Buying Greeenland

[Sylvia Else]

On 29/08/2019 3:17 am, amdx wrote:

 That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

                                       Mikek

I can't imagine the residents of Greenland even considering consenting
to the purchase unless Greenland became a fully-fledged state of the
USA, complete with domestic air services without passports.

Sylvia.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 4:15:25 AM UTC-4, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 30/08/19 01:18, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 23:26:45 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 29/08/19 22:29, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:47:26 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek



You get your news via Pony Express or similar? Been in a coma?




trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get
an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What
an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed
it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies. He tells
one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him
on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them. I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump. I thought
that when he leveled that vile insult at McCain and they followed up
by disparaging all POWs, 'I prefer the ones that were not captured".
that it would be the end of him. That happened early on in the
primary campaign, right after he announced. If anything, it just
propelled him on. That's when I knew something very strange and very
bad was happening.





It's why he succeeded while Mitt Romney fell flat on his face can you
imagine Mitt ever saying he liked to grab some pussy from time to time?
oooh yeah Mitt, grab me by the pussy Mitt...oh you so sexaaay.

It's why John McCain failed, Republicans think he was a moron for going
to Viet Nam and getting his ass shot down and being a huge
embarrassment, he should have stayed home dodged the draft and
paaaaaaaaartay!


If that's true, it's rather odd that the Republicans picked both of those
men to be their presidential candidate. George Will recently said that
what Trump has done is worse than Nixon. He said Nixon did his dirty deeds
in secret, he hid them and when they were exposed, it brought him down.
Trump does his lying, insulting, vilifying, dividing, openly and brazenly.
And that will be much harder to get over, he's normalized the despicable.



The question to me is, do the Trump haters respect the concept of
citizens electing their leaders, or do they think that they are always
right and the flyover hicks are wrong?

That obviously will differ among all the people who dislike and don't
approve of Trump.



In some areas of science and engineering, rightness is mathematically
provable. In more complex and chaotic systems, the interesting cases,
it's not, but that doesn't stop people from thinking they are right.
Quite the opposite. Belief becomes tribal when not corrected by
experiment.

I used to really appreciate George Will, but I fear he has become
another victim of Washington institutional capture.

I don't see that. I see a guy who like many of us saw what Trump was from
the very beginning and tried to warn everyone. George Will just isn't
going to sell his soul to the orange clown, as sadly so many others have.
Funny thing, those that have, there is now a huge wake of them, left in
Trump's debris field, as he throws them under the bus. Yet, amazingly
there are plenty more willing to go do a deal with the devil.

It's becoming increasingly obviously that Trump isn't right in the head,
he's becoming more and more erratic, which should be a concern to all.
He's even done a full turn on Fox now, mad that even Fox presents things
that don't make him look good. Like they did a poll that showed him
losing to the Democrats. Trump thinks that it's Fox's job to bury that,
to lie, to make things up that make Trump look good.


What you are saying is that you don't respect the idea of democracy,
that different people have different opinions, and that we vote and
respect the outcome in a civilized manner.

That should be a two way street. Once elected, the
office holder should respect the opinions of those
that did not vote for him.

I'm speaking from a country which, until last week,
was a representative democracy, but now is a elected
dictatorship - just like Putin's Russia.

Yes, our PM has just told my elected representative
to fuck off and come back when it is too late to
represent the opinion of those that elected him.

A parlimentary system seems totally chaotic to me.

No more chaotic than the US system. Different, yes,
but not inherently more chaotic.


We have a full-time, four year President until the scheduled instant
that we swear in the next one. And he can't call for early elections
or dissolve Congress or any of that confusing stuff.

A key component of the current insane outrage is that
in 2011 the idiot Cameron introduced the "fixed term
parliaments act".

Normally when there is such dissention we would have
had a general election to resolve what is the /current/
will of the people and who they want to lead the
country.

Now that's impossible.


The dynamics of the US system seems to settle down to two dominant
parties.

Not entirely. The Rebublicans have their militant insurgency
called the Tea Party.

