EAGLE Netlist conversion

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jim Thompson wrote:

"N's" is, "A neat kitchen is a sign of a deranged mind" ;-)

"Today's Menu, Choice of two: Take it, or leave it."

Also... "I'm allergic to mornings"

"And afternoons give me a rash" ;-)

Mine is... "Work is best viewed from a distance" ;-)

A clean bench is a sure sign of impending downsizing."

Over my office door is a carved wooden plaque... "Some days you eat
the bear, some days the bear eats you".

"We all have our bears to cross!"

And, of course there's, " Insanity is hereditary... you catch it from
your kids" ;-)

"Get even! Spoil the grand kids early, and often!" ;-)

And seen around here on the bumpers of RV/motor-homes... "I'm spending
my children's inheritance".

That one is all over the place, around here. Mostly from "The
Villages".


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Dr. Anton T. Squeegee]

In article <82snr2hlscbdni6umfsdcot7s1m28kpo87@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com (known to some as Jim Thompson)
scribed...

Went into PC Club today to pick up some more RAM.

They told me that they would have Laptops available with XP for
another month.

That's OK... Copies of Windows 2000 Pro are still readily available
on Greed-bay.

Keep the peace(es).



--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR)
http://www.bluefeathertech.com -- kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t calm
"Salvadore Dali's computer has surreal ports..."

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (28 Jan 2007 06:04:17 GMT) it happened jasen
<jasen@free.net.nz> wrote in <ephed1$ksq$1@jasen.is-a-geek.org>:

On 2007-01-24, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

In a bit of a thread hijack, how good is Wine with odd legacy hardware?

It doesn't do harware at all, all it does is convert (some) windows software
into linux software.

This is not completely correct, read the wine myth FAQ.
http://www.winehq.org/site/myths

Interesting, but I didn't notice that point being addressed.

windows->linux
It specifically mentions other OSses like BSD etc
Also 'convert into' is the vaguest formulation of what it does I
have seen so far.
I think one can say it is pretty much a windows clone using Unix for
the IO.
(Now somebody will argue with ta).
So let's refer to the description on their site.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:54:07 -0800) it happened Dr. Anton T.
Squeegee <SpammersBlow@dev.null> wrote in
<MPG.2025f678b68412b598971c@192.168.42.197>:

In article <82snr2hlscbdni6umfsdcot7s1m28kpo87@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com (known to some as Jim Thompson)
scribed...

Went into PC Club today to pick up some more RAM.

They told me that they would have Laptops available with XP for
another month.

That's OK... Copies of Windows 2000 Pro are still readily available
on Greed-bay.

Keep the peace(es).

DRDOS-7.2 is out too, for free.
LOL

 

[colin]

"Dr. Anton T. Squeegee" <SpammersBlow@dev.null> wrote in message
news:MPG.2025f678b68412b598971c@192.168.42.197...

In article <82snr2hlscbdni6umfsdcot7s1m28kpo87@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com (known to some as Jim Thompson)
scribed...

Went into PC Club today to pick up some more RAM.

They told me that they would have Laptops available with XP for
another month.

That's OK... Copies of Windows 2000 Pro are still readily available
on Greed-bay.

open source win xp clone :-
http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html

Colin =^.^=

 

[Joerg]

jasen wrote:

On 2007-01-22, Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:


Some of my filter design software doesn't come any other way than DOS.
Never had any problems running it all w/o a clean DOS boot. The only
catches are the occasional "speed overruns", IOW the program relied on
some DOS timers or whatever to flag a status but now it blazes by so
fast that I can't see what the flags read. And the calc speed of those
old programs on new PCs is phenomenal compared to the early 90's.


the timer (0x40:0x1c) is typically well emulated, code that uses timing
loops, however, will fail miserably as processors are now 1000 times
faster than they were in the 80s

what software is giving you grief?

Don't remember. As much as I do remember it was WDF filter design
routines from Texas Instruments. But AFAIR I found a "fix" on the web to
recompile in a way that the main program didn't use fixed timing
intervals anymore and that made it work. With the Mildenberger WDF
program I still have the issue that some warnings show up for about
100msec and I have to repeat the run several times, reading one word per
"flash" to make out what it says.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

 

[Joerg]

Joel Kolstad wrote:

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:VaOuh.38130$Gr2.22828@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net...

Did I mention that we do not own a DVD player at home and that one can
live just fine without it?


I'll ship you one for free if you'd like, Joerg! Just e-mail me your
address...

Thanks, Joel. But we wouldn't use it at all

There's nothing wrong with keeping to the technology you already have and
enjoy, although I would suggest that sometimes you may not appreciate newer
technology until you've actually sat down and used it for awhile. There is
a perceptible, positive difference between, e.g., a 1080p big-screen TV and
your 25" analog clunker, ...

True, but we only watch the evening news. And even those only up to the
weather forecast. TV doesn't mean much for us.

...while I'd buy that heating your office with wood is
perhaps actually a little nicer than heating with electricity or gas.

No rushing air, much healthier IMHO.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

 

[Joel Kolstad]

"colin" <no.spam.for.me@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
newsB%uh.16978$8j7.2259@newsfe1-

open source win xp clone :-
http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html

Cool project, I hadn't heard of it!

I really can't imagine that they'll ever be able to "keep up" with
Microsoft, though, when it's all volunteers?

I also wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft started adding, e.g., encryption
to parts of the OS to make it much more difficult to reverse-engineer if
ReactOS ever did become a "threat." They'd just say it's in the name of
protecting against virii or something, of course!

 

[Robert Latest]

["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.design.]
Joerg wrote:

...while I'd buy that heating your office with wood is
perhaps actually a little nicer than heating with electricity or gas.


No rushing air, much healthier IMHO.

The primary heat source doesn't make a difference to the helthiness of room
climate. Those European-style water-heated radiators make a nice heating, no
matter how the water gets hot (I'm saying European-style because all I've
ever seen in the US were those AC ducts used for both heating and cooling -
quite unpleasant, actually).

robert

 

[colin]

"Joel Kolstad" <JKolstad71HatesSpam@Yahoo.Com> wrote in message
news:12rpv104vfng878@corp.supernews.com...

"colin" <no.spam.for.me@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
newsB%uh.16978$8j7.2259@newsfe1-
open source win xp clone :-
http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html

Cool project, I hadn't heard of it!

I really can't imagine that they'll ever be able to "keep up" with
Microsoft, though, when it's all volunteers?

I also wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft started adding, e.g., encryption
to parts of the OS to make it much more difficult to reverse-engineer if
ReactOS ever did become a "threat." They'd just say it's in the name of
protecting against virii or something, of course!

Yes its just at the alpha stage now, although I might well try it out,
I dont see how it is going to be so hard to keep up at least not with winxp,
MS have brought out 3 OS in the last 9 years,
the time taken has been longer for each one,
as for reverse engineering, you just have to know the API that is available
to software apps.

If MS try and push out ALL the competition by making it a totaly closed and
encrypted environment
I would gues they would come under realy heavy fire from the anti monopoply
type institutions,
they are already in trouble as it is and have failed to comply with previous
rulings,
there was an article posted about the EU rulings wich are not being met,
vista apears to totaly disregard these too,
so we wil have to see what happens.

To totaly encrypt it would need a processor with internal encryption.
even so, if the processor can decrypt it, then whats to stop an emulator
from doing the same thing.

even so, it doesnt have to be re written for each new OS, wich MS apear to
be doing,
most apps wont have significant changes due to vista,
and I would be surprised if many apps no longer run on winxp for a long
time.

Directx is probably the most difficult thing to keep up with.
it maybe that only microsoft's media player will be needing the most up to
date version.

Colin =^.^=

 

[Chuck Harris]

colin wrote:

Yes its just at the alpha stage now, although I might well try it out,
I dont see how it is going to be so hard to keep up at least not with winxp,
MS have brought out 3 OS in the last 9 years,
the time taken has been longer for each one,
as for reverse engineering, you just have to know the API that is available
to software apps.

If MS try and push out ALL the competition by making it a totaly closed and
encrypted environment
I would gues they would come under realy heavy fire from the anti monopoply
type institutions,
they are already in trouble as it is and have failed to comply with previous
rulings,
there was an article posted about the EU rulings wich are not being met,
vista apears to totaly disregard these too,
so we wil have to see what happens.

Microsloth's new trick is the software patent system. They are doing
everything they can to make sure that all of the unique aspects of Vista are
covered by software patents. File formats, compression algorithms, FAT,
the system for handling extended file names...

-Chuck

 

[Charles Schuler]

Microsloth's new trick is the software patent system. They are doing
everything they can to make sure that all of the unique aspects of Vista
are
covered by software patents. File formats, compression algorithms, FAT,
the system for handling extended file names...

Last November, Microsoft and Novell jumped into a shot-gun marriage (over
SUSE Linux) with a 5-year patent agreement that is suspicious, to say the
least. Lawyers continue to cripple this industry, as they have others.

 

[Richard The Dreaded Liber]

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:54:07 -0800, Dr.Anton wrote:

In article <82snr2hlscbdni6umfsdcot7s1m28kpo87@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com (known to some as Jim Thompson)
scribed...

Went into PC Club today to pick up some more RAM.

They told me that they would have Laptops available with XP for
another month.

That's OK... Copies of Windows 2000 Pro are still readily available
on Greed-bay.

How long would it take them to track me down and put me in an iron cage
if I put an ISO image of my W2K pro on my website? ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Charles Schuler" <charleschuler@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:B6WdnTgfHbjKFCPYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com...

Microsloth's new trick is the software patent system. They are doing
everything they can to make sure that all of the unique aspects of Vista
are
covered by software patents. File formats, compression algorithms, FAT,
the system for handling extended file names...

Last November, Microsoft and Novell jumped into a shot-gun marriage (over
SUSE Linux) with a 5-year patent agreement that is suspicious, to say the
least. Lawyers continue to cripple this industry, as they have others.

http://publicaddress.net/default,3887.sm#post3887

Land-grab in the Magic Kingdom | Jan 30, 2007 09:10

If you follow these issues, you will doubtless be familiar with the US Sonny
Bono Copyright Term Extension Act, which saw the Walt Disney Company
successfully lobby for a law that prevented various of its works coming out
of copyright. You probably are not aware that earlier this month Disney
applied to the Intellectual Property Office of New Zealand for sweeping
trade mark protection around works that Disney did not create. <<<<<<<<<<<<<

The upshot of the Copyright Term Extension Act - dubbed by various wags the
Mickey Mouse Protection Act - was that Mickey Mouse, whose copyright
protection had been due to expire in 2003 (the 75th anniversary of Steamboat
Willie), was placed back under protection until at least 2019, along with
Donald Duck, Pluto and the rest of the gang. In the process, tens of
thousands of works were prevented from entering the public domain.

You might argue - as Disney did - that people are living longer these days,
and Disney deserved longer protection for its own creations. But what about
other people's creations?

Disney's application to IPONZ for a trade mark on Alice in Wonderland. The
specification of goods and services for which trade mark protection is
sought is very lengthy: from furniture to food, clothing to CDs.

You may be astonished at the breadth of the application being lodged by a
company that has done no more, in this case, than produce adaptations of
classic works of children's literature. Ditto for Snow White, Peter Pan,
Pinocchio and a list of characters from those works.

This is not trivial. It would be understandable for Disney to try and
protect its interpretations of existing characters, but its application for
so-called "word marks" implies something much more than that: it implies
exclusive rights to use all those characters. There have been at least 14
English-language films based on Carlo Collodi's 1883 novel The Adventures of
Pinocchio (which itself drew on classical sources), and many more in other
languages. If Disney was to obtain such trade marks (which cover "motion
picture films"), would it then become impossible to make - or at least
market - another one without Disney's permission? Would it be a copyright
lockout via the back door?

Fortunately, the claims are still under examination and it appears that
IPONZ won't simply wave the rubber stamp. Disney is being asked to prove its
original rights in the characters and their names. One would hope that
Disney is not allowed to annex stories that are out of copyright (in some
cases, that's precisely why Disney was able to make movies of them) merely
because it adapted them. That would be creepy.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Richard The Dreaded Libertarian" <null@example.net> wrote in message
newsan.2007.01.30.02.06.57.726048@example.net...

How long would it take them to track me down and put me in an iron cage
if I put an ISO image of my W2K pro on my website? ;-)

Why bother? By now you can probably D/L Vista from Gnutella, let alone older
software. But on a website you can expect Bill to send in the leg breakers
in a week or two.


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[petrus bitbyter]

"Richard The Dreaded Libertarian" <null@example.net> schreef in bericht
newsan.2007.01.30.02.06.57.726048@example.net...

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:54:07 -0800, Dr.Anton wrote:
In article <82snr2hlscbdni6umfsdcot7s1m28kpo87@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com (known to some as Jim Thompson)
scribed...

Went into PC Club today to pick up some more RAM.

They told me that they would have Laptops available with XP for
another month.

That's OK... Copies of Windows 2000 Pro are still readily available
on Greed-bay.


How long would it take them to track me down and put me in an iron cage
if I put an ISO image of my W2K pro on my website? ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

Don't know. But there is no need as it should be easy to find. A colleague
handed me two different downloads as a prove when I had claimed not to
believe that she could find it. (I have no use for it at the moment, but you
never can tell. I will for sure have no pity on old uncle Billy whenever
I'll use it.)

petrus bitbyter

 

[petrus bitbyter]

"Charles Schuler" <charleschuler@comcast.net> schreef in bericht
news:B6WdnTgfHbjKFCPYnZ2dnUVZ_oWdnZ2d@comcast.com...

Microsloth's new trick is the software patent system. They are doing
everything they can to make sure that all of the unique aspects of Vista
are
covered by software patents. File formats, compression algorithms, FAT,
the system for handling extended file names...

Last November, Microsoft and Novell jumped into a shot-gun marriage (over
SUSE Linux) with a 5-year patent agreement that is suspicious, to say the
least. Lawyers continue to cripple this industry, as they have others.

Remembers me on the days of yore when Big Blue was the only one that could
sell "computers" and the words "floppy disk" were patented. I expect old
uncle Billies Redmond firm will go the same way. There will not only be
legal problems that cannot be solved with large amounts of money. Customers
will "vote with their wallets" when MS continues to sell less for more. It
will take some time and they will stay in the software business as their
business is much better then their software but they will not keep their
current monopoly forever.

petrus bitbyter

 

[SioL]

"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:h8yvh.7242$Y6.1222@edtnps89...

Why bother? By now you can probably D/L Vista from Gnutella, let alone older software.

Vista (final) was available at least a month ago from P2P networks. Can't imagine
why one would download or even buy that crap, though.

SioL

 

[MassiveProng]

On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:06:40 GMT, Richard The Dreaded Libertarian
<null@example.net> Gave us:

On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 23:54:07 -0800, Dr.Anton wrote:
In article <82snr2hlscbdni6umfsdcot7s1m28kpo87@4ax.com>, To-Email-Use-
The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com (known to some as Jim Thompson)
scribed...

Went into PC Club today to pick up some more RAM.

They told me that they would have Laptops available with XP for
another month.

That's OK... Copies of Windows 2000 Pro are still readily available
on Greed-bay.


How long would it take them to track me down and put me in an iron cage
if I put an ISO image of my W2K pro on my website? ;-)

You say some of the most retard crap.

The answer is that they would nab your pathetic as pretty damned
quick.

It isn't the ISO that is important. It is having a unique
installation key. Otherwise your online updating, and subsequently
your machine are fucked. D'OH!

 

[Charles Schuler]

It isn't the ISO that is important. It is having a unique
installation key. Otherwise your online updating, and subsequently
your machine are fucked. D'OH!

There are three distinct classes of home computer users (the clueless, the
honest and the cheaters):

1/ The clueless do whatever they are told to do.
2/ The honest do whatever they feel is morally and legally correct.
3/ The cheaters do whatever they can get away with, and often have unlimited
powers of rationalization.