Buying Greeenland

On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 02:13:17 +0200, Sjouke Burry
<burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote:

On 29.08.19 2:02, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 12:17:00 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek

Why are all these posters getting their panties twisted over things
that they have no influence on, when they could be designing
electronics?

Can they????

Apparently not.

 

[amdx]

On 8/29/2019 9:20 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 19:51:53 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

On 8/28/2019 7:02 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 12:17:00 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek

Why are all these posters getting their panties twisted over things
that they have no influence on, when they could be designing
electronics?

John, the schematics you post are beautiful with good contrast and all
pertinent information.
I was just having some fun when I put to things in the news together,
then bitrex went ballistic.
Spitting, sputtering and drooling cause he lost the election.

Johm, I wish I had what it takes to design electronics, I don't, so
I'm here trying pick all y'alls brains for info to do any project I'm on.
But I'm having fun, so it's all good.

Mikek

The big, hundred-post threads are idiotic flame wars, and I know
really good people who won't post here because it is as bad and
ritually-mindless as twitter.

I guess all unmoderated public forums have the same fate.

Years ago I had a boat question and went to a boating group on usenet.
It is totally whacked for boat info, mostly political. Same with one of
the machine tool groups. From now on I'll try to keep my OT stuff there,
mostly. I didn't really expect to set anyone off, I just thought it was
a funny idea. I guess I'm naive
Mikek

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 29/08/19 15:24, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 07:51:57 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 29/08/19 01:02, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 12:17:00 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek

Why are all these posters getting their panties twisted over things
that they have no influence on, when they could be designing
electronics?

Let's hope *you* don't fall into that trap again!

I'm interested in system dynamics, some social and economic systems
included. But I post about things, and dispute points of fact.

Ditto other people.

The group-killers engage in endless rounds of profanity and lame
insults.

Welcome to usenet, where the unit of discourse is not the
posting, but the flame. T'was always thus, since the 80s.

The only way to win is to not take part.

My house guest just sat down at his laptop next to me. He is a serious
microwave and acoustics designer and educator. He won't post to s.e.d.

From that we can conclude you are not a serious designer/educator

(N.B. I haven't said that conclusion is correct!)

 

On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 16:00:01 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 29/08/19 15:24, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 07:51:57 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 29/08/19 01:02, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 12:17:00 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek

Why are all these posters getting their panties twisted over things
that they have no influence on, when they could be designing
electronics?

Let's hope *you* don't fall into that trap again!

I'm interested in system dynamics, some social and economic systems
included. But I post about things, and dispute points of fact.

Ditto other people.


The group-killers engage in endless rounds of profanity and lame
insults.

Welcome to usenet, where the unit of discourse is not the
posting, but the flame. T'was always thus, since the 80s.

The only way to win is to not take part.


My house guest just sat down at his laptop next to me. He is a serious
microwave and acoustics designer and educator. He won't post to s.e.d.

From that we can conclude you are not a serious designer/educator

(N.B. I haven't said that conclusion is correct!)

I'm both, but I mostly educate the kids who work for me. I just taught
one some things about real-world LC filter design. [1]

There are a few good people who post here and are serious about
electronics. They are grossly outnumbered by amateurs (which I happily
help) and talentless flamers, who I usually ignore. The trend is that
if you try to engage in on-topic discussion with the flamers, they
will soon forget the technology and steer back to insults. That's the
way they are.

[1] it sometimes helps to thermal image your filters.

 

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek

Greenland is Denmark's Pine Ridge Indian Reservation with 70% of the population, who are mostly Inuit, living in poverty, unemployment and alcoholism. The place is a wasteland and human dump. Of course things may change when the deep snow melts and better roads can be built to allow access to the purported very large reserves of precious metals there. And, as with Alaska, the government will buy off the Indians with some small annual stipend while their land gets permanently trashed.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:04:14 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 11:45:31 AM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, August 30, 2019 at 12:02:52 AM UTC+10, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 9:53:49 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 10:44:57 AM UTC+10, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

snip

trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies. He tells one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them. I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump.

Trader4 thinks that the fifteen other Republican Party candidates competing with Trump were "decent and sane". They might have been - if compared with Trump , but people less stupid than Trader4 - most of the population - could see their defects.

Always with the Republicans, ignoring that the reason Trump won was that
the DEMOCRATS picked someone even more defective than Trump! Hillary!
She got beat by the orange clown. Ouch!

She won the popular vote with a margin of some three million votes. Sadly, the deplorables who couldn't see what a sleaze-ball Trump was were concentrated in the smaller states so Trump got a majority in the electoral college.

The so-called "popular vote" is a post election statistic of accident. There is no national popular vote, the general election is comprised of a bunch of individual elections at the state, district and territory level. The idea the idiot won the popular vote is therefore a fraud for several reasons. The first is there was only 60% turn-out in the 2016 election, which means a very high degree of potential variability in results, and the second is the people would have voted far differently if the outcome was to be determined by a national popular vote. It would have been a completely different election iow.

That is a very good point, that the election was conducted under the existing
rules. We don't know what the vote would have been if it was a vote based
on the popular vote and in any close election, obviously that matters.

Simple fact is that libs are just a bunch of sore losers.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
<trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek



You get your news via Pony Express or similar? Been in a coma?




trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get
an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What
an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed
it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies. He tells
one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him
on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them. I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump. I thought
that when he leveled that vile insult at McCain and they followed up
by disparaging all POWs, 'I prefer the ones that were not captured".
that it would be the end of him. That happened early on in the
primary campaign, right after he announced. If anything, it just
propelled him on. That's when I knew something very strange and very
bad was happening.





It's why he succeeded while Mitt Romney fell flat on his face can you
imagine Mitt ever saying he liked to grab some pussy from time to time?
oooh yeah Mitt, grab me by the pussy Mitt...oh you so sexaaay.

It's why John McCain failed, Republicans think he was a moron for going
to Viet Nam and getting his ass shot down and being a huge
embarrassment, he should have stayed home dodged the draft and
paaaaaaaaartay!


If that's true, it's rather odd that the Republicans picked both of those
men to be their presidential candidate. George Will recently said that
what Trump has done is worse than Nixon. He said Nixon did his dirty deeds
in secret, he hid them and when they were exposed, it brought him down.
Trump does his lying, insulting, vilifying, dividing, openly and brazenly.
And that will be much harder to get over, he's normalized the despicable.

The question to me is, do the Trump haters respect the concept of
citizens electing their leaders, or do they think that they are always
right and the flyover hicks are wrong?

In some areas of science and engineering, rightness is mathematically
provable. In more complex and chaotic systems, the interesting cases,
it's not, but that doesn't stop people from thinking they are right.
Quite the opposite. Belief becomes tribal when not corrected by
experiment.

I used to really appreciate George Will, but I fear he has become
another victim of Washington institutional capture.

 

[bitrex]

On 8/29/19 1:36 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek



You get your news via Pony Express or similar? Been in a coma?




trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get
an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What
an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed
it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies. He tells
one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him
on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them. I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump. I thought
that when he leveled that vile insult at McCain and they followed up
by disparaging all POWs, 'I prefer the ones that were not captured".
that it would be the end of him. That happened early on in the
primary campaign, right after he announced. If anything, it just
propelled him on. That's when I knew something very strange and very
bad was happening.





It's why he succeeded while Mitt Romney fell flat on his face can you
imagine Mitt ever saying he liked to grab some pussy from time to time?
oooh yeah Mitt, grab me by the pussy Mitt...oh you so sexaaay.

It's why John McCain failed, Republicans think he was a moron for going
to Viet Nam and getting his ass shot down and being a huge
embarrassment, he should have stayed home dodged the draft and
paaaaaaaaartay!


If that's true, it's rather odd that the Republicans picked both of those
men to be their presidential candidate. George Will recently said that
what Trump has done is worse than Nixon. He said Nixon did his dirty deeds
in secret, he hid them and when they were exposed, it brought him down.
Trump does his lying, insulting, vilifying, dividing, openly and brazenly.
And that will be much harder to get over, he's normalized the despicable.



The question to me is, do the Trump haters respect the concept of
citizens electing their leaders, or do they think that they are always
right and the flyover hicks are wrong?

There's a difference between respecting the concept and respecting the
choice that particular citizens have have made, in practice.

e.g. in the military you salute the office and the rank. not the man. I
do not have to love every individual police officer to respect the
office and capacity of the official title of "Police Officer"

In some areas of science and engineering, rightness is mathematically
provable. In more complex and chaotic systems, the interesting cases,
it's not, but that doesn't stop people from thinking they are right.
Quite the opposite. Belief becomes tribal when not corrected by
experiment.

I used to really appreciate George Will, but I fear he has become
another victim of Washington institutional capture.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek



You get your news via Pony Express or similar? Been in a coma?




trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get
an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What
an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed
it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies. He tells
one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him
on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them. I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump. I thought
that when he leveled that vile insult at McCain and they followed up
by disparaging all POWs, 'I prefer the ones that were not captured".
that it would be the end of him. That happened early on in the
primary campaign, right after he announced. If anything, it just
propelled him on. That's when I knew something very strange and very
bad was happening.





It's why he succeeded while Mitt Romney fell flat on his face can you
imagine Mitt ever saying he liked to grab some pussy from time to time?
oooh yeah Mitt, grab me by the pussy Mitt...oh you so sexaaay.

It's why John McCain failed, Republicans think he was a moron for going
to Viet Nam and getting his ass shot down and being a huge
embarrassment, he should have stayed home dodged the draft and
paaaaaaaaartay!


If that's true, it's rather odd that the Republicans picked both of those
men to be their presidential candidate. George Will recently said that
what Trump has done is worse than Nixon. He said Nixon did his dirty deeds
in secret, he hid them and when they were exposed, it brought him down.
Trump does his lying, insulting, vilifying, dividing, openly and brazenly.
And that will be much harder to get over, he's normalized the despicable.



The question to me is, do the Trump haters respect the concept of
citizens electing their leaders, or do they think that they are always
right and the flyover hicks are wrong?

In some areas of science and engineering, rightness is mathematically
provable. In more complex and chaotic systems, the interesting cases,
it's not, but that doesn't stop people from thinking they are right.
Quite the opposite. Belief becomes tribal when not corrected by
experiment.

I used to really appreciate George Will, but I fear he has become
another victim of Washington institutional capture.

If the Liberals controlled everything for very long, the farmers would be bankrupt. Then the Liberals would have to learn to grow their own food, or die.

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christense]

torsdag den 29. august 2019 kl. 19.11.47 UTC+2 skrev bloggs.fre...@gmail.com:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek


Greenland is Denmark's Pine Ridge Indian Reservation with 70% of the population, who are mostly Inuit, living in poverty, unemployment and alcoholism. The place is a wasteland and human dump. Of course things may change when the deep snow melts and better roads can be built to allow access to the purported very large reserves of precious metals there. And, as with Alaska, the government will buy off the Indians with some small annual stipend while their land gets permanently trashed.

The aid to Greenland each year from the Danish state is roughly $600million (about $12000 per greenlander)

revenue from natural resources will be shared equally between Denmark and Greenland

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 4:19:09 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek



You get your news via Pony Express or similar? Been in a coma?




trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get
an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What
an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed
it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies. He tells
one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him
on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them. I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump. I thought
that when he leveled that vile insult at McCain and they followed up
by disparaging all POWs, 'I prefer the ones that were not captured".
that it would be the end of him. That happened early on in the
primary campaign, right after he announced. If anything, it just
propelled him on. That's when I knew something very strange and very
bad was happening.





It's why he succeeded while Mitt Romney fell flat on his face can you
imagine Mitt ever saying he liked to grab some pussy from time to time?
oooh yeah Mitt, grab me by the pussy Mitt...oh you so sexaaay.

It's why John McCain failed, Republicans think he was a moron for going
to Viet Nam and getting his ass shot down and being a huge
embarrassment, he should have stayed home dodged the draft and
paaaaaaaaartay!


If that's true, it's rather odd that the Republicans picked both of those
men to be their presidential candidate. George Will recently said that
what Trump has done is worse than Nixon. He said Nixon did his dirty deeds
in secret, he hid them and when they were exposed, it brought him down.
Trump does his lying, insulting, vilifying, dividing, openly and brazenly.
And that will be much harder to get over, he's normalized the despicable.



The question to me is, do the Trump haters respect the concept of
citizens electing their leaders, or do they think that they are always
right and the flyover hicks are wrong?

In some areas of science and engineering, rightness is mathematically
provable. In more complex and chaotic systems, the interesting cases,
it's not, but that doesn't stop people from thinking they are right.
Quite the opposite. Belief becomes tribal when not corrected by
experiment.

