Apology on behalf of the United States of America

[bitrex]

On 10/24/19 9:27 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups.com:

The founders understood
what they were doing. It's worked perfectly fine here and will
continue to do so,

You are such a fucking retard. You have no clue what their
reasons
were. Many still had hooks in slavery.

I see. He who claims to be a Republican is now advancing the
party line of the nuttiest of the libs, that the US was founded on
slavery. Not that it matters, because slavery is irrelevant.








And the reason for it is no longer valid, if it ever was.

Since we see perfectly well that it was not only voters that
got
influenced by foreign players.

What's this newest conspiracy theory? Just like Trump?


And meanwhile, here you are, always bitching about Trump, but you
claim to be a Republican. It's the Republicans, including you,
who continue to support him and enable him. If ten or twenty
percent of the GOP left the party in disgust, like I did, this
insanity would come to an end.


I said nothing about the US being founded on slavery, you stupid,
illiterate fucktard!

You just dragged slavery into the electoral college. That sounds very
much what the lib loons are doing, trying to drag slavery into the
founding of America, claiming that America was founded on slavery.


It wasn't founded on slavery so much as that slavery at the time was
simply a fact of life.

I agree. But some of the screwy libs are claiming that the US was
founded on slavery. And many of them and more want reparations, as if
paying someone today for something from 150 years ago makes any sense.

The good news is that I'm not required to agree with every other liberal
in America on every topic. Some of 'em I don't even like that much. Oh well.

A main issue some of the black people I know have at this point in
history is not about any reparations for distant history it's about when
police shoot and kill an unarmed person (often a black person, but it
happens to other types of people too), or otherwise cause someone in
their custody to die, that is at the very least manslaughter and should
always be treated at such from a legal perspective. it's not "oops we
made a logistical error."

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:48b6e9eb-ff71-47db-b9c4-56239595ae7e@googlegroups.com:

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 12:27:37 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:343fd442-7654-4d7e-98aa-6493bb420ef5@googlegroups.com:

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex
wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups.com
:

The founders understood
what they were doing. It's worked perfectly fine here
and will continue to do so,

You are such a fucking retard. You have no clue what
their reasons
were. Many still had hooks in slavery.

I see. He who claims to be a Republican is now advancing
the party line of the nuttiest of the libs, that the US
was founded on slavery. Not that it matters, because
slavery is irrelevant.








And the reason for it is no longer valid, if it ever
was.

Since we see perfectly well that it was not only
voters that got
influenced by foreign players.

What's this newest conspiracy theory? Just like Trump?


And meanwhile, here you are, always bitching about Trump,
but you claim to be a Republican. It's the Republicans,
including you, who continue to support him and enable him.
If ten or twenty percent of the GOP left the party in
disgust, like I did, this insanity would come to an end.


I said nothing about the US being founded on slavery,
you stupid,
illiterate fucktard!

You just dragged slavery into the electoral college. That
sounds very much what the lib loons are doing, trying to
drag slavery into the founding of America, claiming that
America was founded on slavery.


It wasn't founded on slavery so much as that slavery at the
time was simply a fact of life.

I agree. But some of the screwy libs are claiming that the US
was founded on slavery. And many of them and more want
reparations, as if paying someone today for something from 150
years ago makes any sense.


Leave stupid shit out of the discussion. Nobody said any such
thing here. And any screwy libs have yet to chime in, so shutup,
stupid fuck.

YOU brought slavery into the discussion,

No, you retarded fuck. I said that the creation of the EC had some
hooks in slavery.

Then YOU spouted retarded horseshit about "the founding fathers",
and went on with YOUR retarded rambling about some stupid shit that
was NEVER said anywhere in the thread.

You dig, you STUPID MOTHERFUCKER!?

you used that word here
for the first time.

The word has "been used here" (in sed) several times over the
years. Again. Shut the fuck up, you retarded fuck.

Like Forest Gump said, stupid is as stupid
does.

And you prove just how fucking stupid you are every time you post.

> word, stupid.

Fact: You are mumbling again, boy.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 12:27:37 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:343fd442-7654-4d7e-98aa-6493bb420ef5@googlegroups.com:

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups.com:

The founders understood
what they were doing. It's worked perfectly fine here and
will continue to do so,

You are such a fucking retard. You have no clue what
their reasons
were. Many still had hooks in slavery.

I see. He who claims to be a Republican is now advancing the
party line of the nuttiest of the libs, that the US was
founded on slavery. Not that it matters, because slavery is
irrelevant.








And the reason for it is no longer valid, if it ever was.

Since we see perfectly well that it was not only voters
that got
influenced by foreign players.

What's this newest conspiracy theory? Just like Trump?


