Lithium batteries, not worth it...

[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

torsdag den 20. april 2023 kl. 18.01.41 UTC+2 skrev SteveW:

On 20/04/2023 15:08, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:56:21 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote
rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote

The old BBC mysteries had murders performed with coal gas. Or guns.
Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Sylvia Plath found it quiet effective. You might blow the place up but
it was more environmentally friendly than what the Japanese came up
with.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/japanese-deterg/

They\'re polite though. They print warning signs advising responders to
don hazmat suits prior to retrieving the corpse.

Yuk. H2S is stinky.

And people wonder why suicides with firearms shoot themselves.

\"Razors pain you, rivers are damp,
acids stain you, drugs cause cramp.

Nembutal doesnt.

Helium works fine.

Guns aren\'t lawful, nooses give,
gas smells awful; you might as well live.\"

Dorothy Parker

The ideal tool for suicide or execution is nitrogen. Cheap and
painless.
Yes. I am surprised that the US has not used it for carrying out the
death penalty. Especially when there were difficulties obtaining the
drugs that they normally used.

there was a documentary on the death penalty, the interviews of those pro the death penalty was very
much against nitrogen because it would be easy, painless and probably euphoric right before death

 

[Rod Speed]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 00:08:18 +1000, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:56:21 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote

The old BBC mysteries had murders performed with coal gas. Or guns.
Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Sylvia Plath found it quiet effective. You might blow the place up
but
it was more environmentally friendly than what the Japanese came up
with.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/japanese-deterg/

They\'re polite though. They print warning signs advising responders
to
don hazmat suits prior to retrieving the corpse.

Yuk. H2S is stinky.

And people wonder why suicides with firearms shoot themselves.

\"Razors pain you, rivers are damp,
acids stain you, drugs cause cramp.

Nembutal doesnt.

Helium works fine.

Guns aren\'t lawful, nooses give,
gas smells awful; you might as well live.\"

Dorothy Parker

The ideal tool for suicide or execution is nitrogen.

Nope, helium is much more readily available.

> Cheap

The price doesnt matter within reason when topping yourself.

and
painless.

Same with helium.

 

[Peeler]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 05:47:09 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

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[Lasse Langwadt Christensen]

torsdag den 20. april 2023 kl. 21.47.21 UTC+2 skrev Rod Speed:

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 00:08:18 +1000, John Larkin
jla...@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:56:21 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote:

rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote
rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote

The old BBC mysteries had murders performed with coal gas. Or guns.
Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Sylvia Plath found it quiet effective. You might blow the place up
but
it was more environmentally friendly than what the Japanese came up
with.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/japanese-deterg/

They\'re polite though. They print warning signs advising responders
to
don hazmat suits prior to retrieving the corpse.

Yuk. H2S is stinky.

And people wonder why suicides with firearms shoot themselves.

\"Razors pain you, rivers are damp,
acids stain you, drugs cause cramp.

Nembutal doesnt.

Helium works fine.

Guns aren\'t lawful, nooses give,
gas smells awful; you might as well live.\"

Dorothy Parker

The ideal tool for suicide or execution is nitrogen.
Nope, helium is much more readily available.

you must be joking ...

 

[rbowman]

On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 17:01:33 +0100, SteveW wrote:

Yes. I am surprised that the US has not used it for carrying out the
death penalty. Especially when there were difficulties obtaining the
drugs that they normally used.

I\'m surprised they don\'t use fentanyl. It appears to be very effective and
I assume the cops have a lot of seized evidence if they haven\'t sold it on
the side. Instead they use some mysterious combination that doesn\'t work
half the time. I\'m not big on coddling felons but if that isn\'t cruel and
unusual punishment I don\'t know what is.

 

[rbowman]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 05:47:09 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> Nope, helium is much more readily available.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/helium-shortage-doctors-are-
worried-running-element-threaten-mris-rcna52978

You have to get out more often.

Factoid of the day: The Germans weren\'t stupid and realized hydrogen
filled zeppelins weren\'t the best idea but the US had a monopoly on helium
production and banned export. The US seems to be up to it again:

https://futureworld.org/mindbullets/us-bans-helium-exports-in-element-
trade-war/

 

[Rod Speed]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 13:10:21 +1000, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 05:47:09 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Nope, helium is much more readily available.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/helium-shortage-doctors-are-
worried-running-element-threaten-mris-rcna52978

You have to get out more often.

Nope, trivially buyable for stuff a trivial as party balloons.

