battery question

On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:48:46 +0800, Clocky wrote:

On 27/08/2014 10:33 AM, news13 wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:59:27 +0000, Frank Slootweg wrote:



Well no, with UNIX you had to recompile to include the driver.

that might explain where you were going wrong. Unix or Linux?

In 1983? You work it out!

Stop nitpicking! His only mistakes were that he didn't say *which*
'unix', said 'unix' when he - apparently - meant 'Linux' and had the
timeframe off by 8 years, that's all!

No Frank, I first used Unix in 1974. I know how it worked initially and
why stuff was eventually built into the kernel. Modularity was key
point in Unix. Linux was just a later sideline.


So why post "Unix or Linux" when it's abundantly clear that it wasn't
Linux in that timeframe you goose.

Just making sure.
You only needed to recompile stuff if you changed stuff, like hardware,

And with MS-DOS you simply loaded a driver - no reason to recompile
stuff and that was an important difference as I said before.

Lol, talk about a distortion. You could only load a driver if one was
available for the version you had. *nix went on so much more hard ware
and worked with so much more equipment than S Dos and later stuff ever
did.


You seem to think you know it all, and when it's clear that you don't
you shift the goalposts or engage in selective snipping in a desperate
attempt to cover up the evidence of your ignorance.

Are you sure that isn't you in your zealotry? You are so anyt-*nix
because of your inabilities, that it is amusing.
 
On 27/08/2014 10:33 AM, news13 wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:59:27 +0000, Frank Slootweg wrote:



Well no, with UNIX you had to recompile to include the driver.

that might explain where you were going wrong. Unix or Linux?

In 1983? You work it out!

Stop nitpicking! His only mistakes were that he didn't say *which*
'unix', said 'unix' when he - apparently - meant 'Linux' and had the
timeframe off by 8 years, that's all!

No Frank, I first used Unix in 1974. I know how it worked initially and
why stuff was eventually built into the kernel. Modularity was key point
in Unix. Linux was just a later sideline.

So why post "Unix or Linux" when it's abundantly clear that it wasn't
Linux in that timeframe you goose.

> You only needed to recompile stuff if you changed stuff, like hardware,

And with MS-DOS you simply loaded a driver - no reason to recompile
stuff and that was an important difference as I said before.

You seem to think you know it all, and when it's clear that you don't
you shift the goalposts or engage in selective snipping in a desperate
attempt to cover up the evidence of your ignorance.
 
news13 <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:59:27 +0000, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Well no, with UNIX you had to recompile to include the driver.

that might explain where you were going wrong. Unix or Linux?

In 1983? You work it out!

Stop nitpicking! His only mistakes were that he didn't say *which*
'unix', said 'unix' when he - apparently - meant 'Linux' and had the
timeframe off by 8 years, that's all!

No Frank, I first used Unix in 1974.

The eight years is from DOS 2.0 to Linux, nothing to do with 1974.

No Frank, I first used Unix in 1974. I know how it worked initially and
why stuff was eventually built into the kernel. Modularity was key point
in Unix. Linux was just a later sideline.

You only needed to recompile stuff if you changed stuff, like hardware,
host or otherwise. Interestingly, you could do that in unix. I don't
remember MS ever sharing source code so you could mix and match.

[I think you have the year 1974 quite wrong, but assuming for the moment
that you indeed used Unix at that time:]

In 1974 there was *no* Unix source available. Later it was available
for *purchase*, not free. BSD was closed source until 1991. Other
implementations like HP-UX, Ultrix and SunOS/Solaris were also closed
source.

[...]
 
On 27/08/2014 7:35 PM, news13 wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:48:46 +0800, Clocky wrote:



You seem to think you know it all, and when it's clear that you don't
you shift the goalposts or engage in selective snipping in a desperate
attempt to cover up the evidence of your ignorance.

Are you sure that isn't you in your zealotry? You are so anyt-*nix
because of your inabilities, that it is amusing.

this >no ability or understanding of the material as per usual<
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On 28/08/2014 4:52 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
news13 <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:59:27 +0000, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Well no, with UNIX you had to recompile to include the driver.

that might explain where you were going wrong. Unix or Linux?

In 1983? You work it out!

Stop nitpicking! His only mistakes were that he didn't say *which*
'unix', said 'unix' when he - apparently - meant 'Linux' and had the
timeframe off by 8 years, that's all!

