Where can I buy a large analogue meter?...

[Max Demian]

On 16/04/2022 12:16, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 23:36:13 +0100, danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com
wrote:

[snip]

Could do, but I remember a long long time ago when I was at school,
the
teacher had a voltmeter with a foot long needle. They must exist
somewhere.

It may be stuff specific for schools, not really for labs or industry.

I\'d _love_ to get my hands on one of those foot high by three foot
long slide rules that used to hand from science lab ceilings...

That\'s not what they were used for.  This:
https://www.thebrightbeetle.com/shop/wooden-tool-two-large-set-squares-for-blackboard-including-ruler/

was commonly used for belting a noisy pupil, whacking the desk to make a
loud noise to get attention, and waking up pupils that had fallen asleep
by banging it on the desk 1 inch away from their sleeping head.  I saw
one get destroyed when it split in two.  The single glazed window that
half collided with was also shattered.

So not a slide rule. Either or both of you are in the company of Sam
Cooke: #\"Don\'t know what a slide rule is for.\"#

--
Max Demian

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 17:40:41 +0100, Max Demian <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:

On 16/04/2022 12:16, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 23:36:13 +0100, danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com
wrote:

[snip]

Could do, but I remember a long long time ago when I was at school,
the
teacher had a voltmeter with a foot long needle. They must exist
somewhere.

It may be stuff specific for schools, not really for labs or industry.

I\'d _love_ to get my hands on one of those foot high by three foot
long slide rules that used to hand from science lab ceilings...

That\'s not what they were used for. This:
https://www.thebrightbeetle.com/shop/wooden-tool-two-large-set-squares-for-blackboard-including-ruler/

was commonly used for belting a noisy pupil, whacking the desk to make a
loud noise to get attention, and waking up pupils that had fallen asleep
by banging it on the desk 1 inch away from their sleeping head. I saw
one get destroyed when it split in two. The single glazed window that
half collided with was also shattered.

So not a slide rule. Either or both of you are in the company of Sam
Cooke: #\"Don\'t know what a slide rule is for.\"#

Get your OCD seen to by a doctor immediately, then come back and talk to the adults.

At no point did I say my link was a slide rule you fucking moron.

 

[Peeler]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 17:40:41 +0100, Max Dumb, the REAL dumb, notorious,
troll-feeding senile idiot, blathered again:

So not a slide rule. Either or both of you are in the company of Sam
Cooke: #\"Don\'t know what a slide rule is for.\"#

HE\'s regularly in the company of the men in the white coats, you
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE!

 

[Jock]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 20:37:56 +1000, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com>
wrote:

On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 11:35:52 +0100, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:06:34 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\"
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 15/04/2022 21:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

BEVs are very mature technology. There is only a bit left to improve.
Like aircraft and cars in general.

Yeah, they keep saying that about computers, too. And they\'re
constantly proved wrong.

They are completely right about computers. They cant be clocked any
faster, they cant be made to work with much less power - all they can
do
is add more cores.

The new(ish) Apple processors use a fraction (between and half and a
third) of
the power used by an Intel equivalent.

And this feat of breaking the laws of physics is achieved by?

No breaking of any laws of physics involves, just better design.

 

[Jock]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 21:13:25 +1000, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com>
wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 22:46:47 +0100, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home
wrote:

\"Carlos E.R.\" <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
On 2022-04-14 13:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:52:32 +0100, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:45:06 +0100) it happened
\"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.1kl2tgobmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

Where can I buy a large analogue meter? Big enough to show to a
room
of people, about a foot long pointer.

Use a small one, camera and monitor?
Or just draw it digitally on a monitor?

Could do, but I remember a long long time ago when I was at school,
the
teacher had a voltmeter with a foot long needle. They must exist
somewhere.

It may be stuff specific for schools, not really for labs or industry.

Indeed. And a lot of that stuff just isn\'t made any more,
like orrery\'s, which used to be in every gradeschool science class.