Factoid of the day: The Germans weren\'t stupid and realized hydrogen
filled zeppelins weren\'t the best idea but the US had a monopoly on
helium
production and banned export. The US seems to be up to it again:

https://futureworld.org/mindbullets/us-bans-helium-exports-in-element-
trade-war/

But not problem for stuff a trivial as party balloons.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2023-04-20, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 00:08:18 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:56:21 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote

The old BBC mysteries had murders performed with coal gas. Or guns.
Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Sylvia Plath found it quiet effective. You might blow the place up
but
it was more environmentally friendly than what the Japanese came up
with.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/japanese-deterg/

They\'re polite though. They print warning signs advising responders
to
don hazmat suits prior to retrieving the corpse.

Yuk. H2S is stinky.

And people wonder why suicides with firearms shoot themselves.

\"Razors pain you, rivers are damp,
acids stain you, drugs cause cramp.

Nembutal doesnt.

Helium works fine.

Guns aren\'t lawful, nooses give,
gas smells awful; you might as well live.\"

Dorothy Parker

The ideal tool for suicide or execution is nitrogen.

Nope, helium is much more readily available.

You can buy helium more easily, but nitrogen is much cheaper.

It\'s also easier to make nitrogen at home.


--
Jasen.
🇺🇦 Слава Україні

 

[Rod Speed]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 15:13:04 +1000, Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org>
wrote:

On 2023-04-20, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 00:08:18 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:56:21 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote

The old BBC mysteries had murders performed with coal gas. Or
guns.
Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Sylvia Plath found it quiet effective. You might blow the place up
but
it was more environmentally friendly than what the Japanese came up
with.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/japanese-deterg/

They\'re polite though. They print warning signs advising responders
to
don hazmat suits prior to retrieving the corpse.

Yuk. H2S is stinky.

And people wonder why suicides with firearms shoot themselves.

\"Razors pain you, rivers are damp,
acids stain you, drugs cause cramp.

Nembutal doesnt.

Helium works fine.

Guns aren\'t lawful, nooses give,
gas smells awful; you might as well live.\"

Dorothy Parker

The ideal tool for suicide or execution is nitrogen.

Nope, helium is much more readily available.

You can buy helium more easily, but nitrogen is much cheaper.

No its not, helium is much cheaper.

> It\'s also easier to make nitrogen at home.

Much easier to just get a small cylinder of
helium and take it home or have it delivered.

 

[Peeler]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 16:15:19 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

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[Peeler]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 14:01:31 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

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Tim+ about trolling Rodent Speed:
He is by far the most persistent troll who seems to be able to get under the
skin of folk who really should know better. Since when did arguing with a
troll ever achieve anything (beyond giving the troll pleasure)?
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[Peeler]

On 21 Apr 2023 03:10:21 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/helium-shortage-doctors-are-
worried-running-element-threaten-mris-rcna52978

WTF has your senile shit got to do with the three ngs that you keep
trashing, you subnormal senile gossip, Trumptard, Hitler- and Putin
sympathizer?

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\"Skunk probably tastes like chicken. I\'ve never gotten that comparison,
most famously with Chicken of the Sea. Tuna is a fish and tastes like a
fish. I will admit I\'ve had chicken that tasted like fish. I don\'t think I
want to know what they were feeding it.\"
MID: <k44t5lFl1k3U4@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On 21 Apr 2023 03:03:03 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> I\'m surprised they don\'t use fentanyl. It appears to be very effective

But I suppose your big mouth will survive it nevertheless, our resident
bigmouth!

--
More of the senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic senile blather:
\"I stopped for breakfast at a diner in Virginia when the state didn\'t do
DST. I remarked on the time difference and the crusty old waitress said
\'We keep God\'s time in Virginia.\'

I also lived in Ft. Wayne for a while.\"

MID: <t0tjfa$6r5$1@dont-email.me>

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 16:15:19 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 15:13:04 +1000, Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org
wrote:

On 2023-04-20, Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 00:08:18 +1000, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandsnipmetechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:56:21 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote

The old BBC mysteries had murders performed with coal gas. Or
guns.
Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Sylvia Plath found it quiet effective. You might blow the place up
but
it was more environmentally friendly than what the Japanese came up
with.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/japanese-deterg/

They\'re polite though. They print warning signs advising responders
to
don hazmat suits prior to retrieving the corpse.

Yuk. H2S is stinky.

And people wonder why suicides with firearms shoot themselves.

