Where can I buy a large analogue meter?...

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 15/04/2022 16:42, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Obviously you have never seen the evolution of cars, airplanes,
electronics and the advances that can be made in five years.

Obviously you haven\'t .

Nothing much has changed in any of those fields - they are pretty mature
tech.

Coincidentally, I had a conversation this morning with an engineer who
works for Ford. He works in image processing; one of the projects
he worked on a few years ago enables the backup camera to initiate
braking if it sees an obstacle. He actually benefited from this
feature on a cloudy, gray day when he was backing up toward a gray car.

My husband gave him an idea for additional features for automatic
headlights. He said he\'d split his bonus with us if he gets one.

There really is a lot more going on than you realize, TNP.

Oh golly, a reversing camera with smarts! That will really increase the
range

And what, pray *fundamental* difference does that make to the car?

Here we are with car with a battery we cant mine the minerals for with
a range that is inadequate and a charge time that is excessive.
I mean LETS ADD A SMART REVERSING CAMERA instead of solving the
insoluble problems and call it \'new tech\'

In my day we called it \'chrome, and tailfins\'

God you are pathetic.

--
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as
foolish, and by the rulers as useful.

(Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 15/04/2022 18:13, Tim+ wrote:

Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@devnull.com> wrote:
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Obviously you have never seen the evolution of cars, airplanes,
electronics and the advances that can be made in five years.

Obviously you haven\'t .

Nothing much has changed in any of those fields - they are pretty mature
tech.

Coincidentally, I had a conversation this morning with an engineer who
works for Ford. He works in image processing; one of the projects
he worked on a few years ago enables the backup camera to initiate
braking if it sees an obstacle. He actually benefited from this
feature on a cloudy, gray day when he was backing up toward a gray car.

My husband gave him an idea for additional features for automatic
headlights. He said he\'d split his bonus with us if he gets one.

There really is a lot more going on than you realize, TNP.


I think TNP has reached his “new tech” limit.

The automatic headlights on my car are quite amazing. I haven’t worked out
how the work but they’re a *lot* more sophisticated that a simple forward
pointing photocell. I suspect some fairly serious image processing is going
on.

Tim

And how much has the increased the range?

--
“The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that
the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.\"

- Bertrand Russell

 

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 4/15/2022 1:39 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 15/04/2022 15:50, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/15/2022 10:40 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 15/04/2022 13:17, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/15/2022 5:11 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/04/2022 20:45, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 4/14/2022 2:44 PM, Jock wrote:


Would you buy a 6.2 litre electric car?

I\'m not actually stupid enough to buy any electric car.

Wait 5 years.  They will be much better in many ways. New battery
material, greater range, charging times not much different that
pumping a tank of gas.
wait 5 years ... if they haven\'t got much better - same  battery
material, same range, charging times not much different than now -
then quietly forget the whole idea...


Obviously you have never seen the evolution of cars, airplanes,
electronics and the advances that can be made in five years.

Obviously you haven\'t .

Nothing much has changed in any of those fields - they are pretty
mature tech.

Cars today no longer have to be hand cranked to start
Nor have they been for the last 60 years

  and the top models
even have heaters in them.

I remember heaters in the 1950 cars

  Amazing the progress they made.

Amazing the delusions you suffer from


I don\'t understand why people go into engineering and science.
According to you, everything is already invented and will never get
better. Nothing can or will be improved.

They go into engineering in order to ensure they dont waste millions of
other peoples money trying to invent stuff that will never work, because
it cannot work.

BEVs are very mature technology. There is only a bit left to improve.
Like aircraft and cars in general.

But believe what you will. Its nicer to beleive in warm cuddly
optimistic shit rather than face reality.

In 1889, Charles H. Duell was the Commissioner of US patent office. He
is widely quoted as having stated that the patent office would soon
shrink in size, and eventually close, because… “Everything that can be
invented has been invented.”

 

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 4/15/2022 1:43 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 15/04/2022 16:42, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Obviously you have never seen the evolution of cars, airplanes,
electronics and the advances that can be made in five years.

Obviously you haven\'t .

Nothing much has changed in any of those fields - they are pretty mature
tech.

Coincidentally, I had a conversation this morning with an engineer who
works for Ford.  He works in image processing; one of the projects
he worked on a few years ago enables the backup camera to initiate
braking if it sees an obstacle.  He actually benefited from this
feature on a cloudy, gray day when he was backing up toward a gray car.

My husband gave him an idea for additional features for automatic
headlights.  He said he\'d split his bonus with us if he gets one.

There really is a lot more going on than you realize, TNP.

Oh golly, a reversing camera with smarts! That will really increase the
range

And what, pray *fundamental* difference does that make to the car?

Here we are with  car with a battery we cant mine the minerals for with
a range that is inadequate and a charge time that is excessive.
I mean LETS ADD A SMART REVERSING CAMERA instead of solving the
insoluble problems and call it \'new tech\'

In my day we called it \'chrome, and tailfins\'

God you are pathetic.

