Driver to drive?

[Pomegranate Bastard]

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:58:02 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 9/17/2014 6:49 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:35:06 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> Gave us:

But here in the Internet
there are no social rules it seems... no, wait... I mean here in s.e.d.

Pretty goddamned punkish. You do not need to be cussin' asshole, to
be in the same boat.

We're ALL Bozos on this bus, pal, and you couldn't achieve escape
velocity if your life depended on it.

Well, it doesn't. But your soul does. You ain't 'all that', pops.

Wow, someone is a bit touchy, no?

Congratulations! You scored a 3'er. Not bad for a beginner!

 

[Pomegranate Bastard]

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 23:38:01 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:

On 9/17/2014 10:30 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:56:39 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> Gave us:

The funny part is that I can get you to continue this stupid
conversation as long as I like.


You keep mentally masturbating yourself there, child. It will not
gain you anything in the real world.

It is not going to help. And no... you do NOT control a goddamned
thing, you 11 year old maturity level dumbfuck.

You are no different, and are too stubborn and retarded to now admit
it, having been exposed, raw.

Oh lord. You really can't resist can you? I wonder if there is a
medical term for it?

She suffers badly from PMT.

 

[Don Kuenz]

John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> wrote:

On 9/18/2014 10:04 AM, John S wrote:
On 9/17/2014 10:55 PM, Davej wrote:
On Monday, September 15, 2014 2:03:36 PM UTC-5, Don Kuenz wrote:
Do you personally use a plastic solderless breadboard for your
prototypes?

I used one today. It came with an Arduino kit. They are total crap.
Don't use them unless you can tolerate bad connections and absurd
amounts of stray capacitance.


So far, I've not had any bad connections unless I push wires into the
holes that are too large.


I meant push wires/pins too large for the hole which may distort the
inner connection contacts such that they no longer make reliable
connection with smaller wires such as resistor leads.



I measure 2.8pF between columns. What do you consider "absurd
amounts of stray capacitance"?

That said, the experimenter must determine if the physical platform is
acceptable or not for his purposes.

In his book Pease notes that repeatedly pushing jumpers into a hole can
cause small pieces of solder to scrape off, pile up, and eventually
create a short. In the end a nylon breadboard can be used for audio
frequency prototypes as long as one keeps in mind all of its
shortcomings.

--
Don Kuenz

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 9/17/2014 10:36 PM, mpm wrote:

Somewhat off topic, but maybe someone here knows a "numerically inexpensive" way to do this:

I have (x,y,z) data - about 1.6 million points. (maybe more)

The (x,y) is somewhat regularly spaced already, but I want to resample this data so that the (x,y) values "snap" to a grid of my choosing. I don't mind interpolating the values where necessary, and I realize there are several methods to accomplish that.

What I want is a program that can input my original (x,y) data and output a reasonable approximation of that data snapped to what will ultimately be a lower density grid.

I thought about using Excel, but my version will not accept that many rows.
Also, after rounding, I would probably still have some duplicates to get rid of... which sounds like a real hassle in Excel.

I'm sure this problem has been beat to death already.
Will MatLab do it?
I thought Surfer would do it, but I either forgot how, or it just can't do it.

Thanks.
-mpm


Matlab/Octave should work.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 21:37:49 -0700, Kevin McMurtrie
<mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:

In article <n4vj1a5j0ag5v8rji03bii0huq57gv1up4@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

http://www.ims-resistors.com/B-Series-Final.pdf

http://www.ims-resistors.com/P-Series.pdf

Pyrolytic graphite tape is neat stuff too.

It's electrically conductive, isn't it?

We need diamond, preferably isotopically pure diamond.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[David Brown]

On 18/09/14 01:55, Bill Sloman wrote:

On 18/09/2014 1:52 AM, John S wrote:
On 9/17/2014 10:17 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 18/09/2014 12:52 AM, John S wrote:
On 9/17/2014 9:27 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 23:58:41 UTC+10, David Brown wrote:
On 17/09/14 13:44, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 21:23:29 UTC+10, David Brown
wrote:
On 17/09/14 09:14, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, 17 September 2014 17:01:03 UTC+10,
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:02:54 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us:

snip

I, by the way, am using Thunderbird and Eternal September.

And this is being posted using Thunderbird via Eternal September.

And, looks great!

The Google Groups interface still provides better access to what's
been posted.

I don't have trouble like that. Perhaps it is a lack of familiarity on
your part?

Don't be silly. When I last looked I was one of the more enthusiastic
posters to this group.

