What sucks about flux

Jim Thompson · Aug 11, 2005

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 01:12:21 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Frithiof Andreas,

Replacing them with Sodium-Sulfur of course - for a much more impressive
performance in Pegeuot 507 and Citroen C3 (Ronson and Zippo ... bwahahahah
;-).

Hey, nothing against Citroen. My 2CV was a good car. But it didn't have
a battery most of the time so I guess it already was RoHS compliant.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

What? Was that like my Dauphine? I'd get in with my left leg hanging
out and "back it out" of my space at Moto. Then I'd straighten it up
in the aisle and then "run with it" for 20-30 feet, jump in and pop
the clutch ;-)

Then I put a Ford 60A alternator in it, with remote sense (battery was
in the "boot").

...Jim Thompson
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Richard Henry · Aug 11, 2005

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 01:12:21 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Frithiof Andreas,

Replacing them with Sodium-Sulfur of course - for a much more
impressive
performance in Pegeuot 507 and Citroen C3 (Ronson and Zippo ...
bwahahahah
;-).

Hey, nothing against Citroen. My 2CV was a good car. But it didn't have
a battery most of the time so I guess it already was RoHS compliant.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

What? Was that like my Dauphine? I'd get in with my left leg hanging
out and "back it out" of my space at Moto. Then I'd straighten it up
in the aisle and then "run with it" for 20-30 feet, jump in and pop
the clutch ;-)

Then I put a Ford 60A alternator in it, with remote sense (battery was
in the "boot").

When I was in high school, our French teacher (naturally) had a little
Dauphine. The senior boys would occasionally pick it up and turn it 90° in
its parking space.

Tony Williams · Aug 11, 2005

In article <qi9lf19ur6rlruqpemhe0s16arh14vr86n@4ax.com>,
Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

What? Was that like my Dauphine? I'd get in with my left leg
hanging out and "back it out" of my space at Moto. Then I'd
straighten it up in the aisle and then "run with it" for 20-30
feet, jump in and pop the clutch ;-)

But at least you had a 'first' with a Dauphine.
It was one of the first cars made where (on most
panels) the paint coat was thicker than the steel.

--
Tony Williams.

Paul Burke · Aug 11, 2005

Joerg wrote:

My 2CV was a good car.

I didn't realise they were meant to be cars. Was yours the original
400cc or one of the big 600cc jobs? And how long did you have it before
the carburetter caught fire?

Paul Burke

Frithiof Andreas Jensen · Aug 11, 2005

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:VBxKe.1564$dk5.1496@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...

Hello Frithiof Andreas,

Replacing them with Sodium-Sulfur of course - for a much more impressive
performance in Pegeuot 507 and Citroen C3 (Ronson and Zippo ...
bwahahahah
;-).

Hey, nothing against Citroen.

I bought a Citroen C3 TDi myself - and it is a really nice little car too.

The bad press from a few spontaneous combustion event caused the car dealers
to come up with some really good deals. And it's insured, my garage is
insured, we do not leave dog alone in it and they proably fixed it by now
anyway, e.t.c. There is always *something* to add spice to a French car ;-)

My 2CV was a good car. But it didn't have
a battery most of the time so I guess it already was RoHS compliant.

You do not like the car - you remember the happiness of your youth ;-)

The only good things about the 2CV was that it could drive on the most
abysmal roads - and stay there and if it should tip over, two persons could
probably push it up again.

But above 50 km/h ..... featuring thicker paint than metal and a tendency to
rust, things already would be dicy for the occupants; it's wind sensitive,
to change the points, one had to dismantle the front, take the cooler and
the fan off - using a special tool - a real union job!

The spark plugs were on the bottom of the engine too - to get the benefit of
the salt so liberally spred on the roads here in the winter. And the heating
never worked.

But damn cheap to run. And one could get girlies into it too.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Keith Williams · Aug 11, 2005

In article <qi9lf19ur6rlruqpemhe0s16arh14vr86n@4ax.com>,
thegreatone@example.com says...

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 01:12:21 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Frithiof Andreas,

Replacing them with Sodium-Sulfur of course - for a much more impressive
performance in Pegeuot 507 and Citroen C3 (Ronson and Zippo ... bwahahahah
;-).

Hey, nothing against Citroen. My 2CV was a good car. But it didn't have
a battery most of the time so I guess it already was RoHS compliant.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

What? Was that like my Dauphine? I'd get in with my left leg hanging
out and "back it out" of my space at Moto. Then I'd straighten it up
in the aisle and then "run with it" for 20-30 feet, jump in and pop
the clutch ;-)

I did something similar with my '70 Gremlin[*]. I'd push against the
door frame then jump in and pop the clutch.

[*] THE most appropriately named car in history.

Then I put a Ford 60A alternator in it, with remote sense (battery was
in the "boot").

The Gremlin had a Ford electrical system in it, IIRC (Auburn clutch
too). It had an electronic voltage regulator, which turned into a real
mess when the alternator shorted out (sheared brushes).

--
Keith

Jim Thompson · Aug 11, 2005

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 19:00:21 -0700, "Richard Henry" <rphenry@home.com>
wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:qi9lf19ur6rlruqpemhe0s16arh14vr86n@4ax.com...
On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 01:12:21 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Frithiof Andreas,

Replacing them with Sodium-Sulfur of course - for a much more
impressive
performance in Pegeuot 507 and Citroen C3 (Ronson and Zippo ...
bwahahahah
;-).

Hey, nothing against Citroen. My 2CV was a good car. But it didn't have
a battery most of the time so I guess it already was RoHS compliant.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

What? Was that like my Dauphine? I'd get in with my left leg hanging
out and "back it out" of my space at Moto. Then I'd straighten it up
in the aisle and then "run with it" for 20-30 feet, jump in and pop
the clutch ;-)

Then I put a Ford 60A alternator in it, with remote sense (battery was
in the "boot").

When I was in high school, our French teacher (naturally) had a little
Dauphine. The senior boys would occasionally pick it up and turn it 90° in
its parking space.

480)460-2350 | |
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Jim Thompson · Aug 11, 2005

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:22:52 +0100, Tony Williams
<tonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In article <qi9lf19ur6rlruqpemhe0s16arh14vr86n@4ax.com>,
Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

What? Was that like my Dauphine? I'd get in with my left leg
hanging out and "back it out" of my space at Moto. Then I'd
straighten it up in the aisle and then "run with it" for 20-30
feet, jump in and pop the clutch ;-)

But at least you had a 'first' with a Dauphine.
It was one of the first cars made where (on most
panels) the paint coat was thicker than the steel.

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Jim Thompson · Aug 11, 2005

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:37:41 -0400, Keith Williams <krw@att.bizzzz>
wrote:

In article <qi9lf19ur6rlruqpemhe0s16arh14vr86n@4ax.com>,
thegreatone@example.com says...
[snip]

What? Was that like my Dauphine? I'd get in with my left leg hanging
out and "back it out" of my space at Moto. Then I'd straighten it up
in the aisle and then "run with it" for 20-30 feet, jump in and pop
the clutch ;-)

I did something similar with my '70 Gremlin[*]. I'd push against the
door frame then jump in and pop the clutch.

[*] THE most appropriately named car in history.

[snip]

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Joerg · Aug 11, 2005

Hello Jim,

Hey, nothing against Citroen. My 2CV was a good car. But it didn't have
a battery most of the time so I guess it already was RoHS compliant.

What? Was that like my Dauphine? I'd get in with my left leg hanging
out and "back it out" of my space at Moto. Then I'd straighten it up
in the aisle and then "run with it" for 20-30 feet, jump in and pop
the clutch ;-)

No, the Dauphine was pure luxury compared to the 2CV. They look like this:
http://www.citroenchen.de/2004/5/mendoza.htm

Did the push trick a few times but the 2CV all had a crank, even the
last ones built in 1990. Best of all this old engine in there got me
around 50mpg (on swill...) despite the fact that the engine design was
from around WW2, possibly a little before. Newer ones had a larger
engine and 23 horses instead of my 16.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Joerg · Aug 11, 2005

Hello Paul,

My 2CV was a good car.

I didn't realise they were meant to be cars. Was yours the original
400cc or one of the big 600cc jobs? And how long did you have it before
the carburetter caught fire?

Mine was the 16 horses 400cc. Never caught fire but I did a meticulous
restoration on the carb. Copper packings, brass bushings and all, sawed
and polished by hand. It could idle like a Harley, kathumpah..kathumpah..

The scrap dealer was mighty impressed when I had to retire it because it
rusted out at 16 years of age. So impressed that I got money for it
because this engine went to a collector in Norway.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Joerg · Aug 12, 2005

Hello Frithiof Andreas,

I bought a Citroen C3 TDi myself - and it is a really nice little car too.

I wouldn't even know what that is, there are no French cars in the US
anymore. Peugeot was the last to throw in the towel but their US version
of the 505 was a real starship. Lots of dazzling lights and all.

But above 50 km/h ..... featuring thicker paint than metal and a tendency to
rust, things already would be dicy for the occupants; it's wind sensitive,
to change the points, one had to dismantle the front, take the cooler and
the fan off - using a special tool - a real union job!

Nah, just training. I could do the points in under 30 minutes. Mine even
had the alternator on that shaft as well.

The spark plugs were on the bottom of the engine too - to get the benefit of
the salt so liberally spred on the roads here in the winter. And the heating
never worked.

But: No distributor! Meaning a wrong turn on the crank could send a
kaboom and black soot out the exhaust. Better wait until nobody is
behind the car.

But damn cheap to run. And one could get girlies into it too.

Yes....

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Jim Thompson · Aug 12, 2005

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 00:52:45 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Jim,

Hey, nothing against Citroen. My 2CV was a good car. But it didn't have
a battery most of the time so I guess it already was RoHS compliant.

What? Was that like my Dauphine? I'd get in with my left leg hanging
out and "back it out" of my space at Moto. Then I'd straighten it up
in the aisle and then "run with it" for 20-30 feet, jump in and pop
the clutch ;-)

No, the Dauphine was pure luxury compared to the 2CV. They look like this:
http://www.citroenchen.de/2004/5/mendoza.htm

Did the push trick a few times but the 2CV all had a crank, even the
last ones built in 1990. Best of all this old engine in there got me
around 50mpg (on swill...) despite the fact that the engine design was
from around WW2, possibly a little before. Newer ones had a larger
engine and 23 horses instead of my 16.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

My Dauphine had a crank as well, but I was always afraid I'd break a
thumb, so I always resorted to the "running start" ;-)

I went for 6 weeks like that waiting for batteries to go on-sale at
Sears ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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480)460-2350 | |
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Pooh Bear · Aug 12, 2005

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 00:52:45 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Jim,

Hey, nothing against Citroen. My 2CV was a good car. But it didn't have
a battery most of the time so I guess it already was RoHS compliant.

What? Was that like my Dauphine? I'd get in with my left leg hanging
out and "back it out" of my space at Moto. Then I'd straighten it up
in the aisle and then "run with it" for 20-30 feet, jump in and pop
the clutch ;-)

No, the Dauphine was pure luxury compared to the 2CV. They look like this:
http://www.citroenchen.de/2004/5/mendoza.htm

Did the push trick a few times but the 2CV all had a crank, even the
last ones built in 1990. Best of all this old engine in there got me
around 50mpg (on swill...) despite the fact that the engine design was
from around WW2, possibly a little before. Newer ones had a larger
engine and 23 horses instead of my 16.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

My Dauphine had a crank as well, but I was always afraid I'd break a
thumb, so I always resorted to the "running start" ;-)

I went for 6 weeks like that waiting for batteries to go on-sale at
Sears ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Now try getting the kids today to believe a story like that !

Graham

Michael A. Terrell · Aug 12, 2005

Fred Abse wrote:

If I realized I'd just eaten a lump of antimony, I think I'd shit myself,
too

No shit? ;-)

--
Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted
after threats were telephoned to my church.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Jim Thompson · Aug 12, 2005

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:42:00 +0100, Pooh Bear
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 00:52:45 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Jim,

Hey, nothing against Citroen. My 2CV was a good car. But it didn't have
a battery most of the time so I guess it already was RoHS compliant.

What? Was that like my Dauphine? I'd get in with my left leg hanging
out and "back it out" of my space at Moto. Then I'd straighten it up
in the aisle and then "run with it" for 20-30 feet, jump in and pop
the clutch ;-)

No, the Dauphine was pure luxury compared to the 2CV. They look like this:
http://www.citroenchen.de/2004/5/mendoza.htm

Did the push trick a few times but the 2CV all had a crank, even the
last ones built in 1990. Best of all this old engine in there got me
around 50mpg (on swill...) despite the fact that the engine design was
from around WW2, possibly a little before. Newer ones had a larger
engine and 23 horses instead of my 16.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

My Dauphine had a crank as well, but I was always afraid I'd break a
thumb, so I always resorted to the "running start" ;-)

I went for 6 weeks like that waiting for batteries to go on-sale at
Sears ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Now try getting the kids today to believe a story like that !

Graham

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Joerg · Aug 12, 2005

Hello Jim,

My Dauphine had a crank as well, but I was always afraid I'd break a
thumb, so I always resorted to the "running start" ;-)

Thumb over the handle and not under is extremely important. These things
could backfire badly.

I went for 6 weeks like that waiting for batteries to go on-sale at
Sears ;-)

Mine had 6V and those never went on sale :-(

I also had two trucker sized compressor horns in the car. In some areas
of Europe the horn is the most important part of a car and the turn
signal is the least used. Of course, if I accidentally tapped the horn
while idle the engine would stall.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Fred Abse · Aug 12, 2005

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 07:18:24 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:22:52 +0100, Tony Williams
tonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk> wrote:

[quoted text muted]

It did pretty well in Arizona but, of course, very little rain to
cause rust ;-)

I thought they were pre-rusted at the factory.

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)

keith · Aug 12, 2005

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 06:20:38 +0000, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Fred Abse wrote:

If I realized I'd just eaten a lump of antimony, I think I'd shit myself,
too

No shit? ;-)

No, rather; "Ah, Shit!"

--
Keith

Jim Thompson · Aug 12, 2005

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:50:16 +0100, Fred Abse
<excretatauris@cerebrumconfus.it> wrote:

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 07:18:24 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 06:22:52 +0100, Tony Williams
tonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk> wrote:

[quoted text muted]

It did pretty well in Arizona but, of course, very little rain to
cause rust ;-)

I thought they were pre-rusted at the factory.

I bought mine at Luby Chevrolet in Boston in June of 1961. By June of
1962, when I graduated, it already had a few small rust spots.

I drove it to Arizona where the extreme heat and dryness turned the
brown rust to a gray color, and corrosion stopped completely ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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