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George Herold
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On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:47:42 PM UTC-4, jeroen Belleman wrote:
George H.
George H.
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Chris Ahlstrom
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rickman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
LOL
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(What Jove may do, is not permitted to a cow.)
LOL
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(What Jove may do, is not permitted to a cow.)
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Chris Ahlstrom
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John Larkin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
Speaking of lazy and incompetent, couldn't you be arsed to snip
most of the article quote?
I saw a sticker the other day "My dog is smarter than our President".
I wanted to ask him if that was from the Bush (Dubya) era.
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It is only people of small moral stature who have to stand on their dignity.
Speaking of lazy and incompetent, couldn't you be arsed to snip
most of the article quote?
I saw a sticker the other day "My dog is smarter than our President".
I wanted to ask him if that was from the Bush (Dubya) era.
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It is only people of small moral stature who have to stand on their dignity.
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Bill Sloman
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On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 23:58:41 UTC+10, David Brown wrote:
<snip>
As I said, I've got Thunderbird and have used it to post stuff from time to time. I'll take a look at news.eternal-september.org .
Well, I do go to the trouble of editing out the extra blank lines it
insists on inserting when I use it to respond to a message, so I'm not
entirely inconsiderate. I'm clearly not using Google.groups out of
ignorance. As for rudeness - I'm not posting the way
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno would like me to post, but he hasn't been
all that polite in the way he makes the argument, and neither have you.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
<snip>
As I said, I've got Thunderbird and have used it to post stuff from time to time. I'll take a look at news.eternal-september.org .
Well, I do go to the trouble of editing out the extra blank lines it
insists on inserting when I use it to respond to a message, so I'm not
entirely inconsiderate. I'm clearly not using Google.groups out of
ignorance. As for rudeness - I'm not posting the way
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno would like me to post, but he hasn't been
all that polite in the way he makes the argument, and neither have you.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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David Brown
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On 17/09/14 09:14, Bill Sloman wrote:
Actually, a /real/ newsreader is equally cheap and far more convenient
for accessing Usenet groups that you frequent. Google groups posting
interface is the worst thing that ever happened to Usenet. Please change.
Actually, a /real/ newsreader is equally cheap and far more convenient
for accessing Usenet groups that you frequent. Google groups posting
interface is the worst thing that ever happened to Usenet. Please change.
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David Brown
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On 17/09/14 03:32, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
Please don't.
And don't give up on the day job.
Please don't.
And don't give up on the day job.
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JW
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 04:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@gmail.com> wrote in Message id:
<9ed764c6-a2ea-4022-aea1-b73280bc9df7@googlegroups.com>:
[...]
These are free.
http://www.eternal-september.org/
www.aioe.org (Website down at the moment for some reason.)
http://albasani.net/index.html.en
<bill.sloman@gmail.com> wrote in Message id:
<9ed764c6-a2ea-4022-aea1-b73280bc9df7@googlegroups.com>:
[...]
These are free.
http://www.eternal-september.org/
www.aioe.org (Website down at the moment for some reason.)
http://albasani.net/index.html.en
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David Brown
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On 17/09/14 13:44, Bill Sloman wrote:
Lots of people (including me) use news.eternal-september.org, which is
free. Thunderbird is free, and works on all platforms. There is no
excuse for not using a proper newsreader and newsserver. GG posters
annoy many people, and its use automatically marks people as being
inconsiderate, rude and ignorant. Of course, in this group,
inconsiderate rude and ignorant is the norm - and regulars compete in
new ways to display these characteristics. But GG users get a free
head-start.
Lots of people (including me) use news.eternal-september.org, which is
free. Thunderbird is free, and works on all platforms. There is no
excuse for not using a proper newsreader and newsserver. GG posters
annoy many people, and its use automatically marks people as being
inconsiderate, rude and ignorant. Of course, in this group,
inconsiderate rude and ignorant is the norm - and regulars compete in
new ways to display these characteristics. But GG users get a free
head-start.
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whit3rd
Guest
On Monday, September 15, 2014 12:23:02 PM UTC-7, NoNoSpa...@Null.net wrote:
or two at a time) are useful.
