Lithium Ion standard batteries

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It's a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens smartphone.
Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!
Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most smartphone
cameras.
For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or better
OPTICAL zoom.

What about a Nokia as a camera?
http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/nokia-lumia-1020-4g-lte-32gb-white/

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

> Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Looks good to me

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

> Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

AND its Windows

Last thing anyone needs in a phone.

You use windows

Not on any phone I don't.

> Can you even print from your Iphone?

Corse you can.

meaning a lot of my Windows apps will work on it.

But the user interface is completely fucked in a phone.

Seems a lot of my applications can be used in this Nokia Lumia 1020

Nope, fuck all of them can, because of the lack of any mouse.

Don't like the lack of security on Android or Iphone

More fool you with the iphone. The sandboxing it uses
and the fact that Apple won't let insecure apps into the
Apple store means that the security leaves that on any
Windows system for dead.

Not sure about Iphone but when I take a photo on it Google
grab that photo and EVERY face in it has a square box around
it click on that box and Google searches Internet giving me
EVERYTHING that can be found about the owner of that face

Doesn't happen with an iphone unless you want to do that.
 
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014 16:23:52 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It's a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens smartphone.
Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!
Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most smartphone
cameras.
For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or better
OPTICAL zoom.

What about a Nokia as a camera?
http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/nokia-lumia-1020-4g-lte-32gb-white/

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.
Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

Looks good to me

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.
Again Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

AND its Windows

Last thing anyone needs in a phone.

You use windows

Not on any phone I don't.

It's a "Phablet" and Win 8

Can you even print from your Iphone?

Corse you can.

You can from your WiFi prnter?

meaning a lot of my Windows apps will work on it.

But the user interface is completely fucked in a phone.

Seems a lot of my applications can be used in this Nokia Lumia 1020

Nope, fuck all of them can, because of the lack of any mouse.

Touch screen Win 8 no mouse needed

Don't like the lack of security on Android or Iphone

More fool you with the iphone. The sandboxing it uses
and the fact that Apple won't let insecure apps into the
Apple store means that the security leaves that on any
Windows system for dead.

Not sure about Iphone but when I take a photo on it Google
grab that photo and EVERY face in it has a square box around
it click on that box and Google searches Internet giving me
EVERYTHING that can be found about the owner of that face

Doesn't happen with an iphone unless you want to do that.

Using Chrome it automatically did this with me
Took a photo in Campbelltown Mall and it went to the internet showing
red Sqaures around recognised faces
I did stop it doing this but had to stop it by working out how?
 
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It's a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens
smartphone.
Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!
Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most
smartphone
cameras.
For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or better
OPTICAL zoom.

What about a Nokia as a camera?
http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/nokia-lumia-1020-4g-lte-32gb-white/

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

Looks good to me

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.
opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Again Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

AND its Windows

Last thing anyone needs in a phone.

You use windows

Not on any phone I don't.

It's a "Phablet" and Win 8

I'm not actually stupid enough to use any phablet and Win 8.

Can you even print from your Iphone?

Corse you can.

You can from your WiFi prnter?

Corse you can.

meaning a lot of my Windows apps will work on it.

But the user interface is completely fucked in a phone.

Seems a lot of my applications can be used in this Nokia Lumia 1020

Nope, fuck all of them can, because of the lack of any mouse.

Touch screen Win 8 no mouse needed

Wrong with most of your apps.

Don't like the lack of security on Android or Iphone

More fool you with the iphone. The sandboxing it uses
and the fact that Apple won't let insecure apps into the
Apple store means that the security leaves that on any
Windows system for dead.

Not sure about Iphone but when I take a photo on it Google
grab that photo and EVERY face in it has a square box around
it click on that box and Google searches Internet giving me
EVERYTHING that can be found about the owner of that face

Doesn't happen with an iphone unless you want to do that.

Using Chrome it automatically did this with me

Doesn't on any iphone.

Took a photo in Campbelltown Mall and it went to the
internet showing red Sqaures around recognised faces

Doesn't on any iphone.

> I did stop it doing this but had to stop it by working out how?

Don't need to do anything on an iphone.

And I don't get that result on my android either.
 
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It’s a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens smartphone.