And meanwhile, here you are, always bitching about Trump, but
you claim to be a Republican. It's the Republicans,
including you, who continue to support him and enable him.
If ten or twenty percent of the GOP left the party in
disgust, like I did, this insanity would come to an end.


I said nothing about the US being founded on slavery, you
stupid,
illiterate fucktard!

You just dragged slavery into the electoral college. That
sounds very much what the lib loons are doing, trying to drag
slavery into the founding of America, claiming that America was
founded on slavery.


It wasn't founded on slavery so much as that slavery at the time
was simply a fact of life.

I agree. But some of the screwy libs are claiming that the US was
founded on slavery. And many of them and more want reparations,
as if paying someone today for something from 150 years ago makes
any sense.


Leave stupid shit out of the discussion. Nobody said any such
thing here. And any screwy libs have yet to chime in, so shutup,
stupid fuck.

YOU brought slavery into the discussion, you used that word here for
the first time. Like Forest Gump said, stupid is as stupid does.


word, stupid.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 12:16:37 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 10/24/19 9:27 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups.com:

The founders understood
what they were doing. It's worked perfectly fine here and will
continue to do so,

You are such a fucking retard. You have no clue what their
reasons
were. Many still had hooks in slavery.

I see. He who claims to be a Republican is now advancing the
party line of the nuttiest of the libs, that the US was founded on
slavery. Not that it matters, because slavery is irrelevant.








And the reason for it is no longer valid, if it ever was.

Since we see perfectly well that it was not only voters that
got
influenced by foreign players.

What's this newest conspiracy theory? Just like Trump?


And meanwhile, here you are, always bitching about Trump, but you
claim to be a Republican. It's the Republicans, including you,
who continue to support him and enable him. If ten or twenty
percent of the GOP left the party in disgust, like I did, this
insanity would come to an end.


I said nothing about the US being founded on slavery, you stupid,
illiterate fucktard!

You just dragged slavery into the electoral college. That sounds very
much what the lib loons are doing, trying to drag slavery into the
founding of America, claiming that America was founded on slavery.


It wasn't founded on slavery so much as that slavery at the time was
simply a fact of life.

I agree. But some of the screwy libs are claiming that the US was
founded on slavery. And many of them and more want reparations, as if
paying someone today for something from 150 years ago makes any sense.



The far left "movement" in America, such as it is, is pretty small
compared to some other places in the world.

That sure doesn't seem to be the case when you have twenty something
democrat lefties all running for president and only one more left-center guy,
Biden.




It has a loud voice and says

a lot of provocative things. That's fine with me that's part of the
concept of "freedom" and watching MAGA-types recoil in horror at
statements like "Hey, why don't we just buy all the homeless someplace
to live with taxpayer money?" can be amusing I'll admit. It probably
wouldn't cause the world to end. ohmahgawd they could all live somewhere!!!

Most of what passes for "leftism" here is just milquetoast centrism by
world standards asking stuff like "Hey wouldn't it be a great idea if
everyone had access to good-quality health care at low or no cost."

It's a lot more than that. Andy YinYang wants to give everyone of
legal age $1000 a month. All of the Democrats running favor free
healthcare for illegal aliens. All are in favor of sanctuary cities
and states and an open southern border. There are proposals for
free college education, canceling existing student debt, huge govt
spending with new programs, no plans for how to pay for it. It's
lib loony tunes time here. So loony, they may very well get Trump
re-elected.

But at the end of the day the actual far left has rather little real
power. There are very few Real Communists in the United States. There
are some, and I've met some of them. We don't really get along,
naturally, extremists don't tend to seek converts. But I'd reckon most
users here have never met a Real Communist in recent history.

You don't have to be an outright commie to wreck it all. Bernie is
certainly close enough and he knows plenty of commies.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 12:05:39 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 10/24/19 9:27 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups.com:

The founders understood
what they were doing. It's worked perfectly fine here and will
continue to do so,

You are such a fucking retard. You have no clue what their
reasons
were. Many still had hooks in slavery.

I see. He who claims to be a Republican is now advancing the
party line of the nuttiest of the libs, that the US was founded on
slavery. Not that it matters, because slavery is irrelevant.








And the reason for it is no longer valid, if it ever was.

Since we see perfectly well that it was not only voters that
got
influenced by foreign players.

What's this newest conspiracy theory? Just like Trump?


And meanwhile, here you are, always bitching about Trump, but you
claim to be a Republican. It's the Republicans, including you,
who continue to support him and enable him. If ten or twenty
percent of the GOP left the party in disgust, like I did, this
insanity would come to an end.


I said nothing about the US being founded on slavery, you stupid,
illiterate fucktard!

