Apology on behalf of the United States of America

[Whoey Louie]

On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 8:05:31 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote in news:qp1cgv$6jf$1@dont-
email.me:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 16:20:18 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Pence can pardon him. It has been done, you know.

Tricky Dickie '74?




Pence could end up under indictment in this case as well.
Before he gets a chance to do any such thing.

This from the guy who claims to be a Republican. Either you're lying
or if true, then you're clearly part of the party that is enabling
Trump and Pence and in the process of running them for re-election.
Yet here you are bitching. Go figure.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:df42b587-ba56-41c9-a402-edcb9493210e@googlegroups.com:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 7:16:32 PM UTC-4, John Larkin
wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:39:30 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:sf56re5gmr1ldd75qsuotiqnvcr5km747v@4ax.com:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:51:18 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:uge3relh4farnddfudu2n521gt5p1qe6o8@4ax.com:

the damage that your 24/7 rage does to your life

I am in no rage, dipshit.

I'd love to rage on your face with a blackjack though.

Remember those?

That's exactly the point.

You made no point, dipshit. Yet another reason folks dislike
you.
You tout total bullshit as fact.

You are so angry,

Invalid, incorrect observation. WAKE UP!


over stuff that you can
easily ignore, that you want to kill people.

Never ever said a damned thing about killing anyone.

"rage on your face with a blackjack" sounds dangerous to me.

Or did you mean to just shake it at me from a safe distance?



He does that regularly. If one day he runs amok and is the next
spree shooter, people will be saying there were obvious, abundant
warning signs, why didn't anyone do anything.

You are a goddamned idiot who's mother should have been erased from
the human gene pool before the severely ass fucked street slut ever
shat you.

Why didn't anyone do anything?

See how that works, you pathetic piece of shit?

 

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 08:56:23 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 15:42:07 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote in
news:1c58621d-ee8b-43ad-9566-b431d3770628@googlegroups.com:

You don't speak for the U.S.

I can and have offered an apology on behalf of the US. I can and
did do that, and a putz like you cannot stop me.

And Turkey is our strongest NATO ally
in the region,

No. Turkey WAS our strongest NATO ally. Pretty sure that title
took a hit this past week, but you'll need to take off the TrumpTard
Horse Blinders to see anything.

and has been like forever.

I know what NATO is, you stupid jackass.

U.S. even maintains a
nuclear arsenal and strike force there,

No shit. That is why them buying RUSSIAN defense systems was a
FAIL from an allied perspective. Wake the fuck up.

in addition to a sizable
naval presence.

I know what is in the region, dipshit. I ALSO know what regions
were recently abandoned.

The Kurds are terrorist tools of the U.S. and
Israel, they have no loyalty to anybody.

You ain't real bright, boy. And the SecDef is simply TRUMPetting
the Trump line.

We abandoned allies. Period. You are stupid. We have allowed the
wrong force to take the region. Wake the fuck up.

Wow, if you actually have a job, you must be the nastiest-co-worker in
the place.

And always wrong, too.

Do you curse and shriek and snarl all day?

Must be a profitable place.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:fc02ab68-aad6-4967-a3ee-27330eaab2a5@googlegroups.com:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 7:41:15 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman
wrote:
On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 1:32:00 AM UTC+11,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:51:59 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:

On 10/24/19 2:04 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 12:16:37 PM UTC-4, bitrex
wrote:
On 10/24/19 9:27 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex
wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.c
om:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups
.com:

snip

Guaranteed minimum income, guaranteed housing, universal
medicaire, and open borders is an interesting combination.

It would be, if anybody were silly enough to propose it.

The stupid lib Democrats running for president have proposed all
of it, in varying combinations. But then how would you know?
Isn't it time to feed the kangaroos?

You must have ignored his previous response. Par for the course
for an uncivil utter retard like you. The kangaroos feed themselves
and there are very few proximal to human domains.

Grow the fuck up.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 7:41:15 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 1:32:00 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 14:51:59 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 10/24/19 2:04 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 12:16:37 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/24/19 9:27 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups.com:

snip

Guaranteed minimum income, guaranteed housing, universal medicaire,
and open borders is an interesting combination.