That was talking about a decent modern
DSLR, not a fixed lens smartphone.

Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

It's true - smartphones are crap at macro photography.

Pity smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most smartphone
cameras.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You said smartphones are better - they are NOT!

Smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or better
OPTICAL zoom.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

What part of "For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera
with x8 or better OPTICAL zoom" do I need to explain to you?

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?
 
On 8/03/2014 2:40 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It’s a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens smartphone.

That was talking about a decent modern
DSLR, not a fixed lens smartphone.

Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

It's true - smartphones are crap at macro photography.

Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most smartphone cameras.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You said smartphones are better - they are NOT!

For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or better OPTICAL zoom.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

What part of "For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera
with x8 or better OPTICAL zoom" do I need to explain to you?
 
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It’s a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens
smartphone.

That was talking about a decent modern
DSLR, not a fixed lens smartphone.

Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

It's true - smartphones are crap at macro photography.

Pity smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most smartphone
cameras.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You said smartphones are better - they are NOT!

Smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or better
OPTICAL zoom.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

What part of "For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera
with x8 or better OPTICAL zoom" do I need to explain to you?

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You are avoiding the point

There was never any point, just you thrashing some straw man.
 
On 8/03/2014 10:36 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It’s a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens smartphone.

That was talking about a decent modern
DSLR, not a fixed lens smartphone.

Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

It's true - smartphones are crap at macro photography.

Pity smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most smartphone cameras.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You said smartphones are better - they are NOT!

Smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or better OPTICAL zoom.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

What part of "For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera
with x8 or better OPTICAL zoom" do I need to explain to you?

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You are avoiding the point - understandable, because you are wrong.
Smartphones are clearly inferior to digital cameras.
 
On 8/03/2014 11:42 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It’s a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens smartphone.

That was talking about a decent modern
DSLR, not a fixed lens smartphone.

Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

It's true - smartphones are crap at macro photography.

Pity smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most smartphone cameras.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You said smartphones are better - they are NOT!

Smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or better OPTICAL zoom.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

What part of "For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera
with x8 or better OPTICAL zoom" do I need to explain to you?

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You are avoiding the point

There was never any point, just you thrashing some straw man.

Cut the crap.
You were putting shit on old DSLR's, when it is obvious that they
produce superior images to your beloved I-wank-5s or whatever inferior
smartphone you have.
 
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It’s a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens
smartphone.

That was talking about a decent modern
DSLR, not a fixed lens smartphone.

Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

It's true - smartphones are crap at macro photography.

Pity smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most
smartphone cameras.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You said smartphones are better - they are NOT!

Smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or
better OPTICAL zoom.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

What part of "For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera
with x8 or better OPTICAL zoom" do I need to explain to you?

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You are avoiding the point

There was never any point, just you thrashing some straw man.

Cut the crap.

No need to tell yourself that publicly, just do it.

> You were putting shit on old DSLR's,

And was clearly saying that a decent modern DSLR
with a built in lithium ion battery leaves it for dead.
 
Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
SG1 <Lost@theraces.com> wrote just the puerile
shit that’s always spewing from the back of it.
 
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yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It’s a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens
smartphone.

That was talking about a decent modern
DSLR, not a fixed lens smartphone.

Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

It's true - smartphones are crap at macro photography.

Pity smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most
smartphone cameras.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You said smartphones are better - they are NOT!

Smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or better
OPTICAL zoom.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

What part of "For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera
with x8 or better OPTICAL zoom" do I need to explain to you?

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You are avoiding the point

There was never any point, just you thrashing some straw man.

Ya got that right Roddles he is thrashing you the one and only "Strawman".


 
On 8/03/2014 7:54 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It's a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens
smartphone.
Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!
Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most
smartphone
cameras.
For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or
better
OPTICAL zoom.

What about a Nokia as a camera?
http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/nokia-lumia-1020-4g-lte-32gb-white/

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

Looks good to me

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.
opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Again Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

AND its Windows

Last thing anyone needs in a phone.

You use windows

Not on any phone I don't.

It's a "Phablet" and Win 8

I'm not actually stupid enough to use any phablet and Win 8.

Can you even print from your Iphone?

Corse you can.

You can from your WiFi prnter?