You just dragged slavery into the electoral college. That sounds very
much what the lib loons are doing, trying to drag slavery into the
founding of America, claiming that America was founded on slavery.


It wasn't founded on slavery so much as that slavery at the time was
simply a fact of life.

I agree. But some of the screwy libs are claiming that the US was
founded on slavery. And many of them and more want reparations, as if
paying someone today for something from 150 years ago makes any sense.



The good news is that I'm not required to agree with every other liberal
in America on every topic. Some of 'em I don't even like that much. Oh well.

A main issue some of the black people I know have at this point in
history is not about any reparations for distant history it's about when
police shoot and kill an unarmed person (often a black person, but it
happens to other types of people too), or otherwise cause someone in
their custody to die, that is at the very least manslaughter and should
always be treated at such from a legal perspective. it's not "oops we
made a logistical error."

The vast majority of those are not manslaughter. In fact the one that
started the Black Lies Matter movement, the Michael Brown shooting,
was based on lies. The BLM folks portrayed it just like you did above,
an innocent black guy was walking home and an evil white cop shot and
killed him. It was fully investigated by both the state and FBI/DOJ.
Both came to the same conclusions. Brown had just robbed a grocery
store, taking items and assaulting the clerk who tried to stop him.
The cop encountered Brown near the store and called him over to his
car. With the cop still inside the car, Brown assaulted him and tried
to get the cops gun. In the struggle, the gun went off, injuring
Brown. All that is fully supported by forensics. Brown then started
moving away from the car, the cop got out and ordered him to stop.
Instead he turned around and came charging back at the cop, at which
point the cop fired and killed him. Both investigations found the
shooting justified, as it should have been. But that didn't register
with the BLM crowd, the cop is always wrong.

Then there are others where bad things happened, perhaps mistakes were
made, but the person who got shot created the toxic, volatile situation.
Instead of complying, they run away, it's night, the cops can't see
too well, they pursue them, the perp turns around, the cop says he
saw them reaching in their pants or believed he saw a gun,
the cop fired. The mistake there is not
the cop's, it's the dope running, creating the toxic situation.

And finally, yes there are some where the cop clearly screwed up and
fired when they had no reason to do so. An example of that was in SC
I think, where the cop pulled over a black guy for a traffic stop,
the guy ran and the cop pursued him in daylight. There was video
that showed him shooting the guy when the guy was headed away from
him and was no apparent threat. He was tried and I think convicted.

The fact that the BLM crowd refuses to acknowledge the differences
in the above is why they have no credibility. to them, Michael Brown
was still just an unarmed black guy gunned down by a cop.

 

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:uge3relh4farnddfudu2n521gt5p1qe6o8@4ax.com:

rage
about some imagined wrong that you could do nothing about.

More like you imagining that someone is raging.

Your perception of reality has already been proven to be quite bent,
child.

 

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:uge3relh4farnddfudu2n521gt5p1qe6o8@4ax.com:

> the damage that your 24/7 rage does to your life

I am in no rage, dipshit.

I'd love to rage on your face with a blackjack though.

Remember those?

 

[bitrex]

On 10/24/19 2:04 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 12:16:37 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/24/19 9:27 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups.com:

The founders understood
what they were doing. It's worked perfectly fine here and will
continue to do so,

You are such a fucking retard. You have no clue what their
reasons
were. Many still had hooks in slavery.

I see. He who claims to be a Republican is now advancing the
party line of the nuttiest of the libs, that the US was founded on
slavery. Not that it matters, because slavery is irrelevant.








And the reason for it is no longer valid, if it ever was.

Since we see perfectly well that it was not only voters that
got
influenced by foreign players.

What's this newest conspiracy theory? Just like Trump?


And meanwhile, here you are, always bitching about Trump, but you
claim to be a Republican. It's the Republicans, including you,
who continue to support him and enable him. If ten or twenty
percent of the GOP left the party in disgust, like I did, this
insanity would come to an end.


I said nothing about the US being founded on slavery, you stupid,
illiterate fucktard!

You just dragged slavery into the electoral college. That sounds very
much what the lib loons are doing, trying to drag slavery into the
founding of America, claiming that America was founded on slavery.


It wasn't founded on slavery so much as that slavery at the time was
simply a fact of life.

I agree. But some of the screwy libs are claiming that the US was
founded on slavery. And many of them and more want reparations, as if
paying someone today for something from 150 years ago makes any sense.



The far left "movement" in America, such as it is, is pretty small
compared to some other places in the world.

That sure doesn't seem to be the case when you have twenty something
democrat lefties all running for president and only one more left-center guy,
Biden.

Nobody under 40 likes Biden. The guy is losing it already nearly as bad
as Trump is.