> I do not use the solderless breadboards, because of the element to element capacitance, and because the reliability of any given connection is horribly bad.
One can always spread the leads out: TO-92 transistor would plug in
as C-<void>-B-E or you can ground (or emitter-bond) that <void> intermediate, to control
Miller capacitance. And, if you get some silver-plated wire of the right
diameter (0.020 inch, 24 gage is good), it's a bit better than dismal
at making connections.
On an educational note, some lessons on connector reliability and no-clean
flux are easily learned with this wiring scheme...
Yeah, the Radio Shack breadboards (and a hacksaw so I can use 'em up an inch
or two at a time) are useful.
> I do not use the solderless breadboards, because of the element to element capacitance, and because the reliability of any given connection is horribly bad.
One can always spread the leads out: TO-92 transistor would plug in
as C-<void>-B-E or you can ground (or emitter-bond) that <void> intermediate, to control
Miller capacitance. And, if you get some silver-plated wire of the right
diameter (0.020 inch, 24 gage is good), it's a bit better than dismal
at making connections.
On an educational note, some lessons on connector reliability and no-clean
flux are easily learned with this wiring scheme...
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whit3rd
Guest
On Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:47:42 PM UTC-7, jeroen Belleman wrote:
Belden calls their solder-through wire "Beldsol"; a hot iron
makes the (polyester?) coating into flux.
There's a dead-bug system, with Beldsol wire spooled from a wire-wrap
type handtool, that works wonderfully well: Vector called it "solder-wrap".
I made my own handtools when the commercial one broke... using a
sewing machine bobbin for the feed, and hypodermic-style SS tube
(deburred) for the wire-feed.
Belden calls their solder-through wire "Beldsol"; a hot iron
makes the (polyester?) coating into flux.
There's a dead-bug system, with Beldsol wire spooled from a wire-wrap
type handtool, that works wonderfully well: Vector called it "solder-wrap".
I made my own handtools when the commercial one broke... using a
sewing machine bobbin for the feed, and hypodermic-style SS tube
(deburred) for the wire-feed.
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John S
Guest
On 9/17/2014 9:27 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
Please do, Bill. I enjoy reading your posts otherwise.
You are correct about him. And, I know your are not being inconsiderate.
But, please make an effort to eliminate the annoying chaff surrounding
the Google thing. It would be appreciated by me and, apparently others.
I, by the way, am using Thunderbird and Eternal September.
Cheers.
Please do, Bill. I enjoy reading your posts otherwise.
You are correct about him. And, I know your are not being inconsiderate.
But, please make an effort to eliminate the annoying chaff surrounding
the Google thing. It would be appreciated by me and, apparently others.
I, by the way, am using Thunderbird and Eternal September.
Cheers.
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Bill Sloman
Guest
On 18/09/2014 12:52 AM, John S wrote:
<snip>
So why did you say that using Google Groups automatically marks people
as being inconsiderate rude and ignorant?
And this is being posted using Thunderbird via Eternal September.
The Google Groups interface still provides better access to what's
been posted.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
<snip>
So why did you say that using Google Groups automatically marks people
as being inconsiderate rude and ignorant?
And this is being posted using Thunderbird via Eternal September.
The Google Groups interface still provides better access to what's
been posted.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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George Herold
Guest
On Wednesday, September 17, 2014 2:48:00 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
I sometimes will use wire wrap sockets (with DIP IC's) but over copper clad and use solder to connect. The wire leads are nice and stiff. I bend little feet on the ones that get grounded and plunk them down on the copper clad first. The advantage is that I can try swapping IC's.. and also if the magic smoke comes out of one it's easy to replace. (after fixing circuit boo boo.) But I didn't invent this.. I read of it somewhere??
George H.
I sometimes will use wire wrap sockets (with DIP IC's) but over copper clad and use solder to connect. The wire leads are nice and stiff. I bend little feet on the ones that get grounded and plunk them down on the copper clad first. The advantage is that I can try swapping IC's.. and also if the magic smoke comes out of one it's easy to replace. (after fixing circuit boo boo.) But I didn't invent this.. I read of it somewhere??
George H.
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John S
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On 9/17/2014 10:17 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
I did not post that. I apologize if I somehow referenced the wrong post.
And, looks great!
I don't have trouble like that. Perhaps it is a lack of familiarity on
your part? In any case, you must be the judge of that. Please try it a
bit longer. If you get too frustrated, then give up. Nobody will be
worse off.
By the way, I think I restored the header to the OP's. Just for a test.
Again, cheers.
I did not post that. I apologize if I somehow referenced the wrong post.
And, looks great!
I don't have trouble like that. Perhaps it is a lack of familiarity on
your part? In any case, you must be the judge of that. Please try it a
bit longer. If you get too frustrated, then give up. Nobody will be
worse off.
By the way, I think I restored the header to the OP's. Just for a test.
Again, cheers.
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Jim Thompson
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 00:01:03 -0700, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
<DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote:
Slowman is living proof that a PhD does not guarantee intelligence...
but maybe ensures early senility.
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
<DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote:
Slowman is living proof that a PhD does not guarantee intelligence...
but maybe ensures early senility.
...Jim Thompson
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| Analog Innovations | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: skypeanalog | |
| Voice
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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John Larkin
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 08:57:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Doing nothing for a decade or two causes senility, too.
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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:
Doing nothing for a decade or two causes senility, too.
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jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
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John S
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On 9/17/2014 10:57 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
You mean like you? Why are you picking a fight?
You mean like you? Why are you picking a fight?
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John Larkin
Guest
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 06:13:13 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
My computer has those newfangled things called "scroll bars."
Ask the dog?
O pulled all the troops out of Iraq to guarantee that the JV team
would invite them back. Sure hope those boots on the ground don't
disturb his golf game.
(He's the first President to read his daily security briefings, rather
than actually attend them. Any bets on whether he actually read them?)
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
<OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
My computer has those newfangled things called "scroll bars."
Ask the dog?
O pulled all the troops out of Iraq to guarantee that the JV team
would invite them back. Sure hope those boots on the ground don't
disturb his golf game.
(He's the first President to read his daily security briefings, rather
than actually attend them. Any bets on whether he actually read them?)
--
John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com
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Spehro Pefhany
Guest
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 07:05:12 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
<gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
Occasionally I do prototypes with AWG 30 magnet wire and perf board.
Most recently with a tiny QFN thing that I wanted to test out.
It's pretty quick and they're fairly robust. The soldering iron
removes the insulation so it's guaranteed there are no nicks.
You can get little solder pots from China for about $20. I put a
thermocouple on one to set it up precisely for such purposes. I won't
let it run attended though. Oh, it's 240V if that matters.
Good ones (eg. Plato- (&American Beauty?)) are more expensive.
-sp
<gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:
Occasionally I do prototypes with AWG 30 magnet wire and perf board.
Most recently with a tiny QFN thing that I wanted to test out.
It's pretty quick and they're fairly robust. The soldering iron
removes the insulation so it's guaranteed there are no nicks.
You can get little solder pots from China for about $20. I put a
thermocouple on one to set it up precisely for such purposes. I won't
let it run attended though. Oh, it's 240V if that matters.
Good ones (eg. Plato- (&American Beauty?)) are more expensive.
-sp
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David Brown
Guest
On 17/09/14 16:27, Bill Sloman wrote:
I'll agree that you seem to make more of an effort to conform to Usenet
standards than most GG users - so if I were actually "scoring" people
you'd come out well in comparison. But you would do even better without
GG - and it will save you a lot of effort along the way.
And yes, I am quite "to the point" regarding my dislike for GG - but I
don't think you can really compare my post to those of
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno !
I'll agree that you seem to make more of an effort to conform to Usenet
standards than most GG users - so if I were actually "scoring" people
you'd come out well in comparison. But you would do even better without
GG - and it will save you a lot of effort along the way.
And yes, I am quite "to the point" regarding my dislike for GG - but I
don't think you can really compare my post to those of
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno !