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MassiveProng · Jan 31, 2007

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:29:26 -0500, "Charles Schuler"
<charleschuler@comcast.net> Gave us:

It isn't the ISO that is important. It is having a unique
installation key. Otherwise your online updating, and subsequently
your machine are fucked. D'OH!

There are three distinct classes of home computer users (the clueless, the
honest and the cheaters):

1/ The clueless do whatever they are told to do.
2/ The honest do whatever they feel is morally and legally correct.
3/ The cheaters do whatever they can get away with, and often have unlimited
powers of rationalization.

And again, if one takes a key that is over used, and attempts
updating their OS, they could get a "surprise ending".

Even W2k gets validations ran on it.

Homer J Simpson · Jan 31, 2007

"SioL" <Sio_spam_L@same.net> wrote in message
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Why bother? By now you can probably D/L Vista from Gnutella, let alone
older software.

Vista (final) was available at least a month ago from P2P networks. Can't
imagine
why one would download or even buy that crap, though.

Yeah, Bob was better.

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Marra · Feb 2, 2007

A lot of people have been holding off buying a new PC until Vista came
in.

http://www.ckp-railways.talktalk.net/pcbcad28.htm

Marra · Feb 2, 2007

Microsloth's new trick is the software patent system. They are doing
everything they can to make sure that all of the unique aspects of Vista are
covered by software patents. File formats, compression algorithms, FAT,
the system for handling extended file names...

Its all NTFS now, FAT32 went out years ago.

http://www.ckp-railways.talktalk.net/pcbcad28.htm

Marra · Feb 2, 2007

On 1 Feb, 22:09, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:31:20 GMT, "Tom Del Rosso"

t...@att.net.invalid> wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
messagenews:h8mvr2tpnv8lmn0uadsq1jnkc8l9ajmfvc@4ax.com

We checked with Alienware today (we plan to buy 6 or 7 new systems
from them soon.) They'll ship systems with XP Pro installed, estimated
for at least another year. Seems that a lot of corporate customers
aren't ready for Vista.

I have heard that some of the chains won't sell XP-equipped machines
any more.

And if you don't want MS to push IE 7 on you, you must get and use
IE7BlockerToolkit.EXE.

Actually, you must have used it a few months ago or IE 7 would already be
pushed into your PCs.

The only time I ever run IE is to do Windows patches.

John

I never run IE I use Firefox.

http://www.ckp-railways.talktalk.net/pcbcad28.htm

Chuck Harris · Feb 2, 2007

Marra wrote:

Microsloth's new trick is the software patent system. They are doing
everything they can to make sure that all of the unique aspects of Vista are
covered by software patents. File formats, compression algorithms, FAT,
the system for handling extended file names...

Its all NTFS now, FAT32 went out years ago.

http://www.ckp-railways.talktalk.net/pcbcad28.htm

So?

I was giving a very few examples of their new hobby.

Are you trying to say that they aren't patenting everything
in sight?

Albert van der Horst · Feb 3, 2007

In article <1169464306.19024.0@iris.uk.clara.net>,
Tom Lucas <news@REMOVE_auto_THIS_flame_TO_REPLY.clara.co.uk> wrote:

"Paul Burke" <paul@scazon.com> wrote in message
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Tom Lucas wrote:

In a bit of a thread hijack, how good is Wine with odd legacy
hardware? I've got an ancient Noral 80188 emulator that needs a
proprietory ISA card in the PC and will only run under DOS. Would
Wine let me use it on a new PC or do you reckon that it would a be a
bit too proprietory for that?

I don't think even Linux software will add an ISA slot to your
motherboard.

mutter, mutter> Well yes, I shall have to cross the hardware bridge too
but assuming that I have an ISA slot then is Wine likely to allow me use
it for the emulator? Of course, I am now less certain that I could
purchase a motherboard with ISA on it - do they still make them?

Linux also contains dosemu, that is probably better at running
old DOS software then Wine. At least you will have less overhead, and
an easier time debuggin.

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Charles Schuler · Feb 3, 2007

So?

I was giving a very few examples of their new hobby.

Are you trying to say that they aren't patenting everything
in sight?

A new company is filled with the excitement of creativity and development.
As they mature (and unfortunately start to burn out) they switch to seeking
revenue via other means. Making it very succinct: Innovation morphs into
Litigation.

Richard Kanarek · Feb 4, 2007

Greetings,

The following is a link to a new, bare, 5 ISA slot motherboard. Price:
$5.95.

http://www.bgmicro.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=11773

(Home page: www.bgimicro.com)

Need I continue?

Cordially,
Richard Kanarek

Not affiliated with BG Micro except as an occasional (satisfied)
customer.

On 03 Feb 2007 21:23:08 GMT, Albert van der Horst
<albert@spenarnc.xs4all.nl> wrote:

In article <1169464306.19024.0@iris.uk.clara.net>,
Tom Lucas <news@REMOVE_auto_THIS_flame_TO_REPLY.clara.co.uk> wrote:
"Paul Burke" <paul@scazon.com> wrote in message
news:51jjtaF1ki6nlU1@mid.individual.net...
Tom Lucas wrote:

In a bit of a thread hijack, how good is Wine with odd legacy
hardware? I've got an ancient Noral 80188 emulator that needs a
proprietory ISA card in the PC and will only run under DOS. Would
Wine let me use it on a new PC or do you reckon that it would a be a
bit too proprietory for that?

I don't think even Linux software will add an ISA slot to your
motherboard.

mutter, mutter> Well yes, I shall have to cross the hardware bridge too
but assuming that I have an ISA slot then is Wine likely to allow me use
it for the emulator? Of course, I am now less certain that I could
purchase a motherboard with ISA on it - do they still make them?

Linux also contains dosemu, that is probably better at running
old DOS software then Wine. At least you will have less overhead, and
an easier time debuggin.

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Robert · Feb 27, 2007

"Terry Given" <my_name@ieee.org> wrote in message
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Robert wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 09:09:25 +1300, Terry Given <my_name@ieee.org
wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:12:25 -0700, Donald <Donald@dontdoithere.com
wrote:

[snip]

I hope your daughter_in_law is not like you.

Maybe there will be a chance to the next generation after all.

donald

[snip]

Why are leftist weenies so full of hate... and totally without a sense
of humor?

Overwhelmed by their own inadequacy?

...Jim Thompson

I'm pretty sure I meet your "leftist weenie" criteria, but none of the
above descriptions apply.

A more accurate question would be: why is Donald an asshole?

Cheers
Terry

Terry, I've never thought of you as a leftist weenie ;-)

...Jim Thompson

And this ex-Marine (<sigh> yeah, I know) fits a lot of them as well.

As Terry mentioned and I referred to in another post, you *do* tend to
draw

No I didnt.

that type of response.

Robert

Cheers
Terry

Sorry. I meant (read in your comment) draw the responses from assholes.

If you don't think you implied that then I apologize for speaking for you.

Robert

Jim Thompson · Feb 27, 2007

On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:21:19 +0000, Chris Jones
<lugnut808@nospam.yahoo.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On 27 Feb 2007 12:51:58 -0800, "Richard Henry" <pomerado@hotmail.com
wrote:

On Feb 27, 10:19 am, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-
Web-Site.com> wrote:
I'm looking for statistics that show what percentage of the population
is involved in each job type.

For instance, what percentage are electrical engineers, what
percentage are working as store clerks, what percentage are burger
flippers, etc.

I have surfed myself into all kinds of crap, but not what I want.

Suggestions?
Something for the newspaper column?

Where you should go for the data will depend on what conclusion you
are trying to justify.

The column will address a local controversy about how much math should
be offered at the High School level.

My suspicions are that very few High School graduates need much more
than how to make change.

But I was looking for statistics... for example, what percentage of
the population actually need Algebra? Geometry? Calculus?