It has a loud voice and says
a lot of provocative things. That's fine with me that's part of the
concept of "freedom" and watching MAGA-types recoil in horror at
statements like "Hey, why don't we just buy all the homeless someplace
to live with taxpayer money?" can be amusing I'll admit. It probably
wouldn't cause the world to end. ohmahgawd they could all live somewhere!!!

Most of what passes for "leftism" here is just milquetoast centrism by
world standards asking stuff like "Hey wouldn't it be a great idea if
everyone had access to good-quality health care at low or no cost."

It's a lot more than that. Andy YinYang wants to give everyone of
legal age $1000 a month. All of the Democrats running favor free
healthcare for illegal aliens. All are in favor of sanctuary cities
and states and an open southern border. There are proposals for
free college education, canceling existing student debt, huge govt
spending with new programs, no plans for how to pay for it. It's
lib loony tunes time here. So loony, they may very well get Trump
re-elected.

Oh well we both think Yang is a loser candidate but for different
reasons, his $1000 UBI program is garbage not because UBI is IMO an
intrinsically bad idea necessarily, but because it comes along with a
10% VAT on all goods and services and at the expense of pretty much
every other government safety-net service for the poor.

$1000/month plus a 10% VAT on _all_ goods and services is a hand-out and
a gut punch simultaneously, to everyone but primarily again, the poor.
They definitely don't need a gut punch to go along with some new
program. $1000/month? Won't even cover housing and utility expenses in
many areas of the country. And as I understand it it's at the expense of
_all_ other social service programs like food stamps. what are they
going to eat, their utility bills?

And I'm perfectly ok with the cash not going to everyone. I don't need
an extra 1k a month give it to someone who does it would be a waste of
my time to even deal with the paperwork.

Having secure housing is a good idea, it's pretty hard to get a job and
work effectively when you're in a constant state of anxiety of whether
you're going to have anywhere to live next month. but Yang's ideas were
dreamed up in a corporate boardroom somewhere he seems to have no on the
ground experience with the destitute.

He's been super-wealthy so long he probably doesn't even know what
things cost anymore. Anyone candidate proposing new social programs of
any type aimed at the poor should at least be able to answer basic
questions about everyday life as a low-income person. What do things
cost. What kind of expenses do those people have. What does say a new
tire cost to replace when one gets a flat, so one can get to work and
not get fired. I doubt he'd be able to answer many of these simple
questions. His ideas are tits on a bull.

But at the end of the day the actual far left has rather little real
power. There are very few Real Communists in the United States. There
are some, and I've met some of them. We don't really get along,
naturally, extremists don't tend to seek converts. But I'd reckon most
users here have never met a Real Communist in recent history.

You don't have to be an outright commie to wreck it all. Bernie is
certainly close enough and he knows plenty of commies.

 

[bitrex]

On 10/24/19 1:58 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 12:05:39 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/24/19 9:27 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups.com:

The founders understood
what they were doing. It's worked perfectly fine here and will
continue to do so,

You are such a fucking retard. You have no clue what their
reasons
were. Many still had hooks in slavery.

I see. He who claims to be a Republican is now advancing the
party line of the nuttiest of the libs, that the US was founded on
slavery. Not that it matters, because slavery is irrelevant.








And the reason for it is no longer valid, if it ever was.

Since we see perfectly well that it was not only voters that
got
influenced by foreign players.

What's this newest conspiracy theory? Just like Trump?


And meanwhile, here you are, always bitching about Trump, but you
claim to be a Republican. It's the Republicans, including you,
who continue to support him and enable him. If ten or twenty
percent of the GOP left the party in disgust, like I did, this
insanity would come to an end.


I said nothing about the US being founded on slavery, you stupid,
illiterate fucktard!

You just dragged slavery into the electoral college. That sounds very
much what the lib loons are doing, trying to drag slavery into the
founding of America, claiming that America was founded on slavery.


It wasn't founded on slavery so much as that slavery at the time was
simply a fact of life.

I agree. But some of the screwy libs are claiming that the US was
founded on slavery. And many of them and more want reparations, as if
paying someone today for something from 150 years ago makes any sense.



The good news is that I'm not required to agree with every other liberal
in America on every topic. Some of 'em I don't even like that much. Oh well.

A main issue some of the black people I know have at this point in
history is not about any reparations for distant history it's about when
police shoot and kill an unarmed person (often a black person, but it
happens to other types of people too), or otherwise cause someone in
their custody to die, that is at the very least manslaughter and should
always be treated at such from a legal perspective. it's not "oops we
made a logistical error."

The vast majority of those are not manslaughter. In fact the one that
started the Black Lies Matter movement, the Michael Brown shooting,
was based on lies. The BLM folks portrayed it just like you did above,
an innocent black guy was walking home and an evil white cop shot and
killed him. It was fully investigated by both the state and FBI/DOJ.
Both came to the same conclusions. Brown had just robbed a grocery
store, taking items and assaulting the clerk who tried to stop him.
The cop encountered Brown near the store and called him over to his
car. With the cop still inside the car, Brown assaulted him and tried
to get the cops gun. In the struggle, the gun went off, injuring
Brown. All that is fully supported by forensics. Brown then started
moving away from the car, the cop got out and ordered him to stop.
Instead he turned around and came charging back at the cop, at which
point the cop fired and killed him. Both investigations found the
shooting justified, as it should have been. But that didn't register
with the BLM crowd, the cop is always wrong.

Then there are others where bad things happened, perhaps mistakes were
made, but the person who got shot created the toxic, volatile situation.
Instead of complying, they run away, it's night, the cops can't see
too well, they pursue them, the perp turns around, the cop says he
saw them reaching in their pants or believed he saw a gun,
the cop fired. The mistake there is not
the cop's, it's the dope running, creating the toxic situation.

And finally, yes there are some where the cop clearly screwed up and
fired when they had no reason to do so. An example of that was in SC
I think, where the cop pulled over a black guy for a traffic stop,
the guy ran and the cop pursued him in daylight. There was video
that showed him shooting the guy when the guy was headed away from
him and was no apparent threat. He was tried and I think convicted.

The fact that the BLM crowd refuses to acknowledge the differences
in the above is why they have no credibility. to them, Michael Brown
was still just an unarmed black guy gunned down by a cop.

Suspect fleeing. No gun or weapon anyone ever saw any evidence of:

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/24/shooting-an-unarmed-teen-back-head-was-justified-police-said-then-video-emerged/>

"Mistakes were made" or an on-the-spot execution by agents of a
tyrannical government. Maybe they'll only ever go after the "bad guys."
One can hope that I guess. Just have faith...

 

[bitrex]

On 10/24/19 4:39 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 10/24/19 1:58 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 12:05:39 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/24/19 9:27 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups.com:

The founders understood
what they were doing.  It's worked perfectly fine here and will
continue to do so,

     You are such a fucking retard.   You have no clue what their
     reasons
were.  Many still had hooks in slavery.

I see.  He who claims to be a Republican is now advancing the
party line of the nuttiest of the libs, that the US was founded on
slavery. Not that it matters, because slavery is irrelevant.








     And the reason for it is no longer valid, if it ever was.

     Since we see perfectly well that it was not only voters that
     got
influenced by foreign players.

What's this newest conspiracy theory?  Just like Trump?


And meanwhile, here you are, always bitching about Trump, but you
claim to be a Republican.  It's the Republicans, including you,
who continue to support him and enable him.  If ten or twenty
percent of the GOP left the party in disgust, like I did, this
insanity would come to an end.


     I said nothing about the US being founded on slavery, you
stupid,
illiterate fucktard!

You just dragged slavery into the electoral college.  That sounds
very
much what the lib loons are doing, trying to drag slavery into the
founding of America, claiming that America was founded on slavery.


It wasn't founded on slavery so much as that slavery at the time was
simply a fact of life.

I agree.  But some of the screwy libs are claiming that the US was
founded on slavery.  And many of them and more want reparations, as if
paying someone today for something from 150 years ago makes any sense.



The good news is that I'm not required to agree with every other liberal
in America on every topic. Some of 'em I don't even like that much.
Oh well.

A main issue some of the black people I know have at this point in
history is not about any reparations for distant history it's about when
police shoot and kill an unarmed person (often a black person, but it
happens to other types of people too), or otherwise cause someone in
their custody to die, that is at the very least manslaughter and should
always be treated at such from a legal perspective. it's not "oops we
made a logistical error."

The vast majority of those are not manslaughter.  In fact the one that
started the Black Lies Matter movement, the Michael Brown shooting,
was based on lies.  The BLM folks portrayed it just like you did above,
an innocent black guy was walking home and an evil white cop shot and
killed him.  It was fully investigated by both the state and FBI/DOJ.
Both came to the same conclusions.  Brown had just robbed a grocery
store, taking items and assaulting the clerk who tried to stop him.
The cop encountered Brown near the store and called him over to his
car.  With the cop still inside the car, Brown assaulted him and tried
to get the cops gun.  In the struggle, the gun went off, injuring
Brown.  All that is fully supported by forensics.  Brown then started
moving away from the car, the cop got out and ordered him to stop.
Instead he turned around and came charging back at the cop, at which
point the cop fired and killed him.  Both investigations found the
shooting justified, as it should have been.  But that didn't register
with the BLM crowd, the cop is always wrong.

Then there are others where bad things happened, perhaps mistakes were
made, but the person who got shot created the toxic, volatile situation.
Instead of complying, they run away, it's night, the cops can't see
too well, they pursue them, the perp turns around, the cop says he
saw them reaching in their pants or believed he saw a gun,
the cop fired.  The mistake there is not
the cop's, it's the dope running, creating the toxic situation.

And finally, yes there are some where the cop clearly screwed up and
fired when they had no reason to do so.  An example of that was in SC
I think, where the cop pulled over a black guy for a traffic stop,
the guy ran and the cop pursued him in daylight.  There was video
that showed him shooting the guy when the guy was headed away from
him and was no apparent threat.  He was tried and I think convicted.

The fact that the BLM crowd refuses to acknowledge the differences
in the above is why they have no credibility.  to them, Michael Brown
was still just an unarmed black guy gunned down by a cop.



Suspect fleeing. No gun or weapon anyone ever saw any evidence of:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/24/shooting-an-unarmed-teen-back-head-was-justified-police-said-then-video-emerged/


"Mistakes were made" or an on-the-spot execution by agents of a
tyrannical government. Maybe they'll only ever go after the "bad guys."
One can hope that I guess. Just have faith...

The shooter is too lazy/out of shape/cowardly to even heft himself over
that 6' high fence to assist his partner with a kid now with a bullet in
his head and just struts around afterwards letting other guy handle it
and looking stupid. I'm 40 and could easily jump that fence. What a
disgrace.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 1:52:15 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 11:34:38 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jurb6006@gmail.com wrote in
news:096cf7e8-135c-4a7e-8ac5-a4475d1d9133@googlegroups.com:

I do not apologize. I like what he is doing.

Good for you, you ALSO TOTALLY RETARDED DUMBFUCK.

You got three choices.

You're a goddamned idiot. I have plenty of choices, none of which
are defined by an abject idiot like you.

1. Shut the fuck up.

Eat Shit And Die, child.

2. Accept your loss.

What loss?

The loss is the damage that your 24/7 rage does to your life, rage
about some imagined wrong that you could do nothing about.

Trump's wrongs aren't in the least imaginary, and campaigning to prevent him being re-elected in 2020 is the duty of every US citizen who has enough sense to recognise that Trump is disasterously incompetent.

With any luck the crook will be impeached for his crimes and won't even get to stand, but that would require the Republican Party to recognise that their president is an electoral liability. If they'd had that much sense they wouldn't have nominated him in the first place, or allowed the Tea Party fraction to put up such dismal alternatives.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

John Larkin doesn't have that much sense.

 

[gray_wolf]

On 10/24/2019 9:52 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 11:34:38 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jurb6006@gmail.com wrote in
news:096cf7e8-135c-4a7e-8ac5-a4475d1d9133@googlegroups.com:

I do not apologize. I like what he is doing.

Good for you, you ALSO TOTALLY RETARDED DUMBFUCK.

You got three choices.

You're a goddamned idiot. I have plenty of choices, none of which
are defined by an abject idiot like you.

1. Shut the fuck up.

Eat Shit And Die, child.

2. Accept your loss.

What loss?

The loss is the damage that your 24/7 rage does to your life, rage
about some imagined wrong that you could do nothing about.

There are people I've known 20 years of more that I thought had good sense.
Some were professional people like lawyers, judges, business types and such.
They piss and moan about trump while believing that obama and hillary were
saints. I seriously wonder if they are terminally stupid or hard core communists.
I know a couple of flat earthers one's a school teacher. But the seem to have a
moral sense of right and wrong.

Some are so rabid I won't associate with them.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 5:07:30 AM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 12:27:37 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:343fd442-7654-4d7e-98aa-6493bb420ef5@googlegroups.com:

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups.com:

The founders understood
what they were doing. It's worked perfectly fine here and
will continue to do so,

You are such a fucking retard. You have no clue what
their reasons were. Many still had hooks in slavery.

I see. He who claims to be a Republican is now advancing the
party line of the nuttiest of the libs, that the US was
founded on slavery. Not that it matters, because slavery is
irrelevant.

The US tolerated slavery when it was originally set up, and rejected universal suffrage. The first country to embrace universal suffrage was France in 1793, so the founding tax evaders weren't being particularly backward or conservative, even if they weren't all that radical either.

And the reason for it is no longer valid, if it ever was.

Since we see perfectly well that it was not only voters
that got
influenced by foreign players.

What's this newest conspiracy theory? Just like Trump?


And meanwhile, here you are, always bitching about Trump, but
you claim to be a Republican. It's the Republicans,
including you, who continue to support him and enable him.
If ten or twenty percent of the GOP left the party in
disgust, like I did, this insanity would come to an end.


I said nothing about the US being founded on slavery, you
stupid,
illiterate fucktard!

You just dragged slavery into the electoral college. That
sounds very much what the lib loons are doing, trying to drag
slavery into the founding of America, claiming that America was
founded on slavery.

It wasn't founded on slavery so much as that slavery at the time
was simply a fact of life.

I agree. But some of the screwy libs are claiming that the US was
founded on slavery. And many of them and more want reparations,
as if paying someone today for something from 150 years ago makes
any sense.

Leave stupid shit out of the discussion. Nobody said any such
thing here. And any screwy libs have yet to chime in, so shutup,
stupid fuck.

YOU brought slavery into the discussion, you used that word here for
the first time. Like Forest Gump said, stupid is as stupid does.

And Trader4 is remarkably stupid.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 5:04:51 AM UTC+11, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 12:16:37 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/24/19 9:27 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups.com:

<snipped Trader4 characterising perfectly practical left wing ideas - most of which are already working in other countries - as dangerously radical >

You don't have to be an outright commie to wreck it all. Bernie is
certainly close enough and he knows plenty of commies.

Bernie Sanders believes in democratic socialism which works fine in northern Europe - rather better than the right-wing lunacies which are now progressively (if slowly) wrecking the US.

Communists believe in the leading role of the party, which is undemocratic.

It got Karl Marx and the proto-communists thrown out of the international socialist movement in 1871. At the time there were prophetic remarks about the risk of tyranny inherent in the approach.

If there are any communists left in the US today, they'd have to be adherents of the Chinese Communist Party.

Trader4 might like to name one of the "communists" that he thinks Bernie Sanders knows - he won't because Trader4 finds the process of marshalling evidence quite beyond him, as is the process of understanding the evidence thinks he has got.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

gray_wolf <g_wolf@howling_mad.com> wrote in
news:Q%tsF.27815$kV2.4914@fx22.iad:

They piss and moan about trump while believing that obama and
hillary were saints.

I state things about Trump which are true. It is not pissing and
moaning, you retarded piece of shit. It is mere valid observation.

Oh and no one said a goddamned thing about ANY previous
administration, dipshit.

This ain't about them, this is about TRUMP, and only Trump you STUPID
FUCK!

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:kpmsF.312366$LC2.89345@fx45.iad:

On 10/24/19 2:04 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:

That sure doesn't seem to be the case when you have twenty
something democrat lefties all running for president and only one
more left-center guy, Biden.

Nobody under 40 likes Biden.

You have no clue how any demographic feels.

The guy is losing it already nearly
as bad as Trump is.

Nice try. The guy has held the office of the vice president
before, and he was never a criminal level NYC landlord... ever.
He knows more about PROPER administration than Trump ever has or ever
will.

You're an idiot.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 2:31:02 PM UTC+11, gray_wolf wrote:

On 10/24/2019 9:52 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 11:34:38 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jurb6006@gmail.com wrote in
news:096cf7e8-135c-4a7e-8ac5-a4475d1d9133@googlegroups.com:

I do not apologize. I like what he is doing.

Good for you, you ALSO TOTALLY RETARDED DUMBFUCK.

You got three choices.

You're a goddamned idiot. I have plenty of choices, none of which
are defined by an abject idiot like you.

1. Shut the fuck up.

Eat Shit And Die, child.

2. Accept your loss.

What loss?

The loss is the damage that your 24/7 rage does to your life, rage
about some imagined wrong that you could do nothing about.


There are people I've known 20 years of more that I thought had good sense.
Some were professional people like lawyers, judges, business types and such.
They piss and moan about trump while believing that Obama and Hillary were
saints.

Only in comparison with Trump.

> I seriously wonder if they are terminally stupid or hard core communists.

Only the terminally stupid still believe in hard core communists.

> I know a couple of flat earthers - one's a school teacher. But they seem to have a moral sense of right and wrong.

You don't need much of a moral sense to realise that Trump doesn't have one.

It wouldn't matter as much if he had any other kind of sense - beyond knowing what he can get away with selling to the terminally gullible.

> Some are so rabid I won't associate with them.

Which may save you from the knowledge that they aren't impressed by your judgement either.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:51:59 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 10/24/19 2:04 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 12:16:37 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/24/19 9:27 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups.com:

The founders understood
what they were doing. It's worked perfectly fine here and will
continue to do so,

You are such a fucking retard. You have no clue what their
reasons
were. Many still had hooks in slavery.

I see. He who claims to be a Republican is now advancing the
party line of the nuttiest of the libs, that the US was founded on
slavery. Not that it matters, because slavery is irrelevant.








And the reason for it is no longer valid, if it ever was.

Since we see perfectly well that it was not only voters that
got
influenced by foreign players.

What's this newest conspiracy theory? Just like Trump?


And meanwhile, here you are, always bitching about Trump, but you
claim to be a Republican. It's the Republicans, including you,
who continue to support him and enable him. If ten or twenty
percent of the GOP left the party in disgust, like I did, this
insanity would come to an end.


I said nothing about the US being founded on slavery, you stupid,
illiterate fucktard!

You just dragged slavery into the electoral college. That sounds very
much what the lib loons are doing, trying to drag slavery into the
founding of America, claiming that America was founded on slavery.


It wasn't founded on slavery so much as that slavery at the time was
simply a fact of life.

I agree. But some of the screwy libs are claiming that the US was
founded on slavery. And many of them and more want reparations, as if
paying someone today for something from 150 years ago makes any sense.



The far left "movement" in America, such as it is, is pretty small
compared to some other places in the world.

That sure doesn't seem to be the case when you have twenty something
democrat lefties all running for president and only one more left-center guy,
Biden.

Nobody under 40 likes Biden. The guy is losing it already nearly as bad
as Trump is.


It has a loud voice and says
a lot of provocative things. That's fine with me that's part of the
concept of "freedom" and watching MAGA-types recoil in horror at
statements like "Hey, why don't we just buy all the homeless someplace
to live with taxpayer money?" can be amusing I'll admit. It probably
wouldn't cause the world to end. ohmahgawd they could all live somewhere!!!

Most of what passes for "leftism" here is just milquetoast centrism by
world standards asking stuff like "Hey wouldn't it be a great idea if
everyone had access to good-quality health care at low or no cost."

It's a lot more than that. Andy YinYang wants to give everyone of
legal age $1000 a month. All of the Democrats running favor free
healthcare for illegal aliens. All are in favor of sanctuary cities
and states and an open southern border. There are proposals for
free college education, canceling existing student debt, huge govt
spending with new programs, no plans for how to pay for it. It's
lib loony tunes time here. So loony, they may very well get Trump
re-elected.

Oh well we both think Yang is a loser candidate but for different
reasons, his $1000 UBI program is garbage not because UBI is IMO an
intrinsically bad idea necessarily, but because it comes along with a
10% VAT on all goods and services and at the expense of pretty much
every other government safety-net service for the poor.

$1000/month plus a 10% VAT on _all_ goods and services is a hand-out and
a gut punch simultaneously, to everyone but primarily again, the poor.
They definitely don't need a gut punch to go along with some new
program. $1000/month? Won't even cover housing and utility expenses in
many areas of the country. And as I understand it it's at the expense of
_all_ other social service programs like food stamps. what are they
going to eat, their utility bills?

And I'm perfectly ok with the cash not going to everyone. I don't need
an extra 1k a month give it to someone who does it would be a waste of
my time to even deal with the paperwork.

Having secure housing is a good idea, it's pretty hard to get a job and
work effectively when you're in a constant state of anxiety of whether
you're going to have anywhere to live next month. but Yang's ideas were
dreamed up in a corporate boardroom somewhere he seems to have no on the
ground experience with the destitute.

He's been super-wealthy so long he probably doesn't even know what
things cost anymore. Anyone candidate proposing new social programs of
any type aimed at the poor should at least be able to answer basic
questions about everyday life as a low-income person. What do things
cost. What kind of expenses do those people have. What does say a new
tire cost to replace when one gets a flat, so one can get to work and
not get fired. I doubt he'd be able to answer many of these simple
questions. His ideas are tits on a bull.

Guaranteed minimum income, guaranteed housing, universal medicaire,
and open borders is an interesting combination.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:51:18 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:uge3relh4farnddfudu2n521gt5p1qe6o8@4ax.com:

the damage that your 24/7 rage does to your life

I am in no rage, dipshit.

I'd love to rage on your face with a blackjack though.

Remember those?

That's exactly the point. You are so angry, over stuff that you can
easily ignore, that you want to kill people.

You can do useful, interesting, fun stuff, or you can be angry and
frustrated for the rest of your short life on earth.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 08:57:55 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 7:52:15 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 11:34:38 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

2. Accept your loss.

What loss?

The loss is the damage that your 24/7 rage does to your life...

There's a clear class distinction present here: the lower class thinks of
the future as a month; the middle class thinks of the future as a few years.
An upper class considers generations.

That doesn't explain the many rich people who are alcoholics and
druggies, and who squander the family fortunes.

People of all "classes" have about the same passions.

Righteous anger can fuel an upper-class plan that lasts into the century,
or a middle-class plan that prepares for the next election. Only the
lower-class thinking makes an electoral defeat into cause for acceptance.

"Upper class" people don't have a monopoly on common sense.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics