Lithium batteries, not worth it...

On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 04:02:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> Coal gas is nothing even remotely like what fracking produces.

No shit, Shakespeare, and neither is syngas remotely like the natural gas
released by fracking. A gas comprised primarily of methane is not the same
as a gas that is a mixture of hydrogen and carbon monoxide.
 
On 19/04/2023 02:31, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 04:11:27 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:


Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Nope, Midsommer Murders doesnt.

No imagination. In a Father Brown episode the vicar kills his gay blade
brother by throwing a hammer off the roof.

Novel!


--
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels
 
On 19/04/2023 02:49, rbowman wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 17:59:43 +0100, charles wrote:

Skoda is a car manufacturer based in the Czech Republic. It is a wholly
owned subsiduary of Volkswagen. I have owned a Skoda EV (Enyaq) for
about 18 months; SWMBO has a small Skoda petrol car for 12 years.

Definitely not a player in the US market, nor is Dacia or a number of
other manufacturers. Too bad. I had a Renault Alliance (Renault 9) rental
that was a decent car -- but that was close to 40 years ago. I think they
pulled out in \'89. My brother had a Peugeot he really liked but they are
long gone. The brief rumor that they were coming back to the US died.

The point is that 90% of US citizens are overweight, the roads are wide
and straight and the average parking space will take a challenger tank,
and gas is relatively cheap.

So the cars are twice as big and feature 3-8 litre engines instead of
1-3litre, and handle like elephants on tranquillisers.

There is no demand for a compact car designed for twisty congested
European roads that will do 60mpg, and park in a space barely 6ft wide.


--
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels
 
On 19/04/2023 03:13, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 04:02:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Coal gas is nothing even remotely like what fracking produces.

No shit, Shakespeare, and neither is syngas remotely like the natural gas
released by fracking. A gas comprised primarily of methane is not the same
as a gas that is a mixture of hydrogen and carbon monoxide.

Synthetic gas can be made to be like methane.

Syngas is not the term used for coal gas, town gas, water gas or
producer gas all of which are made from coal.

--
\"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They
always run out of other people\'s money. It\'s quite a characteristic of them\"

Margaret Thatcher
 
On 19 Apr 2023 01:16:54 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


You are correct. The gas released by fracking is natural gas, chiefly
methane, the same as a natural gas well. There is nothing \'syn\' about it.

The gas you stinking senile cretins keep releasing in these 3 ngs is
unbearable!

--
Yet more absolutely idiotic senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
\"I save my fries quota for one of the local food trucks that offers
poutine every now and then. If you\'re going for a coronary might as well
do it right.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On 19 Apr 2023 02:13:26 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> No shit, Shakespeare, and neither is syngas

Yes, ever MORE shit and gas from you two trolling swines!

--
Gossiping \"lowbrowwoman\" about herself:
\"Usenet is my blog... I don\'t give a damn if anyone ever reads my posts
but they are useful in marshaling [sic] my thoughts.\"
MID: <iteioiF60jmU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On 19 Apr 2023 01:31:21 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


No imagination. In a Father Brown episode the vicar kills his gay blade
brother by throwing a hammer off the roof.

Keep your stinking senile shit out of these ngs, you trolling senile
cretins!

--
Yet more of the so very interesting senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
\"My family loaded me into a \'51 Chevy and drove from NY to Seattle and
back in \'52. I\'m alive. The Chevy had a painted steel dashboard with two
little hand prints worn down to the primer because I liked to stand up
and lean on it to see where we were going.\"
MID: <j2kuc1F3ejsU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On 19 Apr 2023 01:21:51 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

<FLUSH yet more of the stinking senile crap>

....and better air in here again!

--
Yet another thrilling story from the resident senile gossip\'s thrilling
life:
\"Around here you have to be careful to lock your car toward the end of
summer or somebody will leave a grocery sack full of zucchini in it.\"
 
On 19 Apr 2023 01:49:23 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


Definitely not a player in the US market, nor is Dacia or a number of
other manufacturers. Too bad. I had a Renault Alliance (Renault 9) rental
that was a decent car -- but that was close to 40 years ago. I think they
pulled out in \'89. My brother had a Peugeot he really liked but they are
long gone. The brief rumor that they were coming back to the US died.

Probably they were just fed up with bigmouthed Americans like you who got no
control over their big mouths, you abnormal pathological bigmouth!

--
And yet another \"cool\" line from the resident bigmouthed all-American
superhero:
\"I was working on the roof when the cat came up the ladder to see what I
was doing. Cats do not do well going down aluminum ladders.\"
MID: <k9roshF2rjdU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On 19/04/2023 07:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 19/04/2023 03:13, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 04:02:40 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

Coal gas is nothing even remotely like what fracking produces.

No shit, Shakespeare, and neither is syngas remotely like the natural gas
released by fracking. A gas comprised primarily of methane is not the
same
as a gas that is a mixture of hydrogen and carbon monoxide.

Synthetic gas can be made to be like methane.

Syngas is not the term used for coal gas, town gas, water gas or
producer gas all of which are made from coal.

If this was just uk.d-i-y I might agree that coal gas is used to
describe the gas coming from coal. However syngas is a term used more
worldwide to describe a gas from coal gasification:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syngas

and the process:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasification

I have no idea why so many seem to be in denial that syngas is an often
used term for gases made from coal.
 
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 07:12:53 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 19/04/2023 02:31, rbowman wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 04:11:27 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:


Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Nope, Midsommer Murders doesnt.

No imagination. In a Father Brown episode the vicar kills his gay blade
brother by throwing a hammer off the roof.

Novel!

But low probabity of working.
 