I'm of the old old school... highest math in High School was Solid
Geometry, but I did just ducky at MIT... 5 semesters of Calculus (thru
Tensors) ;-)

My argument is that we don't need more math topics, we need more math
intensity... practice makes perfect.

Pick any kid on the street and ask them to answer...

1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + 1/6 = ?

My bet is most kids AND adults can't solve it without a calculator :-(

...Jim Thompson

I don't think that the manipulation of figures is as important as the
understanding of mathematical concepts.

That's where you and I disagree mightily. There is no "partial
credit" in the real world ;-)

Whilst they may never need to do any actual calculus or even algebra, the
idea of what it means for one thing to be proportional to another thing, or
the idea of exponential growth, or derivatives or integrals (not
manipulating the symbols, but the concept) is essential if they are to be
able to properly scrutinise the policies of the various politicians that
they will elect, and to keep themselves out of debt (e.g. compound interest
etc.) E.g. I would not generally vote for someone who proposed benefit
laws such that the derivative of total income with respect to hours worked
can ever be negative for a portion of the population. I'd like other
voters to understand that idea too - not with the fancy words but rather
the idea. Some people will figure that out without having been exposed to
the mathematical concept of derivatives, but when the politicians are
trying to disguise the outcome and motivation of their policies, the voters
need all the analytical skills they can get.

Now certainly a lot of people in influential positions would not stand to
gain from having a population with a better understanding of these
concepts, and to some people it would be better if the average citizen only
knew the minimum necessary in order to consume, but I have higher hopes for
the world than that.

Chris

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Rich Grise · Feb 28, 2007

On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:21:19 +0000, Chris Jones wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
.....
Pick any kid on the street and ask them to answer...

1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + 1/6 = ?

My bet is most kids AND adults can't solve it without a calculator :-(

I don't think that the manipulation of figures is as important as the
understanding of mathematical concepts.

Speaking of this, there's a pretty cool show on PBS, called "Cyberchase".
It seems to be targeted at pre-schoolers:
http://pbskids.org/cyberchase/basic.html

These three kids go on adventures in "Cyber Space", where their mission
is to rescue Mother Board from the machinations of The Hacker, voiced
by Christopher Lloyd; the kids have a cyber-partner, called Digit, who's
kind of a robot bird, voiced by Gilbert Gottfried.

Anyway, in these kids' adventures, they're confronted by various simple
math problems - it's edjamacashunal without letting the kids know that
they're being taught stuff. That is, nobody says, "It's a math problem",
but "we have to figure out how to use these things (there's always
exactly the right materials lying about) to get to our goal", as it were.
And each episode is kind of devoted to one or more basic concepts, like
symmetry, or multiplication or division, and some geometry "Wow! The
angle when it bounces off is the same angle that the puck hit the wall
at!" and _use_ this new knowledge to accomplish their larger mission.

And heck, I even like watching it myself - maybe that's just my Inner
Child, but when I think of kids watching a cartoon show and learning stuff
by accident, I almost emote.

Maybe call it "Stealth Educational TeeVee". ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

Joel Kolstad · Feb 28, 2007

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:21:19 +0000, Chris Jones
You are indeed a dreamer. Go into Fry's Electronics. Examine the IQ
of the check-out staff. Then tell me if these people should even be
allowed to vote ;-)

When I was a kid the local Radio Shack was generally staffed by "long time"
employees who didn't necessarily know much about electronics, but they did
know their stock quite well, and college kids in electrical engineering.

These days it's just like Fry's... plenty of high-school and college kids, but
generally not interested in electronics and ill-informed about their stock.
Occasionally you find one who's really into, say, PC gaming, though, and at
least could tell you what a decent motherboard or video card is.

JeffM · Mar 14, 2007

Dumb_Blonde wrote:

Thank you in advance for your time.

Invest some of your own time and learn how to post to Usenet.
(This is NOT Google Groups.)

Pick ONE group and post your question there.