I\'m sure they\'re in some science museums. I guess now we have to make
do with pictures on a computer screen.

It isn\'t make do, it is vastly better. That\'s why there isn\'t a market for
the old stuff anymore.

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 04:31:22 +1000, Jock, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

<FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins\' endless absolutely idiotic
blather>


--
Marland answering senile Rodent\'s statement, \"I don\'t leak\":
\"That¢s because so much piss and shite emanates from your gob that there is
nothing left to exit normally, your arsehole has clammed shut through disuse
and the end of prick is only clear because you are such a Wanker.\"
Message-ID: <gm2h57Frj93U1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 04:33:18 +1000, Jock, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

<FLUSH the two subnormal sociopathic cretins\' endless absolutely idiotic
blather>

--
Tim+ about trolling Rodent Speed:
He is by far the most persistent troll who seems to be able to get under the
skin of folk who really should know better. Since when did arguing with a
troll ever achieve anything (beyond giving the troll pleasure)?
MID: <1421057667.659518815.743467.tim.downie-gmail.com@news.individual.net>

 

[Jock]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 22:56:14 +1000, The Natural Philosopher
<tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 16/04/2022 12:39, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2022-04-16, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 15/04/2022 21:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

BEVs are very mature technology. There is only a bit left to improve.
Like aircraft and cars in general.

Yeah, they keep saying that about computers, too. And they\'re
constantly proved wrong.

They are completely right about computers. They cant be clocked any
faster, they cant be made to work with much less power - all they can
do
is add more cores.

The only radical breakthrough in the last 20 years has been the solid
state disk.

Radical breakthroughs aren\'t how things happen.

Some of the time it is, most obviously with solid state disks,
led lights, ECMs in cars, inductive charging etc etc etc.

> Slow and steady wins the race.

Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn\'t. Sometimes it takes
a radical breakthru like with flying, nuclear power etc etc etc.

Hand wavey platitude.

In 1976 I got 50mpg out of my car. In 2020 I got 50 mpg...

And modern cars require far less tuning and are
much more reliable than one that is 50 years old.

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 05:05:09 +1000, Jock, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
williamwright addressing Rodent Speed:
\"You are an insecure blathermouth with an inferiority complex.\"
MID: <j08dicFcuptU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Jimmy Farley]

On 4/16/2022 3:05:09 PM, Jock wrote:

And modern cars require far less tuning and are
much more reliable than one that is 50 years old.

In 1979, my wife and I bought a new Ford Mustang. On the way home from the dealer, the engine stalled at every stoplight.

Fast forward to 2017 when I bought a new Ford Escape. Yup, you guessed it. On the way home from the dealer, the engine stalled at every stoplight.

Apparently the engineers couldn\'t keep the engine running at low RPM so the marketing department named the \"feature\" Auto Start/Stop technology.


( Seriously though, the Escape has been awesome. We plan to buy an Explorer soon. )

 

[Jock]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 06:31:39 +1000, Jimmy Farley <jimmy.farley@fake.id>
wrote:

On 4/16/2022 3:05:09 PM, Jock wrote:
And modern cars require far less tuning and are
much more reliable than one that is 50 years old.


In 1979, my wife and I bought a new Ford Mustang. On the way home from
the dealer, the engine stalled at every stoplight.

Fast forward to 2017 when I bought a new Ford Escape. Yup, you guessed
it. On the way home from the dealer, the engine stalled at every
stoplight.

Apparently the engineers couldn\'t keep the engine running at low RPM so
the marketing department named the \"feature\" Auto Start/Stop technology.


( Seriously though, the Escape has been awesome. We plan to buy an
Explorer soon. )

Dunno, I have watch recent denials by Ford about their engines
failing and wouldn\'t touch a Ford myself. I prefer Hyundais.

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 06:54:53 +1000, Jock, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2022-04-16, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:31:06 +0100, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:52:08 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\"
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 16/04/2022 11:35, RJH wrote:
On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:06:34 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\"
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 15/04/2022 21:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

BEVs are very mature technology. There is only a bit left to improve.
Like aircraft and cars in general.

Yeah, they keep saying that about computers, too. And they\'re
constantly proved wrong.

They are completely right about computers. They cant be clocked any
faster, they cant be made to work with much less power - all they can do
is add more cores.


The new(ish) Apple processors use a fraction (between and half and a third) of
the power used by an Intel equivalent.

That by itself, says nothing
A Z80 uses way less power than a pentium
A motorcycle uses way less power than a ferrari.

It says everything. Less power for the same load - google Apple M1

I prefer things designed for adults.

I very much doubt Apple can beat Intel anyway.

It\'s not Apple vs Intel it\'s TSMC vs Intel.

Apple\'s processor is an ARM so it\'s going to be more efficient than
intels X86

--
Jasen.

 

[Joe Gwinn]

On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 23:20:48 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
<usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

On 2022-04-16, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:31:06 +0100, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:52:08 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\"
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 16/04/2022 11:35, RJH wrote:
On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:06:34 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\"
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 15/04/2022 21:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

BEVs are very mature technology. There is only a bit left to improve.
Like aircraft and cars in general.

Yeah, they keep saying that about computers, too. And they\'re
constantly proved wrong.

They are completely right about computers. They cant be clocked any
faster, they cant be made to work with much less power - all they can do
is add more cores.


The new(ish) Apple processors use a fraction (between and half and a third) of
the power used by an Intel equivalent.

That by itself, says nothing
A Z80 uses way less power than a pentium
A motorcycle uses way less power than a ferrari.

It says everything. Less power for the same load - google Apple M1

I prefer things designed for adults.

I very much doubt Apple can beat Intel anyway.

It\'s not Apple vs Intel it\'s TSMC vs Intel.

Apple\'s processor is an ARM so it\'s going to be more efficient than
intels X86

The long-term problem with Intel is that they cannot let go of the x86
architecture, and over time this has become severely limiting.

Apple had the same problem, but eventually did transition from
Motorola CPUs to Intel, gaining the ability to run Windows on Apple
desktop and laptop computers. But the Intel architecture had become
too hide-bound, and Apple was more or less forced to escape.

But I wonder how well and how long Apple\'s new M1 architecture will be
able to support running Windows OS and software, which is exactly what
I\'m using as I type these words. (iMac (with lots of memory),
Parallels, Win10, Forte Agent.)

I may stay on Intel for that reason, for desktops, but iPhones and
iPads will go M1, because I have no reason to retain Intel there. But
I will wait for the few apps I use to have become mature on M1 first.

Joe Gwinn

 

[rbowman]

On 04/16/2022 05:20 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2022-04-16, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:31:06 +0100, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:52:08 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\"
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 16/04/2022 11:35, RJH wrote:
On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:06:34 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\"
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 15/04/2022 21:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

BEVs are very mature technology. There is only a bit left to improve.
Like aircraft and cars in general.

Yeah, they keep saying that about computers, too. And they\'re
constantly proved wrong.

They are completely right about computers. They cant be clocked any
faster, they cant be made to work with much less power - all they can do
is add more cores.


The new(ish) Apple processors use a fraction (between and half and a third) of
the power used by an Intel equivalent.

That by itself, says nothing
A Z80 uses way less power than a pentium
A motorcycle uses way less power than a ferrari.

It says everything. Less power for the same load - google Apple M1

I prefer things designed for adults.

I very much doubt Apple can beat Intel anyway.

It\'s not Apple vs Intel it\'s TSMC vs Intel.

True, but possibly not the way you meant it. AMD is partnered with TSMC
and the Zen 3+ design on TSMC 6nm capabilities is currently kicking
Intel ass.

Apple\'s processor is an ARM so it\'s going to be more efficient than
intels X86

When comparing RISC to CISC you have to be careful to specify what area
you\'re comparing for efficiency. Power consumption has been where RISC
has shone. It took a while for compilers to catch up to create optimized
code. Code size is necessarily greater, hence more RAM.

RISC designed like Atmel\'s AVR products are a lot more fun to program in
assembler even if it does take more lines.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 1:32:48 AM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 16:10:50 +0100, RJH <patch...@gmx.com> wrote:
On 16 Apr 2022 at 13:58:46 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\" <t...@invalid..invalid> wrote:
On 16/04/2022 13:31, RJH wrote:
On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:52:08 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 16/04/2022 11:35, RJH wrote:
On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:06:34 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 15/04/2022 21:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

<snip>

Nope. Apple Mac mini M1 power consumption is 3 times lower than Intel model:
A testament of Apple Silicon\'s efficiency

Not exactly. More of a testament to the silicon foundry that turned Apple\'s processor design into an integrated circuit.

https://www.techspot.com/news/88482-apple-mac-mini-m1-power-consumption-3-times.html

Yeah right, someone can make a better chip than Intel. ROTFPMSL!

Of course they can. Intel\'s silicon foundry has been lagging the state of the art for a few years now. They\'ve now bought one that they hope can do better.

https://fortune.com/2022/02/15/intel-tower-semiconductor-foundry-acquisition-fabless-chips-rivals-nvidia-amd-qualcomm-tsmc/

ArtStudents™ think Marketing is engineering.
Bless!

Really?

Yes really. ART, not Engineering. Different mindset entirely.

Marketing is a kind of engineering - describing what you have to sell in terms that make it look attractive to people who don\'t actually know what they are buying, without leaving any room for lawyer to charge you with fraud.. The tools involved are words, and Commander Kinsey doesn\'t know what they mean - or at least not exactly enough to realise what is involved.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sat, 16 Apr 22 20:31:39 UTC) it happened Jimmy Farley
<jimmy.farley@fake.id> wrote in
<yCPhHhTpuqyZjmKLJmgwJTVvZQiJtetO@news.usenet.farm>:

On 4/16/2022 3:05:09 PM, Jock wrote:
And modern cars require far less tuning and are
much more reliable than one that is 50 years old.


In 1979, my wife and I bought a new Ford Mustang. On the way home from the dealer, the engine stalled at every stoplight.

Lemme see, around 1973 I had a Ford Mustang V8 Cobra Special
Never stalled at stoplights,.. Out of there fast

Fast forward to 2017 when I bought a new Ford Escape. Yup, you guessed it. On the way home from the dealer, the engine stalled
at every stoplight.

Apparently the engineers couldn\'t keep the engine running at low RPM so the marketing department named the \"feature\" Auto
Start/Stop technology.

Maybe saves fuel?
With today\'s prices not a bad idea?

( Seriously though, the Escape has been awesome. We plan to buy an Explorer soon. )

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 17/04/2022 00:20, Jasen Betts wrote:

On 2022-04-16, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:31:06 +0100, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:52:08 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\"
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 16/04/2022 11:35, RJH wrote:
On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:06:34 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\"
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 15/04/2022 21:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

BEVs are very mature technology. There is only a bit left to improve.
Like aircraft and cars in general.

Yeah, they keep saying that about computers, too. And they\'re
constantly proved wrong.

They are completely right about computers. They cant be clocked any
faster, they cant be made to work with much less power - all they can do
is add more cores.


The new(ish) Apple processors use a fraction (between and half and a third) of
the power used by an Intel equivalent.

That by itself, says nothing
A Z80 uses way less power than a pentium
A motorcycle uses way less power than a ferrari.

It says everything. Less power for the same load - google Apple M1

I prefer things designed for adults.

I very much doubt Apple can beat Intel anyway.

It\'s not Apple vs Intel it\'s TSMC vs Intel.

Apple\'s processor is an ARM so it\'s going to be more efficient than
intels X86

In terms of power consumption, yes, but is that the be all and end all
of \'efficiency\'?


--
Climate is what you expect but weather is what you get.
Mark Twain

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 17/04/2022 01:38, rbowman wrote:

On 04/16/2022 05:20 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2022-04-16, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:31:06 +0100, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:52:08 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\"
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 16/04/2022 11:35, RJH wrote:
On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:06:34 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\"
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 15/04/2022 21:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

BEVs are very mature technology. There is only a bit left to
improve.
Like aircraft and cars in general.

Yeah, they keep saying that about computers, too.  And they\'re
constantly proved wrong.

They are completely right about computers. They cant be clocked any
faster, they cant be made to work with much less power - all they
can do
is add more cores.


The new(ish) Apple processors use a fraction (between and half and
a third) of
the power used by an Intel equivalent.

That by itself, says nothing
A Z80 uses way less power than a pentium
A motorcycle uses way less power than a ferrari.

It says everything. Less power for the same load - google Apple M1

I prefer things designed for adults.

I very much doubt Apple can beat Intel anyway.

It\'s not Apple vs Intel it\'s TSMC vs Intel.

True, but possibly not the way you meant it. AMD is partnered with TSMC
and the Zen 3+ design on TSMC 6nm capabilities is currently kicking
Intel ass.

Apple\'s processor is an ARM so it\'s going to be more efficient than
intels X86

When comparing RISC to CISC you have to be careful to specify what area
you\'re comparing for efficiency. Power consumption has been where RISC
has shone. It took a while for compilers to catch up to create optimized
code. Code size is necessarily greater, hence more RAM.

RISC designed like Atmel\'s AVR products are a lot more fun to program in
assembler even if it does take more lines.

I\'ve not found any ARM will beat a late model Intel yet, but there is no
reason why ultimately it shouldn\'t. After all most CISC processors are
RISC processors with microcode.

But the point here is that Apple didn\'t \'design\' the chip any more than
it designed the 6502, 6800, power PC or Intel chips.


--
Climate is what you expect but weather is what you get.
Mark Twain

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 01:03:59 +0100, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:

On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 23:20:48 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts
usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

On 2022-04-16, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 13:31:06 +0100, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:52:08 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\"
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 16/04/2022 11:35, RJH wrote:
On 16 Apr 2022 at 11:06:34 BST, \"The Natural Philosopher\"
tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 15/04/2022 21:28, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

BEVs are very mature technology. There is only a bit left to improve.
Like aircraft and cars in general.

Yeah, they keep saying that about computers, too. And they\'re
constantly proved wrong.

They are completely right about computers. They cant be clocked any
faster, they cant be made to work with much less power - all they can do
is add more cores.


The new(ish) Apple processors use a fraction (between and half and a third) of
the power used by an Intel equivalent.

That by itself, says nothing
A Z80 uses way less power than a pentium
A motorcycle uses way less power than a ferrari.

It says everything. Less power for the same load - google Apple M1

I prefer things designed for adults.

I very much doubt Apple can beat Intel anyway.

It\'s not Apple vs Intel it\'s TSMC vs Intel.

Apple\'s processor is an ARM so it\'s going to be more efficient than
intels X86

The long-term problem with Intel is that they cannot let go of the x86
architecture, and over time this has become severely limiting.

Apple had the same problem, but eventually did transition from
Motorola CPUs to Intel, gaining the ability to run Windows on Apple
desktop and laptop computers. But the Intel architecture had become
too hide-bound, and Apple was more or less forced to escape.

But I wonder how well and how long Apple\'s new M1 architecture will be
able to support running Windows OS and software, which is exactly what
I\'m using as I type these words. (iMac (with lots of memory),
Parallels, Win10, Forte Agent.)

I may stay on Intel for that reason, for desktops, but iPhones and
iPads will go M1, because I have no reason to retain Intel there. But
I will wait for the few apps I use to have become mature on M1 first.

So a speed change but no compatibility? Bit of a bugger to change every program\'s coding.

Anyway, within the x86 architecture they keep adding instructions etc. Can\'t it be improved out of the mess?