The Tea Party has been mostly neutered and made irrelevant.
Witness the greatly increased spending, doubling of the deficits
and not all that much protest from the Tea Party folks. Nor
do these alleged patriots seem at the least concerned about
Trump attacking NATO, saying he trusts KJU and the threat from
NK nukes is over, siding with Putin over America, etc.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 9:51:25 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:16201f8a-b76d-4ea0-
bbf8-0c2b7fc90ea7@googlegroups.com:

And the Democrats just say all that is perfectly fine, nothing to see
folks, just move along. They are as blind and as partisan as the
trumpets are with Trump. Thanks for another teaching moment.



Sure shows you for the utter idiot you are.

Since it has been that way long before Trump and likely even before
you larded up. Yeah... you need taught. The problem is that little
ineducable feature you sport.

Show us an example where a previous Sec of State had a spouse raking in
$500K for speeches from foreign countries, organizations, individuals
that needed influence with the govt. Show us one that had a "foundation"
that raked in anything, much less billions. You can't, it never happened.

I suppose you think Bill pardoning Marc Rich on his last day in office,
who was still on the FBIs most wanted list, the biggest tax cheat in
US history, who had fled the US, had nothing to do with Rich's ex-wife
donating $400K to Bill's library and over a million to the Democrat
party?

Want to tell us again how you're a Republican?

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:16201f8a-b76d-4ea0-bbf8-0c2b7fc90ea7@googlegroups.com:

They raked in a hundred million, much of it from Bill giving
speeches to every country, organization, business, scum bag

So, you are saying that this manner of working in America is not an
American thing?

Looks like he got paid for services rendered.

How many seminars do you give a year and how many get you paid?

Seminars hell, when have you *ever* given any kind of speech other
than the pure spew that comes out of you here. Well, fat boy?

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:16201f8a-b76d-4ea0-
bbf8-0c2b7fc90ea7@googlegroups.com:

And the Democrats just say all that is perfectly fine, nothing to see
folks, just move along. They are as blind and as partisan as the
trumpets are with Trump. Thanks for another teaching moment.

Sure shows you for the utter idiot you are.

Since it has been that way long before Trump and likely even before
you larded up. Yeah... you need taught. The problem is that little
ineducable feature you sport.

 

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
newshnfmed4j69oep2ji6ohl0ghf98q3hocaf@4ax.com:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 20:44:39 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:

On 8/28/19 8:02 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 12:17:00 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net
wrote:

That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there
until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen
again. Great idea Trump. \

Mikek

Why are all these posters getting their panties twisted over
things that they have no influence on, when they could be
designing electronics?


Yo yo yo, they call me the panty-twister, the pussy-grabber,
I'm an Ohms Law bone-saw tight flow Mister Transistor with tight
game for fly sisters to nab her

And these posters be posers disrespect the solder-slinger
soldiers, but they be Cabbage Patch kid-holders,
Math class dozers,
Face card flop-folders,


Usenet destroyers.

Too many broken vias in that assembly.

Continuity promiscuity

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Saturday, August 31, 2019 at 12:27:57 AM UTC+10, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 9:47:21 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:16201f8a-b76d-4ea0-bbf8-0c2b7fc90ea7@googlegroups.com:

They raked in a hundred million, much of it from Bill giving
speeches to every country, organization, business, scum bag

So, you are saying that this manner of working in America is not an
American thing?

Looks like he got paid for services rendered.

How many seminars do you give a year and how many get you paid?

Seminars hell, when have you *ever* given any kind of speech other
than the pure spew that comes out of you here. Well, fat boy?

Bill Clinton wasn't giving seminars, he was merely giving speeches.

An empty distinction.

And sure, he's entitled to do that, but not from countries, organizations,
businesses that need influence with the US govt while his WIFE IS
SECRETARY OF STATE. That money is going into her pockets too.

Where is the legislation that says he was not entitled to give speeches to anybody who would pay for them?