If you are a particularly selfish person (it is obvious that you ARE),
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?filter=0&enc_author=oOmS7BQAAABpW4M1S4hLoUH6Iic0zpFLOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A&scoring=d
when you post to multiple Usenet groups with the SAME question,
use the second-least obnoxious way to post:
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:qHhBKJ-sXKYJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-post+adequately.answered+corrected+with.commas+individually

Joerg · Apr 22, 2007

joseph2k wrote:

Joerg wrote:

Chuck Harris wrote:

Joerg wrote:

Chuck Harris wrote:

A modern diesel, with a catalytic converter, is actually cleaner
emissions wise
than the the spark ignition engines used in buses running on LPG, or
CNG.

The efficiency of a modern computer controlled diesel engine runs
rings around any
sort of S-I engine, LPG, gasoline, or CNG.

So why can't they figure out how to build non-smoking school buses?

None of our school buses smoke. Perhaps your local bus barn is using
old worn out buses?

Nope, except for some old ones (the hump-back variety) they look new.
Some of them brand-new. Actually, the really old ones tend to smoke less.

Now that sounds like lowest price and really old, out of date, contract
requirements. Some government agencies respond to being forced to use
lowest bid price contracting, by using "guilding the lily" type
requirements / specifications. Some other agencies just put up with crap
purchases. Others do other things.

Many of them (Thomas brand) look like they can't be older than a few
years. Yet they belch plumes of soot. The drill here is: If you just
washed your car and a school bus approaches an intersection before you,
stop and pretend you have to wait for someone. Until it's gone.

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http://www.analogconsultants.com

Hal Murray · Apr 22, 2007

Many of them (Thomas brand) look like they can't be older than a few
years. Yet they belch plumes of soot. The drill here is: If you just
washed your car and a school bus approaches an intersection before you,
stop and pretend you have to wait for someone. Until it's gone.

It might be interesting to call your school management types
and see if they have a good story. Then call the pollution
people and see what they say.

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These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam.

JeffM · May 10, 2007

tonychiu06@ gmail.com wrote:

Anyone can give me some ideas as how
to locate the distributors or agents?

Your MULTI-POSTED question
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?filter=0&enc_author=4E-LZBQAAAA4XsYe8oOIMrbKrzZEE5n1OPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A&scoring=d
is inappropriate in EVERY Usenet group
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:3uMiDBcerS8J:en.wikilib.com/wiki/Usenet+follow-Usenet-customs-and-*-rules+*-a-service-for-*-*-*-*+hide-the-fact-*-*-*-they-are-*-on-Usenet+concerns-*-*-*-*-about-the-Google-interface+what.is.wrong+*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-is-now-legendary+*-*-savvy+Google-cannot-muster-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*+*-*-policed&strip=1
where you posted it
as well as in the Google group adsense-help-basics.

**Marketplace** questions belong in a group
with *marketplace* or *business* in its name.

Google is your friend.
http://www.google.com/search?q=National.Association.of.Electrical.Distributors

Eeyore · May 21, 2007

Much more important !

Graham

Paul E. Schoen · May 21, 2007

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4650D952.D0837E49@hotmail.com...

Much more important !

Graham

Weren't they were supposed to arrive last year on the Apocalyptic date
6/6/6?

I graduated HS on 6/6/66. Happy Birthday!

Paul

Donald · May 21, 2007

Antoll MA wrote:

June 6, World Contact with aliens
http://www.antollma.info/spip.php?rubrique190

6 Juin, Contact Mondial avec les Extraterrestres
http://www.antollma.info/spip.php?rubrique188

6 Giugno , Contatti Mondiali con gli Extraterrestri
http://www.antollma.info/spip.php?rubrique192

6 Juni, Weltweiter Kontakt mit den außerirdischen
http://www.antollma.info/spip.php?rubrique189

6 de Junio, Contacto Mundial con los Extraterrestres
http://www.antollma.info/spip.php?rubrique191

Another set of "wish there were a better place then here" types.

To all of you out there "get a life"

donald

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