Corse you can.

meaning a lot of my Windows apps will work on it.

But the user interface is completely fucked in a phone.

Seems a lot of my applications can be used in this Nokia Lumia 1020

Nope, fuck all of them can, because of the lack of any mouse.

Touch screen Win 8 no mouse needed

Wrong with most of your apps.

Don't like the lack of security on Android or Iphone

More fool you with the iphone. The sandboxing it uses
and the fact that Apple won't let insecure apps into the
Apple store means that the security leaves that on any
Windows system for dead.

Not sure about Iphone but when I take a photo on it Google
grab that photo and EVERY face in it has a square box around
it click on that box and Google searches Internet giving me
EVERYTHING that can be found about the owner of that face

Doesn't happen with an iphone unless you want to do that.

Using Chrome it automatically did this with me

Doesn't on any iphone.

Took a photo in Campbelltown Mall and it went to the
internet showing red Sqaures around recognised faces

Doesn't on any iphone.

I did stop it doing this but had to stop it by working out how?

Don't need to do anything on an iphone.

And I don't get that result on my android either.

Have you updated your iPhone to get over the "Goto Fail" fuckup?

Good one Apple, a rookie mistake.
 
keithr <user@domain.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It's a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens
smartphone.
Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!
Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most
smartphone cameras.
For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or
better OPTICAL zoom.

What about a Nokia as a camera?
http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/nokia-lumia-1020-4g-lte-32gb-white/

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

Looks good to me

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.
opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Again Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

AND its Windows

Last thing anyone needs in a phone.

You use windows

Not on any phone I don't.

It's a "Phablet" and Win 8

I'm not actually stupid enough to use any phablet and Win 8.

Can you even print from your Iphone?

Corse you can.

You can from your WiFi prnter?

Corse you can.

meaning a lot of my Windows apps will work on it.

But the user interface is completely fucked in a phone.

Seems a lot of my applications can be used in this Nokia Lumia 1020

Nope, fuck all of them can, because of the lack of any mouse.

Touch screen Win 8 no mouse needed

Wrong with most of your apps.

Don't like the lack of security on Android or Iphone

More fool you with the iphone. The sandboxing it uses
and the fact that Apple won't let insecure apps into the
Apple store means that the security leaves that on any
Windows system for dead.

Not sure about Iphone but when I take a photo on it Google
grab that photo and EVERY face in it has a square box around
it click on that box and Google searches Internet giving me
EVERYTHING that can be found about the owner of that face

Doesn't happen with an iphone unless you want to do that.

Using Chrome it automatically did this with me

Doesn't on any iphone.

Took a photo in Campbelltown Mall and it went to the
internet showing red Sqaures around recognised faces

Doesn't on any iphone.

I did stop it doing this but had to stop it by working out how?

Don't need to do anything on an iphone.

And I don't get that result on my android either.

Have you updated your iPhone to get over the "Goto Fail" fuckup?

Yep, and it never caused me any problem anyway.

> Good one Apple, a rookie mistake.

Corse you have never ever fucked up yourself, eh ?
 
On 10/03/2014 4:35 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
keithr <user@domain.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It's a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens
smartphone.
Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!
Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most
smartphone cameras.
For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or
better OPTICAL zoom.

What about a Nokia as a camera?
http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/nokia-lumia-1020-4g-lte-32gb-white/

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

Looks good to me

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.
opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Again Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

AND its Windows

Last thing anyone needs in a phone.

You use windows

Not on any phone I don't.

It's a "Phablet" and Win 8

I'm not actually stupid enough to use any phablet and Win 8.

Can you even print from your Iphone?

Corse you can.

You can from your WiFi prnter?

Corse you can.

meaning a lot of my Windows apps will work on it.

But the user interface is completely fucked in a phone.

Seems a lot of my applications can be used in this Nokia Lumia 1020

Nope, fuck all of them can, because of the lack of any mouse.

Touch screen Win 8 no mouse needed

Wrong with most of your apps.

Don't like the lack of security on Android or Iphone

More fool you with the iphone. The sandboxing it uses
and the fact that Apple won't let insecure apps into the
Apple store means that the security leaves that on any
Windows system for dead.