It would be, if anybody were silly enough to propose it.

The stupid lib Democrats running for president have proposed all of it,
in varying combinations. But then how would you know? Isn't it time to
feed the kangaroos?

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 3:13:15 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 10:53:30 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 10:31:45 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 1:52:15 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 11:34:38 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jurb6006@gmail.com wrote in
news:096cf7e8-135c-4a7e-8ac5-a4475d1d9133@googlegroups.com:

I do not apologize. I like what he is doing.

Good for you, you ALSO TOTALLY RETARDED DUMBFUCK.

You got three choices.

You're a goddamned idiot. I have plenty of choices, none of which
are defined by an abject idiot like you.

1. Shut the fuck up.

Eat Shit And Die, child.

2. Accept your loss.

What loss?

The loss is the damage that your 24/7 rage does to your life, rage
about some imagined wrong that you could do nothing about.

Trump's wrongs aren't in the least imaginary, and campaigning to prevent him being re-elected in 2020 is the duty of every US citizen who has enough sense to recognise that Trump is disasterously incompetent.

With any luck the crook will be impeached for his crimes and won't even get to stand, but that would require the Republican Party to recognise that their president is an electoral liability. If they'd had that much sense they wouldn't have nominated him in the first place, or allowed the Tea Party fraction to put up such dismal alternatives.

Trump has record high approval ratings from his supporters, and he will be reelected in 2020. The Dems with their pathetically weak line-up of freaks for candidates know this, and that's why they're going the impeachment route. They have nothing and will get nowhere.


Yes, the Dems think and say that unless they impeach him (but not
convict him), they will lose the next election to him.

Trump makes mostly sensible decisions, but he is often a public
embarrassment... which is not a crime.

Even if true, mostly isn't an excuse. It only takes one bad one,
ask Nizon. And Trump has done that now, he's so incredibly stupid and
arrogant that having survived being accused of colluding with the
Russians, he's just withheld military aid to Ukraine while demanding
"investigations" and only investigations that would benefit him
personally. Not one word about any concern about corruption involving
the withheld $400 mil in aid or any other corruption. And I suppose
the idea of a Ukraine investigation to find the DNC server in Ukraine, to
investigate Crowdstrike, a US company, those strike you as sensible?
He should be removed by the 25th just for believing that, it's NUTS.

What's shocking is the crowd of ancient criminals and lunatics that
the Dems have available to run against him. Tulsi Gabbard is at least
sane, but is, by good authority, a Russian asset. And not crazy enough
to get the nomination anyhow.

Tribalism is sure a mess.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

What good authority is there that Gabbard is a Russian asset?
So far, all I;ve heard is silly Hillary assert it. I haven't seen her
side with Putin over the US intel agencies, deny that Russia meddled
in the election, undermine NATO, say she would recognize Russia's seizure
of Crimea, call the EU our enemy, withhold US aid from Ukraine. Let's see,
who actually did all that?

 

On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 10:57:19 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 16:16:24 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Jesus would be proud of you.

You do seem to attract all the nut-cases, John! :-D

This is just a newsgroup. It has its own dynamics and it isn't real
life.

AW is probably a polite sweetie in real life.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 7:16:32 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:39:30 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:sf56re5gmr1ldd75qsuotiqnvcr5km747v@4ax.com:

On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 17:51:18 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:uge3relh4farnddfudu2n521gt5p1qe6o8@4ax.com:

the damage that your 24/7 rage does to your life

I am in no rage, dipshit.

I'd love to rage on your face with a blackjack though.

Remember those?

That's exactly the point.

You made no point, dipshit. Yet another reason folks dislike you.
You tout total bullshit as fact.

You are so angry,

Invalid, incorrect observation. WAKE UP!


over stuff that you can
easily ignore, that you want to kill people.

Never ever said a damned thing about killing anyone.

"rage on your face with a blackjack" sounds dangerous to me.

Or did you mean to just shake it at me from a safe distance?

He does that regularly. If one day he runs amok and is the next spree
shooter, people will be saying there were obvious, abundant warning signs,
why didn't anyone do anything.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:b6155e6f-e328-4814-
9a24-19016030d4b6@googlegroups.com:

And that is exactly what happens in 90%+ of the police shootings.
The cops only fire because they reasonably believed their lives are
in danger.

Hahaha...

I know of at least three cases where they lined up weapons drawn
and then emptied their clips in the 'suspected perp'.

"I was afeared for my life..."

Yeah... trained regularly, cops are the most able to disarm
someone as well as notice when they are carrying, yet they are the
first to claim fear.

See if you remember these...

"Tank boy"

Should be in jail (out by now), not dead.

Then...

There was one in Ohio in the last decade where some 8 cops lined up
in front of the guy sitting on a hillside, and they fired 72 rounds
at him and he was only hit by 11 rounds.

I want to know where the other 61 rounds went!

Incompetent twerps, most of them. Pussies, even, without their
sidearm.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 1:37:03 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 10/25/19 11:57 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 4:39:33 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/24/19 1:58 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 12:05:39 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/24/19 9:27 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 1:35:11 AM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 10/23/19 6:00 PM, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2019 at 11:44:45 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:6c35fa8c-d27c-44c1-825a-9a5c38bbafc6@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019 at 10:49:34 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:c87009b3-25e9-4ec7-a3e3-4b866ab1e8ff@googlegroups.com:

The founders understood
what they were doing. It's worked perfectly fine here and will
continue to do so,

You are such a fucking retard. You have no clue what their
reasons
were. Many still had hooks in slavery.

I see. He who claims to be a Republican is now advancing the
party line of the nuttiest of the libs, that the US was founded on
slavery. Not that it matters, because slavery is irrelevant.








And the reason for it is no longer valid, if it ever was.

Since we see perfectly well that it was not only voters that
got
influenced by foreign players.

What's this newest conspiracy theory? Just like Trump?


And meanwhile, here you are, always bitching about Trump, but you
claim to be a Republican. It's the Republicans, including you,
who continue to support him and enable him. If ten or twenty
percent of the GOP left the party in disgust, like I did, this
insanity would come to an end.


I said nothing about the US being founded on slavery, you stupid,
illiterate fucktard!

You just dragged slavery into the electoral college. That sounds very
much what the lib loons are doing, trying to drag slavery into the
founding of America, claiming that America was founded on slavery.


It wasn't founded on slavery so much as that slavery at the time was
simply a fact of life.

I agree. But some of the screwy libs are claiming that the US was
founded on slavery. And many of them and more want reparations, as if
paying someone today for something from 150 years ago makes any sense.



The good news is that I'm not required to agree with every other liberal
in America on every topic. Some of 'em I don't even like that much. Oh well.

A main issue some of the black people I know have at this point in
history is not about any reparations for distant history it's about when
police shoot and kill an unarmed person (often a black person, but it
happens to other types of people too), or otherwise cause someone in
their custody to die, that is at the very least manslaughter and should
always be treated at such from a legal perspective. it's not "oops we
made a logistical error."

The vast majority of those are not manslaughter. In fact the one that
started the Black Lies Matter movement, the Michael Brown shooting,
was based on lies. The BLM folks portrayed it just like you did above,
an innocent black guy was walking home and an evil white cop shot and
killed him. It was fully investigated by both the state and FBI/DOJ.
Both came to the same conclusions. Brown had just robbed a grocery
store, taking items and assaulting the clerk who tried to stop him.
The cop encountered Brown near the store and called him over to his
car. With the cop still inside the car, Brown assaulted him and tried
to get the cops gun. In the struggle, the gun went off, injuring
Brown. All that is fully supported by forensics. Brown then started
moving away from the car, the cop got out and ordered him to stop.
Instead he turned around and came charging back at the cop, at which
point the cop fired and killed him. Both investigations found the
shooting justified, as it should have been. But that didn't register
with the BLM crowd, the cop is always wrong.

Then there are others where bad things happened, perhaps mistakes were
made, but the person who got shot created the toxic, volatile situation.
Instead of complying, they run away, it's night, the cops can't see
too well, they pursue them, the perp turns around, the cop says he
saw them reaching in their pants or believed he saw a gun,
the cop fired. The mistake there is not
the cop's, it's the dope running, creating the toxic situation.

And finally, yes there are some where the cop clearly screwed up and
fired when they had no reason to do so. An example of that was in SC
I think, where the cop pulled over a black guy for a traffic stop,
the guy ran and the cop pursued him in daylight. There was video
that showed him shooting the guy when the guy was headed away from
him and was no apparent threat. He was tried and I think convicted.

The fact that the BLM crowd refuses to acknowledge the differences
in the above is why they have no credibility. to them, Michael Brown
was still just an unarmed black guy gunned down by a cop.



Suspect fleeing. No gun or weapon anyone ever saw any evidence of:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/10/24/shooting-an-unarmed-teen-back-head-was-justified-police-said-then-video-emerged/

"Mistakes were made" or an on-the-spot execution by agents of a
tyrannical government. Maybe they'll only ever go after the "bad guys."
One can hope that I guess. Just have faith...

This is the second type of incident I described, where the perp creates
the toxic, volatile, high risk, potentially deadly environment. And
then bad things happen and they wind up dead. A cop sees him reaching
for his pants, thinks he's going for a gun, shoots him. It turns
out he didn't have a gun. Well, who's fault is all that? The perp,
who instead of complying with police, chose to run. And it's stated
that he was stopped pursuant to a surveillance and was known to
carry weapons. He died from his own actions. And when some jerk
flees like that, they aren't just putting their own lives in jeopardy,
they are putting the lives of cops and civilians in jeopardy.
Suppose they flee across a street, a car swerves and a child dies?
No sympathies here for the dead dope.


Running from the police isn't intrinsically a capital crime, not in the
much-vaunted Western civilization it isn't.

I never said it was. What I said was that running from the police like
that creates a volatile, toxic situation. And when things end badly due
to a mistake, the real mistake, the one that set the whole thing in motion
is the dope running, resisting arrest. They started the toxic train of
events, not the cops. A cop winds up chasing a perp like that, it's dark,
things are moving fast, he sees or thinks he sees them reaching into their
pocket..... Most times it's not the cops fault, they don't get charged and
even if they did, juries won't convict because they understand all of the above.





They died from being shot

without due process. All the suppose-they do this or that are just
suppositions the Common Law-derived system,

I never said suppose anything. I gave you a specific example of Black
Lies Matter BS, the Michael Brown case, where the shooting was fully
justified. And I said that in most other cases, the perp has created
a toxic, volatile situation, one where the cop could reasonably believe
his life was in danger, so they fire.




that traces its origin back

to the Magna Carta, has no provision for actions which _may_ occur based
on clairvoyant opinion.

You can have things some other way but then you don't really have
Western civilization anymore you have something more like Sharia law.
They probably shoot people on supposition.

Representative government and the common law system are the crown jewels
of Western civilization's contributions to the world, far more than the
airplane or the electric light bulb so I find it odd sometimes that
people who otherwise seem to be proponents of it often also sometimes
seem ambivalent to religious adherence to its strictures.

That is to say avoiding shooting fleeing or dangerous perps by all
possible means in preference to delivering them alive to a court of law

And that is exactly what happens in 90%+ of the police shootings.
The cops only fire because they reasonably believed their lives are
in danger. It's illegal for a cop to just fire at a fleeing suspect,
unless there are extreme, extenuating circumstances, eg they are a
murderer and present an extreme risk to the public. We should put
you in a dark alley, chasing a fleeing perp from a drug bust, have them
turn around and reach in their pants and see what you do.

 

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:b1n8rephk8k0tpk17sf458brcqq6mq719e@4ax.com:

On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 10:57:19 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 16:16:24 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Jesus would be proud of you.

You do seem to attract all the nut-cases, John! :-D

This is just a newsgroup. It has its own dynamics and it isn't real
life.

AW is probably a polite sweetie in real life.

Use odds & stats.

Here's one. JL makes a valid post, like this one, once in every
ten thousand posts he makes here.

 

[whit3rd]

On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 8:21:25 AM UTC-7, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 1:37:03 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

Running from the police isn't intrinsically a capital crime, not in the
much-vaunted Western civilization it isn't.

... the real mistake, the one that set the whole thing in motion
is the dope running, resisting arrest. They started the toxic train of
events, not the cops.

'started'? What does that have to do with responsible use of lethal
force by a police officer? Running might be simple panic, and in
the absence of a crime, a firearm needn't ever leave a holster.
There's no significance to finding a 'starting' point in this situation.

The incident was a case of panic by the victim, and instinctive
hunter/prey agression on the part of the policeman.

 

On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 08:31:00 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
<trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 3:13:15 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 10:53:30 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 10:31:45 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 1:52:15 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 11:34:38 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jurb6006@gmail.com wrote in
news:096cf7e8-135c-4a7e-8ac5-a4475d1d9133@googlegroups.com:

I do not apologize. I like what he is doing.

Good for you, you ALSO TOTALLY RETARDED DUMBFUCK.

You got three choices.

You're a goddamned idiot. I have plenty of choices, none of which
are defined by an abject idiot like you.

1. Shut the fuck up.

Eat Shit And Die, child.

2. Accept your loss.

What loss?

The loss is the damage that your 24/7 rage does to your life, rage
about some imagined wrong that you could do nothing about.

Trump's wrongs aren't in the least imaginary, and campaigning to prevent him being re-elected in 2020 is the duty of every US citizen who has enough sense to recognise that Trump is disasterously incompetent.

With any luck the crook will be impeached for his crimes and won't even get to stand, but that would require the Republican Party to recognise that their president is an electoral liability. If they'd had that much sense they wouldn't have nominated him in the first place, or allowed the Tea Party fraction to put up such dismal alternatives.

Trump has record high approval ratings from his supporters, and he will be reelected in 2020. The Dems with their pathetically weak line-up of freaks for candidates know this, and that's why they're going the impeachment route. They have nothing and will get nowhere.


Yes, the Dems think and say that unless they impeach him (but not
convict him), they will lose the next election to him.

Trump makes mostly sensible decisions, but he is often a public
embarrassment... which is not a crime.

Even if true, mostly isn't an excuse. It only takes one bad one,
ask Nizon. And Trump has done that now, he's so incredibly stupid and
arrogant that having survived being accused of colluding with the
Russians, he's just withheld military aid to Ukraine while demanding
"investigations" and only investigations that would benefit him
personally. Not one word about any concern about corruption involving
the withheld $400 mil in aid or any other corruption. And I suppose
the idea of a Ukraine investigation to find the DNC server in Ukraine, to
investigate Crowdstrike, a US company, those strike you as sensible?
He should be removed by the 25th just for believing that, it's NUTS.

Do you insist that a President always be 100% right? Heve you seen the
Biden billion-dollar Ukraine threat video? Does that outrage you as
much as Trump asking "a favor" to look into corruption?

One of the (few) advantages of a 2-party political system is that they
scrutinize one another for corruption.

It is unfortunate that fat cats are rarely prosecuted for criminal
acts.

What's shocking is the crowd of ancient criminals and lunatics that
the Dems have available to run against him. Tulsi Gabbard is at least
sane, but is, by good authority, a Russian asset. And not crazy enough
to get the nomination anyhow.

Tribalism is sure a mess.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

What good authority is there that Gabbard is a Russian asset?

Hillary said so.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[bitrex]

On 10/26/19 11:21 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:

You can have things some other way but then you don't really have
Western civilization anymore you have something more like Sharia law.
They probably shoot people on supposition.

Representative government and the common law system are the crown jewels
of Western civilization's contributions to the world, far more than the
airplane or the electric light bulb so I find it odd sometimes that
people who otherwise seem to be proponents of it often also sometimes
seem ambivalent to religious adherence to its strictures.

That is to say avoiding shooting fleeing or dangerous perps by all
possible means in preference to delivering them alive to a court of law

And that is exactly what happens in 90%+ of the police shootings.
The cops only fire because they reasonably believed their lives are
in danger. It's illegal for a cop to just fire at a fleeing suspect,
unless there are extreme, extenuating circumstances, eg they are a
murderer and present an extreme risk to the public. We should put
you in a dark alley, chasing a fleeing perp from a drug bust, have them
turn around and reach in their pants and see what you do.

Chasing a fleeing criminal who you don't know is armed or not, down a
dark alley, by yourself, is an objectively retarded thing to do. For anyone.

In honest self-defense classes for civilians at least, if a student
comes up with a hypothetical six-ninjas situation the only answer is to
not to put yourself in situations where you'll be jumped by six ninjas.
Otherwise the training has no easy answers for you.

Police are supposed to be smart. Not walk themselves into situations
where they're at an obvious disadvantage like the one you mentioned out
of ego, and then rely on faith that they can pull fast enough to save
themselves and that they're not making a mistake if the other party does
something in hindsight, pretty predictable like touching their pants.

 

[bitrex]

On 10/26/19 11:37 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in news:b6155e6f-e328-4814-
9a24-19016030d4b6@googlegroups.com:

And that is exactly what happens in 90%+ of the police shootings.
The cops only fire because they reasonably believed their lives are
in danger.

Hahaha...

I know of at least three cases where they lined up weapons drawn
and then emptied their clips in the 'suspected perp'.

"I was afeared for my life..."

Yeah... trained regularly, cops are the most able to disarm
someone as well as notice when they are carrying, yet they are the
first to claim fear.

See if you remember these...

"Tank boy"

Should be in jail (out by now), not dead.

Then...

There was one in Ohio in the last decade where some 8 cops lined up
in front of the guy sitting on a hillside, and they fired 72 rounds
at him and he was only hit by 11 rounds.

I want to know where the other 61 rounds went!

Incompetent twerps, most of them. Pussies, even, without their
sidearm.

In Vietnam probably half of them would have chased the lone VC they
spotted in the jungle out of the corner of their eye "hey you! Stop!!!"
with their buddies right behind, right into the booby trap/ambush that
was carefully prepared for them, like a bunch of very stable geniuses.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:47e404e7-1bd2-4c04-836e-25b3a5ebed04@googlegroups.com:

On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 8:05:31 AM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote in
news:qp1cgv$6jf$1@dont- email.me:

On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 16:20:18 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Pence can pardon him. It has been done, you know.

Tricky Dickie '74?




Pence could end up under indictment in this case as well.
Before he gets a chance to do any such thing.

This from the guy who claims to be a Republican.

You are a goddamned idiot. I already told you. I am against
Trump. That includes every thing and every one the retarded bastard
drags with him. That includes every thing the stupid buffoon has
ever said as well.

And that most certainly includes the retarded white sepremacist
Pence.

Either you're
lying or if true, then you're clearly part of the party that is
enabling Trump and Pence and in the process of running them for
re-election.

You're a goddamned idiot. You are more dishonorable than the
immature republican bastards that stormed a closed door meeting.
It is not me that does not know the premise of being a republican.
It is them.

> Yet here you are bitching.

"bitching"? You are as mature as a freshly laid turd, boy.
Go away, turd boy.


> Go figure.

Yes... Do that. Take forever. Stay the fuck away while you are
working on it.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 3:36:56 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 10/26/19 11:21 AM, Whoey Louie wrote:

You can have things some other way but then you don't really have
Western civilization anymore you have something more like Sharia law.
They probably shoot people on supposition.

Representative government and the common law system are the crown jewels
of Western civilization's contributions to the world, far more than the
airplane or the electric light bulb so I find it odd sometimes that
people who otherwise seem to be proponents of it often also sometimes
seem ambivalent to religious adherence to its strictures.

That is to say avoiding shooting fleeing or dangerous perps by all
possible means in preference to delivering them alive to a court of law

And that is exactly what happens in 90%+ of the police shootings.
The cops only fire because they reasonably believed their lives are
in danger. It's illegal for a cop to just fire at a fleeing suspect,
unless there are extreme, extenuating circumstances, eg they are a
murderer and present an extreme risk to the public. We should put
you in a dark alley, chasing a fleeing perp from a drug bust, have them
turn around and reach in their pants and see what you do.


Chasing a fleeing criminal who you don't know is armed or not, down a
dark alley, by yourself, is an objectively retarded thing to do.

Yet it's what cops frequently do to protect you. And many times it;s
not by themselves. When the stupid perp spins around, reaches in his
pants, is he any less dead if he's shot by two or three cops, than by one?
The vast majority of these police shootings, it's not black or white,
it's a perp fleeing, resisting arrest, doing something really, really
stupid, creating a toxic, volatile situation. And then the BLM folks
and libs always blame the cops.

A classic example of this BS, last week the NYC police responded to a
call with a naked black guy running amok. They showed up, he had a gun
he wound up shooting and hitting a NYC cop, but fortunately he had a
bullet proof vest on. The cops returned fire, killing him. Guess
what the mother is doing? Teaming up with the usual Black Lies Matter
race baiters and trying to blame the cops. Quite amazing.


For anyone.

In honest self-defense classes for civilians at least, if a student
comes up with a hypothetical six-ninjas situation the only answer is to
not to put yourself in situations where you'll be jumped by six ninjas.
Otherwise the training has no easy answers for you.

Police are supposed to be smart. Not walk themselves into situations
where they're at an obvious disadvantage like the one you mentioned out
of ego, and then rely on faith that they can pull fast enough to save
themselves and that they're not making a mistake if the other party does
something in hindsight, pretty predictable like touching their pants.

Sure, police could just stand there and let perps run away. Fortunately
this county isn't that stupid yet, but give the libs some more time.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 11:59:38 AM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:

On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 8:21:25 AM UTC-7, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 1:37:03 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

Running from the police isn't intrinsically a capital crime, not in the
much-vaunted Western civilization it isn't.

... the real mistake, the one that set the whole thing in motion
is the dope running, resisting arrest. They started the toxic train of
events, not the cops.

'started'? What does that have to do with responsible use of lethal
force by a police officer?

Everything. Without creating the toxic, volatile situation, the perp
would not have been shot. Capiche? They created the dangerous, life
threatening situation, then in the middle of a pursuit, in a dark alley
at night, the cop is supposed to know that the perp spinning around,
reaching into his pants, doesn't have a gun? They should be 99.99%
certain before firing and die if the asshole has a gun? Not in my
world or forunately in the real world where if some DA tries to prosecute
that for political purposes, juries almost always acquit.



Running might be simple panic,

Too bad, so sad. He also might be a criminal with a gun, and in a dark
alley, he's reaching in his pants or jacket. How lucky do you feel?
He fucked up, he's dead. You'd think the next one would learn, but
apparently not. You blame the Black Lies Matter folks for helping with
that. The message should be cooperate with the police, don't run, don't
do stupid things. Instead the message is keep doing it, complain about the
cops.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Saturday, October 26, 2019 at 12:51:39 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 08:31:00 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 3:13:15 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 10:53:30 -0700 (PDT),
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, October 24, 2019 at 10:31:45 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Friday, October 25, 2019 at 1:52:15 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 11:34:38 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jurb6006@gmail.com wrote in
news:096cf7e8-135c-4a7e-8ac5-a4475d1d9133@googlegroups.com:

I do not apologize. I like what he is doing.

Good for you, you ALSO TOTALLY RETARDED DUMBFUCK.

You got three choices.

You're a goddamned idiot. I have plenty of choices, none of which
are defined by an abject idiot like you.

1. Shut the fuck up.

Eat Shit And Die, child.

2. Accept your loss.

What loss?

The loss is the damage that your 24/7 rage does to your life, rage
about some imagined wrong that you could do nothing about.

Trump's wrongs aren't in the least imaginary, and campaigning to prevent him being re-elected in 2020 is the duty of every US citizen who has enough sense to recognise that Trump is disasterously incompetent.

With any luck the crook will be impeached for his crimes and won't even get to stand, but that would require the Republican Party to recognise that their president is an electoral liability. If they'd had that much sense they wouldn't have nominated him in the first place, or allowed the Tea Party fraction to put up such dismal alternatives.

Trump has record high approval ratings from his supporters, and he will be reelected in 2020. The Dems with their pathetically weak line-up of freaks for candidates know this, and that's why they're going the impeachment route. They have nothing and will get nowhere.


Yes, the Dems think and say that unless they impeach him (but not
convict him), they will lose the next election to him.

Trump makes mostly sensible decisions, but he is often a public
embarrassment... which is not a crime.

Even if true, mostly isn't an excuse. It only takes one bad one,
ask Nizon. And Trump has done that now, he's so incredibly stupid and
arrogant that having survived being accused of colluding with the
Russians, he's just withheld military aid to Ukraine while demanding
"investigations" and only investigations that would benefit him
personally. Not one word about any concern about corruption involving
the withheld $400 mil in aid or any other corruption. And I suppose
the idea of a Ukraine investigation to find the DNC server in Ukraine, to
investigate Crowdstrike, a US company, those strike you as sensible?
He should be removed by the 25th just for believing that, it's NUTS.



Do you insist that a President always be 100% right?

No, of course not. But I do kind of insist that they not commit stupid,
clearly impeachable acts, like withholding aid that Congress approved,
that Ukraine desperately needs for their own personal, political purposes.
That's the essence of a high crime.



Heve you seen the

Biden billion-dollar Ukraine threat video? Does that outrage you as
much as Trump asking "a favor" to look into corruption?

Sure, I've seen it. I've also read the many reports, statements that
what Biden was leveraging, the removal of the prosecutor, was because
the prosecutor was CORRUPT and not pursuing prosecution of corruption.
Apparently that was the position of the Obama administration, the State
Dept, Europe and the IMF. Biden told them to go ahead and call Obama,
so was Obama in on some conspiracy to fire the prosecutor just to help
Biden's son? If that's the case, why would Biden go out and talk about
it in public? Think!

That's what I see. I have no problem with it being investigated. I would
like to see it substantiated that removing the prosecutor was in fact
agreed to by all of the above, that Biden didn't just do it rogue. There
should be plenty of records of all that. More importanly, where is Trump
and the Republicans and Democrats on passing new laws so that is clearly
ILLEGAL, without any proof needed? Your son or any relative takes a deal
like that, you should be required to immediately report it publically and
recuse yourself. But that law won't be forthcoming, for obvious reasons.
Draining the swamp is just another big Trump lie.

And what the Bidens did or didn't do has nothing to do with what Trump just
did. Their wrongs don't make a right.

One of the (few) advantages of a 2-party political system is that they
scrutinize one another for corruption.

That;s true. But so far all the Republicans have on the Democrats is
pay-to-play that is disgusting and looks bad, but the chances of proving
a crime is very slim. Meanwhile the Democrats have the Trump call and
lots of testimony that shows what he was up to and it is a clear abuse
of his power and impeachable. Call that the Democrats being shysters
and smart, if you will and Trump being a shyster and stupid. Those are
the breaks. Trump is caught with abundant evidence.

It is unfortunate that fat cats are rarely prosecuted for criminal
acts.

The first problem is that what the Bidens did isn't a violation of the
law. If you think it is, cite for us the law and evidence of the crime.
Good luck with that.

What's shocking is the crowd of ancient criminals and lunatics that
the Dems have available to run against him. Tulsi Gabbard is at least
sane, but is, by good authority, a Russian asset. And not crazy enough
to get the nomination anyhow.

Tribalism is sure a mess.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

What good authority is there that Gabbard is a Russian asset?

Hillary said so.

Nuff said on that.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[bitrex]

On 10/26/19 8:20 PM, bitrex wrote:

Yet it's what cops frequently do to protect you.  And many times it;s
not by themselves.  When the stupid perp spins around, reaches in his
pants, is he any less dead if he's shot by two or three cops, than by
one?
The vast majority of these police shootings, it's not black or white,
it's a perp fleeing, resisting arrest, doing something really, really
stupid, creating a toxic, volatile situation.  And then the BLM folks
and libs always blame the cops.

A classic example of this BS, last week the NYC police responded to a
call with a naked black guy running amok.  They showed up, he had a gun
he wound up shooting and hitting a NYC cop, but fortunately he had a
bullet proof vest on.  The cops returned fire, killing him.  Guess
what the mother is doing?  Teaming up with the usual Black Lies Matter
race baiters and trying to blame the cops.  Quite amazing.

Ah, yeah, the blacks are running amok again. There must be some site
like "Wild Nigger News" or something for down-low WNs that just show all
the poor black-people crimes and nothing about all the violent insane
poor white people who run amok plenty, too.

it often never makes the news cuz when white people go Wild Wigger the
police calmly talk them down for hours, please put the gun away, sir,
they have a group hug and then quietly cart them off to the loony bin
for more group huggies.