Chip with simple program for Toy

[John Fields]

On 21 Oct 2003 03:42:27 -0700, bill.sloman@ieee.org (Bill Sloman) wrote:

Jim, you over-value John as a debater. He seems to have learned his
style of abuse in fourth grade, and failed to develop it since then.
In a user-group occasionally blessed by flames from the unsurpassed
Richard Steven Waltz, John Fields is a one-finger pianist playing
"Chopsticks", over and over again.

You may like his politics, but you can scarcely be impressed by his
abuse.

---
While you may like Steve's excellently rowdy style because you find it
slapsticky and easy to understand, I prefer a more subdued tone, the
subtleties and undertones of which you obviously can't grasp because of
your belief in the primitivity of things Texana.

Oh well...

--
John Fields

 

[John Fields]

On 21 Oct 2003 03:45:50 -0700, bill.sloman@ieee.org (Bill Sloman) wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:<1u29pvshrj0cpafh5c6620ge6mepcvlgns@4ax.com>...
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:20:39 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:gam8pv8hghekik4cfq61dcmoc8apt3c5r7@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:58:10 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


It's truly a joy to read your posts.

---
You _enjoy_ reading paranoid, sophomoric twaddle?

Only when it's good...but then again, how would you possibly know?

---
What, did you also lose your short term memory in VietNam?

It's not hard to figure out from your admission of enjoying reading
Johanson's masturbation fantasies.

You get your kicks from being beaten up by teenage boys?

Explains a lot.

---
Now that makes absolutely no sense to me. Care to explain how you
arrived at that conclusion?

--
John Fields

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:52:21 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:jn29pvkt5pgm6g6324jrdu5n96vpg654uf@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:56:52 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


Are you taking linguistics from Dark Matter by any chance ;-)

---
If that's the best you can do, I'm going to have to let you slide,
Barphy. Sorry, but I just don't have time for amateurs.

And you would certainly be the resident expert in that!

---
Yes, I have to deal with, and dispatch them, every day.

--
John Fields

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:55:02 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:ds09pvcq8up3aotkjtcl8ipqrfve8oua54@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:19:36 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:hnl8pv8r5esl80juaq80ep45n5qabi5ll1@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:50:29 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


Nah! He's just like a texas bronco; he has to be trained ;-) Where the
heck
is my resident dominatrix?

---
You better find out, you're gonna need her to "punish" you with that
strap-on up your ass for being a bad boy pretty soon.

Are you a john John? Promises...you give me nothing but promises...but
can
you deliver? I remember a drill instructor once saying that Texas has
nothing but steers and queers...and you don't look like a steer.

---
Sounds like you'd like to move here, since either way you'd wind up with
a horn up your ass.

Only if it's your horn John...are you making me an offer? - LOL

---
Only in inviting you to Texas, where I'm sure you can find anything
you're looking for.

--
John Fields

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:58:07 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:

Are you in the closet? So many of your references are sexual in nature
that it makes one wonder. Come on...you can admit it to us. We won't hold it
against you ;-)

---
But you'd like to try?

It won't work... I'm hetero.

--
John Fields

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:11:49 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:

You have to realize that the people that you are trying to reach (Dark
Matter, John Fields, and their ilk) are monosyllabic cultural Neanderthals,
lacking any kind of sophistication and intellectual or emotional depth.
They've never had a thought deeper than their next rape fantasy and the
words just go over their pointy, opinionated, narrow minded little heads.

Because they become so frustrated with the pathetically obvious limitations
of the truly anal retentive,

Interesting phrase. Apparently out of place, but perhaps referring to
the author? A clumsy construct, in any case, by one casting aspersions
on Neanderthals...

their limited vocabulary (such that it may be),
comes rushing out in hilarious epithets when confronted with themselves.

--
John Fields

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:14:37 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:sv19pvc2l3hkusefl6qi0mhkkbdcrro3kb@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:23:06 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


Me too! God, I haven't had this much fun since they made Quaaludes
illegal.

---
That certainly explains the soporific quality of your posts.