Thunderbird organises posts in the traditional way, and if you want to
check for up-dates on a thread that started a while ago, you have to
scroll up to the oldest surviving posting and click on it to see the
thread. The header is a high-lighted if there's been a new posting since
you last looked, but you have to scroll up to it to see that.

Google Groups sorts thread on the basis of the most recent posting,
so active threads are almost always available without you having to
scroll through a bunch of less active postings.

Thunderbird also sorts posts in threads, ordered by the most recent
posting. Personally, I navigate between unread posts using the space
bar - it shows more pages of the current post, and when that is done, it
moves on to the next unread post. "n" also jumps straight to the next
unread post. It is /so/ much faster and easier than using GG. (Though
GG is great for the occasional search through other groups or old archives.)

 

[David Brown]

On 18/09/14 03:52, rickman wrote:

On 9/17/2014 7:55 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 18/09/2014 1:52 AM, John S wrote:
On 9/17/2014 10:17 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On 18/09/2014 12:52 AM, John S wrote:

snip

I, by the way, am using Thunderbird and Eternal September.

And this is being posted using Thunderbird via Eternal September.

And, looks great!

The Google Groups interface still provides better access to what's
been posted.

I don't have trouble like that. Perhaps it is a lack of familiarity on
your part?

Don't be silly. When I last looked I was one of the more enthusiastic
posters to this group.

Thunderbird organises posts in the traditional way, and if you want to
check for up-dates on a thread that started a while ago, you have to
scroll up to the oldest surviving posting and click on it to see the
thread. The header is a high-lighted if there's been a new posting since
you last looked, but you have to scroll up to it to see that.

Google Groups sorts thread on the basis of the most recent posting,
so active threads are almost always available without you having to
scroll through a bunch of less active postings.

Have you actually used T-bird? Instead of criticizing it, maybe you
could ask for help with it?

Just click the threads icon at the top of that column to enable listing
by threads if you haven't already. Then click the date column to sort
the threads by the date of the most recent posting. You can click the
thread messaage which by default is the first and then hit 'N' to show
the next unread message in that thread. Or you can open the thread by
clicking arrow at the left of the subject and open the thread to search
manually.

I wouldn't bother using T-bird if it couldn't do this.

What I would love is for it to hide all the insulting, name calling,
profane and just plain stupid messages, but then s.e.d wouldn't have
much left would it?

In s.e.d., I often use "k" to kill a thread - either because it has
descended to the kindergarten level, or because it is a boring,
off-topic thread about things like LT Spice or amplifier design.

 

[John S]

On 9/17/2014 10:55 PM, Davej wrote:

On Monday, September 15, 2014 2:03:36 PM UTC-5, Don Kuenz wrote:
Do you personally use a plastic solderless breadboard for your
prototypes?

I used one today. It came with an Arduino kit. They are total crap.
Don't use them unless you can tolerate bad connections and absurd
amounts of stray capacitance.

So far, I've not had any bad connections unless I push wires into the
holes that are too large.

I measure 2.8pF between columns. What do you consider "absurd
amounts of stray capacitance"?

That said, the experimenter must determine if the physical platform is
acceptable or not for his purposes.

 

[John S]

On 9/18/2014 10:04 AM, John S wrote:

On 9/17/2014 10:55 PM, Davej wrote:
On Monday, September 15, 2014 2:03:36 PM UTC-5, Don Kuenz wrote:
Do you personally use a plastic solderless breadboard for your
prototypes?

I used one today. It came with an Arduino kit. They are total crap.
Don't use them unless you can tolerate bad connections and absurd
amounts of stray capacitance.


So far, I've not had any bad connections unless I push wires into the
holes that are too large.

I meant push wires/pins too large for the hole which may distort the
inner connection contacts such that they no longer make reliable
connection with smaller wires such as resistor leads.

I measure 2.8pF between columns. What do you consider "absurd
amounts of stray capacitance"?

That said, the experimenter must determine if the physical platform is
acceptable or not for his purposes.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On 18/09/2014 1:57 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 00:01:03 -0700, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:02:54 -0700 (PDT), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@gmail.com> Gave us:

Google doesn't like the non-alphabetic characters used in the original
subject line *you* posted - which makes you the absolute total retard, as
if we weren't aware of that already.


Google is NOT Usenet, SloTard.

Real Usenet news servers and NNTP systems have no problem.

That decidedly makes you the retard... again. As if you were ever
anything other.

Sloman is living proof that a PhD does not guarantee intelligence...
but maybe ensures early senility.

If Jim had ever bothered to get a Ph.D. he'd be aware of plenty of
better examples than me.

As far as ensuring early senility - the reverse seems to be true.
Getting a Ph.D. isn't a good as getting fluent in a second language for
delaying the onset of senile dementia, but - statistically speaking -
it does help.

Since Jim showed signs of dementia a few year ago - by reporting me to
the FBI as "dangerously anti-American" - he's probably left it too late
to get his own Ph.D. Something on "Redneck delusions" might still be
possible, with himself as the test-subject and investigator.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 09/18/2014 11:04 AM, John S wrote:

On 9/17/2014 10:55 PM, Davej wrote:
On Monday, September 15, 2014 2:03:36 PM UTC-5, Don Kuenz wrote:
Do you personally use a plastic solderless breadboard for your
prototypes?

I used one today. It came with an Arduino kit. They are total crap.
Don't use them unless you can tolerate bad connections and absurd
amounts of stray capacitance.


So far, I've not had any bad connections unless I push wires into the
holes that are too large.

I measure 2.8pF between columns. What do you consider "absurd
amounts of stray capacitance"?

2.8 pF is pretty large--with a 1M resistor, that puts the corner
frequency at 56.8 kHz, whereas with dead bug it'd be more like 0.12 pF,
i.e. 1.32 MHz. Which is one reason why the usual wisdom is never to use
those things above 50 kHz.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

 

[Bill Sloman]

On 18/09/2014 2:12 AM, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 06:13:13 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

John Larkin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:32:40 -0700, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote:

much much snippage

Good thing O is lazy and incompetent, otherwise he might be dangerous.

Speaking of lazy and incompetent, couldn't you be arsed to snip
most of the article quote?

My computer has those newfangled things called "scroll bars."

But who wants to even scroll through most of the rubbish that gets
posted here.

I saw a sticker the other day "My dog is smarter than our President".
I wanted to ask him if that was from the Bush (Dubya) era.

Ask the dog?

O pulled all the troops out of Iraq to guarantee that the JV team
would invite them back.

Not strictly accurate. He pulled them out because keeping them there was
expensive in political and economic terms. Leaving them there wouldn't
have made any difference to the Syrian civil war, which has a lot to do
with the rise of ISIS.

Sure hope those boots on the ground don't
disturb his golf game.

Why should they?

(He's the first President to read his daily security briefings, rather
than actually attend them. Any bets on whether he actually read them?)

Reading is quicker than listening, if you can read. Since Obama can also
write, he's probably over-qualified for the job.

JFK wrote a few books, or at least had them published under his name.
His family had enough money to buy good ghost-writers if they'd thought
it necessary. None of the other US presidents have been all that literate.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John S]

On 9/18/2014 10:11 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 09/18/2014 11:04 AM, John S wrote:
On 9/17/2014 10:55 PM, Davej wrote:
On Monday, September 15, 2014 2:03:36 PM UTC-5, Don Kuenz wrote:
Do you personally use a plastic solderless breadboard for your
prototypes?

I used one today. It came with an Arduino kit. They are total crap.
Don't use them unless you can tolerate bad connections and absurd
amounts of stray capacitance.


So far, I've not had any bad connections unless I push wires into the
holes that are too large.

I measure 2.8pF between columns. What do you consider "absurd
amounts of stray capacitance"?

2.8 pF is pretty large--with a 1M resistor, that puts the corner
frequency at 56.8 kHz, whereas with dead bug it'd be more like 0.12 pF,
i.e. 1.32 MHz. Which is one reason why the usual wisdom is never to use
those things above 50 kHz.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Phil, there is another world out there that does not do what you do, and
does not depend on the finesse of such things.

 

[MarkA]

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 01:29:19 +1000, Bill Sloman wrote:

On 18/09/2014 2:12 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 06:13:13 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom
OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

John Larkin wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:32:40 -0700, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote:

much much snippage

Good thing O is lazy and incompetent, otherwise he might be
dangerous.

Speaking of lazy and incompetent, couldn't you be arsed to snip most
of the article quote?

My computer has those newfangled things called "scroll bars."

But who wants to even scroll through most of the rubbish that gets
posted here.

I saw a sticker the other day "My dog is smarter than our President".
I wanted to ask him if that was from the Bush (Dubya) era.

Ask the dog?

O pulled all the troops out of Iraq to guarantee that the JV team would
invite them back.

Not strictly accurate. He pulled them out because keeping them there was
expensive in political and economic terms. Leaving them there wouldn't
have made any difference to the Syrian civil war, which has a lot to do
with the rise of ISIS.

.... not to mention the fact that GW had already set up a timeline with
the Iraqis for American troop withdrawl...

 

[MarkA]

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:08:03 -0700, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:

On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 12:34:05 -0500, Tim Wescott
seemywebsite@myfooter.really> Gave us:

On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:32:40 -0700, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:

drivel snipped

I could go on? but you get the idea.

If you play the record backwards for long enough, eventually you'll be
able to hear anything you want.


You should be with the basket weavers and thumb twiddlers, if you
actually think he has EVER been on the up and up, or that he has EVER
done a good job for us.

The gang problem in Chicago is the worst in the nation. HIS legacy.

When did the conversation switch to talking about Elliott Ness?

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 09/18/2014 11:38 AM, John S wrote:

On 9/18/2014 10:11 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 09/18/2014 11:04 AM, John S wrote:
On 9/17/2014 10:55 PM, Davej wrote:
On Monday, September 15, 2014 2:03:36 PM UTC-5, Don Kuenz wrote:
Do you personally use a plastic solderless breadboard for your
prototypes?

I used one today. It came with an Arduino kit. They are total crap.
Don't use them unless you can tolerate bad connections and absurd
amounts of stray capacitance.


So far, I've not had any bad connections unless I push wires into the
holes that are too large.

I measure 2.8pF between columns. What do you consider "absurd
amounts of stray capacitance"?

2.8 pF is pretty large--with a 1M resistor, that puts the corner
frequency at 56.8 kHz, whereas with dead bug it'd be more like 0.12 pF,
i.e. 1.32 MHz. Which is one reason why the usual wisdom is never to use
those things above 50 kHz.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Phil, there is another world out there that does not do what you do, and
does not depend on the finesse of such things.

Well, there are lots of audio folks and people who just want to blink
LEDs, if that's what you mean.

Sprinkling 3 pF and 20 nH randomly among adjacent pins of an IC can do
some pretty amusing things--for instance making a resonance at 70 MHz,
just the thing to put some nice Q ~= 10 ringing on a logic line driven
by 8 ohms.

So it isn't just bleeding edge analogue that has problems with those things.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

 

[Don Y]

On 9/18/2014 5:20 AM, Martin Brown wrote:

On 18/09/2014 11:36, Don Y wrote:
On 9/18/2014 1:02 AM, Martin Brown wrote:

The only caveat about treating it as an image interpolation problem is
that if you intend to for example Fourier transform the gridded data
later then you have to be very much more careful about how you
interpolate your randomly sampled data to produce uniform coverage on a
regular grid. Methods for doing this are published in the literature for
aperture synthesis radio astronomy and MRI imaging.

Yes. (generic) Images are resampled with a different set of
evaluation criteria. I offered the idea as a quickie way of
seeing if the results would be what was desired (by the OP).

[without having to write a bit of code and *test* that code...]

If *my* problem, I'd explore Mathematica's capabilities more
closely (delightful piece of code, that!)

I agree. Although for bigger datasets IDL is also worth considering
especially if you can get it on an academic license.

http://www.exelisvis.co.uk/ProductsServices/IDL.aspx

Such tools can be used for good or ill and I have seen some very good
data turned into appalling incomprehensible infographics by it too!

Not aware of that product. I've used MatLab, MathCAD and Mathematica
in the past and "settled" on Mathematica.

The problem with all of them is they aren't particularly intuitive
so, unless you use them "often", there is a start-up cost involved.

[I have learned to record command lines in my documentation so I
can quickly get back a particular result -- without having to
fumble around trying to remember syntax, optional arguments, etc.]

 

[John S]

On 9/18/2014 11:56 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 09/18/2014 11:38 AM, John S wrote:
On 9/18/2014 10:11 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 09/18/2014 11:04 AM, John S wrote:
On 9/17/2014 10:55 PM, Davej wrote:
On Monday, September 15, 2014 2:03:36 PM UTC-5, Don Kuenz wrote:
Do you personally use a plastic solderless breadboard for your
prototypes?

I used one today. It came with an Arduino kit. They are total crap.
Don't use them unless you can tolerate bad connections and absurd
amounts of stray capacitance.


So far, I've not had any bad connections unless I push wires into the
holes that are too large.

I measure 2.8pF between columns. What do you consider "absurd
amounts of stray capacitance"?

2.8 pF is pretty large--with a 1M resistor, that puts the corner
frequency at 56.8 kHz, whereas with dead bug it'd be more like 0.12 pF,
i.e. 1.32 MHz. Which is one reason why the usual wisdom is never to use
those things above 50 kHz.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Phil, there is another world out there that does not do what you do, and
does not depend on the finesse of such things.

Well, there are lots of audio folks and people who just want to blink
LEDs, if that's what you mean.

Sprinkling 3 pF and 20 nH randomly among adjacent pins of an IC can do
some pretty amusing things--for instance making a resonance at 70 MHz,
just the thing to put some nice Q ~= 10 ringing on a logic line driven
by 8 ohms.

So it isn't just bleeding edge analogue that has problems with those
things.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Phil, you are probably a genius. I think that may keep you from
understanding that there are methods and approaches that is beneath your
grasp. I am just tired of people knocking something that might be
misused and blaming it on the something. I have had great success with
the solderless breadboards and I have had failures as well. It was
educational and well worth the experience. Since then, I have learned to
use them when appropriate and not use them otherwise. Have you done the
same?

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 09/18/2014 02:07 PM, John S wrote:

On 9/18/2014 11:56 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 09/18/2014 11:38 AM, John S wrote:
On 9/18/2014 10:11 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 09/18/2014 11:04 AM, John S wrote:
On 9/17/2014 10:55 PM, Davej wrote:
On Monday, September 15, 2014 2:03:36 PM UTC-5, Don Kuenz wrote:
Do you personally use a plastic solderless breadboard for your
prototypes?

I used one today. It came with an Arduino kit. They are total crap.
Don't use them unless you can tolerate bad connections and absurd
amounts of stray capacitance.


So far, I've not had any bad connections unless I push wires into the
holes that are too large.

I measure 2.8pF between columns. What do you consider "absurd
amounts of stray capacitance"?

2.8 pF is pretty large--with a 1M resistor, that puts the corner
frequency at 56.8 kHz, whereas with dead bug it'd be more like 0.12 pF,
i.e. 1.32 MHz. Which is one reason why the usual wisdom is never to
use
those things above 50 kHz.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Phil, there is another world out there that does not do what you do, and
does not depend on the finesse of such things.

Well, there are lots of audio folks and people who just want to blink
LEDs, if that's what you mean.

Sprinkling 3 pF and 20 nH randomly among adjacent pins of an IC can do
some pretty amusing things--for instance making a resonance at 70 MHz,
just the thing to put some nice Q ~= 10 ringing on a logic line driven
by 8 ohms.

So it isn't just bleeding edge analogue that has problems with those
things.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


Phil, you are probably a genius. I think that may keep you from
understanding that there are methods and approaches that is beneath your
grasp. I am just tired of people knocking something that might be
misused and blaming it on the something. I have had great success with
the solderless breadboards and I have had failures as well. It was
educational and well worth the experience. Since then, I have learned to
use them when appropriate and not use them otherwise. Have you done the
same?

As a fallen human being, there isn't much that's really beneath me.

I'm not insulting people who use them--the first project that I ever
designed and built for myself, over 40 years ago, was a big white
solderless breadboard on top of a chassis with dual tracking regulators
inside. (Well, sort-of tracking. IIRC it used a dual gang pot and
uA78G and uA79G regulators in 4-pin TO3s. Power came from a 25.2V CT
transformer, a bridge rectifier, and two caps.

I found that I almost never used it--partly because it was big and
clunky, but also because I didn't like having to take up so much space
if the circuit was at all complicated.

I also have one that somebody gave me, sitting on top of a cabinet in
the lab, which I've never used.

I learned dead-bug construction in my first job, designing timing and
frequency control stuff for satellite radio equipment. It was the house
style where I worked, and it was good medicine, so I never looked back.

I only ever use perf board for the very occasional emergency client
job--some clients don't like dead bug even when they're in a jam. (I've
done this only once, iirc, when a client was out of town on a job and
needed a custom temperature controller ASAP.)

My son is more of a perf board guy, but that's mostly because his
prototyping work so far has involved several uC demo boards with stuff
hung off them.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

 

[rickman]

On 9/18/2014 10:37 AM, David Brown wrote:

In s.e.d., I often use "k" to kill a thread - either because it has
descended to the kindergarten level, or because it is a boring,
off-topic thread about things like LT Spice or amplifier design.

Lol! I thought 'K' was for Kill, but now I realize it is for
Kindergarten...

--

Rick