What sucks about flux

[Fred Abse]

On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 22:39:37 +0000, Joerg wrote:

Hello Fred,

Or the semi-centrifugal clutch that pinned a buddy of mine against a wall
when he left it in gear and went around the front to get something from
the back of the garage?

The Citroen 2CV? I never saw any like that. When did they build those?
The 2CV typically (maybe always) had a four speed, regular clutch and
the gears were located a bit reversed. 1st was left and back, 2nd was
forward etc. Like some Datsuns except that the 2CV didn't have a 5th
gear. The stick came straight out of the middle of the dash and looked
like a cane.

IIRC, back in the 1960s. Not a fully centrifugal clutch, but very light
springs, assisted by bob weights. Idling, you could push it out with one
finger. Revving, it got tighter. Problem was, the springs got weak, and it
would actually stay disengaged idling.

The one I saw was a home market 2CV, in France, about 1970.

A car that had a centrifugal clutch was the Dutch DAF and very few small
Volvos after they bought DAF and produced them there. That's the only
case I know of.

I remember those. Infinitely variable transmission using vee belts and
expanding pulleys. Well, Holland is pretty flat

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)

 

[Tony Williams]

In article <42fe8513$0$1254$e4fe514c@dreader31.news.xs4all.nl>,
Frank Bemelman <f.bemelmanq@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

Memories... I parked my fathers' DAF66 against a tree, at 90
KM/Hr. He bought a Volvo66 to replace it.

I think Van Doorn is still in business, still making
continuously variable gearboxes. Steel belts now,
and cones moved by hydraulic cylinders.

--
Tony Williams.

 

[Paul Burke]

Pooh Bear wrote:

have the later blinking light indicators, or the earlier
little semaphore arm, that usually got stuck, and even when it worked
perfectly was practically invisible?


Like Joerg, I've never seen those on a 2CV. Too complicated for one I'd
have thought. I do recall them on cars like the Austin A35.

Apparently they were only fitted on the few manufactured in Slough (UK),
about 1953 onwards.

Paul Burke

 

[Paul Burke]

Fred Abse wrote:

Or the semi-centrifugal clutch that pinned a buddy of mine against a wall
when he left it in gear and went around the front to get something from
the back of the garage?

I had a Citroen Ami 6 with that. The Ami was the same chassis and
(600cc) engine as the 2CV, but with a heavier, estate-car type body. We
called it the Clockwork Rat.

Once my sister-in-law was driving it, and she forgot about the unusual
gearchange gate arrangement in the summer queue to turn right to
Chatsworth House. She pushed it into gear straight forwards,
jackrabbited the clutch, the car took off backwards- and with that
clutch it was virtually unstallable. About three miles of queue behind
us did likewise in a great hurry.

That was about 3 months before the carburetter caught fire.

Paul Burke

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:47:16 +0100, Paul Burke <paul@scazon.com>
wrote:

Fred Abse wrote:

Or the semi-centrifugal clutch that pinned a buddy of mine against a wall
when he left it in gear and went around the front to get something from
the back of the garage?


I had a Citroen Ami 6 with that. The Ami was the same chassis and
(600cc) engine as the 2CV, but with a heavier, estate-car type body. We
called it the Clockwork Rat.

Once my sister-in-law was driving it, and she forgot about the unusual
gearchange gate arrangement in the summer queue to turn right to
Chatsworth House. She pushed it into gear straight forwards,
jackrabbited the clutch, the car took off backwards- and with that
clutch it was virtually unstallable. About three miles of queue behind
us did likewise in a great hurry.

That was about 3 months before the carburetter caught fire.

Paul Burke

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it was amusing then ;-)

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[Joerg]

Hello John,

Yeah, I could do that with my Sprite, but likely it was easier to jump
in. You could also drive it any distance with no clutch, which it
turns out you had to do fairly often... kill the engine, shift to
first, hit the starter, heel-and-toe after that. ...

Oh yes. Didn't you hate that "ka-cloink" sound when the bowden wire to
the clutch went?

The worst I had in my Citroen 2CV was when shifting one-two-
thr....whoopsa, there was the engine revving up and the whole stick
coming out of the dash. In the middle of rush hour traffic. Luckily
fixing that car rarely took more than some scrap wire and a few minutes.

Shortly after that I picked up a hitchhiker and when he saw a bent
welding rod coming out of the dash instead of the usual stick his face
turned pale.

... Not synchromesh in
first made it more challenging.

The synchromesh in a lot of those types of cars tended to vanish over
time. I guess the cost reducers figured that you'd be able to shift
without after a few years of practice. So they might those rings kind of
smallish.

Regards, Joerg

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[Boris Mohar]

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 17:57:30 +0100, Fred Abse
<excretatauris@cerebrumconfus.it> wrote:

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 08:27:48 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Antimony is a fairly positive laxitive. Back in the middle ages, a
solid lump of antimony was used as a reusable laxative tablet.

If I realized I'd just eaten a lump of antimony, I think I'd shit myself,
too

Especially when you found out where it's been.

--

Boris Mohar

 

[Tim Williams]

"Boris Mohar" <borism_-void-_@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:dgf2g190fo1o69jqoa0mrqomrsgn446ufd@4ax.com...

Antimony is a fairly positive laxitive. Back in the middle ages, a
solid lump of antimony was used as a reusable laxative tablet.

If I realized I'd just eaten a lump of antimony, I think I'd shit myself,
too

Especially when you found out where it's been.

....Kiss my ars[enic]!

Tim

--
Deep Fryer: a very philosophical monk.
Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

 

[Fred Abse]

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:47:16 +0100, Paul Burke wrote:

I had a Citroen Ami 6 with that. The Ami was the same chassis and
(600cc) engine as the 2CV, but with a heavier, estate-car type body. We
called it the Clockwork Rat.

Once my sister-in-law was driving it, and she forgot about the unusual
gearchange gate arrangement in the summer queue to turn right to
Chatsworth House. She pushed it into gear straight forwards,
jackrabbited the clutch, the car took off backwards- and with that
clutch it was virtually unstallable. About three miles of queue behind
us did likewise in a great hurry.

That was about 3 months before the carburetter caught fire.

With AMIs like that, who needs ennemis?


--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)

 

[Paul Burke]

Fred Abse wrote:

That was about 3 months before the carburetter caught fire.

With AMIs like that, who needs ennemis?

A l'eau, c'est l'heure.

Paul Burke

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Paul Burke <paul@scazon.com> wrote
(in <3mg645F1708ncU1@individual.net&gt about 'What sucks about flux', on
Wed, 17 Aug 2005:

Fred Abse wrote:

That was about 3 months before the carburetter caught fire.

With AMIs like that, who needs ennemis?

A l'eau, c'est l'heure.

Un petit d'un petit s'étonne aux Halles ... (;-)

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