\"Razors pain you, rivers are damp,
acids stain you, drugs cause cramp.

Nembutal doesnt.

Helium works fine.

Guns aren\'t lawful, nooses give,
gas smells awful; you might as well live.\"

Dorothy Parker

The ideal tool for suicide or execution is nitrogen.

Nope, helium is much more readily available.

You can buy helium more easily, but nitrogen is much cheaper.

No its not, helium is much cheaper.

It\'s also easier to make nitrogen at home.

Much easier to just get a small cylinder of
helium and take it home or have it delivered.

\"Liquid nitrogen costs as much as beer and liquid helium costs as much
as whiskey.\"

 

[Scott Lurndal]

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> writes:

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 16:15:19 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 15:13:04 +1000, Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org
wrote:


Nope, helium is much more readily available.

You can buy helium more easily, but nitrogen is much cheaper.

No its not, helium is much cheaper.

It\'s also easier to make nitrogen at home.

Much easier to just get a small cylinder of
helium and take it home or have it delivered.

\"Liquid nitrogen costs as much as beer and liquid helium costs as much
as whiskey.\"

Speedy\'s assertion about helium availability is inaccurate. There is
a significant helium shortage, in part due to the war in Ukraine; as
Russia was a major supplier of He. Medical professionals are worried
as MRI machines require He for operation. My local grocery store won\'t
fill balloons that weren\'t purchased at the store due to short supplies.

The company Party City had to declare bankruptcy in January, in part due to
helium shortages and the resulting price rise.

Spot prices have dropped by 30% since the the peak in mid january, but
projections are for continuing supply side scarcity.

 

[rbowman]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 14:01:31 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> Nope, trivially buyable for stuff a trivial as party balloons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/global-helium-shortage-puts-
future-party-city-air-n1004386

I never understood how they made a living but the space where the local
party store was is now up for lease. It probably was more than helium. I
often walk over the the adjacent market to get something for dinner and
people stuffing balloons in their cars was a common sight. No more. I\'ve
no idea if there is another store in town.

 

[TTman]

On 14/04/2023 04:57, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Are you greenies nuts?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385430139122
Nearly 3 grand for a battery with the same capacity of two deep cycle
lead acid batteries costing £150?

That\'s the price in the UK for Lipo batteries.

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[Peeler]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 17:41:31 +0100, TTman, another mentally challenged
troll-feeding senile asshole, babbled:


> That\'s the price in the UK for Lipo batteries.

The price for feeding the attention-starved trolling wanker is that these 3
ngs will get trashed to death with his and all you troll-feeding senile
assholes\' sick shit!

 

[Peeler]

On 21 Apr 2023 16:31:19 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

I never understood how they made a living but the space where the local
party store was is now up for lease. It probably was more than helium. I
often walk over the the adjacent market to get something for dinner and
people stuffing balloons in their cars was a common sight. No more. I\'ve
no idea if there is another store in town.

Can\'t someone just come with a baseball bat and make this endlessly
driveling gossip shut up?

--
Yet more of the abnormal senile gossiping by the resident senile gossip:
\"I never understood how they made a living but the space where the local
party store was is now up for lease. It probably was more than helium. I
often walk over the the adjacent market to get something for dinner and
people stuffing balloons in their cars was a common sight. No more. I\'ve
no idea if there is another store in town.\"
MID: <kafs2nF6vi1U15@mid.individual.net>

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 16:22:36 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> writes:
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 16:15:19 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 15:13:04 +1000, Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org
wrote:


Nope, helium is much more readily available.

You can buy helium more easily, but nitrogen is much cheaper.

No its not, helium is much cheaper.

It\'s also easier to make nitrogen at home.

Much easier to just get a small cylinder of
helium and take it home or have it delivered.

\"Liquid nitrogen costs as much as beer and liquid helium costs as much
as whiskey.\"


Speedy\'s assertion about helium availability is inaccurate. There is
a significant helium shortage, in part due to the war in Ukraine; as
Russia was a major supplier of He. Medical professionals are worried
as MRI machines require He for operation. My local grocery store won\'t
fill balloons that weren\'t purchased at the store due to short supplies.

The company Party City had to declare bankruptcy in January, in part due to
helium shortages and the resulting price rise.

Spot prices have dropped by 30% since the the peak in mid january, but
projections are for continuing supply side scarcity.

A couple of times I should have had an MRI, I got a cat scan or a
plain x-ray instead. MRIs are slow and expensive and the cryo bits are
part of that.