No Frank, I first used Unix in 1974.

The eight years is from DOS 2.0 to Linux, nothing to do with 1974.

No Frank, I first used Unix in 1974. I know how it worked initially and
why stuff was eventually built into the kernel. Modularity was key point
in Unix. Linux was just a later sideline.

You only needed to recompile stuff if you changed stuff, like hardware,
host or otherwise. Interestingly, you could do that in unix. I don't
remember MS ever sharing source code so you could mix and match.

[I think you have the year 1974 quite wrong, but assuming for the moment
that you indeed used Unix at that time:]

In 1974 there was *no* Unix source available. Later it was available
for *purchase*, not free. BSD was closed source until 1991. Other
implementations like HP-UX, Ultrix and SunOS/Solaris were also closed
source.

[...]

Terry doesn't let the truth get in the way of his imagination...
 
On 27/08/2014 5:35 PM, news13 wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:48:46 +0800, Clocky wrote:

On 27/08/2014 10:33 AM, news13 wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:59:27 +0000, Frank Slootweg wrote:



Well no, with UNIX you had to recompile to include the driver.

that might explain where you were going wrong. Unix or Linux?

In 1983? You work it out!

Stop nitpicking! His only mistakes were that he didn't say *which*
'unix', said 'unix' when he - apparently - meant 'Linux' and had the
timeframe off by 8 years, that's all!

No Frank, I first used Unix in 1974. I know how it worked initially and
why stuff was eventually built into the kernel. Modularity was key
point in Unix. Linux was just a later sideline.


So why post "Unix or Linux" when it's abundantly clear that it wasn't
Linux in that timeframe you goose.

Just making sure.

You only needed to recompile stuff if you changed stuff, like hardware,

And with MS-DOS you simply loaded a driver - no reason to recompile
stuff and that was an important difference as I said before.

Lol, talk about a distortion. You could only load a driver if one was
available for the version you had.

Which is nonsense and just shows how ignorant you are of MS operating
systems and reveals a deep seated bias based on zealotry and not facts.

*nix went on so much more hard ware
and worked with so much more equipment than S Dos and later stuff ever
did.

In your imagination, sure.


You seem to think you know it all, and when it's clear that you don't
you shift the goalposts or engage in selective snipping in a desperate
attempt to cover up the evidence of your ignorance.

Are you sure that isn't you in your zealotry?

Given that it's you making bogus claims, shifting goalposts and snipping
context, I'm pretty sure.


You are so anyt-*nix
because of your inabilities, that it is amusing.

I'm replying to your factually inaccurate nonsense and all you are doing
is digging a deeper hole for yourself.
 
On 28/08/2014 5:28 AM, atec77 wrote:
On 27/08/2014 7:35 PM, news13 wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:48:46 +0800, Clocky wrote:



You seem to think you know it all, and when it's clear that you don't
you shift the goalposts or engage in selective snipping in a desperate
attempt to cover up the evidence of your ignorance.

Are you sure that isn't you in your zealotry? You are so anyt-*nix
because of your inabilities, that it is amusing.


this >no ability or understanding of the material as per usual

That's a given for you Baz.
 
On 28/08/2014 9:48 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 28/08/2014 5:28 AM, atec77 wrote:
On 27/08/2014 7:35 PM, news13 wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:48:46 +0800, Clocky wrote:

lah you uninformed lowbrow

You seem to think you know it all, and when it's clear that you don't
you shift the goalposts or engage in selective snipping in a desperate
attempt to cover up the evidence of your ignorance.

Are you sure that isn't you in your zealotry? You are so anyt-*nix
because of your inabilities, that it is amusing.


this >no ability or understanding of the material as per usual

That's a given for you Baz.
do better next time as currently your low-brown insults wouldn't bother
your inbred sister
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Only if you think bogans come from Bougainville!

No Bogan City is on the southern outskirts of Brissie.
But it is full of south sea islanders.

I remember it well. It's the white trash that live there that you
really have to look out for.

White trash moved out, they ran out of boot polish so they can't look like
the local yokels.

I lived in Woodridge between 2000-2003. Yeah... can't see myself
getting nostalgic and wanting to revisit there anytime soon.

But seriously, the only problems I had with the locals all happened to
be white trash. Some even tried to break into our villa even while we
were awake... Some of the food smells in the area were to die for
though.