Was that a double entendre John; if so, you must have tried them yourself.

---
IKYABWAI

Yawnnnnnnn...

--
John Fields

 

[Baphomet]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:jn29pvkt5pgm6g6324jrdu5n96vpg654uf@4ax.com...

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:56:52 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


Are you taking linguistics from Dark Matter by any chance ;-)

---
If that's the best you can do, I'm going to have to let you slide,
Barphy. Sorry, but I just don't have time for amateurs.

And you would certainly be the resident expert in that!

 

[Baphomet]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:ds09pvcq8up3aotkjtcl8ipqrfve8oua54@4ax.com...

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:19:36 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:hnl8pv8r5esl80juaq80ep45n5qabi5ll1@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:50:29 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


Nah! He's just like a texas bronco; he has to be trained ;-) Where the
heck
is my resident dominatrix?

---
You better find out, you're gonna need her to "punish" you with that
strap-on up your ass for being a bad boy pretty soon.

Are you a john John? Promises...you give me nothing but promises...but
can
you deliver? I remember a drill instructor once saying that Texas has
nothing but steers and queers...and you don't look like a steer.

---
Sounds like you'd like to move here, since either way you'd wind up with
a horn up your ass.

Only if it's your horn John...are you making me an offer? - LOL

 

[Baphomet]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:1u29pvshrj0cpafh5c6620ge6mepcvlgns@4ax.com...

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:20:39 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:gam8pv8hghekik4cfq61dcmoc8apt3c5r7@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:58:10 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


It's truly a joy to read your posts.

---
You _enjoy_ reading paranoid, sophomoric twaddle?

Only when it's good...but then again, how would you possibly know?

---
What, did you also lose your short term memory in VietNam?

It's not hard to figure out from your admission of enjoying reading
Johanson's masturbation fantasies.

John -

Are you in the closet? So many of your references are sexual in nature
that it makes one wonder. Come on...you can admit it to us. We won't hold it
against you ;-)

 

[Baphomet]

"DarkMatter" <DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:slj9pvc7o5vv7ukmkpn202ehipmq6kuj1u@4ax.com...

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 14:58:10 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> Gave us:


You're right, of course. John Fields is an abusive, foul mouthed bully
who like all good bullies, picks on the weak and defenseless of which I
can
guarantee, I am not one. He is probably off in some bar in Austin,
sulking
since I read him the riot act yesterday.

You are more retarded than roger dodger is. You two should get
married.

Hey Dark -

I was reading some of your usenet posts on Google yesterday...you
know...the ones that aren't there and if they are, are the work of an
impersonator? Everyone seems to agree that you are an emotionally
dysfuntional putz. What do you think? Do you think? Can you think? Do you
think you think? Youth wants to know!

 

[Baphomet]

"Roger Johansson" <no-email@home.se> wrote in message
news:0fs9pvg1bhcp4t4m32vn0qvg6fk9kbgf3i@4ax.com...

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

Your rant is amazing, certainly deserving of extended analysis, except
that I have code to finish tonight. In summary, it conveys the
reassurance that no group has a monopoly on bigotry, illogic, or
self-righteous prudery.

My views are the result of a long study of the problems of mankind,
both in world literature, in my own reality and through media.

When you look at what is shown on tv every night you might wonder
where all this violence comes from. Not only the real violence in the
news, but also all the violence in movies and tv series.
And the violence in people's faces and voices, if you are sensible
enough to see it.

Think of what we could do if most people were not occupied with
filling their lives with a lot of meaningless stuff, and violence.

Mankind is paralyzed by a cultural pattern which creates a need in
people to fill the emptyness in their lives, they fill it with
obsessions like sex, music, work, hate, love, bitterness, drugs,
games, anything to take their mind off reality.

The reason is an old power system, a mind control system which earlier
had a religious form, today it has taken on new forms but the old
traditions live on as social processes.

It takes only half an hour for me to explain what I have to say, but
it usually takes years to help a typical reader overcome all the
objections to my ideas he has been impregnated with.