Past presidents have always been free to give speeches (and free to get paid for giving them) . The idea that he would have lost that right because his wife had become secretary of state is trifle bizarre. Trader4 has a lot of silly ideas but this one is sillier than most.

What do you think would happen if you were on the local planning board
and your wife took $5K for a speech to the developer that needs a
variance for a new shopping mall? And the same developer made a
$100K donation to your family's "foundation"?

A secretary of state isn't sitting on any kind of planning board, and the proposition that a past president of the US is going to take some kind of bribe to influence her does show a remarkable lack of respect for the office of the president of the US.

It's also a trifle unrealistic. The Clinton's both trained as lawyers
and would be very careful not to take any money that might look like a bribe to somebody who knew the laws involved. Trader4 doesn't known anything much, which leaves him free to imagine all sort of rules that don't actually exist.

> That what the Clintons were doing,

That's what Trader4 likes to think that the Clinton's were doing.

If he had any money, the Clintons would sue him for libel, and win bigtime.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

<snip>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christense]

fredag den 30. august 2019 kl. 14.57.34 UTC+2 skrev Sylvia Else:

On 29/08/2019 3:17 am, amdx wrote:
 That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

                                       Mikek


I can't imagine the residents of Greenland even considering consenting
to the purchase unless Greenland became a fully-fledged state of the
USA, complete with domestic air services without passports.

I think they'd be more concerned about keeping their free healthcare,
free dentist, free education, welfare etc.

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 9:47:21 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Seminars hell, when have you *ever* given any kind of speech other
than the pure spew that comes out of you here. Well, fat boy?

He gives pro bono speeches here.

--

Rick C.

++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 8:57:34 AM UTC-4, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 29/08/2019 3:17 am, amdx wrote:
 That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

                                       Mikek


I can't imagine the residents of Greenland even considering consenting
to the purchase unless Greenland became a fully-fledged state of the
USA, complete with domestic air services without passports.

I used to work for a very high tech company making attached array processors. That's the category the Cray supercomputers were in. Some 10 or 15 years later these machines were largely obsolete due to the single chip in a PC being proportionally so much faster per dollar. This company never changed their business model until one day, on the literal verge of bankruptcy, they swapped businesses with a company scanning documents and making document scanning equipment. Yes, the literally jacked up the two names and swapped the businesses underneath.

I'll bet Trump is thinking something similar with Greenland and Puerto Rico..

--

Rick C.

+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 09:15:18 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 30/08/19 01:18, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 23:26:45 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 29/08/19 22:29, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:47:26 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek



You get your news via Pony Express or similar? Been in a coma?




trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get
an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What
an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed
it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies. He tells
one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him
on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them. I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump. I thought
that when he leveled that vile insult at McCain and they followed up
by disparaging all POWs, 'I prefer the ones that were not captured".
that it would be the end of him. That happened early on in the
primary campaign, right after he announced. If anything, it just
propelled him on. That's when I knew something very strange and very
bad was happening.





It's why he succeeded while Mitt Romney fell flat on his face can you
imagine Mitt ever saying he liked to grab some pussy from time to time?
oooh yeah Mitt, grab me by the pussy Mitt...oh you so sexaaay.

It's why John McCain failed, Republicans think he was a moron for going
to Viet Nam and getting his ass shot down and being a huge
embarrassment, he should have stayed home dodged the draft and
paaaaaaaaartay!


If that's true, it's rather odd that the Republicans picked both of those
men to be their presidential candidate. George Will recently said that
what Trump has done is worse than Nixon. He said Nixon did his dirty deeds
in secret, he hid them and when they were exposed, it brought him down.
Trump does his lying, insulting, vilifying, dividing, openly and brazenly.
And that will be much harder to get over, he's normalized the despicable.



The question to me is, do the Trump haters respect the concept of
citizens electing their leaders, or do they think that they are always
right and the flyover hicks are wrong?

That obviously will differ among all the people who dislike and don't
approve of Trump.