Most likely from the smell of burning, half rotten animal carcases in the
backyard! :)
You're suppose to wear a toxic gas mask when you pass by such areas, or you
may pass out. :))
It's a habit we picked up from having a bit of neanderthal genes. ;-)
 
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:37:07 +1000, Damian wrote:



I don't thnk so. I know it's a mechanical type, reliable valve. I'm
not
sure the detials of it.
AGM battery websites most certainly have the details.

The SLA batteries I've examined are just a push on rubber cap over a
pipe. They will release pressure from charging too fast.

Valve regulated deep cycle batteries have valves internally. Excessive
pressurized air get out through the valve and then get used again.
So, it's a constact recycling mechanism.

Terrible grammar and misspelling due to the world's oldest well known oral
neurotoxin effect.

Red Bull?

Scotch
 
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:37:07 +1000, Damian wrote:



I don't thnk so. I know it's a mechanical type, reliable valve. I'm
not
sure the detials of it.
AGM battery websites most certainly have the details.

The SLA batteries I've examined are just a push on rubber cap over a
pipe. They will release pressure from charging too fast.

Valve regulated deep cycle batteries have valves internally. Excessive
pressurized air get out through the valve and then get used again.
So, it's a constact recycling mechanism.

Terrible grammar and misspelling due to the world's oldest well known
oral
neurotoxin effect.

Red Bull?

Whacky weed.
Nope.
You can eat whacky weed cookies, but I'm not into that shit.
Whacky weed works better into your lungs..
You should know, you grow them in the basement. :)
 
On 28/08/2014 8:27 AM, atec77 wrote:
On 28/08/2014 9:48 AM, Clocky wrote:
On 28/08/2014 5:28 AM, atec77 wrote:
On 27/08/2014 7:35 PM, news13 wrote:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:48:46 +0800, Clocky wrote:

lah you uninformed lowbrow

You seem to think you know it all, and when it's clear that you don't
you shift the goalposts or engage in selective snipping in a desperate
attempt to cover up the evidence of your ignorance.

Are you sure that isn't you in your zealotry? You are so anyt-*nix
because of your inabilities, that it is amusing.


this >no ability or understanding of the material as per usual

That's a given for you Baz.
do better next time as currently your low-brown insults wouldn't bother
your inbred sister

Thee rhetorical question to you being...
What is it with your obsession with the brown and mating?
 
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:37:07 +1000, Damian wrote:



I don't thnk so. I know it's a mechanical type, reliable valve. I'm
not
sure the detials of it.
AGM battery websites most certainly have the details.

The SLA batteries I've examined are just a push on rubber cap over a
pipe. They will release pressure from charging too fast.

Valve regulated deep cycle batteries have valves internally. Excessive
pressurized air get out through the valve and then get used again.
So, it's a constact recycling mechanism.

Terrible grammar and misspelling due to the world's oldest well known
oral
neurotoxin effect.

Red Bull?

Whacky weed.

Nope.

Yep.

You can eat whacky weed cookies, but I'm not into that shit.
Whacky weed works better into your lungs..
You should know, you grow them in the basement. :)

Don’t have a basement, stupid.
 
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:52:38 +0000, Frank Slootweg wrote:


In 1974 there was *no* Unix source available. Later it was available
for *purchase*, not free.

For commercial customer, maybe. For organisations who might write code
and had other hardware and OSs from the company, there was a "license".
Right place and right time, although it was summer holidays so I didn't
do much.

Other implementations like HP-UX, Ultrix and SunOS/Solaris
were also closed source.

You conflate closed source with inability to develope code, which wasn't
so. How do you think all those independent companies developed code to
ell to their customers??

How do you think the people that offered core hardware tuning services
got on? They weren't tied to the company either.

Shrug; I've been paid to work on all those OSs, plus <shudder> Xenix.
It is only X86 hardware running MS & other OSs(IBM, etc) that had to be
shutdown to load drivers.
 
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 06:56:38 +0800, Clocky wrote:

In 1974 there was *no* Unix source available. Later it was available
for *purchase*, not free. BSD was closed source until 1991. Other
implementations like HP-UX, Ultrix and SunOS/Solaris were also closed
source.

[...]


Terry doesn't let the truth get in the way of his imagination...

Sadly it is the truth for you pair of clowns. I was in the right place at
the right time for a first hands on. Funny how sales attempts go.
 
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 07:42:39 +0800, Clocky wrote:


I'm replying to your factually inaccurate nonsense and all you are doing
is digging a deeper hole for yourself.

In your little world. What system did you actually work on?
Or is yur knowledge gleamed from glossy sales brochures?
 
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:37:07 +1000, Damian wrote:



I don't thnk so. I know it's a mechanical type, reliable valve. I'm
not
sure the detials of it.
AGM battery websites most certainly have the details.

The SLA batteries I've examined are just a push on rubber cap over a
pipe. They will release pressure from charging too fast.

Valve regulated deep cycle batteries have valves internally. Excessive
pressurized air get out through the valve and then get used again.
So, it's a constact recycling mechanism.

Terrible grammar and misspelling due to the world's oldest well known
oral
neurotoxin effect.

Red Bull?

Whacky weed.
Nope.
You can eat whacky weed cookies, but I'm not into that shit.
Whacky weed works better into your lungs..
You should know, you grow them in the basement. :)

He might have home brewed beer in there :)

There's no way that Roddles smokes weed. That much is clear, based on
his posts over the years. He'd be much more into prescription drugs,
if anything.
 
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:37:07 +1000, Damian wrote:



I don't thnk so. I know it's a mechanical type, reliable valve. I'm
not
sure the detials of it.
AGM battery websites most certainly have the details.

The SLA batteries I've examined are just a push on rubber cap over a
pipe. They will release pressure from charging too fast.

Valve regulated deep cycle batteries have valves internally.
Excessive
pressurized air get out through the valve and then get used again.
So, it's a constact recycling mechanism.

Terrible grammar and misspelling due to the world's oldest well known
oral
neurotoxin effect.

Red Bull?

Whacky weed.
Nope.
You can eat whacky weed cookies, but I'm not into that shit.
Whacky weed works better into your lungs..
You should know, you grow them in the basement. :)

He might have home brewed beer in there :)

Bit hard given that there is no basement.

There's no way that Roddles smokes weed. That
much is clear, based on his posts over the years.

True.

> He'd be much more into prescription drugs, if anything.

Wrong, as always.
 
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:37:07 +1000, Damian wrote:



I don't thnk so. I know it's a mechanical type, reliable valve.
I'm
not
sure the detials of it.
AGM battery websites most certainly have the details.

The SLA batteries I've examined are just a push on rubber cap over
a
pipe. They will release pressure from charging too fast.

Valve regulated deep cycle batteries have valves internally.
Excessive
pressurized air get out through the valve and then get used again.
So, it's a constact recycling mechanism.

Terrible grammar and misspelling due to the world's oldest well known
oral
neurotoxin effect.

Red Bull?

Whacky weed.
Nope.
You can eat whacky weed cookies, but I'm not into that shit.
Whacky weed works better into your lungs..
You should know, you grow them in the basement. :)

He might have home brewed beer in there :)

Bit hard given that there is no basement.

There's no way that Roddles smokes weed. That
much is clear, based on his posts over the years.

True.

He'd be much more into prescription drugs, if anything.

Wrong, as always.

If he is always wrong? How can you say true to one of his statements??
 
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 14:37:07 +1000, Damian wrote:



I don't thnk so. I know it's a mechanical type, reliable valve.
I'm
not
sure the detials of it.
AGM battery websites most certainly have the details.

The SLA batteries I've examined are just a push on rubber cap over
a
pipe. They will release pressure from charging too fast.

Valve regulated deep cycle batteries have valves internally.
Excessive
pressurized air get out through the valve and then get used again.
So, it's a constact recycling mechanism.

Terrible grammar and misspelling due to the world's oldest well known
oral
neurotoxin effect.

Red Bull?

Whacky weed.
Nope.
You can eat whacky weed cookies, but I'm not into that shit.
Whacky weed works better into your lungs..
You should know, you grow them in the basement. :)

He might have home brewed beer in there :)

Bit hard given that there is no basement.

There's no way that Roddles smokes weed. That
much is clear, based on his posts over the years.

True.

He'd be much more into prescription drugs, if anything.

Wrong, as always.


If he is always wrong?

No if about it.

> How can you say true to one of his statements??

Very easily, stupid.
 

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