No, you are pathetic. See my post about the new battery materials in
the works. Sorry you cannot see the future. It will be fun for those of
us that embrace it.

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 15/04/2022 18:13, Tim+ wrote:
Cindy Hamilton <hamilton@devnull.com> wrote:
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Obviously you have never seen the evolution of cars, airplanes,
electronics and the advances that can be made in five years.

Obviously you haven\'t .

Nothing much has changed in any of those fields - they are pretty mature
tech.

Coincidentally, I had a conversation this morning with an engineer who
works for Ford. He works in image processing; one of the projects
he worked on a few years ago enables the backup camera to initiate
braking if it sees an obstacle. He actually benefited from this
feature on a cloudy, gray day when he was backing up toward a gray car.

My husband gave him an idea for additional features for automatic
headlights. He said he\'d split his bonus with us if he gets one.

There really is a lot more going on than you realize, TNP.


I think TNP has reached his “new tech” limit.

The automatic headlights on my car are quite amazing. I haven’t worked out
how the work but they’re a *lot* more sophisticated that a simple forward
pointing photocell. I suspect some fairly serious image processing is going
on.

Tim

And how much has the increased the range?

Range isn\'t the only criterion for better headlights.

<https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/17/22937489/nhtsa-allows-adb-adaptive-driving-beam-technology>

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

[\"Followup-To:\" header set to alt.home.repair.]
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 15/04/2022 16:42, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Obviously you have never seen the evolution of cars, airplanes,
electronics and the advances that can be made in five years.

Obviously you haven\'t .

Nothing much has changed in any of those fields - they are pretty mature
tech.

Coincidentally, I had a conversation this morning with an engineer who
works for Ford. He works in image processing; one of the projects
he worked on a few years ago enables the backup camera to initiate
braking if it sees an obstacle. He actually benefited from this
feature on a cloudy, gray day when he was backing up toward a gray car.

My husband gave him an idea for additional features for automatic
headlights. He said he\'d split his bonus with us if he gets one.

There really is a lot more going on than you realize, TNP.

Oh golly, a reversing camera with smarts! That will really increase the
range

Why are you obsessed with range? In any event, the range for EVs
increased from a little over 250 miles in 2015 to almost 400 miles in
2020.

There are more than 10 million electric cars on the road worldwide.
That\'s not penny ante.

And what, pray *fundamental* difference does that make to the car?

Here we are with car with a battery we cant mine the minerals for with
a range that is inadequate and a charge time that is excessive.
I mean LETS ADD A SMART REVERSING CAMERA instead of solving the
insoluble problems and call it \'new tech\'

This tech (and a lot of other new tech) works on internal combustion
cars as well as electrics.

In my day we called it \'chrome, and tailfins\'

God you are pathetic.

Takes one to know one.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2022-04-14 13:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:52:32 +0100, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:45:06 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.1kl2tgobmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

Where can I buy a large analogue meter?  Big enough to show to a room
of people, about a foot long pointer.

Use a small one, camera and monitor?
Or just draw it digitally on a monitor?

Could do, but I remember a long long time ago when I was at school, the
teacher had a voltmeter with a foot long needle.  They must exist
somewhere.

It may be stuff specific for schools, not really for labs or industry.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2022-04-15, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

BEVs are very mature technology. There is only a bit left to improve.
Like aircraft and cars in general.

Yeah, they keep saying that about computers, too. And they\'re
constantly proved wrong.

--
Cindy Hamilton

 

[server]

Peeler <trollretard@valid.invalid> wrote in
news:%7i6K.1093036$dS2.335434@usenetxs.com:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 17:00:36 +0100, newshound, yet another
troll-feeding senile idiot, blabbered again:


As I said, chemical plant still has a use for pressure gauges.

As I said, the sociopathic Scottish wanker and attention whore
still has a use for otherwise useless senile assholes like you as
long as they keep feeding him. <G

SHUT THE FUCK UP, RETARDED TROLL!

 

[Peeler]

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 22:27:33 +0200, Carlos E.R., another brain dead,
troll-feeding senile asshole, bullshitted:

It may be stuff specific for schools, not really for labs or industry.

It\'s mainly stuff for trolling in these groups, senile shithead! Get a clue,
finally! <tsk>

Cheers! <BG>

 

[Scott Lurndal]

\"Carlos E.R.\" <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:

On 2022-04-14 13:13, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:52:32 +0100, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:45:06 +0100) it happened \"Commander
Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in <op.1kl2tgobmvhs6z@ryzen.lan>:

Where can I buy a large analogue meter?  Big enough to show to a room
of people, about a foot long pointer.

Use a small one, camera and monitor?
Or just draw it digitally on a monitor?

Could do, but I remember a long long time ago when I was at school, the
teacher had a voltmeter with a foot long needle.  They must exist
somewhere.

It may be stuff specific for schools, not really for labs or industry.

Indeed. And a lot of that stuff just isn\'t made any more,
like orrery\'s, which used to be in every gradeschool science class.

 

[Peeler]

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 21:33:33 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org, an ESPECIALLY retarded,
troll-feeding, senile ASSHOLE, blathered, yet again:

As I said, the sociopathic Scottish wanker and attention whore
still has a use for otherwise useless senile assholes like you as
long as they keep feeding him. <G


SHUT THE FUCK UP, RETARDED TROLL!

HAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! Senile idiot just can\'t hear the truth! Another typical
senile thing! LOL

 

[danny burstein]

[snip]

Could do, but I remember a long long time ago when I was at school, the
teacher had a voltmeter with a foot long needle. They must exist
somewhere.

It may be stuff specific for schools, not really for labs or industry.

I\'d _love_ to get my hands on one of those foot high by three foot
long slide rules that used to hand from science lab ceilings...

--
_____________________________________________________
Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key
dannyb@panix.com
[to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]

 

[T]

On 4/15/22 14:33, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

> SHUT THE FUCK UP, RETARDED TROLL!

Do you know how to do a kill file?

 

[server]

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:t3cv1h$28h$2@dont-email.me:

On 4/15/22 14:33, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

SHUT THE FUCK UP, RETARDED TROLL!

Do you know how to do a kill file?

Do you know how to ALSO STAY THE FUCK OUT OF IT.

Use your own kill file, know nothing putz.

 

[T]

On 4/15/22 19:35, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:t3cv1h$28h$2@dont-email.me:

On 4/15/22 14:33, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

SHUT THE FUCK UP, RETARDED TROLL!

Do you know how to do a kill file?



Do you know how to ALSO STAY THE FUCK OUT OF IT.

Use your own kill file, know nothing putz.

If you used Thunderbird, I was actually going to help
you with it, as I am familiar with it. But not so
much after your last response.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 2:11:02 AM UTC+10, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 17:00:36 +0100, newshound <sradcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 15/04/2022 08:59, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 17:40:11 +0100, newshound <sradcl...@gmail.com


Easier to press a button on Ebay, I can\'t believe nobody makes them.

I can. Why would they?. As Martin says, just keep searching eBay.

To quickly see a value from a distance.

You will still be able to find large analogue pressure gauges, these are
still used in industry.

It\'s volts and amps I want.

Yes. And when, on the plant, they have volts they can drive an
electronic device that is going to be cheaper, more accurate, have
logging and remote transmission capability, be self illuminating, etc
etc. And when it stops working they know the volts have stopped too.

But there\'s the basic idea a big analogue thing gives you a rough reading fast, and a digital one gives you an accurate reading slowly. Compare analogue clock face to digital watch. Compare analogue speedometer to digital.

Digital can give you what you want when you want it. It can be faster and sloppier than analog if that\'s what you design it to do.

Displays don\'t have to have any mechanical inertia.

As I said, chemical plant still has a use for pressure gauges.

Surely there are digital ones of those?

Of course. Honeywell has been making integrated circuit pressure sensors for decades now. You\'ve got to wrap some extra electronics around them to provide a display that the human plant operators can read, and the display is chosen to suit what the plant operators want.

https://au.rs-online.com/web/p/pressure-sensors/2023537

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[server]

T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:t3dajd$2m1$1@dont-email.me:

On 4/15/22 19:35, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:t3cv1h$28h$2@dont-email.me:

On 4/15/22 14:33, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

SHUT THE FUCK UP, RETARDED TROLL!

Do you know how to do a kill file?



Do you know how to ALSO STAY THE FUCK OUT OF IT.

Use your own kill file, know nothing putz.

If you used Thunderbird, I was actually going to help
you with it, as I am familiar with it. But not so
much after your last response.

I do not do Usenet via a web browser.

I do not filter my feed and do not need a primer nor a suggestion
to do so.

And I get snappy when told to filter someone. I would rather call
him the asswipe he is than filter him. But thanks anyway.

 

[Peeler]

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 16:27:45 -0700, T(wat), the idiotic troll-feeding senile
asshole, babbled again:

SHUT THE FUCK UP, RETARDED TROLL!

Do you know how to do a kill file?

I LOVE it when you trolling senile assholes, totally unawares, keep exposing
your senility! LOL

--
Manson about senile T(wat):
\"T as in Terminal Troll.
Nothing you say is what you believe. You just say shit to start
shit.\"
MID: <faa3948d-96dc-47d4-a2bc-754dfe586d93n@googlegroups.com>

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 15/04/2022 19:58, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

In 1889, Charles H. Duell was the Commissioner of US patent office. He
is widely quoted as having stated that the patent office would soon
shrink in size, and eventually close, because… “Everything that can be
invented has been invented.”

in 2021, the patent office has on file millions of patents of which less
than 1% actually proved useful.


--
In todays liberal progressive conflict-free education system, everyone
gets full Marx.