In some areas of science and engineering, rightness is mathematically
provable. In more complex and chaotic systems, the interesting cases,
it's not, but that doesn't stop people from thinking they are right.
Quite the opposite. Belief becomes tribal when not corrected by
experiment.

I used to really appreciate George Will, but I fear he has become
another victim of Washington institutional capture.

I don't see that. I see a guy who like many of us saw what Trump was from
the very beginning and tried to warn everyone. George Will just isn't
going to sell his soul to the orange clown, as sadly so many others have.
Funny thing, those that have, there is now a huge wake of them, left in
Trump's debris field, as he throws them under the bus. Yet, amazingly
there are plenty more willing to go do a deal with the devil.

It's becoming increasingly obviously that Trump isn't right in the head,
he's becoming more and more erratic, which should be a concern to all.
He's even done a full turn on Fox now, mad that even Fox presents things
that don't make him look good. Like they did a poll that showed him
losing to the Democrats. Trump thinks that it's Fox's job to bury that,
to lie, to make things up that make Trump look good.


What you are saying is that you don't respect the idea of democracy,
that different people have different opinions, and that we vote and
respect the outcome in a civilized manner.

That should be a two way street. Once elected, the
office holder should respect the opinions of those
that did not vote for him.

I'm speaking from a country which, until last week,
was a representative democracy, but now is a elected
dictatorship - just like Putin's Russia.

Yes, our PM has just told my elected representative
to fuck off and come back when it is too late to
represent the opinion of those that elected him.

A parlimentary system seems totally chaotic to me.

No more chaotic than the US system. Different, yes,
but not inherently more chaotic.

In a parlimentary sysrem, aren't there times when there is "no
government" ?

What happens if, heaven forbid, you need one?

 

[John Robertson]

On 2019/08/30 8:54 a.m., Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:

fredag den 30. august 2019 kl. 14.57.34 UTC+2 skrev Sylvia Else:
On 29/08/2019 3:17 am, amdx wrote:
 That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

                                       Mikek


I can't imagine the residents of Greenland even considering consenting
to the purchase unless Greenland became a fully-fledged state of the
USA, complete with domestic air services without passports.


I think they'd be more concerned about keeping their free healthcare,
free dentist, free education, welfare etc.

Canada is actually next door. Win-win for both sides if they joined us..

John :-#)#

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:54:54 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
newshnfmed4j69oep2ji6ohl0ghf98q3hocaf@4ax.com:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 20:44:39 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:

On 8/28/19 8:02 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 12:17:00 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net
wrote:

That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there
until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen
again. Great idea Trump. \

Mikek

Why are all these posters getting their panties twisted over
things that they have no influence on, when they could be
designing electronics?


Yo yo yo, they call me the panty-twister, the pussy-grabber,
I'm an Ohms Law bone-saw tight flow Mister Transistor with tight
game for fly sisters to nab her

And these posters be posers disrespect the solder-slinger
soldiers, but they be Cabbage Patch kid-holders,
Math class dozers,
Face card flop-folders,


Usenet destroyers.



Too many broken vias in that assembly.

Continuity promiscuity

We haven't had a bad PCB, open or short, in years. We do specify
bare-board testing.

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 2:23:13 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 09:15:18 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 30/08/19 01:18, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 23:26:45 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 29/08/19 22:29, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:47:26 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek



You get your news via Pony Express or similar? Been in a coma?




trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get
an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What
an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed
it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies. He tells
one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him
on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them. I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump. I thought
that when he leveled that vile insult at McCain and they followed up
by disparaging all POWs, 'I prefer the ones that were not captured".
that it would be the end of him. That happened early on in the
primary campaign, right after he announced. If anything, it just
propelled him on. That's when I knew something very strange and very
bad was happening.





It's why he succeeded while Mitt Romney fell flat on his face can you
imagine Mitt ever saying he liked to grab some pussy from time to time?
oooh yeah Mitt, grab me by the pussy Mitt...oh you so sexaaay.