Not sure about Iphone but when I take a photo on it Google
grab that photo and EVERY face in it has a square box around
it click on that box and Google searches Internet giving me
EVERYTHING that can be found about the owner of that face

Doesn't happen with an iphone unless you want to do that.

Using Chrome it automatically did this with me

Doesn't on any iphone.

Took a photo in Campbelltown Mall and it went to the
internet showing red Sqaures around recognised faces

Doesn't on any iphone.

I did stop it doing this but had to stop it by working out how?

Don't need to do anything on an iphone.

And I don't get that result on my android either.

Have you updated your iPhone to get over the "Goto Fail" fuckup?

Yep, and it never caused me any problem anyway.

Good one Apple, a rookie mistake.

Corse you have never ever fucked up yourself, eh ?

Everybody fucks up occasionally, but operations like Apple are supposed
to have systems to detect them, and prevent them from ever getting to
the paying customers. A fuckup as big as this one should have been
detected long before release.
 
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 09:02:09 +1000, keithr <user@domain.invalid>
wrote:

Took a photo in Campbelltown Mall and it went to the
internet showing red Sqaures around recognised faces

Doesn't on any iphone.

I did stop it doing this but had to stop it by working out how?

Don't need to do anything on an iphone.

And I don't get that result on my android either.

Have you updated your iPhone to get over the "Goto Fail" fuckup?

Yep, and it never caused me any problem anyway.

Good one Apple, a rookie mistake.

Corse you have never ever fucked up yourself, eh ?

Everybody fucks up occasionally, but operations like Apple are supposed
to have systems to detect them, and prevent them from ever getting to
the paying customers. A fuckup as big as this one should have been
detected long before release.

http://www.zdnet.com/apples-goto-fail-needs-a-massive-culture-change-to-fix-7000026783/
"If that Apple SSL thing happened to Microsoft, literal s*** would be
pouring down on Redmond right now. Pouring,"
--
Petzl
Q: What has Tony Abbott promised Murdoch?
A: A broadband network that will be so slow as to offer no competition to his pay TV interests.
http://www.itwire.com/your-it-news/entertainment/62459-netflix-australia-suffers-huge-setback
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3861931.htm
http://tinyurl.com/LOBBYIST-RUN-ABBOTT
http://audacityofgreed.blogspot.com.au/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Mdk-5-v-M
FTTN, (Fraudband) while an incremental improvement on what we have now,
is a short-sighted waste of time and money that will still
leave Australia lagging behind the rest of the developed World,
squandering billions of dollars on obsolete technology in the process.
lib puppeteers believe lying will get them over the line,
but if that's all you have to offer in opposition they can only be worse in government.
 
keithr <user@domain.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
keithr <user@domain.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It's a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens
smartphone.
Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!
Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most
smartphone cameras.
For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or
better OPTICAL zoom.

What about a Nokia as a camera?
http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/nokia-lumia-1020-4g-lte-32gb-white/

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

Looks good to me

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Again Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

AND its Windows

Last thing anyone needs in a phone.

You use windows

Not on any phone I don't.

It's a "Phablet" and Win 8

I'm not actually stupid enough to use any phablet and Win 8.

Can you even print from your Iphone?

Corse you can.

You can from your WiFi prnter?

Corse you can.

meaning a lot of my Windows apps will work on it.

But the user interface is completely fucked in a phone.

Seems a lot of my applications can be used in this Nokia Lumia 1020

Nope, fuck all of them can, because of the lack of any mouse.

Touch screen Win 8 no mouse needed

Wrong with most of your apps.

Don't like the lack of security on Android or Iphone

More fool you with the iphone. The sandboxing it uses
and the fact that Apple won't let insecure apps into the
Apple store means that the security leaves that on any
Windows system for dead.

Not sure about Iphone but when I take a photo on it Google
grab that photo and EVERY face in it has a square box around
it click on that box and Google searches Internet giving me
EVERYTHING that can be found about the owner of that face

Doesn't happen with an iphone unless you want to do that.

Using Chrome it automatically did this with me

Doesn't on any iphone.

Took a photo in Campbelltown Mall and it went to the
internet showing red Sqaures around recognised faces

Doesn't on any iphone.

I did stop it doing this but had to stop it by working out how?

