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On 10/26/2013 8:07 AM, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:52:51 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
On 10/25/2013 7:20 PM, Bob F wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
Too bad your governor, who didn't believe the ACA would come to pass,
didn't prepare your state for it, eh?
Wrong again, dumbshit. His governor (and mine) didn't drink the
KoolAid, as yours obviously did.
I just heard on the news that 36 states are having real problems with the
federal site. Funny, but that's exactly how many states bagged out of their
chance to do it themselves. There go those silly Republicans again, creating a
problem, and then blaming it on anyone but themselves.
Hi Bob,
I'm asking again for more info.
Thanks, Mikek
crickets
He's lying. Like all true believers, he has to lie to justify his
worldview. ...to himself, even when everyone else can clearly see
through the BS.
I don't know if he's lying, there are situations where he could have
that situation. If he has a health condition, his previous insurance
premium could be high to cover that. The new Obamacare premium could be
lower because Obamacare doesn't charge more for preexisting conditions.
Or, he might have had a Cadillac policy that was very expensive, his
new policy is not as good, but also not as expensive.
I'll ask again for more info.
I'm leaning that way, but I'm curious enough, that I would like toOn Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:38:47 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
On 10/26/2013 8:07 AM, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:52:51 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
On 10/25/2013 7:20 PM, Bob F wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
Too bad your governor, who didn't believe the ACA would come to pass,
didn't prepare your state for it, eh?
Wrong again, dumbshit. His governor (and mine) didn't drink the
KoolAid, as yours obviously did.
I just heard on the news that 36 states are having real problems with the
federal site. Funny, but that's exactly how many states bagged out of their
chance to do it themselves. There go those silly Republicans again, creating a
problem, and then blaming it on anyone but themselves.
Hi Bob,
I'm asking again for more info.
Thanks, Mikek
crickets
He's lying. Like all true believers, he has to lie to justify his
worldview. ...to himself, even when everyone else can clearly see
through the BS.
I don't know if he's lying, there are situations where he could have
that situation. If he has a health condition, his previous insurance
premium could be high to cover that. The new Obamacare premium could be
lower because Obamacare doesn't charge more for preexisting conditions.
Or, he might have had a Cadillac policy that was very expensive, his
new policy is not as good, but also not as expensive.
I'll ask again for more info.
He is. It's BobF's MO. If he weren't, he would have answered your
question by now. He's ducking you.
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 09:33:06 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:01:46 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:15:26 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
Bring it on, fuckwad. We won't be using pikes on you.
Oh, please. Save your projectile vomiting for your teabaggin'
buddies.
Your (zero) IQ is showing.
Pot calling the kettle black again.
You lefties would call people racist for saying the same that,
lefty.
LOL! Too bad you can't think.
You're the lefty, Lefty. It's amazing how you deny your own
beliefs. Idiots do that.
And only right wingers behave like you. What do the koch brothers
pay you for this?
That's all you lefties have; lies. Keep it up, you're doing Slowman
proud.
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 09:44:08 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:17:26 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
How exactly is employer mandated insurance any different than
government mandated insurance. And what is wrong with the
Republican concept of a mandate. It worked for Romney. The Repubs
pushed it for years before the Democrats decided they could do it
if the Repubs like it so.
The keyword is "mandated", moron. If it's mandated, it's a tax.
If you're forcing one person to pay for another, it's theft.
Why didn't you stop this Republican idea before the Democrats
devided to go along with it?
You're lying, again, Lefty. We can always tell; you're typing.
Really?
Really. All you can do is lie. It's all any lefty can do.
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:52:09 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:47:49 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
On 10/25/2013 7:20 PM, Bob F wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
Too bad your governor, who didn't believe the ACA would come to
pass, didn't prepare your state for it, eh?
Wrong again, dumbshit. His governor (and mine) didn't drink the
KoolAid, as yours obviously did.
I just heard on the news that 36 states are having real problems
with the federal site. Funny, but that's exactly how many states
bagged out of their chance to do it themselves. There go those
silly Republicans again, creating a problem, and then blaming it
on anyone but themselves.
It's not the states having problems, it's the people in those
states relying on the Federal government site.
The point being missed here is that apparently the states are
capable of such a thing and the federal government isn't. The
economies of scale should be working exactly the opposite way. Of
course the federal site was a no-bid contract given to one of
Moochell's buddies.
The fact is that the bill as passed was written for the states to do
this job as they saw best, and funds were not include for the Feds
to do the job for the states. Then as time goes on, the right wing
states chose to ignore their responsibilty to their own citizens, so
the feds had to pick up their slack, but the Republicans in congress
still didn't accept paying for their responsibility. Every state
that didn't opt-in screwed their own citizens by making it harder to
sign up and denying them some coverages.
You're lying again, but that's not surprising anyone.
You lefties do think the truth is funny. You're only serious aboutkrw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 09:33:06 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:01:46 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:15:26 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
Bring it on, fuckwad. We won't be using pikes on you.
Oh, please. Save your projectile vomiting for your teabaggin'
buddies.
Your (zero) IQ is showing.
Pot calling the kettle black again.
You lefties would call people racist for saying the same that,
lefty.
LOL! Too bad you can't think.
You're the lefty, Lefty. It's amazing how you deny your own
beliefs. Idiots do that.
And only right wingers behave like you. What do the koch brothers
pay you for this?
That's all you lefties have; lies. Keep it up, you're doing Slowman
proud.
LOL! After al the idiotic thing you say, that's really funny
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:52:09 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:47:49 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
On 10/25/2013 7:20 PM, Bob F wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
Too bad your governor, who didn't believe the ACA would come to
pass, didn't prepare your state for it, eh?
Wrong again, dumbshit. His governor (and mine) didn't drink the
KoolAid, as yours obviously did.
I just heard on the news that 36 states are having real problems
with the federal site. Funny, but that's exactly how many states
bagged out of their chance to do it themselves. There go those
silly Republicans again, creating a problem, and then blaming it
on anyone but themselves.
It's not the states having problems, it's the people in those
states relying on the Federal government site.
The point being missed here is that apparently the states are
capable of such a thing and the federal government isn't. The
economies of scale should be working exactly the opposite way. Of
course the federal site was a no-bid contract given to one of
Moochell's buddies.
The fact is that the bill as passed was written for the states to do
this job as they saw best, and funds were not include for the Feds
to do the job for the states. Then as time goes on, the right wing
states chose to ignore their responsibilty to their own citizens, so
the feds had to pick up their slack, but the Republicans in congress
still didn't accept paying for their responsibility. Every state
that didn't opt-in screwed their own citizens by making it harder to
sign up and denying them some coverages.
You're lying again, but that's not surprising anyone.
Is that really the best you can do, moron?
Yeah, the truth *is* the best I can do. You should try it some time.
IKWYABWAI has always been your best argument. Well, your lies wouldkrw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 09:44:08 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:17:26 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
How exactly is employer mandated insurance any different than
government mandated insurance. And what is wrong with the
Republican concept of a mandate. It worked for Romney. The Repubs
pushed it for years before the Democrats decided they could do it
if the Repubs like it so.
The keyword is "mandated", moron. If it's mandated, it's a tax.
If you're forcing one person to pay for another, it's theft.
Why didn't you stop this Republican idea before the Democrats
devided to go along with it?
You're lying, again, Lefty. We can always tell; you're typing.
Really?
Really. All you can do is lie. It's all any lefty can do.
From your example, it's all righttards can do.
minutes signing up, including time spend digging out my records."
Dear Bob F.,
snip
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:40:35 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
Dear Bob F.,
snip
I had taken my mother to the doctors the other day and a woman was on
a cell phone in the waiting room. We came in in the mist of her
conversation, this is what she said: "I'm gonna kill him, He said we
could keep our existing plan..."
I glanced at her while we were hanging our coats up, she looked like a
really pissed off democrat.
How could you do that to your constituents, I'll never know.
Cheers
On 10/27/2013 11:40 AM, Martin Riddle wrote:
On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:40:35 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
Dear Bob F.,
snip
I had taken my mother to the doctors the other day and a woman was on
a cell phone in the waiting room. We came in in the mist of her
conversation, this is what she said: "I'm gonna kill him, He said we
could keep our existing plan..."
I glanced at her while we were hanging our coats up, she looked like a
really pissed off democrat.
How could you do that to your constituents, I'll never know.
Cheers
What is your point? If you get insurance like most people your employer
tells you whether you can "keep your doctor" or not. Most of the
"cancelled" policies are good for another year and the carriers may have
compliant policies by then and getting all verklempt at this point in
time is indicative of a mental defect.
What is your point? If you get insurance like most people your employer
tells you whether you can "keep your doctor" or not. Most of the
"cancelled" policies are good for another year and the carriers may have
compliant policies by then and getting all verklempt at this point in
time is indicative of a mental defect.
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 18:15:24 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 09:33:06 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:01:46 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:15:26 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
Bring it on, fuckwad. We won't be using pikes on you.
Oh, please. Save your projectile vomiting for your teabaggin'
buddies.
Your (zero) IQ is showing.
Pot calling the kettle black again.
You lefties would call people racist for saying the same that,
lefty.
LOL! Too bad you can't think.
You're the lefty, Lefty. It's amazing how you deny your own
beliefs. Idiots do that.
And only right wingers behave like you. What do the koch brothers
pay you for this?
That's all you lefties have; lies. Keep it up, you're doing Slowman
proud.
LOL! After al the idiotic thing you say, that's really funny
You lefties do think the truth is funny. You're only serious about
your lies.
On 10/27/2013 11:56 AM, dave wrote:
snip
What is your point? If you get insurance like most people your employer
tells you whether you can "keep your doctor" or not. Most of the
"cancelled" policies are good for another year and the carriers may have
compliant policies by then and getting all verklempt at this point in
time is indicative of a mental defect.
The issue here is that when Obama said that people could keep their
existing plan he should have quantified it by stating that he was
talking about employer plans that at least met the minimum requirements
(of which nearly all do).
What we're seeing now is people paying themselves for very poor
insurance being told that their rates are going up, or their policies
being cancelled, because the polices don't meet even the bare minimum of
coverage offered in the "Bronze" plan.
The demand is so great, Obama doesn't want us to know the number.You know that the Republicans have lost the battle when all they have to
complain about is a web site that's unable to handle the demand and the
complaints of people that are going to have to change to an insurance
plan that's actually a much better deal for them.
On 10/26/2013 9:09 PM, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 18:15:24 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 09:33:06 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:01:46 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:15:26 -0700, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
Bring it on, fuckwad. We won't be using pikes on you.
Oh, please. Save your projectile vomiting for your teabaggin'
buddies.
Your (zero) IQ is showing.
Pot calling the kettle black again.
You lefties would call people racist for saying the same that,
lefty.
LOL! Too bad you can't think.
You're the lefty, Lefty. It's amazing how you deny your own
beliefs. Idiots do that.
And only right wingers behave like you. What do the koch brothers
pay you for this?
That's all you lefties have; lies. Keep it up, you're doing Slowman
proud.
LOL! After al the idiotic thing you say, that's really funny
You lefties do think the truth is funny. You're only serious about
your lies.
ROLFLMAO, hey krw, I see 6 newsgroups listed up there. Which one are you
battling the P.L.L.C.F. in? They're everywhere, they're everywhere!
If you children don't behave, there will be no Obama treats after
recess. ^_^
On 10/27/2013 8:32 PM, sms wrote:
On 10/27/2013 11:56 AM, dave wrote:
snip
What is your point? If you get insurance like most people your employer
tells you whether you can "keep your doctor" or not. Most of the
"cancelled" policies are good for another year and the carriers may have
compliant policies by then and getting all verklempt at this point in
time is indicative of a mental defect.
The issue here is that when Obama said that people could keep their
existing plan he should have quantified it by stating that he was
talking about employer plans that at least met the minimum requirements
(of which nearly all do).
They do because they cover a wide variety of employees, can't just
pick the plan that's good for a single 56 year old lady. You also need
to cover the young couple with a 4 year old and one on the way.
What we're seeing now is people paying themselves for very poor
insurance being told that their rates are going up, or their policies
being cancelled, because the polices don't meet even the bare minimum of
coverage offered in the "Bronze" plan.
When you say bare minimum of coverage offered in the "Bronze" plan,
that;s not quite right, there are 10 essentials to qualify under the new
rules.
These are the ten essentials as decreed by Obamacare.
http://www.healthinsurance.org/learn/health-reforms-10-essential-benefits/
Must haves:
Maternity and newborn care
Definition: Care provided to women during pregnancy and during and after
labor; care for newly born children
****************
Pediatric services, including oral and vision care
Definition: The other nine essential benefits, but provided to kids. Of
course, the mix of services and common conditions treated are quite
different for different age groups.
There are many 45 year old single males that don't want these two
coverages. To bad! Obamacare says you must. Let alone the 45 year old
couple that doesn't want them.
The others aren't quite so pushy, and my $ 5,200 policy (before
Obamacare $7,600 (after Obamacare) included the other 8 Obamacare
decreed essentials.
You know that the Republicans have lost the battle when all they have to
complain about is a web site that's unable to handle the demand and the
complaints of people that are going to have to change to an insurance
plan that's actually a much better deal for them.
The demand is so great, Obama doesn't want us to know the number.
That's sarcasm.
I think there is great disappointment in the number of people signing
up for Obamamcare, and when you hear numbers they always include
Medicare enrollments, which are 75% to 90% of the number touted.
Don't get to excited about the numbers, many of the enrollies are
unhealthy people finding they can get on O'care cheaper because they
don't pay additional for their poor health. These people are not the
ones Obamacare needs to stay solvent. Remember O'care wants the young
healthy ones.
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 05:09:56 -0500, The Daring Dufas
the-daring-dufas@stinky-finger.net> wrote:
On 10/26/2013 9:09 PM, krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 18:15:24 -0700, "Bob F"
bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 09:33:06 -0700, "Bob F"
bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:01:46 -0700, "Bob F"
bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:15:26 -0700, "Bob F"
bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
Bring it on, fuckwad. We won't be using pikes
on you.
Oh, please. Save your projectile vomiting for
your teabaggin' buddies.
Your (zero) IQ is showing.
Pot calling the kettle black again.
You lefties would call people racist for saying the
same that, lefty.
LOL! Too bad you can't think.
You're the lefty, Lefty. It's amazing how you deny your
own beliefs. Idiots do that.
And only right wingers behave like you. What do the koch
brothers pay you for this?
That's all you lefties have; lies. Keep it up, you're doing
Slowman proud.
LOL! After al the idiotic thing you say, that's really funny
You lefties do think the truth is funny. You're only serious
about your lies.
ROLFLMAO, hey krw, I see 6 newsgroups listed up there. Which one
are you battling the P.L.L.C.F. in? They're everywhere, they're
everywhere! If you children don't behave, there will be no Obama
treats after recess. ^_^
I saw his lies in SED, this time, but does like to lie everywhere he
goes. Lefties have no choice. It's their DNA.
On 10/23/2013 12:15 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
I saw Obama on TV, he has ask that we tell others what Obamacare has
meant me.
I has meant my insurance premium has went up by 44.4% in the last
17 months. I will see the next increase in May 2014.
I checked on the price of Obamacare, the silver plan
is comparable in price, but the copay is about $2000 higher
then the $10,000 copay I have.
Note the low priced policy I had, increased to be as expensive as
Obamacare.
Mikek
Bullshit.
That is a good description of the Marxist Obama care program. Anyone check
outy de4nytal and glasses benefits?
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:47:49 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
On 10/25/2013 7:20 PM, Bob F wrote:
krw@attt.bizz wrote:
Too bad your governor, who didn't believe the ACA would come to
pass, didn't prepare your state for it, eh?
Wrong again, dumbshit. His governor (and mine) didn't drink the
KoolAid, as yours obviously did.
I just heard on the news that 36 states are having real problems
with the federal site. Funny, but that's exactly how many states
bagged out of their chance to do it themselves. There go those
silly Republicans again, creating a problem, and then blaming it on
anyone but themselves.
It's not the states having problems, it's the people in those
states relying on the Federal government site.
The point being missed here is that apparently the states are capable
of such a thing and the federal government isn't. The economies of
scale should be working exactly the opposite way. Of course the
federal site was a no-bid contract given to one of Moochell's buddies.
The fact is that the bill as passed was written for the states to do this job as
they saw best, and funds were not include for the Feds to do the job for the
states. Then as time goes on, the right wing states chose to ignore their
responsibilty to their own citizens, so the feds had to pick up their slack, but
the Republicans in congress still didn't accept paying for their responsibility.
Every state that didn't opt-in screwed their own citizens by making it harder to
sign up and denying them some coverages.