It's why John McCain failed, Republicans think he was a moron for going
to Viet Nam and getting his ass shot down and being a huge
embarrassment, he should have stayed home dodged the draft and
paaaaaaaaartay!


If that's true, it's rather odd that the Republicans picked both of those
men to be their presidential candidate. George Will recently said that
what Trump has done is worse than Nixon. He said Nixon did his dirty deeds
in secret, he hid them and when they were exposed, it brought him down.
Trump does his lying, insulting, vilifying, dividing, openly and brazenly.
And that will be much harder to get over, he's normalized the despicable.



The question to me is, do the Trump haters respect the concept of
citizens electing their leaders, or do they think that they are always
right and the flyover hicks are wrong?

That obviously will differ among all the people who dislike and don't
approve of Trump.



In some areas of science and engineering, rightness is mathematically
provable. In more complex and chaotic systems, the interesting cases,
it's not, but that doesn't stop people from thinking they are right.
Quite the opposite. Belief becomes tribal when not corrected by
experiment.

I used to really appreciate George Will, but I fear he has become
another victim of Washington institutional capture.

I don't see that. I see a guy who like many of us saw what Trump was from
the very beginning and tried to warn everyone. George Will just isn't
going to sell his soul to the orange clown, as sadly so many others have.
Funny thing, those that have, there is now a huge wake of them, left in
Trump's debris field, as he throws them under the bus. Yet, amazingly
there are plenty more willing to go do a deal with the devil.

It's becoming increasingly obviously that Trump isn't right in the head,
he's becoming more and more erratic, which should be a concern to all.
He's even done a full turn on Fox now, mad that even Fox presents things
that don't make him look good. Like they did a poll that showed him
losing to the Democrats. Trump thinks that it's Fox's job to bury that,
to lie, to make things up that make Trump look good.


What you are saying is that you don't respect the idea of democracy,
that different people have different opinions, and that we vote and
respect the outcome in a civilized manner.

That should be a two way street. Once elected, the
office holder should respect the opinions of those
that did not vote for him.

I'm speaking from a country which, until last week,
was a representative democracy, but now is a elected
dictatorship - just like Putin's Russia.

Yes, our PM has just told my elected representative
to fuck off and come back when it is too late to
represent the opinion of those that elected him.

A parlimentary system seems totally chaotic to me.

No more chaotic than the US system. Different, yes,
but not inherently more chaotic.


In a parlimentary sysrem, aren't there times when there is "no
government" ?

What happens if, heaven forbid, you need one?

That simply means there is no party or coalition with a majority so they can't pass any bills and they need to elect a new PM. That's pretty much what we have in the US every day except we are stuck with the same President no matter what for four years... potentially even if he shoots someone in the middle of Times Square.

--

Rick C.

--- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
--- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[dcaster@krl.org]

On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 11:22:58 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

It's also a trifle unrealistic. The Clinton's both trained as lawyers
and would be very careful not to take any money that might look like a bribe to somebody who knew the laws involved.

That what the Clintons were doing,

That's what Trader4 likes to think that the Clinton's were doing.

If he had any money, the Clintons would sue him for libel, and win bigtime.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

snip

--

ROTFLMAO Whitewater

Dan

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christense]

fredag den 30. august 2019 kl. 21.56.15 UTC+2 skrev amdx:

On 8/30/2019 10:54 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
fredag den 30. august 2019 kl. 14.57.34 UTC+2 skrev Sylvia Else:
On 29/08/2019 3:17 am, amdx wrote:
 That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

                                       Mikek


I can't imagine the residents of Greenland even considering consenting
to the purchase unless Greenland became a fully-fledged state of the
USA, complete with domestic air services without passports.


I think they'd be more concerned about keeping their free healthcare,
free dentist, free education, welfare etc.


What makes you think it's free, Does Denmark pay for it?
If that's true, them I'll be happy to have Bernie's free healthcare as
long as we (the US) can find a country of 33,000,000,000 to foot the
bill. Because that's the population ratio of Denmark to Greenland.

But if that's true the people of Denmark are getting a raw deal.

people of Denmark get the same deal as the people of Greenland, except
Greenland also have free dental, in Denmark dental is only free while
under 18

http://www.sageandsimple.com/2016/02/free-healthcare-in-denmark/

" Free healthcare in Denmark is not free. Danish healthcare is an 8%
line item deduction of gross pay.

of course it is not "free", someone has to pay for it, it is paid by taxes
so you either win by not being sick or win by having the taxpayer pay your
medical bills

Free healthcare in Denmark does not cover physicals, vision or dental
care, and mental health services
are only partially covered and only in certain situations. Prescriptions
are full price..."

"full price", once it is more than ~$600 in a year the rest is paid for

 

[amdx]

On 8/30/2019 10:54 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:

fredag den 30. august 2019 kl. 14.57.34 UTC+2 skrev Sylvia Else:
On 29/08/2019 3:17 am, amdx wrote:
 That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

                                       Mikek


I can't imagine the residents of Greenland even considering consenting
to the purchase unless Greenland became a fully-fledged state of the
USA, complete with domestic air services without passports.


I think they'd be more concerned about keeping their free healthcare,
free dentist, free education, welfare etc.

What makes you think it's free, Does Denmark pay for it?
If that's true, them I'll be happy to have Bernie's free healthcare as
long as we (the US) can find a country of 33,000,000,000 to foot the
bill. Because that's the population ratio of Denmark to Greenland.

But if that's true the people of Denmark are getting a raw deal.

> http://www.sageandsimple.com/2016/02/free-healthcare-in-denmark/

" Free healthcare in Denmark is not free. Danish healthcare is an 8%
line item deduction of gross pay.
Free healthcare in Denmark does not cover physicals, vision or dental
care, and mental health services
are only partially covered and only in certain situations. Prescriptions
are full price..."


Mikek

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 4:56:25 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

On 8/30/2019 3:21 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
fredag den 30. august 2019 kl. 21.56.15 UTC+2 skrev amdx:
On 8/30/2019 10:54 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
fredag den 30. august 2019 kl. 14.57.34 UTC+2 skrev Sylvia Else:
On 29/08/2019 3:17 am, amdx wrote:
 That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

                                       Mikek


I can't imagine the residents of Greenland even considering consenting
to the purchase unless Greenland became a fully-fledged state of the
USA, complete with domestic air services without passports.


I think they'd be more concerned about keeping their free healthcare,
free dentist, free education, welfare etc.


What makes you think it's free, Does Denmark pay for it?
If that's true, them I'll be happy to have Bernie's free healthcare as
long as we (the US) can find a country of 33,000,000,000 to foot the
bill. Because that's the population ratio of Denmark to Greenland.

But if that's true the people of Denmark are getting a raw deal.


people of Denmark get the same deal as the people of Greenland, except
Greenland also have free dental, in Denmark dental is only free while
under 18

http://www.sageandsimple.com/2016/02/free-healthcare-in-denmark/

" Free healthcare in Denmark is not free. Danish healthcare is an 8%
line item deduction of gross pay.

of course it is not "free", someone has to pay for it, it is paid by taxes
so you either win by not being sick or win by having the taxpayer pay your
medical bills

Free healthcare in Denmark does not cover physicals, vision or dental
care, and mental health services
are only partially covered and only in certain situations. Prescriptions
are full price..."

"full price", once it is more than ~$600 in a year the rest is paid for

Isn't that only the prescriptions?
Mikek

So? Isn't that still pretty durn good? In the US we pay for physicals typically which are a small part of payments. Neither vision nor dental are typically paid for. Mental health services are only paid for at a cursory level... they will pay for a handful of visits and then you are on your own.

I only wish we had national healthcare in the US. Here we have "green" healthcare. If you have the "green", you get the care. If you don't, you are out of luck.

People talk about "free" emergency room care as being adequate for those who can't pay. There are so many things wrong with that it's too much for this discussion.