Don't need to do anything on an iphone.

And I don't get that result on my android either.

Have you updated your iPhone to get over the "Goto Fail" fuckup?

Yep, and it never caused me any problem anyway.

Good one Apple, a rookie mistake.

Corse you have never ever fucked up yourself, eh ?

Everybody fucks up occasionally, but operations like
Apple are supposed to have systems to detect them, and
prevent them from ever getting to the paying customers.

And even those fuck up occasionally.

A fuckup as big as this one should have
been detected long before release.

Have fun listing any operation that has never
had a fuckup that has ever done anything.
 
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
keithr <user@domain.invalid> wrote

Took a photo in Campbelltown Mall and it went to the
internet showing red Sqaures around recognised faces

Doesn't on any iphone.

I did stop it doing this but had to stop it by working out how?

Don't need to do anything on an iphone.

And I don't get that result on my android either.

Have you updated your iPhone to get over the "Goto Fail" fuckup?

Yep, and it never caused me any problem anyway.

Good one Apple, a rookie mistake.

Corse you have never ever fucked up yourself, eh ?

Everybody fucks up occasionally, but operations like Apple are supposed
to have systems to detect them, and prevent them from ever getting to
the paying customers. A fuckup as big as this one should have been
detected long before release.

http://www.zdnet.com/apples-goto-fail-needs-a-massive-culture-change-to-fix-7000026783/

Just another fuckwit journo that has never had a fucking clue.

"If that Apple SSL thing happened to Microsoft, literal s***
would be pouring down on Redmond right now. Pouring,"

Just another fuckwit that has never had a fucking clue.
 
On 10/03/2014 10:39 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
keithr <user@domain.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
keithr <user@domain.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It's a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens
smartphone.
Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!
Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most
smartphone cameras.
For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or
better OPTICAL zoom.

What about a Nokia as a camera?
http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/nokia-lumia-1020-4g-lte-32gb-white/

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

Looks good to me

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Again Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

AND its Windows

Last thing anyone needs in a phone.

You use windows

Not on any phone I don't.

It's a "Phablet" and Win 8

I'm not actually stupid enough to use any phablet and Win 8.

Can you even print from your Iphone?

Corse you can.

You can from your WiFi prnter?

Corse you can.

meaning a lot of my Windows apps will work on it.

But the user interface is completely fucked in a phone.

Seems a lot of my applications can be used in this Nokia Lumia 1020

Nope, fuck all of them can, because of the lack of any mouse.

Touch screen Win 8 no mouse needed

Wrong with most of your apps.

Don't like the lack of security on Android or Iphone

More fool you with the iphone. The sandboxing it uses
and the fact that Apple won't let insecure apps into the
Apple store means that the security leaves that on any
Windows system for dead.

Not sure about Iphone but when I take a photo on it Google
grab that photo and EVERY face in it has a square box around
it click on that box and Google searches Internet giving me
EVERYTHING that can be found about the owner of that face

Doesn't happen with an iphone unless you want to do that.

Using Chrome it automatically did this with me

Doesn't on any iphone.

Took a photo in Campbelltown Mall and it went to the
internet showing red Sqaures around recognised faces

Doesn't on any iphone.

I did stop it doing this but had to stop it by working out how?

Don't need to do anything on an iphone.

And I don't get that result on my android either.

Have you updated your iPhone to get over the "Goto Fail" fuckup?

Yep, and it never caused me any problem anyway.

Good one Apple, a rookie mistake.

Corse you have never ever fucked up yourself, eh ?

Everybody fucks up occasionally, but operations like Apple are
supposed to have systems to detect them, and prevent them from ever
getting to the paying customers.

And even those fuck up occasionally.

Not if it is done properly especially with something as obvious as that.
The code review should have found it even before it got to the QA dept.

A fuckup as big as this one should have been detected long before
release.

Have fun listing any operation that has never had a fuckup that has ever
done anything.
 
On 9/03/2014 1:42 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It’s a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens smartphone.

That was talking about a decent modern
DSLR, not a fixed lens smartphone.

Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

It's true - smartphones are crap at macro photography.

Pity smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most smartphone cameras.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You said smartphones are better - they are NOT!

Smartphones don't even appear at all in what you quoted.

For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or better OPTICAL zoom.

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

What part of "For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera
with x8 or better OPTICAL zoom" do I need to explain to you?

Having fun thrashing that straw man ?

You are avoiding the point

There was never any point, just you thrashing some straw man.

Cut the crap.

No need to tell yourself that publicly, just do it.

The only crap here is you changing your story.


You were putting shit on old DSLR's,

And was clearly saying that a decent modern DSLR
with a built in lithium ion battery leaves it for dead.

No, you actually claimed smartphones are better than Damian's SLR:

Damian>> My 14 year old digital camera still fits inside my side pocket.

Rod Speed>Most of us just use our much better phone cameras instead.

.............

Damian>> Dunno. The canon digital camera still produces higher enough mega pixels.
Damian>> And the SD cards are still available for more memory.
Damian>> Doesn't make sense throwing away something that's so flexible
Damian>> and still get the job done.

Rod Speed >Even the iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

QED
 
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On 10/03/2014 10:39 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
keithr <user@domain.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
keithr <user@domain.invalid> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
yaputya <sir.leftlegin.to.U@gmale.com> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Damian <damian_andrews75@yahoo.com.au> wrote

It'a 14 year old digital camera,

It's a dinosaur.

that still works like a charm with AA bats.

You get a lot better result with a decent modern
camera that has an internal lithium ion battery.

Even a 14 year old DSLR will easily outperform a fixed lens
smartphone.
Try doing macro close-up work with a smartphone!
Cheap modern digital cameras are also MUCH better than most
smartphone cameras.
For $50 you can buy a 14 or better Megapixel camera with x8 or
better OPTICAL zoom.

What about a Nokia as a camera?
http://www.kogan.com/au/buy/nokia-lumia-1020-4g-lte-32gb-white/

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

Looks good to me

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

The iphone 5S leaves it for dead.

opinion about iphone

Nope, fact. There is a reason fuck all buy that Nokia.

Nokia takes a much superior photo

Bullshit.

Again Judge for oneself
http://tinyurl.com/mgmwm9y

That doesn't compare what that steaming turd of a phone
produces in the same situation as an iphone 5S, stupid.

AND its Windows

Last thing anyone needs in a phone.

You use windows

Not on any phone I don't.

It's a "Phablet" and Win 8

I'm not actually stupid enough to use any phablet and Win 8.

Can you even print from your Iphone?

Corse you can.

You can from your WiFi prnter?

Corse you can.

meaning a lot of my Windows apps will work on it.

But the user interface is completely fucked in a phone.

Seems a lot of my applications can be used in this Nokia Lumia
1020

Nope, fuck all of them can, because of the lack of any mouse.

Touch screen Win 8 no mouse needed

Wrong with most of your apps.

Don't like the lack of security on Android or Iphone

More fool you with the iphone. The sandboxing it uses
and the fact that Apple won't let insecure apps into the
Apple store means that the security leaves that on any
Windows system for dead.

Not sure about Iphone but when I take a photo on it Google
grab that photo and EVERY face in it has a square box around
it click on that box and Google searches Internet giving me
EVERYTHING that can be found about the owner of that face

Doesn't happen with an iphone unless you want to do that.

Using Chrome it automatically did this with me

Doesn't on any iphone.

Took a photo in Campbelltown Mall and it went to the
internet showing red Sqaures around recognised faces

Doesn't on any iphone.

I did stop it doing this but had to stop it by working out how?

Don't need to do anything on an iphone.

And I don't get that result on my android either.

Have you updated your iPhone to get over the "Goto Fail" fuckup?

Yep, and it never caused me any problem anyway.

Good one Apple, a rookie mistake.

Corse you have never ever fucked up yourself, eh ?

Everybody fucks up occasionally, but operations like Apple are
supposed to have systems to detect them, and prevent them from ever
getting to the paying customers.

And even those fuck up occasionally.

Not if it is done properly especially with something as obvious as that.

Bullshit.

> The code review should have found it even before it got to the QA dept.

Have fun listing any operation that has never had a fuckup that has ever
done anything.

A fuckup as big as this one should have been detected long before
release.

Have fun listing any operation that has never had a fuckup that has ever
done anything.
 

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