On 19 Apr 2023 01:21:51 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:48:49 -0700, John Larkin wrote:


The old BBC mysteries had murders performed with coal gas. Or guns.
Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Sylvia Plath found it quiet effective. You might blow the place up but it
was more environmentally friendly than what the Japanese came up with.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/japanese-deterg/

They\'re polite though. They print warning signs advising responders to don
hazmat suits prior to retrieving the corpse.

Yuk. H2S is stinky.
 
On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 12:42:22 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On 19 Apr 2023 01:21:51 GMT, rbowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:48:49 -0700, John Larkin wrote:


The old BBC mysteries had murders performed with coal gas. Or guns.
Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Sylvia Plath found it quiet effective. You might blow the place up but it
was more environmentally friendly than what the Japanese came up with.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/japanese-deterg/

They\'re polite though. They print warning signs advising responders to don
hazmat suits prior to retrieving the corpse.

Yuk. H2S is stinky.

But your H2S receptors saturate quickly, which makes H2S particularly dangerous - you stop noticing the stink and can hang around for long enough to inhale a fatal dose.
It\'s roughly as toxic as carbon monoxide.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 07:42:09 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On 19 Apr 2023 01:21:51 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:48:49 -0700, John Larkin wrote:


The old BBC mysteries had murders performed with coal gas. Or guns.
Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Sylvia Plath found it quiet effective. You might blow the place up but
it was more environmentally friendly than what the Japanese came up
with.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/japanese-deterg/

They\'re polite though. They print warning signs advising responders to
don hazmat suits prior to retrieving the corpse.

Yuk. H2S is stinky.

And people wonder why suicides with firearms shoot themselves.

\"Razors pain you, rivers are damp,
acids stain you, drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren\'t lawful, nooses give,
gas smells awful; you might as well live.\"

Dorothy Parker
 
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote

The old BBC mysteries had murders performed with coal gas. Or guns.
Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Sylvia Plath found it quiet effective. You might blow the place up but
it was more environmentally friendly than what the Japanese came up
with.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/japanese-deterg/

They\'re polite though. They print warning signs advising responders to
don hazmat suits prior to retrieving the corpse.

Yuk. H2S is stinky.

And people wonder why suicides with firearms shoot themselves.

\"Razors pain you, rivers are damp,
acids stain you, drugs cause cramp.

Nembutal doesnt.

Helium works fine.

Guns aren\'t lawful, nooses give,
gas smells awful; you might as well live.\"

Dorothy Parker
 
On 20 Apr 2023 03:41:00 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


And people wonder why suicides with firearms shoot themselves.

\"Razors pain you, rivers are damp,
acids stain you, drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren\'t lawful, nooses give,
gas smells awful; you might as well live.\"

Dorothy Parker

But most are just bigmouthed COWARDS like you, you dumb hayseed!

--
Yet another thrilling account from the resident senile superhero\'s senile
life:
\"I went to a Driveby Truckers concert at a local venue and they made me
leave my knife in the car. Never went back. Come to think of it the Truckers
had a Black Lives Matter banner. Never bought any of their music again
either.\"
MID: <k84ip9Fesb1U1@mid.individual.net>
 
On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:56:21 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
Tim+ about trolling Rodent Speed:
He is by far the most persistent troll who seems to be able to get under the
skin of folk who really should know better. Since when did arguing with a
troll ever achieve anything (beyond giving the troll pleasure)?
MID: <1421057667.659518815.743467.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>
 
On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:56:21 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote

The old BBC mysteries had murders performed with coal gas. Or guns.
Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Sylvia Plath found it quiet effective. You might blow the place up but
it was more environmentally friendly than what the Japanese came up
with.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/japanese-deterg/

They\'re polite though. They print warning signs advising responders to
don hazmat suits prior to retrieving the corpse.

Yuk. H2S is stinky.

And people wonder why suicides with firearms shoot themselves.

\"Razors pain you, rivers are damp,
acids stain you, drugs cause cramp.

Nembutal doesnt.

Helium works fine.

Guns aren\'t lawful, nooses give,
gas smells awful; you might as well live.\"

Dorothy Parker

The ideal tool for suicide or execution is nitrogen. Cheap and
painless.
 
On 19/04/2023 15:42, John Larkin wrote:
On 19 Apr 2023 01:21:51 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:48:49 -0700, John Larkin wrote:


The old BBC mysteries had murders performed with coal gas. Or guns.
Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Sylvia Plath found it quiet effective. You might blow the place up but it
was more environmentally friendly than what the Japanese came up with.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/japanese-deterg/

They\'re polite though. They print warning signs advising responders to don
hazmat suits prior to retrieving the corpse.

Yuk. H2S is stinky.

From what our chemistry taught us many years ago, when it is there, but
stops being stinky, it is up towards lethal levels.
 
On 20/04/2023 15:08, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:56:21 +1000, \"Rod Speed\"
rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote
John Larkin wrote

The old BBC mysteries had murders performed with coal gas. Or guns.
Now they have to use poison or push people off roofs.

Sylvia Plath found it quiet effective. You might blow the place up but
it was more environmentally friendly than what the Japanese came up
with.

https://www.wired.com/2009/03/japanese-deterg/

They\'re polite though. They print warning signs advising responders to
don hazmat suits prior to retrieving the corpse.

Yuk. H2S is stinky.

And people wonder why suicides with firearms shoot themselves.

\"Razors pain you, rivers are damp,
acids stain you, drugs cause cramp.

Nembutal doesnt.

Helium works fine.

Guns aren\'t lawful, nooses give,
gas smells awful; you might as well live.\"

Dorothy Parker

The ideal tool for suicide or execution is nitrogen. Cheap and
painless.

Yes. I am surprised that the US has not used it for carrying out the
death penalty. Especially when there were difficulties obtaining the
drugs that they normally used.
 

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