The reason for that is that the culture we live in has built up a lot
of reasons and justifications for the lifestyle most people follow,
and these ideas fill people's minds with justifications for the way
they have been taught to live.
When people are forced to live at a high stress level they find
reasons whu it has to be like that. It is easier for them to change
their own way of seeing the world than to change the world for the
better.

People who try to change the world for the better are called whiners
or sissies. It is more manly to accept a tough world and make it even
tougher.

People learn to be devious and streetsmart, they become experienced
and learn how to fool the simple and naive people.
It becomes an ideal to be tough and smart, to learn to handle a lot of
stress.

People who are trained to be tough and devious have social and mental
power over more natural and uncomplicated people.
The tough people can always escalate themselves out of any problems,
the less tough ones are not prepared to go to higher levels of
toughness and violence.

It has become an ideal to be always on the guard, always ready for a
devious social game, and the people who are not aware of this ideal
are victimized and harassed until they learn the secret rules of this
cultural pattern.

This system leads to a situation where people are so occupied with
keeping an eye on themselves and others that they cannot relax and
find peace of mind. This is the reason why they always occupy
themselves with something, and why they feel a need to drink alcohol.

It is a painful situation to live in, it is unnatural to be constantly
exited and ready for devious social games.
They try to ease the pain and find relief, or occupy themselves with
something as they cannot afford to relax for real.

To be constantly exited has become the norm, instead of being relaxed.
There are many forms of excitation, hate, love, deviousness, fear,
concentration, etc..

In the social life the norm should be to be relaxed, not ready for all
sorts of foul play and violence.

We have a faulty ideal in this culture, and we need to realize how
much problems it causes and change our ideals.

The concentrated and excited people need to understand that they have
to learn to relax, learn to forget the training they have been
subjected to. We should lower the levels of violence instead of
training everybody to ever higher levels of violence.

Roger -

You have to realize that the people that you are trying to reach (Dark
Matter, John Fields, and their ilk) are monosyllabic cultural Neanderthals,
lacking any kind of sophistication and intellectual or emotional depth.
They've never had a thought deeper than their next rape fantasy and the
words just go over their pointy, opinionated, narrow minded little heads.
Because they become so frustrated with the pathetically obvious limitations
of the truly anal retentive, their limited vocabulary (such that it may be),
comes rushing out in hilarious epithets when confronted with themselves.

 

[Baphomet]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:sv19pvc2l3hkusefl6qi0mhkkbdcrro3kb@4ax.com...

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:23:06 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


Me too! God, I haven't had this much fun since they made Quaaludes
illegal.

---
That certainly explains the soporific quality of your posts.

Was that a double entendre John; if so, you must have tried them yourself.

 

[John Fortier]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:31eapv0fn1uf3ba89n37qnj31o5ogb0mht@4ax.com...

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:14:37 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:sv19pvc2l3hkusefl6qi0mhkkbdcrro3kb@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:23:06 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


Me too! God, I haven't had this much fun since they made Quaaludes
illegal.

---
That certainly explains the soporific quality of your posts.

Was that a double entendre John; if so, you must have tried them
yourself.

---
IKYABWAI

Yawnnnnnnn...

--
John Fields

A pratt.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:54:19 +0200, Roger Johansson <no-email@home.se>
wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

Your rant is amazing, certainly deserving of extended analysis, except
that I have code to finish tonight. In summary, it conveys the
reassurance that no group has a monopoly on bigotry, illogic, or
self-righteous prudery.

My views are the result of a long study of the problems of mankind,
both in world literature, in my own reality and through media.

When you look at what is shown on tv every night you might wonder
where all this violence comes from. Not only the real violence in the
news, but also all the violence in movies and tv series.
And the violence in people's faces and voices, if you are sensible
enough to see it.

Certainly. People evolved in a far different environment than the one
in which most of us live, but we still carry the basic lusts that had
served us well for millions of years - even before we were human.
These lusts are now easily exploited for fun and profit. So we have a
gross excess of fast cars, fatty foods, tittilating casinos, drugs and
cigarettes, and an endless series of Lethal Weapon movie sequils.

Think of what we could do if most people were not occupied with
filling their lives with a lot of meaningless stuff, and violence.

Well, we could help the rest of the world achieve, um, what we have.

Mankind is paralyzed by a cultural pattern which creates a need in
people to fill the emptyness in their lives, they fill it with
obsessions like sex, music, work, hate, love, bitterness, drugs,
games, anything to take their mind off reality.

No, the pattern is instinctive; modern culture (and, more effective,
modern technology) just enables us to indulge to excess.
Interestingly, culture *used* to have the opposite effect; those
old-timers understood some things better.

The reason is an old power system, a mind control system which earlier
had a religious form, today it has taken on new forms but the old
traditions live on as social processes.

The reason is high productivity replacing the struggle to survive with
a culture of leisure and plenty, and a collapse of the old
legal/religious heirarchy that, whatever its bad influences, did tend
to supress many excesses.

It takes only half an hour for me to explain what I have to say, but
it usually takes years to help a typical reader overcome all the
objections to my ideas he has been impregnated with.

The reason for that is that the culture we live in has built up a lot
of reasons and justifications for the lifestyle most people follow,
and these ideas fill people's minds with justifications for the way
they have been taught to live.
When people are forced to live at a high stress level they find
reasons whu it has to be like that. It is easier for them to change
their own way of seeing the world than to change the world for the
better.

They're not forced. They do it because it makes them feel good,
admittedly on a very shallow and short-term level.

People who try to change the world for the better are called whiners
or sissies.

Too many of them are.

It is more manly to accept a tough world and make it even
tougher.

It takes toughness to reject the fluff, drugs, and shallowness, and to
turn off the TV and do something better.

People learn to be devious and streetsmart, they become experienced
and learn how to fool the simple and naive people.
It becomes an ideal to be tough and smart, to learn to handle a lot of
stress.

Actually, most of the people I know are pretty nice, and have basicly
decent lives. Being tough and devious are useful tools in time of
need, but most people use them sensibly.

People who are trained to be tough and devious have social and mental
power over more natural and uncomplicated people.
The tough people can always escalate themselves out of any problems,
the less tough ones are not prepared to go to higher levels of
toughness and violence.

This is called "leadership." Families and tribes needed this to
survive. Businesses too.

It has become an ideal to be always on the guard, always ready for a
devious social game, and the people who are not aware of this ideal
are victimized and harassed until they learn the secret rules of this
cultural pattern.

This system leads to a situation where people are so occupied with
keeping an eye on themselves and others that they cannot relax and
find peace of mind. This is the reason why they always occupy
themselves with something, and why they feel a need to drink alcohol.

I think you exaggerate. And I doubt there's a correlation between
toughness and alcoholism... I suspect the opposite.

It is a painful situation to live in, it is unnatural to be constantly
exited and ready for devious social games.
They try to ease the pain and find relief, or occupy themselves with
something as they cannot afford to relax for real.

Painful? Most people in the developed world turn out to be rather
healthy physically and mentally, and most enjoy their work, families,
and lives, according to surveys I've seen. Go to Nigeria if you want
to see pain.

To be constantly exited has become the norm, instead of being relaxed.
There are many forms of excitation, hate, love, deviousness, fear,
concentration, etc..

The only thing I really fear in life is boredom.

In the social life the norm should be to be relaxed, not ready for all
sorts of foul play and violence.

You're beginning to bore me.

We have a faulty ideal in this culture, and we need to realize how
much problems it causes and change our ideals.

The concentrated and excited people need to understand that they have
to learn to relax, learn to forget the training they have been
subjected to. We should lower the levels of violence instead of
training everybody to ever higher levels of violence.

Right, those Nintendo games have got to go. Thank goodness, the
Terminator movies are on hold for a while.



Q: So; what's to replace the speed, stimulation, fear, competition,
drugs, violence, and game cartriges plaguing our lives?

A: Spiritual, artistic, romantic pursuits.


John

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:11:49 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:

Roger -

You have to realize that the people that you are trying to reach (Dark
Matter, John Fields, and their ilk) are monosyllabic cultural Neanderthals,
lacking any kind of sophistication and intellectual or emotional depth.
They've never had a thought deeper than their next rape fantasy and the
words just go over their pointy, opinionated, narrow minded little heads.
Because they become so frustrated with the pathetically obvious limitations
of the truly anal retentive, their limited vocabulary (such that it may be),
comes rushing out in hilarious epithets when confronted with themselves.

This is wild, and uninformed, exaggeration. One's newsgroup personna
is loosely correlated to one's behavior with real people in real life.

Around here, the Berkeley Liberals are notorious for morphing from
loving spiritualists to hell-on-wheels the second they step into their
Volvos. A newsgroup, like a car, cuts one off from full human
interaction.


John

 

[John Fortier]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:jn29pvkt5pgm6g6324jrdu5n96vpg654uf@4ax.com...

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:56:52 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


Are you taking linguistics from Dark Matter by any chance ;-)

---
If that's the best you can do, I'm going to have to let you slide,
Barphy. Sorry, but I just don't have time for amateurs.

--
John Fields

1/10

In which case, Jonny, you'l have difficulty finding time to play with
yourself.

 

[John Fortier]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:vkcapv8ebjfob95oniej638n21118rbcu3@4ax.com...

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 06:52:21 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:jn29pvkt5pgm6g6324jrdu5n96vpg654uf@4ax.com...
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:56:52 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandaDEATH2SPAMMERS@catskill.net> wrote:


Are you taking linguistics from Dark Matter by any chance ;-)

---
If that's the best you can do, I'm going to have to let you slide,
Barphy. Sorry, but I just don't have time for amateurs.

And you would certainly be the resident expert in that!

---
Yes, I have to deal with, and dispatch them, every day.

--
John Fields

3/10

Your company employs amateurs? Why does this not surprise me?

Or are you using "dispatch' in the tough guy vernacular, as in shoot 'em up?

 

[John Fields]

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 07:56:46 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 10:54:19 +0200, Roger Johansson <no-email@home.se
wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

Your rant is amazing, certainly deserving of extended analysis, except
that I have code to finish tonight. In summary, it conveys the
reassurance that no group has a monopoly on bigotry, illogic, or
self-righteous prudery.

My views are the result of a long study of the problems of mankind,
both in world literature, in my own reality and through media.

When you look at what is shown on tv every night you might wonder
where all this violence comes from. Not only the real violence in the
news, but also all the violence in movies and tv series.
And the violence in people's faces and voices, if you are sensible
enough to see it.


Certainly. People evolved in a far different environment than the one
in which most of us live, but we still carry the basic lusts that had
served us well for millions of years - even before we were human.
These lusts are now easily exploited for fun and profit. So we have a
gross excess of fast cars, fatty foods, tittilating casinos, drugs and
cigarettes, and an endless series of Lethal Weapon movie sequils.

Think of what we could do if most people were not occupied with
filling their lives with a lot of meaningless stuff, and violence.

Well, we could help the rest of the world achieve, um, what we have.


Mankind is paralyzed by a cultural pattern which creates a need in
people to fill the emptyness in their lives, they fill it with
obsessions like sex, music, work, hate, love, bitterness, drugs,
games, anything to take their mind off reality.

No, the pattern is instinctive; modern culture (and, more effective,
modern technology) just enables us to indulge to excess.
Interestingly, culture *used* to have the opposite effect; those
old-timers understood some things better.

The reason is an old power system, a mind control system which earlier
had a religious form, today it has taken on new forms but the old
traditions live on as social processes.

The reason is high productivity replacing the struggle to survive with
a culture of leisure and plenty, and a collapse of the old
legal/religious heirarchy that, whatever its bad influences, did tend
to supress many excesses.

It takes only half an hour for me to explain what I have to say, but
it usually takes years to help a typical reader overcome all the
objections to my ideas he has been impregnated with.

The reason for that is that the culture we live in has built up a lot
of reasons and justifications for the lifestyle most people follow,
and these ideas fill people's minds with justifications for the way
they have been taught to live.
When people are forced to live at a high stress level they find
reasons whu it has to be like that. It is easier for them to change
their own way of seeing the world than to change the world for the
better.

They're not forced. They do it because it makes them feel good,
admittedly on a very shallow and short-term level.


People who try to change the world for the better are called whiners
or sissies.

Too many of them are.

It is more manly to accept a tough world and make it even
tougher.

It takes toughness to reject the fluff, drugs, and shallowness, and to
turn off the TV and do something better.

People learn to be devious and streetsmart, they become experienced
and learn how to fool the simple and naive people.
It becomes an ideal to be tough and smart, to learn to handle a lot of
stress.

Actually, most of the people I know are pretty nice, and have basicly
decent lives. Being tough and devious are useful tools in time of
need, but most people use them sensibly.


People who are trained to be tough and devious have social and mental
power over more natural and uncomplicated people.
The tough people can always escalate themselves out of any problems,
the less tough ones are not prepared to go to higher levels of
toughness and violence.

This is called "leadership." Families and tribes needed this to
survive. Businesses too.

It has become an ideal to be always on the guard, always ready for a
devious social game, and the people who are not aware of this ideal
are victimized and harassed until they learn the secret rules of this
cultural pattern.

This system leads to a situation where people are so occupied with
keeping an eye on themselves and others that they cannot relax and
find peace of mind. This is the reason why they always occupy
themselves with something, and why they feel a need to drink alcohol.

I think you exaggerate. And I doubt there's a correlation between
toughness and alcoholism... I suspect the opposite.

It is a painful situation to live in, it is unnatural to be constantly
exited and ready for devious social games.
They try to ease the pain and find relief, or occupy themselves with
something as they cannot afford to relax for real.

Painful? Most people in the developed world turn out to be rather
healthy physically and mentally, and most enjoy their work, families,
and lives, according to surveys I've seen. Go to Nigeria if you want
to see pain.

To be constantly exited has become the norm, instead of being relaxed.
There are many forms of excitation, hate, love, deviousness, fear,
concentration, etc..

The only thing I really fear in life is boredom.

In the social life the norm should be to be relaxed, not ready for all
sorts of foul play and violence.

You're beginning to bore me.

We have a faulty ideal in this culture, and we need to realize how
much problems it causes and change our ideals.

The concentrated and excited people need to understand that they have
to learn to relax, learn to forget the training they have been
subjected to. We should lower the levels of violence instead of
training everybody to ever higher levels of violence.

Right, those Nintendo games have got to go. Thank goodness, the
Terminator movies are on hold for a while.



Q: So; what's to replace the speed, stimulation, fear, competition,
drugs, violence, and game cartriges plaguing our lives?

A: Spiritual, artistic, romantic pursuits.

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All right, John!

--
John Fields

 

[John Fortier]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On 21 Oct 2003 03:36:22 -0700, bill.sloman@ieee.org (Bill Sloman) wrote:


There you go again, assuming that everybody who thinks that you are an
arse-hole is sexually interested. The message you need to appreciate
is that we find you despicable, not desireable, and that we'd like
*you* to put a cork in it, rather than have you hanging it out in the
hope of more complimentary insertions.

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What's happened to you Bill? I can remember when you could at least
stay on the subject for a _little_ while. Now, it seems you're just
trying a scattergun approach. Grasping at straws, perhaps? Or
Alzheimer's, Or don't you know?

--
John Fields

Not even worth scoring.

Bill is qujite right, you are despicable. Rude, ignorant, boorish, boring
and banal, with the social graces of a pigmy hippo. There aren't that many
people who need to know about the 555, and the number there are don't make
it worthwhile for the rest of us to put up withyour purile excresences.

Face it, Jonny, you're out of your depth and no-one's going to rescue you.

I did warn you that you would be held up to the ridicule you so richly
deserve at every post, and now, here we go, it's happening.

How's it feel to be the recipient of what you deserve, after so long making
life in the groups unpleasant for others?

John Fortier