Medical care in the US is abysmal considering what we are capable of doing and what the current system costs us. But we have middle class health insurance which placates most people. If you are working and your employer pays for your insurance, it feels close to being "free". But that is an illusion. Once you get sick for a long enough time you can and will lose your company paid for insurance. Then you have to pay your own premiums on top of paying the co-pays, the deductibles and the items just plain not covered.

A friend of mine died from leukemia after her insurance company stopped paying their share. The treatment was working, but the company changed their mind and stopped payment. The doctors argued for her and she got payment back after some months but by then it was too late and she died a few months later.

I know another person who had cancer and got audited by the IRS because his deductions were so high from all the charges insurance didn't cover.

Medical insurance needs to go.

--

Rick C.

--+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
--+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christense]

fredag den 30. august 2019 kl. 22.56.25 UTC+2 skrev amdx:

On 8/30/2019 3:21 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
fredag den 30. august 2019 kl. 21.56.15 UTC+2 skrev amdx:
On 8/30/2019 10:54 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
fredag den 30. august 2019 kl. 14.57.34 UTC+2 skrev Sylvia Else:
On 29/08/2019 3:17 am, amdx wrote:
 That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

                                       Mikek


I can't imagine the residents of Greenland even considering consenting
to the purchase unless Greenland became a fully-fledged state of the
USA, complete with domestic air services without passports.


I think they'd be more concerned about keeping their free healthcare,
free dentist, free education, welfare etc.


What makes you think it's free, Does Denmark pay for it?
If that's true, them I'll be happy to have Bernie's free healthcare as
long as we (the US) can find a country of 33,000,000,000 to foot the
bill. Because that's the population ratio of Denmark to Greenland.

But if that's true the people of Denmark are getting a raw deal.


people of Denmark get the same deal as the people of Greenland, except
Greenland also have free dental, in Denmark dental is only free while
under 18

http://www.sageandsimple.com/2016/02/free-healthcare-in-denmark/

" Free healthcare in Denmark is not free. Danish healthcare is an 8%
line item deduction of gross pay.

of course it is not "free", someone has to pay for it, it is paid by taxes
so you either win by not being sick or win by having the taxpayer pay your
medical bills

Free healthcare in Denmark does not cover physicals, vision or dental
care, and mental health services
are only partially covered and only in certain situations. Prescriptions
are full price..."

"full price", once it is more than ~$600 in a year the rest is paid for

Isn't that only the prescriptions?

yes

 

[amdx]

On 8/30/2019 3:21 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:

fredag den 30. august 2019 kl. 21.56.15 UTC+2 skrev amdx:
On 8/30/2019 10:54 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
fredag den 30. august 2019 kl. 14.57.34 UTC+2 skrev Sylvia Else:
On 29/08/2019 3:17 am, amdx wrote:
 That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

                                       Mikek


I can't imagine the residents of Greenland even considering consenting
to the purchase unless Greenland became a fully-fledged state of the
USA, complete with domestic air services without passports.


I think they'd be more concerned about keeping their free healthcare,
free dentist, free education, welfare etc.


What makes you think it's free, Does Denmark pay for it?
If that's true, them I'll be happy to have Bernie's free healthcare as
long as we (the US) can find a country of 33,000,000,000 to foot the
bill. Because that's the population ratio of Denmark to Greenland.

But if that's true the people of Denmark are getting a raw deal.


people of Denmark get the same deal as the people of Greenland, except
Greenland also have free dental, in Denmark dental is only free while
under 18

http://www.sageandsimple.com/2016/02/free-healthcare-in-denmark/

" Free healthcare in Denmark is not free. Danish healthcare is an 8%
line item deduction of gross pay.

of course it is not "free", someone has to pay for it, it is paid by taxes
so you either win by not being sick or win by having the taxpayer pay your
medical bills

Free healthcare in Denmark does not cover physicals, vision or dental
care, and mental health services
are only partially covered and only in certain situations. Prescriptions
are full price..."

"full price", once it is more than ~$600 in a year the rest is paid for

Isn't that only the prescriptions?
Mikek