I used to really appreciate George Will, but I fear he has become
another victim of Washington institutional capture.

If the Liberals controlled everything for very long, the farmers would be bankrupt. Then the Liberals would have to learn to grow their own food, or die.

That is an interesting claim to make, when it's actually Trump that has
many farmers in dire straits and on new govt welfare for farmers
that he came up with, $32 bil so far. You should go look at the recent
meeting he held in the oval office with farmers and his staff. Round
and round they went, talking about how Trump's recent changes to ethanol
rules are harming farmers too. One aid after another brainstormed
about everything from more govt programs to try to patch it up to forcing
Detroit to build ethanol cars. Missing in all that was anyone saying,
WTF are we talking about? This is an example of what happens with big
govt ideas, big govt programs and we need to get out of all of this.
Would be especially nice if we had a president that could say that.
Instead, Trump sat their like a chairman of the old USSR, trying to
make sense of farm markets, ethanol production, all the govt programs,
all the govt rules, all the govt controls and figure out what to do to
add yet another patch.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek



You get your news via Pony Express or similar? Been in a coma?




trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get
an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What
an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed
it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies. He tells
one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him
on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them. I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump. I thought
that when he leveled that vile insult at McCain and they followed up
by disparaging all POWs, 'I prefer the ones that were not captured".
that it would be the end of him. That happened early on in the
primary campaign, right after he announced. If anything, it just
propelled him on. That's when I knew something very strange and very
bad was happening.





It's why he succeeded while Mitt Romney fell flat on his face can you
imagine Mitt ever saying he liked to grab some pussy from time to time?
oooh yeah Mitt, grab me by the pussy Mitt...oh you so sexaaay.

It's why John McCain failed, Republicans think he was a moron for going
to Viet Nam and getting his ass shot down and being a huge
embarrassment, he should have stayed home dodged the draft and
paaaaaaaaartay!


If that's true, it's rather odd that the Republicans picked both of those
men to be their presidential candidate. George Will recently said that
what Trump has done is worse than Nixon. He said Nixon did his dirty deeds
in secret, he hid them and when they were exposed, it brought him down.
Trump does his lying, insulting, vilifying, dividing, openly and brazenly.
And that will be much harder to get over, he's normalized the despicable..



The question to me is, do the Trump haters respect the concept of
citizens electing their leaders, or do they think that they are always
right and the flyover hicks are wrong?

That obviously will differ among all the people who dislike and don't
approve of Trump.

In some areas of science and engineering, rightness is mathematically
provable. In more complex and chaotic systems, the interesting cases,
it's not, but that doesn't stop people from thinking they are right.
Quite the opposite. Belief becomes tribal when not corrected by
experiment.

I used to really appreciate George Will, but I fear he has become
another victim of Washington institutional capture.

I don't see that. I see a guy who like many of us saw what Trump was from
the very beginning and tried to warn everyone. George Will just isn't
going to sell his soul to the orange clown, as sadly so many others have.
Funny thing, those that have, there is now a huge wake of them, left in
Trump's debris field, as he throws them under the bus. Yet, amazingly
there are plenty more willing to go do a deal with the devil.

It's becoming increasingly obviously that Trump isn't right in the head,
he's becoming more and more erratic, which should be a concern to all.
He's even done a full turn on Fox now, mad that even Fox presents things
that don't make him look good. Like they did a poll that showed him
losing to the Democrats. Trump thinks that it's Fox's job to bury that,
to lie, to make things up that make Trump look good.


"I don’t want to Win for myself, I only want to Win for the people. The New @FoxNews is letting millions of GREAT people down! We have to start looking for a new News Outlet. Fox isn’t working for us anymore!
7:03 AM - 28 Aug 2019



It's always about Trump, Trump, Trump. It doesn't matter if you're
a murdering despot
starving people to death or Mother Theresa. It's all based on how you
treat Trump, the almighty, that's all that matters.

Did you see one of his latest tweets:


"There has never been a time in the history of our Country that the Media was so Fraudulent, Fake, or Corrupt! When the “Age of Trump” is looked back on many years from now, I only hope that a big part of my legacy will be the exposing of massive dishonesty in the Fake News!"



The "Age of Trump"? Need any more proof he at least has a narcissism disorder?
And he speaks of fake news, when he's the biggest liar I have ever seen.
He even lied at the G7, with her sitting in the front row, he told the world
press that she has gotten to know KJU too. So, the press scratches their
heads, starts checking, does their job and within hours the WH has to
admit she's never even met KJU. And then Trump gets mad, claiming it's
fake news. Just another day in Crazytown.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:47:26 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
<trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek



You get your news via Pony Express or similar? Been in a coma?




trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get
an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What
an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed
it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies. He tells
one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him
on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them. I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump. I thought
that when he leveled that vile insult at McCain and they followed up
by disparaging all POWs, 'I prefer the ones that were not captured".
that it would be the end of him. That happened early on in the
primary campaign, right after he announced. If anything, it just
propelled him on. That's when I knew something very strange and very
bad was happening.





It's why he succeeded while Mitt Romney fell flat on his face can you
imagine Mitt ever saying he liked to grab some pussy from time to time?
oooh yeah Mitt, grab me by the pussy Mitt...oh you so sexaaay.

It's why John McCain failed, Republicans think he was a moron for going
to Viet Nam and getting his ass shot down and being a huge
embarrassment, he should have stayed home dodged the draft and
paaaaaaaaartay!


If that's true, it's rather odd that the Republicans picked both of those
men to be their presidential candidate. George Will recently said that
what Trump has done is worse than Nixon. He said Nixon did his dirty deeds
in secret, he hid them and when they were exposed, it brought him down.
Trump does his lying, insulting, vilifying, dividing, openly and brazenly.
And that will be much harder to get over, he's normalized the despicable.



The question to me is, do the Trump haters respect the concept of
citizens electing their leaders, or do they think that they are always
right and the flyover hicks are wrong?

That obviously will differ among all the people who dislike and don't
approve of Trump.



In some areas of science and engineering, rightness is mathematically
provable. In more complex and chaotic systems, the interesting cases,
it's not, but that doesn't stop people from thinking they are right.
Quite the opposite. Belief becomes tribal when not corrected by
experiment.

I used to really appreciate George Will, but I fear he has become
another victim of Washington institutional capture.

I don't see that. I see a guy who like many of us saw what Trump was from
the very beginning and tried to warn everyone. George Will just isn't
going to sell his soul to the orange clown, as sadly so many others have.
Funny thing, those that have, there is now a huge wake of them, left in
Trump's debris field, as he throws them under the bus. Yet, amazingly
there are plenty more willing to go do a deal with the devil.

It's becoming increasingly obviously that Trump isn't right in the head,
he's becoming more and more erratic, which should be a concern to all.
He's even done a full turn on Fox now, mad that even Fox presents things
that don't make him look good. Like they did a poll that showed him
losing to the Democrats. Trump thinks that it's Fox's job to bury that,
to lie, to make things up that make Trump look good.

What you are saying is that you don't respect the idea of democracy,
that different people have different opinions, and that we vote and
respect the outcome in a civilized manner.

So, flame on.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 29/08/19 22:29, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:47:26 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek



You get your news via Pony Express or similar? Been in a coma?




trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get
an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What
an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed
it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies. He tells
one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him
on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them. I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump. I thought
that when he leveled that vile insult at McCain and they followed up
by disparaging all POWs, 'I prefer the ones that were not captured".
that it would be the end of him. That happened early on in the
primary campaign, right after he announced. If anything, it just
propelled him on. That's when I knew something very strange and very
bad was happening.





It's why he succeeded while Mitt Romney fell flat on his face can you
imagine Mitt ever saying he liked to grab some pussy from time to time?
oooh yeah Mitt, grab me by the pussy Mitt...oh you so sexaaay.

It's why John McCain failed, Republicans think he was a moron for going
to Viet Nam and getting his ass shot down and being a huge
embarrassment, he should have stayed home dodged the draft and
paaaaaaaaartay!


If that's true, it's rather odd that the Republicans picked both of those
men to be their presidential candidate. George Will recently said that
what Trump has done is worse than Nixon. He said Nixon did his dirty deeds
in secret, he hid them and when they were exposed, it brought him down.
Trump does his lying, insulting, vilifying, dividing, openly and brazenly.
And that will be much harder to get over, he's normalized the despicable.



The question to me is, do the Trump haters respect the concept of
citizens electing their leaders, or do they think that they are always
right and the flyover hicks are wrong?

That obviously will differ among all the people who dislike and don't
approve of Trump.



In some areas of science and engineering, rightness is mathematically
provable. In more complex and chaotic systems, the interesting cases,
it's not, but that doesn't stop people from thinking they are right.
Quite the opposite. Belief becomes tribal when not corrected by
experiment.

I used to really appreciate George Will, but I fear he has become
another victim of Washington institutional capture.

I don't see that. I see a guy who like many of us saw what Trump was from
the very beginning and tried to warn everyone. George Will just isn't
going to sell his soul to the orange clown, as sadly so many others have.
Funny thing, those that have, there is now a huge wake of them, left in
Trump's debris field, as he throws them under the bus. Yet, amazingly
there are plenty more willing to go do a deal with the devil.

It's becoming increasingly obviously that Trump isn't right in the head,
he's becoming more and more erratic, which should be a concern to all.
He's even done a full turn on Fox now, mad that even Fox presents things
that don't make him look good. Like they did a poll that showed him
losing to the Democrats. Trump thinks that it's Fox's job to bury that,
to lie, to make things up that make Trump look good.


What you are saying is that you don't respect the idea of democracy,
that different people have different opinions, and that we vote and
respect the outcome in a civilized manner.

That should be a two way street. Once elected, the
office holder should respect the opinions of those
that did not vote for him.

I'm speaking from a country which, until last week,
was a representative democracy, but now is a elected
dictatorship - just like Putin's Russia.

Yes, our PM has just told my elected representative
to fuck off and come back when it is too late to
represent the opinion of those that elected him.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 5:29:21 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:47:26 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek



You get your news via Pony Express or similar? Been in a coma?




trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get
an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What
an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed
it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies. He tells
one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him
on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them. I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump. I thought
that when he leveled that vile insult at McCain and they followed up
by disparaging all POWs, 'I prefer the ones that were not captured".
that it would be the end of him. That happened early on in the
primary campaign, right after he announced. If anything, it just
propelled him on. That's when I knew something very strange and very
bad was happening.





It's why he succeeded while Mitt Romney fell flat on his face can you
imagine Mitt ever saying he liked to grab some pussy from time to time?
oooh yeah Mitt, grab me by the pussy Mitt...oh you so sexaaay.

It's why John McCain failed, Republicans think he was a moron for going
to Viet Nam and getting his ass shot down and being a huge
embarrassment, he should have stayed home dodged the draft and
paaaaaaaaartay!


If that's true, it's rather odd that the Republicans picked both of those
men to be their presidential candidate. George Will recently said that
what Trump has done is worse than Nixon. He said Nixon did his dirty deeds
in secret, he hid them and when they were exposed, it brought him down.
Trump does his lying, insulting, vilifying, dividing, openly and brazenly.
And that will be much harder to get over, he's normalized the despicable.



The question to me is, do the Trump haters respect the concept of
citizens electing their leaders, or do they think that they are always
right and the flyover hicks are wrong?

That obviously will differ among all the people who dislike and don't
approve of Trump.



In some areas of science and engineering, rightness is mathematically
provable. In more complex and chaotic systems, the interesting cases,
it's not, but that doesn't stop people from thinking they are right.
Quite the opposite. Belief becomes tribal when not corrected by
experiment.

I used to really appreciate George Will, but I fear he has become
another victim of Washington institutional capture.

I don't see that. I see a guy who like many of us saw what Trump was from
the very beginning and tried to warn everyone. George Will just isn't
going to sell his soul to the orange clown, as sadly so many others have.
Funny thing, those that have, there is now a huge wake of them, left in
Trump's debris field, as he throws them under the bus. Yet, amazingly
there are plenty more willing to go do a deal with the devil.

It's becoming increasingly obviously that Trump isn't right in the head,
he's becoming more and more erratic, which should be a concern to all.
He's even done a full turn on Fox now, mad that even Fox presents things
that don't make him look good. Like they did a poll that showed him
losing to the Democrats. Trump thinks that it's Fox's job to bury that,
to lie, to make things up that make Trump look good.


What you are saying is that you don't respect the idea of democracy,
that different people have different opinions, and that we vote and
respect the outcome in a civilized manner.

So, flame on.

I don't see how you get that from anything I said. I look at the facts,
at reality, at what I see each day. And I refuse to mindlessly support
someone who is a lying, incompetent mental case that embarrasses
this country most days. It really is that simple.
You;re the one that apparently doesn't respect democracy,
because democracy includes the rights of free speech and dissent.
Somehow that's lost on Trump and the trumpets. Oddly they didn't have
that problem when Obama was president. BTW, what did Trump do when
Obama was president? Did he sit down and shut up? Did he respect
Obama? Why no, he was a leading birther, lying, claiming that OBama
wasn't born in the USA. There's democracy for you.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 6:26:49 PM UTC-4, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 29/08/19 22:29, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:47:26 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

Mikek



You get your news via Pony Express or similar? Been in a coma?




trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get
an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What
an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed
it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies. He tells
one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him
on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them. I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump. I thought
that when he leveled that vile insult at McCain and they followed up
by disparaging all POWs, 'I prefer the ones that were not captured".
that it would be the end of him. That happened early on in the
primary campaign, right after he announced. If anything, it just
propelled him on. That's when I knew something very strange and very
bad was happening.





It's why he succeeded while Mitt Romney fell flat on his face can you
imagine Mitt ever saying he liked to grab some pussy from time to time?
oooh yeah Mitt, grab me by the pussy Mitt...oh you so sexaaay.

It's why John McCain failed, Republicans think he was a moron for going
to Viet Nam and getting his ass shot down and being a huge
embarrassment, he should have stayed home dodged the draft and
paaaaaaaaartay!


If that's true, it's rather odd that the Republicans picked both of those
men to be their presidential candidate. George Will recently said that
what Trump has done is worse than Nixon. He said Nixon did his dirty deeds
in secret, he hid them and when they were exposed, it brought him down.
Trump does his lying, insulting, vilifying, dividing, openly and brazenly.
And that will be much harder to get over, he's normalized the despicable.



The question to me is, do the Trump haters respect the concept of
citizens electing their leaders, or do they think that they are always
right and the flyover hicks are wrong?

That obviously will differ among all the people who dislike and don't
approve of Trump.



In some areas of science and engineering, rightness is mathematically
provable. In more complex and chaotic systems, the interesting cases,
it's not, but that doesn't stop people from thinking they are right.
Quite the opposite. Belief becomes tribal when not corrected by
experiment.

I used to really appreciate George Will, but I fear he has become
another victim of Washington institutional capture.

I don't see that. I see a guy who like many of us saw what Trump was from
the very beginning and tried to warn everyone. George Will just isn't
going to sell his soul to the orange clown, as sadly so many others have.
Funny thing, those that have, there is now a huge wake of them, left in
Trump's debris field, as he throws them under the bus. Yet, amazingly
there are plenty more willing to go do a deal with the devil.

It's becoming increasingly obviously that Trump isn't right in the head,
he's becoming more and more erratic, which should be a concern to all.
He's even done a full turn on Fox now, mad that even Fox presents things
that don't make him look good. Like they did a poll that showed him
losing to the Democrats. Trump thinks that it's Fox's job to bury that,
to lie, to make things up that make Trump look good.


What you are saying is that you don't respect the idea of democracy,
that different people have different opinions, and that we vote and
respect the outcome in a civilized manner.

That should be a two way street. Once elected, the
office holder should respect the opinions of those
that did not vote for him.

Correct, that's another good point. We had Trump in France,
disparaging Obama, again, one of his favorite activities,
when there was absolutely no need to do it. He made the silly
claim that Russia seizing Crimea was somehow all Obama's fault
and instead of placing the blame in the right place, with PUTIN,
Trump was again being Putin's puppet and lobbying the G7 to
let Russia back in. And he also attacked
our press. He even tweeted that all the leaders are asking
him why does the American press hate our country? Why are
they trying to destroy it? You'd have to be a full on trumptard
to believe that really happened, that those sane, normal world
leaders would be asking Trump that. And again, Trump is on foreign
soil, attacking what he doesn't like about America. He's
showing no respect for the office, yet he thinks we should respect
him? You get respect by earning it.

I'm speaking from a country which, until last week,
was a representative democracy, but now is a elected
dictatorship - just like Putin's Russia.

Yes, our PM has just told my elected representative
to fuck off and come back when it is too late to
represent the opinion of those that elected him.

Yeah, I don;t really understand what's going on there, certainly
doesn't sound right.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 29/08/19 23:26, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 29/08/19 22:29, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:47:26 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 at 1:36:47 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:44:54 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 7:44:07 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 7:31 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 2:09:21 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 8/28/19 1:44 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 1:16:59 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
That would be great! We could send all asylum seekers there until they
get their court date,
rather then release them into the states never to be seen again. Great
idea Trump. \

                                           Mikek



You get your news via Pony Express or similar?  Been in a coma?




trumpets think that if they say "great idea Trump" enough they might get
an invitation at kneeling down and kissing his wrinkly orange butt. What
an honor!

It's simply stunning how Trump hijacked the Republican Party and robbed
it of all it's principles, morality and it's policies.  He tells
one lie after another, says stupid or horrible things, and they cheer him
on.

Lol but the Republican party has been 85% cowardly do-as-I-say-not-as-I
do hypocritical I'm-against-"handouts"-for-everybody-but-me racist
slimeballs for 50 years, probably.

Trump didn't "hijack" anything Trump was the guy American Republicans
always wanted for long time.

Maybe so, we;ll see how it ultimately turns out for them.  I warned
everyone I could about Trump when there were 15 other candidates that
were decent and sane, but the trumpets had to have Trump.  I thought
that when he leveled that vile insult at McCain and they followed up
by disparaging all POWs, 'I prefer the ones that were not captured".
that it would be the end of him.  That happened early on in the
primary campaign, right after he announced.  If anything, it just
propelled him on.  That's when I knew something very strange and very
bad was happening.





It's why he succeeded while Mitt Romney fell flat on his face can you
imagine Mitt ever saying he liked to grab some pussy from time to time?
oooh yeah Mitt, grab me by the pussy Mitt...oh you so sexaaay.

It's why John McCain failed, Republicans think he was a moron for going
to Viet Nam and getting his ass shot down and being a huge
embarrassment, he should have stayed home dodged the draft and
paaaaaaaaartay!


If that's true, it's rather odd that the Republicans picked both of those
men to be their presidential candidate.  George Will recently said that
what Trump has done is worse than Nixon.  He said Nixon did his dirty deeds
in secret, he hid them and when they were exposed, it brought him down.
Trump does his lying, insulting, vilifying, dividing, openly and brazenly.
And that will be much harder to get over, he's normalized the despicable.



The question to me is, do the Trump haters respect the concept of
citizens electing their leaders, or do they think that they are always
right and the flyover hicks are wrong?

That obviously will differ among all the people who dislike and don't
approve of Trump.



In some areas of science and engineering, rightness is mathematically
provable. In more complex and chaotic systems, the interesting cases,
it's not, but that doesn't stop people from thinking they are right.
Quite the opposite. Belief becomes tribal when not corrected by
experiment.

I used to really appreciate George Will, but I fear he has become
another victim of Washington institutional capture.

I don't see that.  I see a guy who like many of us saw what Trump was from
the very beginning and tried to warn everyone.  George Will just isn't
going to sell his soul to the orange clown, as sadly so many others have.
Funny thing, those that have, there is now a huge wake of them, left in
Trump's debris field, as he throws them under the bus.  Yet, amazingly
there are plenty more willing to go do a deal with the devil.

It's becoming increasingly obviously that Trump isn't right in the head,
he's becoming more and more erratic, which should be a concern to all.
He's even done a full turn on Fox now, mad that even Fox presents things
that don't make him look good.  Like they did a poll that showed him
losing to the Democrats.  Trump thinks that it's Fox's job to bury that,
to lie, to make things up that make Trump look good.


What you are saying is that you don't respect the idea of democracy,
that different people have different opinions, and that we vote and
respect the outcome in a civilized manner.

That should be a two way street. Once elected, the
office holder should respect the opinions of those
that did not vote for him.

I'm speaking from a country which, until last week,
was a representative democracy, but now is a elected
dictatorship - just like Putin's Russia.

Whoops, silly me.

I live in an *un*elected dictatorship.

*Nobody* voted for the current PM to be the PM!

The nearest to that was that up to 71954 people
could vote for him, and 23716 people did.

No, there are no missing digits in those numbers.

Yes, our PM has just told my elected representative
to fuck off and come back when it is too late to
represent the opinion of those that elected him.