rich kids with 'tude. I call that a failure to
raise those children properly, and I hope to God they aren't
representative of some future model- a bunch of totally worthless and
superficial airheads.


That stinks, Bush's daughters or Kerry's children are not this countries
enemies, they had nothing to do with setting policy, and they should be off
limits, along with all the relatives who are not directly involved or soaking
up 'I'm a relative' swill like Neil Bush. Since the daughters have said pretty
much nothing political you don't have that as a basis for attack either.

Excuse me? The daughters were given a primetime slot during the
Republican National Convention- it backfired, almost every commentator
expressed disgust with their bratty, airhead, rich kid demeanor- and
concluded it was a mistake to put them on. The telling aspect of this is
that George and Laura are so damned dumb they have no clue- so the
character of the children does figure into the equation.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

John Woodgate wrote:

The insurgency is largely being master-minded by non-Iraquis, some of
whom seem to have no aims but death and destruction. Only madmen think
that they can 'destroy the USA' from bases in Iraq.

This is true, and it points up another pre-war intelligence advisory
that was dismissed by the Bush Administration. That is Iraq is a warrior
society wherein the military mentality is firmly embedded and pervasive.
This is where the bent on death and destruction originates, these people
are not interested in a peaceful existence. Unfortunately their numbers
are large and their tactics paralyzing.

US citizens are in a much better position to do it.

You mean the President.

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:43:14 GMT, donald@pearce.uk.com (Don Pearce)
wrote:

But suppose those Jews polled were uninformed (and you have no way of
knowing how informed they were), and favour Kerry because they are
uninformed.

Or suppose Kerry's Jewish and they just favor him because of that? Is
Kerry Jewish? ISTR his wife is...
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

 

[colin]

"Yannick" <yannick_de_wit@pandora.be> wrote in message
news:cc50d220.0409261501.13fb561c@posting.google.com...

indeed , the good news is that my phase meausurement works, i now can
do distance measurement with direct light path on the photodiode. I am
now gonne make a microcontroller interface wich does the ADC,
calculations(phase-distance algorithm) and drives a DDS frequency
synthesiser. After this i am going to replace my PIN photodiode with
an avalanche one and the difficult part will began : measuring the
reflection on a diffuse surface... i almost cant wait

good

I see, i will have to be carefull with that, are you sure this
crosstalk is from HF electromagnetic waves and not via the same power
supply?

i have gone overboard on the supply decoupling, upto 3 stages of rc/lc
filtering to each section of the circuit, and further split with seperate
regulators, i doubt its geting through those, although each suply line might
pick it up again, but its filtered again inside the sheild also.

Hehe, that's frustrating, another question: how do you measure noise,
because i have a digital 60Mhz scope with high impedance probes,these
high impedance probes give me high voltage noise (4ktR) soo i cant see
my circuit noise.I suppose i need another probe (low impedance) ???

I wouldnt worry about noise from the 10M resistor in the scope, the scope
gain wldnt nortmaly be high enough to see it anyway, and if u have a open
probe it picks up far more hum and other emi, as soon as you conect the
probe to a low impedance then its no longer 10M ohms.

these thinks are the hard part i suppose, do you use a common mass
plane or did you split it up ?

I have a simple 2 sided pcb, the backside is a gnd/shld plane and is
undisturbed.

The top side is aranged so that as much coper is left for a top gnd plane
wich encircles each of the sections. top and botom planes are joined at
strategic points, on a suck it and see basis. careful atention paid so that
any identifiabnle curent loops that include gnd are as direct as posible so
as to enclose as little area so least inductance.

Also the top gnd plane is split so the laser oscilator/driver has its own
gnd plane on the top wich is conected to the other planes by a single point
and smal ferite bead inductor. the receiver also has its own gnd plane wich
is split from the rest but also is conected to the back plane in many places
near the center inside the sheild. the sheild is conected to its own
seperate gnd too, this last change surprisingly made most improvement.

I find now i working on reducing the noise from the HV generator, there is
about 50mv of noise wich looks too jittery to be ripple, more like noise in
the control loop, its too low freq to be easily filtered out by r/c network,
might also be a noisey capacitor, ive had a few of those. also the 100k APD
series resistor means that stray light cuases a 100hz ripple on the HV
supply, im reluctant to lower this as its there to limit the curent to a
safe value, maybe i need a transistor curent limit.

Colin =^.^=

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Paul Burridge wrote:

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:43:14 GMT, donald@pearce.uk.com (Don Pearce)
wrote:


But suppose those Jews polled were uninformed (and you have no way of
knowing how informed they were), and favour Kerry because they are
uninformed.


Or suppose Kerry's Jewish and they just favor him because of that? Is
Kerry Jewish? ISTR his wife is...

Wouldn't they be more inclined to vote for the co-Presidents Rumsfeld
and Wolfowitz then?

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote (in <4157EEB1.8050100@nospam.com&gt about '[OT]: The not-so-
democratic Democrats', on Mon, 27 Sep 2004:

John Woodgate wrote:


The insurgency is largely being master-minded by non-Iraquis, some of
whom seem to have no aims but death and destruction. Only madmen think
that they can 'destroy the USA' from bases in Iraq.

This is true, and it points up another pre-war intelligence advisory
that was dismissed by the Bush Administration. That is Iraq is a warrior
society wherein the military mentality is firmly embedded and pervasive.

It's nowhere near such a 'warrior society' as Afghanistan. That's a real
can of worms!

This is where the bent on death and destruction originates, these people
are not interested in a peaceful existence. Unfortunately their numbers
are large and their tactics paralyzing.

I don't think most Iraquis want to be 'warriors'.

US citizens are in a much better position to do it.

You mean the President.

He's better placed than some others, but he's not the only one with the
capacity. Many SF writers have clearly feared that religious
fundamentalists could do it, by writing about the collapse of USA into
separate, and adversarial, religious and secular countries.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Fred Bloggs]

John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote (in <4157EEB1.8050100@nospam.com&gt about '[OT]: The not-so-
democratic Democrats', on Mon, 27 Sep 2004:


John Woodgate wrote:


The insurgency is largely being master-minded by non-Iraquis, some of
whom seem to have no aims but death and destruction. Only madmen think
that they can 'destroy the USA' from bases in Iraq.

This is true, and it points up another pre-war intelligence advisory
that was dismissed by the Bush Administration. That is Iraq is a warrior
society wherein the military mentality is firmly embedded and pervasive.



It's nowhere near such a 'warrior society' as Afghanistan. That's a real
can of worms!

I know- and the Taliban guerilla war is making a comeback- now that they
have learned how to evade the US.

This is where the bent on death and destruction originates, these people
are not interested in a peaceful existence. Unfortunately their numbers
are large and their tactics paralyzing.


I don't think most Iraquis want to be 'warriors'.

Oh sheesh- they have 100's thousands of former elite troops who have
been thoroughly indoctrinated since a very young age. How many
terrorists does it take to paralyze a nation? And as per usual military
training, they have the ability to recruit, inspire, and motivate new
troops/followers. Bush was warned about this and advised to give these
people a part in the government from the start.

US citizens are in a much better position to do it.

You mean the President.


He's better placed than some others, but he's not the only one with the
capacity. Many SF writers have clearly feared that religious
fundamentalists could do it, by writing about the collapse of USA into
separate, and adversarial, religious and secular countries.

 

[James Meyer]

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 02:01:00 -0500, hmurray@suespammers.org (Hal Murray) wroth:

I do this sort of thing for a living, and I can tell you that measuring
the current out of the battery and accumulating a running total of amp-hours
will come *much* closer to telling you how much charge is still left in it than
any voltmeter reading no matter how you massage the voltage.

How important is the temperature?

Is 1A at room temp the same amount of "life" out of the battery
as 1A at freezing?

Current is always more accurate than voltage in predicting battery
capacity. And that takes into account temperature and how fast you take the
current out. You will never get 100% accuracy with any scheme, but measuring
the current out and keeping a running total of amp-hours will come closer than
any voltage reading.

After all, that's how the battery's maker rates size and capacity of the
battery in the first place. In amp-hours.

Jim

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote (in <4157F6F7.1070406@nospam.com&gt about '[OT]: The not-so-
democratic Democrats', on Mon, 27 Sep 2004:

Oh sheesh- they have 100's thousands of former elite troops who have
been thoroughly indoctrinated since a very young age.

But they are not the *majority* of Iraquis.

How many
terrorists does it take to paralyze a nation?

It seems to be accepted that most of the terrorists are not Iraquis. But
the answer is 'a lot'. Israel is not, and the north of Ireland was not,
'paralysed'.

And as per usual military
training, they have the ability to recruit, inspire, and motivate new
troops/followers. Bush was warned about this and advised to give these
people a part in the government from the start.

The US also has a very large number of military people. Do they have a
presence in government to keep them from destroying their country? The
former Iraqui servicemen might be happier if someone go around to paying
them any back pay that's owing. AFAIK, that still hasn't been done.

It would be a big mistake to assume that the socio-political wants and
needs of the average Iraqui are essentially different from those of the
average American.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.net>
wrote (in <j0ufl0dcp4f8db81ebml7gpumehr9sa5ri@4ax.com&gt about 'Battery
level tester.', on Mon, 27 Sep 2004:

Current is always more accurate than voltage in predicting
battery
capacity. And that takes into account temperature and how fast you take
the current out. You will never get 100% accuracy with any scheme, but
measuring the current out and keeping a running total of amp-hours will
come closer than any voltage reading.

I've never come across a thread with so many misleading diversions! The
OP doesn't need to know the capacity. He needs to know when the
*voltage* is too low to work his equipment reliably. He has a suitable
voltmeter, but it gives readings he doesn't understand, almost certainly
because of cable resistance.

What you say above is correct but not relevant to the issue.

After all, that's how the battery's maker rates size and
capacity of the
battery in the first place. In amp-hours.

Indeed, but, as you imply above, the specified capacity is given for one
particular discharge current and temperature, and the capacity is
different at other currents (and temperatures, which may or may not be
an issue here).
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Guy Macon]

ChrisGibboGibson <chrisgibbogibson@aol.com> says...

Guy Macon wrote:

BTW, I can go to the UK and produce a letter, sent by Recorded
Delivery and dated before the start of the season, that correctly
predicts the winner of the Rugby World Cup, No forgery, either.

The same can be done in any year for Formula 1 motor racing.

....or the world series of baseball, or the Olympics, or...

 

[Mark Fergerson]

Clarence wrote:

"Kevin Aylward" <salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk> wrote in message
news:nnv4d.63865$U04.14020@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

Clarence wrote:

"Mark Fergerson" <nunya@biz.ness> wrote in message
news:Zik4d.288182$Lj.82906@fed1read03...

Clarence wrote:

I made an assumption (about Kevin's possible analogization) and
deduced from there. If you choose to take offense at that on others'
behalf, go right ahead; I just don't care.

I should have known, your cut from the same cloth, you think you can
demand that others much jump through your hoop.
I expressed an opinion, and you object to any but your own.

No, you mean that you object to any but your own. Tyhat why you are
unable to rtespond to any of the valid point Mark made.

Well..... in the words
of someone on this NG "I just don't care."

Mark asked you to validate your claims. Obviously, this is beyond you.
It is you who are making the claims, so be prepared to support them or
retract them go away.

So this guy Fergy is YOUR surrogate. Or your brother.

I'm what?

You appear to have somehow assumed from my posts that I accept all of
Kev's stuff uncritically. This is, in fact, not the case.

The actual case is that I object to unscientific criticisms of
attempts to do science. I still have not seen any scientific criticisms
from you.

He said he made an assumption

That's correct.

which I found to be invalid.

You did? How so? Do you have a problem with deductive logic? Odd that
Kev found my assumption to be valid.

You put him up to it.

No, _I_ put me up to it. You're starting to sound like you think the
"get the nigger" meme has been applied to you.

This is not (or rather, ought not to be) a matter of choosing sides.

I made no "claims" I expressed MY opinions, it is not necessary to do more than
acknowledge those opines are mine. That was implicit in the statement.
It is stated clearly in the original post.

Opinions are not scientific (though they may be analyzed and
expressed in analytic terms); what, if any, non-opinion-based criticisms
do you have?

But like yourself, he has no standing to make demands.

"No standing"? What standing do you claim, then?

Mark L. Fergerson

 

[John Larkin]

On 27 Sep 2004 05:07:59 GMT, rolavine@aol.com (Rolavine) wrote:

From: John Larkin

I never borrow money. The problem is, you have to pay it back

Don't worry, bush is borrowing it for you!

Rocky

That's OK. High interest rates and high inflation suit my plans just
fine.

John

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 08:05:31 +0100, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <null@example.net
wrote (in <OKH5d.8026$Ym1.6631@trnddc03&gt about '[OT]: The not-so-
democratic Democrats', on Sun, 26 Sep 2004:

When did you decide that the citizens of Iraq are all children that need
your oh-so-wise guidance into your way of life?

It's not a question of 'children'. Iraq always has been an uneasy
political construct, set up after WW1. It includes ethnic and religious
groups that have been at odds for virtually ever. For example, the
Sunnis and Shi'ites differ over the religious position of Mohammed's
son-in-law Ali, a dispute that started around 661 AD.

Saddam's dictatorship, like previous governments, was acting as a cork
in a bottle, attempting to keep the groups from each others' throats,
just like Tito did in Yugoslavia. But Saddam is no Tito, a very clever
man. He went into the 'throat' business himself, against the Kurds, with
WMDs, and the Marsh Arabs, with the 'virtual WMD' of stealing their
water supply, leaving them to starve or die by gunfire.

The problem the West (Iraq was set up by the WW1 Allies, so not just US
and UK) has is that the political construct can't be abandoned, because
that would result in the balkanization (apt word!) of the territory,
with continual border and other disputes and ample opportunity for
neighbouring countries to play power games by supporting one faction or
another. To prevent that is why it was set up in the first place.

A REPRESENTATIVE government in Iraq WOULD run the country according to a
consensus (as far as possible within the limitations of democracy) of
the wishes of the people. There are no grounds for describing it as a
puppet, of the US or the UN.

The insurgency is largely being master-minded by non-Iraquis, some of
whom seem to have no aims but death and destruction. Only madmen think
that they can 'destroy the USA' from bases in Iraq.

US citizens are in a much better position to do it.

John,

You were making a lot of sense up to that last part.

John

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandSNIP
techTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote (in <rkcgl0tb2mtt7tdan1da8r3msoeeo99r0u@
4ax.com&gt about '[OT]: The not-so-democratic Democrats', on Mon, 27 Sep
2004:

I know a few of the widely-feared "religious fundamentalists" - some
Christian, some Jewish, one Mormon family, one Muslim family. They are
all thoughtful, generous, perfectly decent people, and their kids are
great. The Organized Left has an astonishing contempt for faith or
principles of most any kind; I wonder why. Maybe it's not contempt;
maybe it's fear, fear of people who have the strength to believe in
something.

Yes, you know some, who don't offend you. You wouldn't WANT to know the
others, but I'm sure you know they are out there.

BTW, I am nothing whatsoever to do with the Organized Left. I vote
Conservative in every General Election in which I voted at all.

I might not next time, though. Not that it would make any difference;
Rayleigh is a safe seat. The member may in fact be the next, or next but
one, Conservative PM or Chancellor of the Exchequer.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandSNIP
techTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote (in <2icgl0p6djqm7ll73dqhhnr6ahqdoqhug4@
4ax.com&gt about '[OT]: The not-so-democratic Democrats', on Mon, 27 Sep
2004:

You were making a lot of sense up to that last part.

I have enlarged on that point in further articles today. Yes, it was a
prod, but it seemed to be a desirable one. I think we in Britain would
not at all enjoy a world in which the USA, as we know and love it (a
bit, sometimes) had collapsed.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Carl D. Smith]

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 07:43:45 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 05:15:08 GMT, "Jeff" <levy_jeff@hotmail.com
wrote:

Also, try dropping a very strong rare earth magnet (neodymium) down a copper
or aluminum pipe of similar diameter!


My kid and I did that, which is why I wanted to try it with the big
magnet. Fun.

I found that a similarly effective demonstration is to take a
head positioner magnet out of a hard drive and let it slide down
a copper plate. It slides very slowly. I'm going from memory
here but I think it took about 3 seconds to slide down the 1 foot
long copper plate that was held as close to vertical as I could
and still have the magnet maintain good contact with the plate as
it slid down (maybe 75 degrees).

I was using a 1/4 inch thick copper plate. I noticed that the
same magnet slid much faster down a thin sheet of copper.

 

[Allan Herriman]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 13:38:37 +0200, "Leroy Tanner"
<ikeepthespiritalive@freenet.de> wrote:

Hello Fred,

thanks for your reply. Maybe that really is the right way to go. But
nevertheless the problem with synchronization remains somehow. As I am
talking about several GHz's, like around 30 GHz, a 1/4 of the data rate
would still be ca. 8 GHz. That means all four FPGAs should handle that 8 GHz
data synchronously. How can that be achieved? Thanks in advance for your
support.

A recent design of mine had about 40Gb/s of I/O on a single FPGA.
That was achieved with a number of relatively wide (16 bit) LVDS
buses, running relatively slowly (< 1Gbps per pair).


You haven't said *why* you want multiple FPGAs handling the same data
stream, and why they need to be synchronised so tightly. It would
help if you revealed the nature of the bit stream and the processing
it requires.


BTW, you are using Virtex2-Pro. They have multiple built-in SERDES
devices that work up to 3.125Gbp/s (or 10Gb/s in -Pro-X). It's easier
to route a small number of high speed 100ohm diff pairs around your
board than a large number of lower speed diff pairs.

Regards,
Allan

 

[Guy Macon]

Rich Grise <null@example.net> says...

I can make it even simpler.

Take the 1 donkey/2 haystacks problem. Lead a donkey to 2 haystacks,
and turn him loose exactly between them. Put them, say, more than
one donkey-length apart.

Obviously there's no way to predict which haystack he will select,
or even sit there stubbornly! (if there weren't free will, how could
there be such a thing as stubbornness?)

Now, put yourself in the experiment. There's a room, with two
prizes of identical value, perfectly equal in every way, down to
the last atom, which is theoretically possible, except one's
to the right, and the other's to the left.

You enter the room. There's a chance you'll go right, a chance
you'll go left, a chance you'll turn around and walk out the door,
there's a chance you'll sing "Aida" just to piss off the
researcher -

The question is, do you, personally - the individual piece of
self-awareness that's reading this to you from the little scaffold
in your head just behind your ear - have any say in the matter?

I say you do, in spades. ;-)

You are, after all, driving your own bus.

Hmmm. This would seem to imply that metastable logic gates (my apologies
for mentioning electronics n an electronics newgroup) and coin tiosses
have free will.